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Title: My Songs EDIT: NEW SONGS!
Post by: cfalkosky on October 16, 2015, 04:21:48 AM
EDIT: Thanks for listening! again!
NEW LINK:https://soundcloud.com/cody-falkosky/sets/cody-2016-favs/s-BHzlT

Hello Cheiron Songwriters forum,

I am a songwriter/producer recently moved to LA trying to make it.  Here are some of my favorite songs I've done up until this point.  All these I co-wrote with 1 or 2 other writers, and I was the sole producer and mixer.

https://soundcloud.com/cody-falkosky/sets/cody-2014-favs/s-1HxXX

Thank you for listening!

My goals in posting this:
1-(best case) meet someone who can help me mentor under max (which would be an honor)

2-meet people to collab with.  so many of you have great talent and I'd like to work together

3-get advice.  I did try my hardest when making these, however I know the road ahead is still long and much could be improved.  I am humble.  I  welcome and want any advice/criticism that can make my future melodies/production/mix better.

Thank you again for listening and being part of a community that loves great music!

Cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: emjay on January 26, 2016, 12:46:19 AM
Why are there no replies?!

Great work. Especially liking "It's Alright".
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: turnaround on January 26, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
Oh, these are catchy tunes. Nice style and the singer does a great job.

Good luck with these, have you sent them to some labels?

Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 26, 2016, 04:56:38 PM
Sounds really good, great production and toplines.

The thing is: sounds way too pop and that reduces the array of artists to get a placement.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 04, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
Quote from: emjay on January 26, 2016, 12:46:19 AM
Why are there no replies?!

Great work. Especially liking "It's Alright".

Thank you emjay!  I really appreciate it!  I like It's Alright too!

Quote from: turnaround on January 26, 2016, 08:50:09 AM
Oh, these are catchy tunes. Nice style and the singer does a great job.

Good luck with these, have you sent them to some labels?




turnaround,

thanks man! she's great! Umm, I have not, honestly I'm not even at a level where I know how to "send stuff to labels" and have them actually listen... if you know anyone I would be honored to hear about it, especially if they kick it with max.  thanks again tho for the kind words!

Cody


Quote from: j.fco.morales on January 26, 2016, 04:56:38 PM
Sounds really good, great production and toplines.

The thing is: sounds way too pop and that reduces the array of artists to get a placement.

j.fco.morales,

thanks a lot! i appreciate the positive feedback.  yea I agree, things now are getting darker in sound and i'm going that way... array of placement is honestly something I haven't thought much about, I just try to make the dopest thing I can, but I should start trying to think of "scope" more.  Thanks for the tip

Cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: emjay on February 04, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
That's Charity Vance, isn't she on a label? Her EP with It's Alright is on iTunes, and she has a music video for it.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 04, 2016, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: emjay on February 04, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
That's Charity Vance, isn't she on a label? Her EP with It's Alright is on iTunes, and she has a music video for it.

Yea emjay it's her but she's not on a label.  She paid for all of it herself.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: emjay on February 04, 2016, 09:05:41 PM
^ Oh, okay. Very cool.

I really like the acoustic version of It's Alright also.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: sand_bar on February 05, 2016, 09:26:24 PM
Quote from: cfalkosky on October 16, 2015, 04:21:48 AM
Hello Cheiron Songwriters forum,

I am a songwriter/producer recently moved to LA trying to make it.  Here are some of my favorite songs I've done up until this point.  All these I co-wrote with 1 or 2 other writers, and I was the sole producer and mixer.

https://soundcloud.com/cody-falkosky/sets/cody-2014-favs/s-1HxXX

Thank you for listening!

My goals in posting this:
1-(best case) meet someone who can help me mentor under max (which would be an honor)

2-meet people to collab with.  so many of you have great talent and I'd like to work together

3-get advice.  I did try my hardest when making these, however I know the road ahead is still long and much could be improved.  I am humble.  I  welcome and want any advice/criticism that can make my future melodies/production/mix better.

Thank you again for listening and being part of a community that loves great music!

Cody

Hey,

The first and third are very unlistenable to me, but Sound of a Heartbeat definitely has potential IMO. The deep male vocals are WAY too cheesy and unnecessary and ruin the vibe. The rap bridge seems really unnecessary, too and makes the song too long. But, the little fills he does could be replaced by her and might be cool.

The drums on SOAH are definitely cliche. I think even the unsophisticated listener would be turned off by the outdated feel.  You should make them more unique and your own by layering them. I think the song can be slightly less BPMs. But, really, it could be a great song with some changes :)

Oh yea, the intro is pretty good.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 06, 2016, 07:43:35 AM
Sand_bar,

Dude thanks for the super specific feedback! I can really tell u listened, I appreciate that.  I'll look into those tweaks u mentioned.  THANKS!

