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Title: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on November 02, 2007, 08:05:27 PM
Hey guys we all know that Baby One More Time is a pop-beat song...but do u like that 3rd verse/bridge with the piano thing"Oh baby baby how was I suppose to know(Pinao...),you know what Max did a great job putting the paino thing to that part I just love it although I am huge uptempo songs fan.

do u think the song will be as good if it has a piano version.

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: turnaround on November 02, 2007, 08:14:02 PM
Yes, I think it would work.
Now that we all know the original version I think you could almost do anything with the song, it is just a Swedish masterpiece so many people like.

I have never been a huge fan of the song to be honest, I think Max wrote many better songs, but I can understand why people loved it that much!
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on November 02, 2007, 09:57:20 PM
thats why i like max martin work,he mix the dance beats with other instrumentals like piano,and the melody in the song is great ,thats why i believe he was the best for the dance songs for britney.
putting such this piano in an uptempo dance beat song make it special and unique,not like the traditional uptempos dance songs which only focus on the beat and neglect the melody and other instrumentals.

in baby one more time that was a great idea to put this piano,and then starting the dance beat again with(i must confess and my lonliness is kiling me now.....)till the end of the song,and he also added back ground vocals which u can hear in the last part of the song ,when britney saying(don't u know i still believe that u will be here) in the same time u can here the background vocals sing(when i'm not with u i lose my mind) in the background,it was a special thing max martin did,and i think it was good thing to do.

max martin is really a rare talent.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on November 02, 2007, 10:12:43 PM
Yes, I love that part!

'Oh pretty baby I shouldn't have let you go' (is that the part you mean near the end?) - anyway, that part sends a shiver down my spine

I tried to teach myself piano and I have an easy version of that song and play it over and over.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: turnaround on November 02, 2007, 10:45:01 PM
Oh, it took me a little time to realize which song this is.
Yes, these acoustic minmal versions can change so much, the whole atmosphere.

Robyn's "Be mine" in the acoustic version changes also a lot.

Maybe someone has the idea one day to record a "serious" nice unplugged version of a Cheiron song. 
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on November 04, 2007, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: ®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ on November 02, 2007, 10:40:25 PM
This is like half-off topic but:
It's amazing how different one and the same song can be.

Check this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYgYAmsv-pM

I'm absolutely amazed by this version!!!!

oh you're back! :) yay
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on November 04, 2007, 09:56:25 PM
watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_TZmkaMrgE

really amazing
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on November 05, 2007, 10:58:02 AM
wow, that was amazing, I loved watching that.
I love that dance routine. Britney is such a fantastic dancer.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on November 05, 2007, 03:20:19 PM
all I can say is wow!

I also love that dance routine.. its one of my faves

she looks soo young there... she looks like her sister
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on November 05, 2007, 04:08:33 PM
yeah its amazing,and she was very skilful in this dance

and Linda she look so young cuz thats from baby one more time era i think.

i miss that Britney :( :'(
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on November 05, 2007, 09:16:12 PM
I miss that Britney too.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on November 06, 2007, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: ahmed on November 02, 2007, 09:57:20 PM
thats why i like max martin work,he mix the dance beats with other instrumentals like piano,and the melody in the song is great ,thats why i believe he was the best for the dance songs for britney.
putting such this piano in an uptempo dance beat song make it special and unique,not like the traditional uptempos dance songs which only focus on the beat and neglect the melody and other instrumentals.

in baby one more time that was a great idea to put this piano,and then starting the dance beat again with(i must confess and my lonliness is kiling me now.....)till the end of the song,and he also added back ground vocals which u can hear in the last part of the song ,when britney saying(don't u know i still believe that u will be here) in the same time u can here the background vocals sing(when i'm not with u i lose my mind) in the background,it was a special thing max martin did,and i think it was good thing to do.

max martin is really a rare talent.
that's what's cherion is known for,this kinda of mixing the chorus with I don't know it is AMAZING!
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on November 06, 2007, 07:30:33 PM
Quote from: ahmed on November 05, 2007, 04:08:33 PM

and Linda she look so young cuz thats from baby one more time era i think.


