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Katy Perry - "PRISM" out NOW!

Started by B Steady, July 30, 2013, 10:09:59 PM

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Joshua

I was about to settle for the standard edition when it was all I could find at our biggest cd store in the city, but then I asked and it turned out they had stacks of them up in front of the counters! Woo! Didn't want to miss out on the bonus tracks, let alone the seeds for the garden. Anyway, I enjoyed listening to this album so much on my way home tonight. Such good, honest, creative pop that has been taken seriously rather than for granted. No half baked electro club anthems just to fill another album, every track has it's place and has strong imagery that takes you on a bit of a trip, like a holiday. I dunno, it just feels like there's so much heart in these songs. "International Smile", "Birthday" and "Love Me" stand out as favourites so far, but I arrived home before getting to the end, so I'm saving the rest for a drive tomorrow.

georg_e


       That talk box solo on "International Smile" ..... (the 8 bar part that's like a real solo)........alot of chops on that, very well constructed solo -- think maybe it's Dr. Luke using guitar/talk box? Only one of those guys with that kind of instrumental solo experience, I think. Was hoping it'd be listed in liner notes, but it's not....

Joshua

Quote from: georg_e on November 01, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
       That talk box solo on "International Smile" ..... (the 8 bar part that's like a real solo)........alot of chops on that, very well constructed solo -- think maybe it's Dr. Luke using guitar/talk box?

It's definitely very "Thinking Of You" by Ke$ha!

georg_e

Quote from: Joshua on November 02, 2013, 03:29:02 AM
It's definitely very "Thinking Of You" by Ke$ha!

                          ha, I never heard that song til now -- it's EXACTLY very "Thinking of You"! :D    It's funny though --the solo on the Ke$ha one sound more like keyboard lines than guitar, almost like Bach or something......although the solo on "International Smile" has a little of that quality too. Is it possible these solos are programmed in somehow rather than played?

Joshua

Quote from: georg_e on November 02, 2013, 03:55:00 PM
                          ha, I never heard that song til now -- it's EXACTLY very "Thinking of You"! :D    It's funny though --the solo on the Ke$ha one sound more like keyboard lines than guitar, almost like Bach or something......although the solo on "International Smile" has a little of that quality too. Is it possible these solos are programmed in somehow rather than played?

It could be programmed, but there are keyboard players who pull this kind of stuff off with ease. I'd say it's more likely keys than guitar. Yeah that one really fast scale-like part sounds pretty much identical to "Thinking Of You". Not sure if it was mentioned on this forum or somewhere else, but if you listen carefully to "Thinking Of You", you'll hear in the beginning of the talk box part the lyrics "suck my p***s"... I would never have known until someone said, now it sticks out (no pun intended) like nothing else! :D

Been listening to PRISM again tonight, and I hate to overreact to a new record and change my mind a week later, but I'm just about prepared to say this is the one of the best pop albums I've heard in the last decade. The best maybe? I don't know if I want to go that far yet, but it's up there. Listening from start to finish is a real experience, hopefully it will have longevity, which I guess is another big test after the excitement fades.

georg_e

Quote from: Joshua on November 02, 2013, 04:36:55 PM
It could be programmed, but there are keyboard players who pull this kind of stuff off with ease. I'd say it's more likely keys than guitar. Yeah that one really fast scale-like part sounds pretty much identical to "Thinking Of You". Not sure if it was mentioned on this forum or somewhere else, but if you listen carefully to "Thinking Of You", you'll hear in the beginning of the talk box part the lyrics "suck my p***s"... I would never have known until someone said, now it sticks out (no pun intended) like nothing else! :D

Been listening to PRISM again tonight, and I hate to overreact to a new record and change my mind a week later, but I'm just about prepared to say this is the one of the best pop albums I've heard in the last decade. The best maybe? I don't know if I want to go that far yet, but it's up there. Listening from start to finish is a real experience, hopefully it will have longevity, which I guess is another big test after the excitement fades.
haha, and on the main lyrics I think she says "Suck my d**k", so that would make sense :D    Yes, I know there's zillions of keyboard players who can do those solos, but on liner notes of PRISM it only lists Dr. Luke, Max and Cirkut as doing "ALL" playing/programming  on "International Smile".....I'm almost certain neither Max or Luke  plays piano with that facility (Luke does, of course with guitar) which leaves Cirkut, but I couldn't  find any info on his keyboard background. That's why I'm wondering who did it....

