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Title: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 09, 2017, 11:19:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Pink/status/895201872201400320

A snippet of her new single, out this friday.

New album Beautiful Trauma out Oct 13th.
Features songs with Max & Shellback and Greg Kurstin, for sure!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXlnkLAFM18/
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on August 10, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
New song is out:

P!nk
Steve Mac
Johnny McDaid


[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/31MkGwj0SWgZaTvEt5Hgxv[/spotify]
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: Polarmachine on August 10, 2017, 03:19:25 PM
nah not to good. Similar to unconditionally 
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 10, 2017, 05:41:06 PM
I like it. Great lyrics and vocals from Pink.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on August 11, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
It is a grower. But for a lead single of the new era pretty weak.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 11, 2017, 07:57:47 PM
I agree with you both, guys.

I expected a Greg Kurstin banger!
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 16, 2017, 07:44:20 PM
Quote from: bugmenot on August 16, 2017, 10:47:13 AM
Greg Kurstin has only one song on the album — Where We Go (https://www.ascap.com/repertory#ace/search/title/Where%20We%20Go/writer/kurstin).

And Max Martin has nothing new registered with Alecia Moore on Ascap yet.

Well, the list of collaborators include Steve Mac, Johnny McDaid, Max Martin, Shellback, Jack Antonoff, Julia Michaels, Greg Kurstin and busbee.

Busbee does not produce, I hope Greg is all over the project. I love his sound.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on August 17, 2017, 01:55:08 PM
The video is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClU3fctbGls

The song is doing really well worldwide:

http://kworb.net/itunes/artist/p21nk.html
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on September 28, 2017, 05:42:14 PM
The title track of the album:

[spotify]spotify:track:1ipE3bBLWeLkIvxWUaxpSu[/spotify]

Song is by Jack Antonoff

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7981583/pink-teases-title-track-beautiful-trauma-jack-antonoff

https://twitter.com/Pink/status/913247780512006144
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 05, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Could this be the Max song?

[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/7iypwu1yQ4GftHl3nbUgK6[/spotify]
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: nanofives on October 06, 2017, 02:20:06 AM
Quote from: turnaround on October 05, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Could this be the Max song?

[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/7iypwu1yQ4GftHl3nbUgK6[/spotify]
Yes, absolutely, very similar to Just Like Fire, without the weird synths, which could be Oscar Holter differences with his absence in this song.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 07, 2017, 09:21:53 PM
"Whatever You Want." The track was produced and written by Max Martin and Shellback along with additional writing credits from Pink. The pop star has already released singles "What About Us" and "Beautiful Trauma."
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on October 07, 2017, 10:16:46 PM
Whatever you want - I love the songwriting but production wise it's safe and boring. Max could have invited Mattman & Robin to work on Pink record. Great songwriting plus the "magic touch" those guys have? It would be perfect.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 08, 2017, 05:10:12 AM
Upon the first few listens I'm not feeling the verses (bab-eh! part) too much but I enjoy the pre-chorus and chorus. Then the post-chorus I find that melody icky, the way she drops the "whatever you want...ahh-aah" line it's almost boringly delivered. But again, the chords in the chorus are lovely.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 08, 2017, 06:43:07 PM
I don't feel the song. It's like they just do the standard program - nothing in comparison to what they did already as a team.

P!nk also refuses to work with Dr Luke again - stating he is "not a good person".

I wonder how all the hits happened when the atmosphere with Dr Luke is always that awful.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 10, 2017, 12:40:11 AM
Reminds me of Blank Space a bit.

Not my fave.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 12, 2017, 09:09:05 PM
The credits are here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beautiful_Trauma

There are 3 Max songs.

"Revenge" (featuring Eminem)   
W: Moore Marshall Mathers, Karl Sandberg, Karl Schuster
P: Max Martin,Shellback

"Whatever You Want"   
W: Moore, Sandberg, Schuster
P: Martin

"Secrets"
W: Moore, Sandberg, Schuster, Oscar Holter
P: Martin, Shellback, Holter
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: nanofives on October 12, 2017, 11:05:58 PM
Wow, and some WF songs, is max the only producer on whatever you want? If so... it'd be the first time in almost 10 years that max is the only one producing a song.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 13, 2017, 06:06:48 PM
According to wikipdia there is even one more:

"For Now"
Moore, Michaels, Mattias Larsson, Robin Fredriksson, Sandberg

https://twitter.com/Shellback666/status/918869614771056640
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: nanofives on October 15, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
@Shellback666 @Pink omg dare to suck is such iconic martin johan terminology 😹

https://twitter.com/lorde/status/919560572307251200

Seems like a few more people call Shellback Johan instead of Karl
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 16, 2017, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: nanofives on October 15, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
@Shellback666 @Pink omg dare to suck is such iconic martin johan terminology 😹

https://twitter.com/lorde/status/919560572307251200

Seems like a few more people call Shellback Johan instead of Karl

Taylor calls him Johan as well.
Lorde must know Max and Shellback because of Taylor.