yea, she is rehearsing for the baby one more time vid

she is only 16/17 here

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Unexpected on November 06, 2007, 08:37:52 PM
it's nice to see the old britney , I'm really missing that period
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on November 06, 2007, 08:48:46 PM
yea its pretty sad
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 11, 2007, 09:17:34 PM
does anyone have heard the Baby One More Time - vocal mix? there is no studio-edit,the songs is a bit strange without Max's vocals in the chorus.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 11, 2007, 09:40:15 PM
No, I haven't heard it, is it on a single?
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 12, 2007, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 11, 2007, 09:40:15 PM
No, I haven't heard it, is it on a single?
No I found it somewhere... do u wanna hear it Rebecca??,I can send ya it,feel free.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 12, 2007, 08:31:21 PM
Hey thanks Feelgoodlies, I've had a few listens. I think her voice sounds great! just sounds not as polished. Is it a live version?
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 12, 2007, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 12, 2007, 08:31:21 PM
Hey thanks Feelgoodlies, I've had a few listens. I think her voice sounds great! just sounds not as polished. Is it a live version?
you are welcome Rebecca...No I don't think it is a live version,to me it sounds very weird without Max on the chorus. ;)
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: andrea on December 12, 2007, 09:58:23 PM
could u send it to me too? invincible84@fastwebnet.it
thanks! ;)
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on December 13, 2007, 07:29:00 PM
it does sound like a live version

i think someone just remixed it
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 13, 2007, 11:14:20 PM
Nana carries that whole chorus. Britney sounds like crap by herself.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 01:33:41 AM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 13, 2007, 11:14:20 PM
Nana carries that whole chorus. Britney sounds like crap by herself.


i don't know why people love to reduce the value of everything britney does!!!!!,and make it less interesting or less valuable ,she did have help from max martin and the other cheiron producers,but on the other hand she did her part as a singer and a performer,she was a mega superstar ,and she had charisma that no other female singer has.

its unfair

and i don't see anything bad with the parts britney sing without the vocals of max martin or any other background vocals (on the main version of baby one more time)


for example ,on someday( i will understand) she made a very good ballad and emotional song without so much backgrounds vocals,and she proved that she can sing ballads ,in addition to the dance songs that she is famous for.

and finally if britney made a miracle and made the sun rise from the west, people will still bash her and make fun of her   :'(

its really sad :'(
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 02:07:45 AM
even Max Martin himself admitted that Britney has a good voice with a flavour.

in the video of Max Martin and Britney in the studio.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 14, 2007, 04:05:08 AM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 02:07:45 AM
even Max Martin himself admitted that Britney has a good voice with a flavour.

in the video of Max Martin and Britney in the studio.
that video was soooo funny. Max was struggling to think of SOMETHING positive to say about her voice. The only thing he could manage with a straight face was "she has a funky voice, with flavor" lol! Then he goes on to say that the Backstreet Boys had that too. He doesn't know anything about voices, and it's obvious.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on December 14, 2007, 06:20:06 AM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 14, 2007, 04:05:08 AM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 02:07:45 AM
even Max Martin himself admitted that Britney has a good voice with a flavour.

in the video of Max Martin and Britney in the studio.
that video was soooo funny. Max was struggling to think of SOMETHING positive to say about her voice. The only thing he could manage with a straight face was "she has a funky voice, with flavor" lol! Then he goes on to say that the Backstreet Boys had that too. He doesn't know anything about voices, and it's obvious.