          I agree on PRISM......it's got a great collection of songs, but somehow the whole album has a unique texture to it that really has a unified sound/feel.......I hear it as colors.....it's so autumnal.....I could hear that even from the clips, which is why I wanted to buy it... and as for singles, I only have the standard version, but to me, the only songs on that couldn't be singles are "Love Me", "This MOment'' and "By the Grace of God"........."Double Rainbow" to me is a really great song, one of the best on there-- would be perfect as the last single.

j.fco.morales

Guys, it's a talk box.
The other possibility is that they did something inspired by Klas Ahlund on "Call Your Girlfriend" by Robyn.
He took a vocal part and chopped it, and did some pitching on Melodyne to build a solo part.

Check Stevie Wonder using talk box in the early 70s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARkcpUuqIW4


georg_e

#352
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 02, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Guys, it's a talk box.
The other possibility is that they did something inspired by Klas Ahlund on "Call Your Girlfriend" by Robyn.
He took a vocal part and chopped it, and did some pitching on Melodyne to build a solo part.

Check Stevie Wonder using talk box in the early 70s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARkcpUuqIW4
OK, good thanks-- that's what I'm trying to find out :-)  So maybe they could also work out the part (vocally or using keyboard) at a much slower tempo and then speed it up, right?  (cuz nobody can sing those lines at that speed).  I'm talking only about the part that sounds like a synth solo....... see, I'm used to hearing solos like that by David Foster on lots of hits from the 80's, but he had the keyboard chops to play them himself on synth, that's why it caught my ear....for a great example, check out the solo at 2.59 sec on this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZaHstPoqo   Incredible the way it leads into the modulation!!!

georg_e

#353
     That ''La la la la la" hook in "Legendary Lovers" has a classic pop pedigree.......it's the hook that runs thru this whole Shirelle's song starting at  .12 sec    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrxjk3qgRc     One of those hooks that's just in everybody's pop DNA :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_It's_You

J_A24

Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 02, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Guys, it's a talk box.
The other possibility is that they did something inspired by Klas Ahlund on "Call Your Girlfriend" by Robyn.
He took a vocal part and chopped it, and did some pitching on Melodyne to build a solo part.

Check Stevie Wonder using talk box in the early 70s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARkcpUuqIW4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up1KTp1BGi0

man I love talkbox :)

j.fco.morales

Quote from: georg_e on November 02, 2013, 05:46:21 PM
   OK, good thanks-- that's what I'm trying to find out :-)  So maybe they could also work out the part (vocally or using keyboard) at a much slower tempo and then speed it up, right?  (cuz nobody can sing those lines at that speed).  I'm talking only about the part that sounds like a synth solo....... see, I'm used to hearing solos like that by David Foster on lots of hits from the 80's, but he had the keyboard chops to play them himself on synth, that's why it caught my ear....for a great example, check out the solo at 2.59 sec on this  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZaHstPoqo   Incredible the way it leads into the modulation!!!

Klas did and amazing job with the chopped solo on Robyn's Call Your Girlfriend.
The song was co-produced by Billboard, the canadian guy that co-produced most of Femme Fatale with Luke.
Check it out at 2.25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ImxY6hnfA

PS: He had an interesting EP and placements. Like this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPQJ0-XCsIE

Joshua

#356
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 02, 2013, 05:28:10 PM
Guys, it's a talk box.

Yeah, but a talkbox can be used with guitar or synth (with either programmed midi or live playing), so I think George was just asking what source they were feeding into the talkbox.

Check this out George! :D

http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/how-it-works-talkbox-101/4463

I'd forgotten about that solo part in "Call Your Girlfriend", so good!

Rebecca

#357
Quote from: georg_e on October 31, 2013, 01:56:19 AM
   BSteady.....have a look at this link http://www.maxmartinfansite.com/      If it wasn't for Rebecca (and then Turnaround) this Forum wouldn't even exist. It's not called the "Click Detective Forum", did you notice?  So don't go telling a music lover she should join some Katy Perry fansite because she poked a little fun at your click mania -- which by the way has NOTHING to do with music, as most people hear it. Have some respect at LEAST for the people who make this Forum possible.

Thanks George
@BSteady, I wasn't too offended

This album is one of the best albums for me too. I'm totally obsessed with International Smile, This Is How We Do and and Birthday

turnaround

#358
Lol, this is really funny, but I see their point:

Katy Perry's 'Prism' Ruled Potential Biohazard in Australia


QuoteSeed packets included with album concern the authorities

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/katy-perrys-prism-ruled-potential-biohazard-in-australia-20131105#ixzz2joe7Lqhl



And here is a track by track.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCIVlrUWMn8
And I liked it..

Rebecca