Emjay,

Thanks man! Looks like u did a little digging to find the acoustic version.  I like it acoustic as well.  Thanks!

Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: sand_bar on February 06, 2016, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: cfalkosky on February 06, 2016, 07:43:35 AM
Sand_bar,

Dude thanks for the super specific feedback! I can really tell u listened, I appreciate that.  I'll look into those tweaks u mentioned.  THANKS!

Emjay,

Thanks man! Looks like u did a little digging to find the acoustic version.  I like it acoustic as well.  Thanks!

No worries :) I didn't find the acoustic version, though. I'm talking about the version that's on the playlist you linked to.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: tehuku on February 09, 2016, 05:06:13 PM
Nice tracks!
Offtopic question: I thought about moving to LA as well and start hustling but to live and work legally I need the green card. Did you go through the process as well or did you just go there?
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 09, 2016, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: tehuku on February 09, 2016, 05:06:13 PM
Nice tracks!
Offtopic question: I thought about moving to LA as well and start hustling but to live and work legally I need the green card. Did you go through the process as well or did you just go there?
tehuku,

i was born in the US so moving to LA wasn't much of a process for me.  Where r u from?

cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 10, 2016, 07:08:17 PM
I'm decided to move to LA as well!
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on February 10, 2016, 11:49:18 PM
Definitely talented but feels like you re trying to make today s music and emulating the established producers instead of defining what makes you different and trying to do music fo tomorrow. It all felt real safe. Are you strictly in the box?
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 13, 2016, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on February 10, 2016, 07:08:17 PM
I'm decided to move to LA as well!
Dude Let's meet up!

Quote from: sonnyblack2000 on February 10, 2016, 11:49:18 PM
Definitely talented but feels like you re trying to make today s music and emulating the established producers instead of defining what makes you different and trying to do music fo tomorrow. It all felt real safe. Are you strictly in the box?
thanks man! I can def hear what your saying, with my newest stuff I'm always asking the question what if it was darker? what if it was weirder? but yea it's strictly in the box
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on February 16, 2016, 03:16:42 AM
Ya the itb thing, its great but it lends itself to be too precise for lack of better description. For example: Vintage hardware synths might drift a bit, you might overdrive the filters, some dont have midi so you actually have to play decent enough, it all adds up to a bigger and deeper sound to my ears...
But yeah defnitely explorng darker/weirder textures will make the material stand out, ther then that its all there.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: J_A24 on February 17, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
You can make ITB sound like that too. Also don't limit yourself to synths, sample manipulation is your friend too.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 17, 2016, 09:31:26 PM
Quote from: sonnyblack2000 on February 16, 2016, 03:16:42 AM
Ya the itb thing, its great but it lends itself to be too precise for lack of better description. For example: Vintage hardware synths might drift a bit, you might overdrive the filters, some dont have midi so you actually have to play decent enough, it all adds up to a bigger and deeper sound to my ears...
But yeah defnitely explorng darker/weirder textures will make the material stand out, ther then that its all there.
thanks for notes!

Quote from: J_A24 on February 17, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
You can make ITB sound like that too. Also don't limit yourself to synths, sample manipulation is your friend too.
thanks for tip J_A24 i'll have to try some more sample manipulation and see how it goes
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 18, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
Actually, you can sample without even noticing it.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 18, 2016, 07:43:44 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on February 18, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
Actually, you can sample without even noticing it.

Could you please explain a little more, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?  Thank you.

Cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 19, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
Quote from: cfalkosky on February 18, 2016, 07:43:44 PM
Could you please explain a little more, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at?  Thank you.

Cody

I read an interview with a great producer -can't remember the name right now- that every piece of sound can be sampled and used.
If you manipulate it in the right way and create "other" sound, it's not exactly a sample.

The law is very blurry about it. And no one has to know unless you want to  :-X
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on February 20, 2016, 12:40:21 PM
And how does this help him?
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on February 21, 2016, 01:53:19 AM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on February 19, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
I read an interview with a great producer -can't remember the name right now- that every piece of sound can be sampled and used.
If you manipulate it in the right way and create "other" sound, it's not exactly a sample.

The law is very blurry about it. And no one has to know unless you want to  :-X

ahh i see what you're saying now, thanks for clarifying
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 06, 2016, 07:52:27 AM
Quote from: cfalkosky on February 04, 2016, 12:04:14 PM
I'm not even at a level where I know how to "send stuff to labels" and have them actually listen...


Hi there  :D

Is that really so?