He dont´know anything about voices??? Are you sure?? If that´s right he dont know anything about music at all.....On this you have so so so so wrong....He is one of the biggest writers/producers in the world but he don´t know anything about voices, totally wrong....
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: turnaround on December 14, 2007, 08:34:59 AM
I must say I read that too, that Max had lots of work to do after he recorded Britney's vocals.
He had to edit the vocals with autotune to make it sound as it should be? Savan wrote that once in a forum.
???
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on December 14, 2007, 01:56:23 PM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 14, 2007, 04:05:08 AM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 02:07:45 AM
even Max Martin himself admitted that Britney has a good voice with a flavour.

in the video of Max Martin and Britney in the studio.
that video was soooo funny. Max was struggling to think of SOMETHING positive to say about her voice. The only thing he could manage with a straight face was "she has a funky voice, with flavor" lol! Then he goes on to say that the Backstreet Boys had that too. He doesn't know anything about voices, and it's obvious.

and you would?!?
I think he has more experience in that area than you have
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on December 14, 2007, 05:51:43 PM
without britneys voice there would be now baby one more time,sometimes,oops,lucky ,stronger,overprotected m.m Don´t say anything her voice it´s great she is a great singer and max martin knows what he doing
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: turnaround on December 14, 2007, 05:59:25 PM
I just said what I remember from what Savan said.
And Savan surely knows Max and doesn't tell any lies.

Britney has surely not the best voice on the world but she is an entertainer and her voice and the Cheiron songs were just a perfect match and both parts are forever thankful it all happened I am sure.

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 07:19:22 PM
i agree with with nicky 100%,Max Martin is a geart producer and songwriter and knows much about voices and knows what he is doing and knows what he is talking about, if u listened carefully to the video ''he said Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour,and she has a good sense of catching the melody,can perform the melody and take it to another level and said that thats what he is looking for as a songwriter''

Max Martin did songs with Britney like ''i'm not a girl not yet a woman'' and ''where are you now'' thats a proof that Max Martin liked Britney's voice and gave her such these emotional songs to sing and prove herself as a singer in addition to many dance songs Max Martin and Britney did together .

max did that background vocals in many songs when he produced pop and it was part of his productions

for example he did that background vocals thing for the song
'' thats the way love is'' by celine dion,and many consider celine's voice is great,does that mean that celine has a bad voice so he did that vocals??!!!! 

savan was not a part of the cheiron group at that time,so i don't think he knows much about how Max Martin and Britney worked together.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on December 14, 2007, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 07:19:22 PM
i agree with with nicky 100%,Max Martin is a geart producer and songwriter and knows much about voices and knows what he is doing and knows what he is talking about, if u listened carefully to the video ''he said Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour,and she has a good sense of catching the melody,can perform the melody and take it to another level and said that thats what he is looking for as a songwriter''

Max Martin did songs with Britney like ''i'm not a girl not yet a woman'' and ''where are you now'' thats a proof that Max Martin liked Britney's voice and gave her such these emotional songs to sing and prove herself as a singer in addition to many dance songs Max Martin and Britney did together .

max did that background vocals in many songs when he produced pop and it was part of his productions

for example he did that background vocals thing for the song
'' thats the way love is'' by celine dion,and many consider celine's voice is great,does that mean that celine has a bad voice so he did that vocals??!!!! 

savan was not a part of the cheiron group at that time,so i don't think he knows much about how Max Martin and Britney worked together.

You have so right.....But i do think Savan knows more then we think ;)
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 14, 2007, 11:05:37 PM
I personally see that the Bbay One More time(vocal)is not good..it doesn't sound like the album version AT ALL,it is so clear that Max PIMPED the chorus and added something..but OVERALL she can sing.

The thing is that Britney has her own vocals and falava,she doesn't have strong vocals like Christina or Jessica Simpson,but her voice is cool and fits Max's productions.

she is a great performer,her songs with CHERION are/were great,and A HISTORY IN THE WORLD OF POP MUSIC,those songs made her where she is now.

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 11:45:53 PM
Britney is better than christina and jessica,christina's voice is noisy and boring.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on December 15, 2007, 10:01:04 AM
christina have a powerful voice!
Britney can't sing on stage .. but she has the perfect voice for pop music!
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 15, 2007, 12:42:12 PM
I love Britney's voice - a perfect voice for pop music. I'm sure there are many many singers who use autotune. I way prefer Britney's voice to Christina's - I like Christina but she belts and screams too much.