And I'm currently listening Beautiful Trauma and the first thing I hear is chimes and strings, like a Christmas song... :-\

Such a surprise to see The Struts on the credits. Loved the song.
But my absolute favorite tracks are the Greg Kurstin produced ones.

The da da da-da do dodo's in Secrets are SO Max.
Not really feeling any of the three tracks.

I expected more Greg Kurstin and Billy Mann songs in the album.


Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: nanofives on October 17, 2017, 03:13:27 AM
Revenge is a banger, a huge one.
P!nk should release that as the second single, hoping for it to be the N1 Max song of this year.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: SongsByGROVER on October 18, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
Yeah appears Revenge is the 2nd single. It's a cool tune, quite compelling in how weird it is.

But has anyone else noticed the enormous resemblance to 'Because I Got High' by Afroman? I hope they paid some sort of rights on that, otherwise they're gunna get so sued.. much more of a copy that Blurred Lines was! And a Max Martin lawsuit would be mad, big news probably!... No mention of Afroman or anyone else on the credits (as a sample/interpolation or as a writer other than Max/Shellback/Pink/Eminem)...

I'm also surprised that no one kicked up a fuss about "Hey Ya!" and "Shake It Off", that was also pretty blatent copying of the whole drum part, which they even admitted to (though much less striking than this one). Maybe they're just paying off these other people in private agreements?
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: turnaround on October 18, 2017, 11:36:33 AM
Because I Got High' by Afroman - this was my first association.

I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Taylor credited Right Said Fred for even less obvious interpolations.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: B Steady on October 19, 2017, 12:54:18 PM
What About Us could've been an absolute smash but the screams from the mid8 on are so super annoying. Completely overproduced and simply unnecessary. Are there other people in here who feel this way?

Whatever You Want: My favorite from the album. Sometimes it's "simple" productions like this, that make a song special. It's sad to see it's barely appreciated by you. @turnaround in the meantime wiki says "prod. by Max & Shellback". I don't think we'll ever get a solo Max production again.

Barbies is wonderful.

Where We Go is a smash!

For Now is too JM-esque, she should've used it for her EP instead what would've been a dumb decision economically.

Secrets is quite disappointing, weak chorus.

Better Life is such a cool song, Jack Antonoff on the beat 8)

You Get My Love is simply awful with all that screaming and these overproduced vocals.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 20, 2017, 05:31:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVRuJWRI_Q

The Apple documentary is available.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on October 24, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
Quote from: turnaround on October 08, 2017, 06:43:07 PM

P!nk also refuses to work with Dr Luke again - stating he is "not a good person".
I wonder how all the hits happened when the atmosphere with Dr Luke is always that awful.

Many of today's pop stars owe Dr Luke their careers and should be grateful to him. I don't know if he's a good person or not, but he delivered big time... and let's be honest, super talented/highly intelligent tend to be disturbed in some way, either emotionally or character wise (or both). I'm not trying to justify a rape or any kind of creepy and violent behaviour but it looks like those Kesha's accusation were false.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: turnaround on October 24, 2017, 11:36:07 PM
Is Max part of the documentary? 
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 25, 2017, 03:50:49 AM
Quote from: turnaround on October 24, 2017, 11:36:07 PM
Is Max part of the documentary?

Nope, not even a mention if I remember well.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: B Steady on January 29, 2018, 03:41:02 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on October 16, 2017, 10:49:43 PM
[...]

And I'm currently listening Beautiful Trauma and the first thing I hear is chimes and strings, like a Christmas song... :-\

[...]

Well, it's your problem if this makes you think of Christmas.
Title: Re: P!nk - What About Us from new album Beautiful Trauma
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 05, 2018, 05:42:59 PM
Quote from: B Steady on January 29, 2018, 03:41:02 PM
Well, it's your problem if this makes you think of Christmas.

Cheesy christmas.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 03, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
The video for Whatever You Want is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuAH21DkJow
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 25, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
The video for Secrets is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL20Eaeswfk

Remember this one was written by Oscar Holter, Shellback, Max Martin & P!nk ;)
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on July 25, 2018, 11:21:31 PM
Oh God, it's like she doesn't want to put any kind of effort in these videos. It's not on the same level as the song, although most of my friends doesn't see this song as radio-friendly.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 15, 2019, 06:14:18 AM
New album announced, out April 26th.
No Max Martin or the Cousins on the credits but there's a couple of interesting co-writes: Greg Kurstin + Beck, Teddy Geiger and Ryan Tedder plus The Monsters and the Strangers, Peter Thomas, Sasha Sloan, Wrabel + Steve Robson and UK singer Jetta (check her, she did some good stuff with Jim Elliott & Jemima Stillwell, they wrote many songs for/with Kylie Minogue, Will Young and Ellie Goulding).

