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Title: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 07, 2019, 07:35:14 PM
Shellback tweeted this.

"Am I excited about this one? Umm... YES!!! 🕺🏼🎷"

Do you think Max co-wrote this?

https://lnk.to/IDontCare?ref=https%3A//t.co/fS1S5VXi9i

Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 07, 2019, 08:22:03 PM
If it was a co-write with a superstar producer it would be included on the press release for sure.

Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on May 07, 2019, 08:49:35 PM
I just wonder if Shellback tweeted about it if he was not even involved.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: bugmenot on May 07, 2019, 10:45:40 PM
I only found this song in ASCAP written by Max, never knew
I Don't Care (Apocalyptica song) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Care_(Apocalyptica_song))
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 08, 2019, 12:35:10 AM
Quote from: turnaround on May 07, 2019, 08:49:35 PM
I just wonder if Shellback tweeted about it if he was not even involved.

Based on his tweets, I don't think so.
But I guess Ed mostly worked with Benny Blanco...
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: nanofives on May 08, 2019, 06:24:39 AM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on May 07, 2019, 08:22:03 PM
If it was a co-write with a superstar producer it would be included on the press release for sure.

Benny Blanco has way more press lately than Max I think, we would have known if any of them were involved.

Quote from: bugmenot on May 07, 2019, 10:45:40 PM
I only found this song in ASCAP written by Max, never knew
I Don't Care (Apocalyptica song) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Care_(Apocalyptica_song))

I've always wondered if the studio album version and the single version are both written by Max, because the single version's lyrics are more catchy, something Max would have done, also the drum arrangement is different, a little more poppy.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 09, 2019, 05:33:29 AM
Quote from: nanofives on May 08, 2019, 06:24:39 AM
Benny Blanco has way more press lately than Max I think, we would have known if any of them were involved.

Basically because Max doesn't do press or interviews haha
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 09, 2019, 03:18:28 PM
Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber, Fred Gibson, Jason Boyd, Max Martin & Shellback

https://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/i-dont-care/1462426785?i=1462426786
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 09, 2019, 08:11:37 PM
Uhm
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on May 10, 2019, 06:05:42 AM
I didn't like at first the march beat, but it's a grower, very nice.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 10, 2019, 10:14:28 AM
This FRED seems to be very versatile. Maybe Max and Shellback will work now more on songs with him?
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on May 10, 2019, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: nanofives on May 10, 2019, 06:05:42 AM
I didn't like at first the march beat, but it's a grower, very nice.

I've got nothing to add. Very uplifting and quite a unique song. Alright, obviously I had something to add.
These "eh" vocal sounds in the beat seem to be adapted from "Clique" (Kanye West, Jay-Z & and Big Sean), very strange.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 10, 2019, 06:08:32 PM
Is it possible to identify Max in the backing vocals?


Producer
Fred
Max Martin
Shellback

Composer
Ed Sheeran
Fred Gibson
Jason Boyd
Justin Bieber
Max Martin
Shellback

Assistant
Inaam Haq

Backing Vocals
Benjy Gibson
Fred
Max Martin

Bass
Fred

Beatbox Vocals
Fred

Brass Arranger
Emma Corby

Drums
Fred

Engineer
Fred
John Hanes
Michael Ilbert

Guitar
Fred

Keyboards
Fred
Max Martin
Shellback

Mixer
Serban Ghenea

Percussion
Benjy Gibson

Production
Josh Gudwin

Programmer
Fred
Shellback

Recording
Josh Gudwin

Saxophone
Georgia Gibson

Vocals
Ed Sheeran
Justin Bieber
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 10, 2019, 07:37:56 PM
"Don't think I fit in in this party", Ed Sheeran singing that, come on HAHA

I really don't like it.

Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on May 11, 2019, 02:52:45 PM
Quote from: turnaround on May 10, 2019, 06:08:32 PM
Is it possible to identify Max in the backing vocals?

Yeah there are "aah"-choires in the song
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 18, 2019, 06:06:30 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeI9UdxBorA

I just found and watched Songwriter, the documentary about the previous album.
Nice to watch :)
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on May 20, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
The song debuted at N2 in the Hot 100, and N1 un UK and Australia, so close. People are still very hyped with Old Town Road (Remix)
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 22, 2019, 09:46:33 PM
Cross Me is the new single and is out this friday.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxsSWtZBfIo/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on May 23, 2019, 01:29:46 AM
Apparently the song is featuring Chance The Rapper and PnB Rock
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on June 01, 2019, 09:17:15 PM
The Acoustic Version is so much better than the original. The songwriting shines through.

Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on June 07, 2019, 04:07:31 PM
Fred Gibson and Ed Sheeran also co-wrote Make It Right for BTS which has obvious similairties to I Don't Care, so I guess Max and Shellback were rather involved in toplining.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 26, 2019, 12:32:10 AM
Quote from: bugmenot on June 25, 2019, 11:05:33 PM
Max Martin dances

(https://instagram.fhrk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/vp/466df1bf0ebc8c5839c2cc63c12c7c38/5D1552A7/t51.2885-15/e35/64260815_138767047312025_7402246981542348000_n.jpg?_nc_ht=instagram.fhrk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net) (https://www.instagram.com/p/BzF9Pt7hjfQ/)

How do you insert that? haha
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: bugmenot on June 26, 2019, 07:27:50 PM
Just a linked picture, it was your phone who opened the Instagram app.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 26, 2019, 08:54:10 PM
Quote from: bugmenot on June 26, 2019, 07:27:50 PM
Just a linked picture, it was your phone who opened the Instagram app.

I'm in my desktop!
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on June 27, 2019, 07:38:45 PM
[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/4evmHXcjt3bTUHD1cvny97?si=Tbk0c6WFQ4euL8ZofwBjNA[/spotify]

Songwriter:  Ed Sheeran, Fred, Max Martin, Shellback, Khalid
Producer: Ed Sheeran, Fred, Max Martin Shellback
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on July 02, 2019, 05:03:06 PM
The song grew on me after I watched the video, although the instrumentation is very subtle for being a Max song.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 03, 2019, 08:13:12 AM
how the heck is this a Max song...?
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on July 04, 2019, 02:26:08 PM
Lol, Fred and Ed have already written a very similar song for BTS (Make It Right).
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 04, 2019, 08:32:34 PM
Blow is out tomorrow.

Is a rock song.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on July 05, 2019, 06:27:28 PM
According to ASCAP, Shellback and Max are credited on Ed's, Eminem & 50 Cent collab and the Stormzy collab.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2019, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 04, 2019, 08:32:34 PM
Blow is out tomorrow.

Is a rock song.


The video for BLOW is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s93NCuXt7x4
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on July 09, 2019, 02:49:31 AM
Quote from: bugmenot on July 08, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
Why Sheeran & Bieber's "I Don't Care" Doesn't Work | Artists Series S3E4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypKfWwO6m4):

38 out of the 76 notes in the verse are F#

This reminds me of how Bon Appétit it's just mostly 2 chords (a third one is barely used) the whole song. But I think it just works because Max is good at having a wholesome project with simplicity.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 11, 2019, 09:07:13 PM
I listened to the album, such a mess. It's a bunch of tracks.

To me, this is to establish him as a versatile songwriter.

Best Part of Me will be the hit of this project.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on July 12, 2019, 07:50:02 PM
I'm not proud of Paulo Londra's verse, feels very out of place. I'm sure his manager must be very proud to make Ed notice him.

I get some Cheiron vibes on Remember The Name, very catchy indeed.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 12, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
Quote from: nanofives on July 12, 2019, 07:50:02 PM
I'm not proud of Paulo Londra's verse, feels very out of place. I'm sure his manager must be very proud to make Ed notice him.

I get some Cheiron vibes on Remember The Name, very catchy indeed.

I loathe Paulo Londra.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: nanofives on July 12, 2019, 11:40:22 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 12, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
I loathe Paulo Londra.
Me too, I don't like Argentinian trap music in general, all the artists I know are disgusting in many ways.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on July 16, 2019, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: bugmenot on July 08, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
Why Sheeran & Bieber's "I Don't Care" Doesn't Work | Artists Series S3E4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JypKfWwO6m4):

38 out of the 76 notes in the verse are F#

Doesn't work? Lol. UK #1, Billboard #2, Germany #2 - just to name a few.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on July 16, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 11, 2019, 09:07:13 PM
Best Part of Me will be the hit of this project.

I'd rather say Way To Break My Heart.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 17, 2019, 05:56:26 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 16, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
I'd rather say Way To Break My Heart.


Let's see in couple months.
Title: Re: Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber - I Don't Care - Single (Shellback, Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2021, 05:06:39 AM
Quote from: B Steady on July 16, 2019, 04:21:51 PM
I'd rather say Way To Break My Heart.

There was a hit? haha