I think Max was hesitating in that video because English is not his first language not because he couldn't think of anything nice to say about Britney.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ahmed on December 15, 2007, 01:34:36 PM
i don't see him hesitating in the video,he didn't even say (errrr) when he talked about Britney.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 15, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 11:45:53 PM
Britney is better than christina and jessica,christina's voice is noisy and boring.
WHAT??? :o...No..are u kidding me Ahmed??..Christina and Jessica are way much better than Britney(bear in mind that I am Britney's biggest fan) but I can't hide the fact the those 2 girls can sing LIVE.
and yes Christina can be sooooo nosiy sometimes specially in Hurtshe screams at the top of her lungs.

Britney doesn't have vocals of a diva...but she can manage her tone
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 15, 2007, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 15, 2007, 12:42:12 PM
I love Britney's voice - a perfect voice for pop music. I'm sure there are many many singers who use autotune. I way prefer Britney's voice to Christina's - I like Christina but she belts and screams too much.

I think Max was hesitating in that video because English is not his first language not because he couldn't think of anything nice to say about Britney.

well Rebecca,I guess he is as fluent as a native speaker,even his accent is an American one..English isn't the problem,he stumbled over the words,looked for a perfect or let me say SUITABLE word to describe Britney.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on December 15, 2007, 02:25:05 PM
^ or if you are a person (like max) who isn't in front of the camaras that much

can YOU imagine being the one interviewed...
if it was me.. i would be totally stumbling and heistating over my words too ;)
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 15, 2007, 10:29:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=790hk55H-Tg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhIr4VkOKA


Britney has even said that she wishes she could sing like Christina, and that she loves her voice.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Alex Martin on December 15, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
Christina's voice is better than britney but i prefer britney for the song.

I love only a song by christina and is FIGHTER.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 15, 2007, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on December 15, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
Christina's voice is better than britney but i prefer britney for the song.

I love only a song by christina and is FIGHTER.

You might like this song, give it a listen.. it's my favorite Christina song ever. When this song ends, it blends into Fighter (on the album)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GcWl3KIPO0
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 16, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
I don't understand why anyone is trying to twist the words of Max to mean that he didn't like Britney's voice. When he said that "Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour, has a good sense of catching the melody" etc well then I believe that he thought that. If he needed to use autotune then big deal, so many singers would use autotune.

Okay, I can get that people think Christina has a better voice and I'm sure technically she does but she belts it too much for me and I'm not a fan of many of her songs. The only ones I love is Dirrty and What A Girl Wants.

But Jessica?  are we talking about Jessica Simpson? if so, I'm surprised, I just don't think she's that great a singer.

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Linda on December 16, 2007, 01:05:13 AM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 15, 2007, 11:23:37 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on December 15, 2007, 10:41:27 PM
Christina's voice is better than britney but i prefer britney for the song.

I love only a song by christina and is FIGHTER.

You might like this song, give it a listen.. it's my favorite Christina song ever. When this song ends, it blends into Fighter (on the album)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GcWl3KIPO0

thats one of my fave songs of that album...
she sings it perfectly
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 16, 2007, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 16, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
I don't understand why anyone is trying to twist the words of Max to mean that he didn't like Britney's voice. When he said that "Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour, has a good sense of catching the melody" etc well then I believe that he thought that. If he needed to use autotune then big deal, so many singers would use autotune.

Okay, I can get that people think Christina has a better voice and I'm sure technically she does but she belts it too much for me and I'm not a fan of many of her songs. The only ones I love is Dirrty and What A Girl Wants.

But Jessica?  are we talking about Jessica Simpson? if so, I'm surprised, I just don't think she's that great a singer.

lately she is a disaster,but I really love her vocal performance in songs like I Wanna Love You Forever,and A Little Bit. I remember Mariah Carey and Celine Dion once in an interview said that Jessica is gonna be our battle besides Christina.(sorry I hate Mariah carey's voice) but she and Celine are considered the divas of the pop music.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Alex Martin on December 16, 2007, 05:42:18 PM
Jessica Simpson? ? ? Terrible singer :'(
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 16, 2007, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on December 16, 2007, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 16, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
I don't understand why anyone is trying to twist the words of Max to mean that he didn't like Britney's voice. When he said that "Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour, has a good sense of catching the melody" etc well then I believe that he thought that. If he needed to use autotune then big deal, so many singers would use autotune.