I see the link you posted date's back to 2014 - a quick look around the web-shows that under name cfalkosky - there is releases on every single digital web store around..

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/chart-pop-2/id1035488240

UPPM- records :
http://www.unippm.com/

Is that you?
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on March 09, 2016, 04:08:21 AM
Quote from: NeutronSynergy on March 06, 2016, 07:52:27 AM
Hi there  :D

Is that really so?

I see the link you posted date's back to 2014 - a quick look around the web-shows that under name cfalkosky - there is releases on every single digital web store around..

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/chart-pop-2/id1035488240

UPPM- records :
http://www.unippm.com/

Is that you?

NeutronSynergy,

Yea I did those songs.  They were for a pop library through a music licensing company my friend works for.  I also have indie "releases" out there, but that was really just uploading songs though tune core that I wrote with some friends, anybody can do that.  As far as getting cuts, or making connections at Universal, Sony or Warner I don't really have a good in at this point.  However I have hope that that can change.  :-)

thanks for comments,

Cody

Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 09, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: cfalkosky on October 16, 2015, 04:21:48 AM
My goals in posting this: 1,2,3 ...
There are some question what a producer would ask (aside of what they are hearing) starting from Sir George Martin and Sam Phillips:

Judging by your original goal's - What capacity of equipment you use . ie - did you have a production capacity of
equipment worth of of 50 000 $, 10 000 $, 100 000 $  or more  + the staff (you + 2 producers/writers all input capacity or for example one/multiple studio input capacity combined) were there additional mastering house - used?

and as we are talking about producing (not just songwriting) - did you have multiple small/semi-private/commercial studio's at your disposal for usage to produce
the output you/team are sharing?  and if 'just' private home studio's then was the capacity somewhere between 10 - 30 k - combined and possible
musician's (vocalists too)  included? Or was the rack gear - mixing console/equipment alone beyond 10k - not including synthesizers/software/Instrument's/Microphones and
possibly the treatment acoustics and studio rooms (rented or owned)

Not of course asking the initial budget there but about the overall capacity since I'm trying to determine what advice's could be really beneficial for you   
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 09, 2016, 01:45:30 PM
If you're not already familiar - check this out: http://horusmusic.co.uk
a real service to push your material up (that is if one wishes to remain the chief in operation ; More independent ) no caveats -
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 09, 2016, 02:25:32 PM
Btw - what do you people think about 'ITB' ? is it more about the environment or the working method?

This is a classical so called outside-the-box example in it's finest with their modified Harrison mix console :
http://www.abbaexperience.com/polar-music.html
or http://www.boprecordingstudios.co.za/

Even this is not fully ITB: as they guy is surrounded by (at least) 30 000 - 100 000 dollars worth of HW - but the working method is as he point's out.
http://www.uaudio.com/blog/artist-interview-andrew-scheps/

THIS is "ITB" to the bottom of it  - before such notion became a common.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLqzzG0Osjc

..

You can find phenomemal/good examples of such ITB - style producing from Fruity loops-demo folder.  (Free to download. there is for example a dedmau5 work "fully ITB"
before he became a name)
https://www.image-line.com/flstudio/

Here you can see 'ITB' and 'OTB' living peacefully together: http://thechurchstudios.com/ - as Paul Epworth advertises in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCZ7cDR1L6c
that UAD2 - Powered ITB-unit.

Oh!? Aren't those the same monitors setup in the "church-studios" as the 'Sonnyblack2000' has..been wondering what they are , oh yes they are Yamaha ns-xx series close field monitors and a - Barefoot MicroMain27 Nearfield Monitors..a moment of truth (or death) that is for all the little songs floating around.

the Barefoot's alone cost a modest $10,495.00..
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: JamesSongwriter on March 09, 2016, 05:43:43 PM
Dude! I seriously dig your tracks. Sonically they sound so amazing. I can imagine all of them on the radio...

Agree that the melodies and lyrics are a little too happy, lacking a bit of an edge. But other than that I'm impressed.

I'm a topline writer from London (and I produce my own tracks but wouldn't call myself a producer). Not signed or anything yet but had a song put on hold by Zendaya / Chris Brown A&R. Looking for great beats and producers to work with, it's hard to find beats as current and fresh as yours.

Would love to collaborate. Have sent you a PM incase you don't see this, we should exchange emails.
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 09, 2016, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on February 19, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
I read an interview with a great producer -can't remember the name right now-

Could that be Denniz Pop?
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 09, 2016, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on January 26, 2016, 04:56:38 PM
Sounds really good, great production and toplines.

The thing is: sounds way too pop and that reduces the array of artists to get a placement.