New pre order is Hurts 2B Human and features Khalid.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 22, 2019, 08:23:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEfaLyx7OnU

P!nk performed Walk Me Home at Ellen's.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: turnaround on April 25, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
Quote from: getawaydriver on April 20, 2019, 04:32:12 AM
"Hey Why (Miss You Sometime)": Max Martin, P!nk & Shellback

On the new album.

https://open.spotify.com/track/0l6lfl4PcrbPmBE08I6zp2?si=ou6p83tMTKiSS7c9BiH8DQ

produced by Max and Shellback.

I think it's a left-over from an old session.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 25, 2019, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: turnaround on April 25, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
https://open.spotify.com/track/0l6lfl4PcrbPmBE08I6zp2?si=ou6p83tMTKiSS7c9BiH8DQ

produced by Max and Shellback.

I think it's a left-over from an old session.

It makes sense, this one has a wurly -or is it a rhodes? I can't tell because it's filtered- and Revenge has a rhodes.
At first listen I only liked the Greg Kurstin co-writes.

She needs to stick with her collaborators: Greg Kurstin brings the best out of her ALWAYS.
To me, this looks like a rush release. Is this her last release through RCA?
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on April 26, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
The album is very good overall, it's very powerful, Greg Kurstin songs are on point, the collaborations of the Wolf Cousin's are great, Max input is the most disappointing thing but it's still a grower for me.

I love how she handles working with old and new people at the same time.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on April 26, 2019, 10:08:49 PM
Quote from: turnaround on April 25, 2019, 03:45:08 PM
https://open.spotify.com/track/0l6lfl4PcrbPmBE08I6zp2?si=ou6p83tMTKiSS7c9BiH8DQ

produced by Max and Shellback.

I think it's a left-over from an old session.
too pop for P!nk.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: turnaround on April 27, 2019, 11:41:48 PM
Rami played additional guitar on "My Attic"
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: B Steady on July 29, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
A few days ago I stumbled upon Hey Why (Miss You Sometime) and really liked it! In the meantime I had forgotten this song is written and produced by Shell Martin. When I found that out I was just thinking "Oh they did it again".
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on July 29, 2019, 07:29:52 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 29, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
A few days ago I stumbled upon Hey Why (Miss You Sometime) and really liked it! In the meantime I had forgotten this song is written and produced by Shell Martin. When I found that out I was just thinking "Oh they did it again".

Did you pay attention to the sample where Pink sings on a high note "big" throughout the song? I've realized it existed after the fifth time I listened the song and it makes it so much better.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: B Steady on July 30, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
Quote from: nanofives on July 29, 2019, 07:29:52 PM
Did you pay attention to the sample where Pink sings on a high note "big" throughout the song? I've realized it existed after the fifth time I listened the song and it makes it so much better.

Funny: I read your comment earlier this day but was into other music.
Now the song came up again by accident and I recognized the high note without thinking of it. However, it bothers me that the "time" after "big" isn't doubled high as well.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 30, 2019, 08:26:32 PM
I'm not a big fan of all the bunch of these songs Max and Johan did with rhodes.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 13, 2021, 09:05:25 AM
Such a lovely song. Great production and lyrics...
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: uberweiss on November 02, 2022, 11:56:07 PM
New Max/Shellback song tomorrow. "Never Gonna Not Dance Again"
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on November 04, 2022, 11:35:47 AM
[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/6sZo5nJIsFWXefRCCexpx0?si=c03a546e1a2f4f67[/spotify]

Written by P!nk, Max Martin and Shellback
Produced by Max Martin and Shellback
P!nks siblings and Doris Sandberg provides vocals as well
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: uberweiss on November 04, 2022, 04:52:19 PM
Stale AF. The counter-melody towards the end is a cute Max moment, but it's a very disappointing CTSF! knock-off. Max's quality control has declined these last few years sadly.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on November 04, 2022, 07:59:22 PM
I like that the structure is atypical from Max and shellback, it lacks some punch but I think it will get stuck anyway.
I still love the vocal arrangements
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: RaulSwedishpop on November 05, 2022, 02:32:59 PM
I loved it instantly, it reminds me to Cant stop the feeling, the bridge and the energy of the chorus are amazing, best Max song this year so far.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 07, 2022, 02:23:50 AM
Mm, not into it.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on November 07, 2022, 09:01:13 AM
I don't mind this at all, actually it's better than I expected. I love the build up and the explosion of the chorus, the extended instrumental breakdown, the live instrumentation, and Pink's vocal delivery.

It's not as polished as Can't Stop the Feeling and I'm a bit bewildered that for a Max/Shellback production some of the vocals feel a bit rough. But I think that lends itself to a more "live" feel. The melody is great and overall it's a fun light song. Similar in sound scape to Shake it Off and 2 Be Loved

I wonder if we'll ever get dance pop Max again..
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: nanofives on November 07, 2022, 11:56:41 AM
It reminds me of Under You by Nick Jonas with all the double negatives.
Title: Re: P!nk - new album Beautiful Trauma (with 3 Max songs)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 07, 2023, 03:09:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWucuUrFKI&t=40s

P!NK & Kelly Clarkson: Songs & Stories.
Three parts.