Okay, I can get that people think Christina has a better voice and I'm sure technically she does but she belts it too much for me and I'm not a fan of many of her songs. The only ones I love is Dirrty and What A Girl Wants.

But Jessica?  are we talking about Jessica Simpson? if so, I'm surprised, I just don't think she's that great a singer.

lately she is a disaster,but I really love her vocal performance in songs like I Wanna Love You Forever,and A Little Bit. I remember Mariah Carey and Celine Dion once in an interview said that Jessica is gonna be our battle besides Christina.(sorry I hate Mariah carey's voice) but she and Celine are considered the divas of the pop music.
You hate THIS voice yet like Jessica Simpson?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUia3o3FJ0

???
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 18, 2007, 12:19:58 PM
agreed, I'm not even much of a fan of Mariah (except for her first single) but she is definitely more a talented singer than Jessica Simpson!
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 18, 2007, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 16, 2007, 09:14:10 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on December 16, 2007, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 16, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
I don't understand why anyone is trying to twist the words of Max to mean that he didn't like Britney's voice. When he said that "Britney has excellent voice, her voice has flavour, has a good sense of catching the melody" etc well then I believe that he thought that. If he needed to use autotune then big deal, so many singers would use autotune.

Okay, I can get that people think Christina has a better voice and I'm sure technically she does but she belts it too much for me and I'm not a fan of many of her songs. The only ones I love is Dirrty and What A Girl Wants.

But Jessica?  are we talking about Jessica Simpson? if so, I'm surprised, I just don't think she's that great a singer.

lately she is a disaster,but I really love her vocal performance in songs like I Wanna Love You Forever,and A Little Bit. I remember Mariah Carey and Celine Dion once in an interview said that Jessica is gonna be our battle besides Christina.(sorry I hate Mariah carey's voice) but she and Celine are considered the divas of the pop music.
You hate THIS voice yet like Jessica Simpson?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPUia3o3FJ0

???
no one in the world can change my view point,and NO PERFORMACE from her can change my view point,I don't like her and her voice.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 18, 2007, 08:41:45 PM
good for you. I actually don't like Mariah at all either, except for her first single which I still can't remember the name of! though I do like her Christmas song but I'm not a fan of any other song of hers, but still I prefer her voice to Jessica Simpsons.

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: princessofegypt on December 18, 2007, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 18, 2007, 08:41:45 PM
I actually don't like Mariah at all either, except for her first single which I still can't remember the name of!


Vision Of Love..
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Alex Martin on December 18, 2007, 10:18:03 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on December 19, 2007, 10:37:26 AM
Quote from: princessofegypt on December 18, 2007, 10:09:13 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on December 18, 2007, 08:41:45 PM
I actually don't like Mariah at all either, except for her first single which I still can't remember the name of!


Vision Of Love..

Thank you!
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ray on March 02, 2012, 08:07:00 PM
Quote from: ahmed on December 14, 2007, 02:07:45 AM
even Max Martin himself admitted that Britney has a good voice with a flavour.

in the video of Max Martin and Britney in the studio.

Im sorry to kick this topic up.

Can someone give me a link to this video? Thanks.
Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: Rebecca on March 02, 2012, 11:52:37 PM
Hi Ray, I think the video you're referring to is from Britney's "Time Out With Britney Spears" dvd:

Max speaks in part 3/7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuo-QHJpHPk

Title: Re: "Baby One More Time"
Post by: ray on March 03, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on March 02, 2012, 11:52:37 PM
Hi Ray, I think the video you're referring to is from Britney's "Time Out With Britney Spears" dvd:

Max speaks in part 3/7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wuo-QHJpHPk

Thank you! Great Video!