Yeah , if so then - in mixing sense it would translate like there is something in the monitoring setup to be approached differently or the acoustics are delivering un-controlled results.
sometimes it's the mastering setup that kill's most of the dynamics + the originality of the mix (and songwriting essence delivered into it) ,
that leaves an artificial trace in an favour of sounding 'boomy' in car-stereos etc - and the breathing of the mix possible (specially) stringed (including space separation) - instruments are gone because those are force fit to be in , on an certain 'overloaded'  frequency 'banned' stereo image.

An example where such effect works however:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEXGgdqMz8"
Or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcDy8HEg1QY

In Metallica - 'Death magnetic' or Mastodon's 'Blood  mountain' - You find opposite result's

'Cfalkosky's' output doesn't suffer from this..

That is of course when Sgt.Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band or YES - close to the edge are considered to be POP-albums.
Everyone agrees..
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on March 09, 2016, 07:56:56 PM
NeutronSynery,

Wow thanks for all the comments I really appreciate it.  As far the "capacity of equipment" I'm just using my personal gear in a small home studio.  Also, thanks for all the tips and links! I'm slowly trying to absorb all you said. 

Thanks,

Cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: NeutronSynergy on March 29, 2016, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: cfalkosky on March 09, 2016, 07:56:56 PM
NeutronSynery,

Wow thanks for all the comments I really appreciate it.


Sorry about the delay - haven't find a proper time to 'determine' this as promised but :

I think the 'Capacity of production'  translates in a way that it's you who has to understand / re-estimate
the value of your product.

With the goals 1.2.3 in mind  - it sound's like you should think where to investigate next -
ie. to a more expensive production - better sounds/songs or just hookup with an agent Down there at L.A - as the point is to get your work
in to the paying audience. (goal 2)

When the material is there ,  you know "up with the bar" then investing into promotion and distribution is one of the key questions..which translates to the possible savings you've done regarding the studio tech / "the capacity of production".

The main reason why Cheiron-studios rised with Denniz pop vision- was the new relatively cheap production tools.
i.e 90's shift of the entire industry thru digital revolution.

It really is pointless to do 10 - 20k or just 'even' 5k " fully finished productions"  without a price tag .
or even more lame would be  some record companies to start posting into demo forums with their  50k- 300 000 $ setup..you dig?

Now "killing it" as Martin Sandberg says , with a just a cellphone - might be more of an reality or more of an myth than what new songwriting opportunities in reality are...most people still (the majority of) want's to get into the core of it: Universal,Sony, not around a cell phone..but around
full capacity production facilities..things might change but before that check out the annual report: www.ifpi.org

So with your small production establishment - the math is clear.

Here's good information of people who have worked on the actual Cheiron studios talking
about how to get that Cheiron-sound (goal 1)

http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=134.0

another good topic:

http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=65.0

Be sure to Check out the link's on those topics as well---because there are some instances who actually break thru those channels back then while still in production at Cheiron(Goal 3).

Another great place to start really pushing your material (instead playing with indie channels) is
https://www.kobaltmusic.com/

which headline goes " It really is that simple " .

That of course depend's which way you intend to go - to be private studio owner/producer or more of an songwriter to license stuff which translates back to the same question - capacity of production , and the capacity of production translates to real need of real professionals.

A short documentary off how multi-million success phenomena's can be produced is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Ck2L46494

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2dlte9_the-jackson-5-documentary_people

If the question about "getting picked up" to make cuts..is rather controversial ,(or not)
The good news is that - there is always need for talent and knowledge..

When songwriting used to be fun?  - check out those ITB-links provided above.
--

all this for free - haha!? It's like a day in the parade  8) Well  NeutronSynergy is naturally interested about the same goals you pointed out.

-NS
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: cfalkosky on March 30, 2016, 10:49:33 PM
NS,

THANKS! I'm checking all these links out!

Cody
Title: Re: My Songs
Post by: portthames on June 03, 2016, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on February 19, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
I read an interview with a great producer -can't remember the name right now- that every piece of sound can be sampled and used.
If you manipulate it in the right way and create "other" sound, it's not exactly a sample.

The law is very blurry about it. And no one has to know unless you want to  :-X

I would highly recommend he doesn't sample illegally.

It might not be the best start to his career, and with so many legal sample sites out there (and his obvious natural talent) he's
better off avoiding the potential drama and he'll have the benefit of knowing he's simply doing the right thing.

My $0.02
Title: Re: My Songs EDIT: NEW SONGS!
Post by: cfalkosky on August 30, 2016, 12:45:38 AM
NEW SONGS! THANKS FOR LISTENING!