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Title: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on May 27, 2015, 11:17:40 PM
The legend continues.

Congratulations.

It's Ilya's first, Shellback's ninth and Taylor's fourth.


http://m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/126838




Quoteilya_music
15 years ago I set a goal! This is crazy!!! We're #1 on Billboard Hot-100!!! @shellback666 @taylorswift @kendricklamar . My first as a producer! THANK YOU @shellback666 and #MaximusMartinio for letting me help out with this one ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ #BadBlood
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on May 28, 2015, 01:42:38 PM
First of all, congratulations go to Ilya for his 1st. Very well deserved! And of course Max is now in a club with two Beatles so that just says it all. Holy shit!
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: gm33 on May 28, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
Billboard story on Max:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6576210/taylor-swift-bad-blood-max-martin-20th-number-1-hot-100
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on May 28, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
Thanks for posting. We are really spoiled with Max Martin footage lately. It's been a while he has been totally under the radar of the media.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on May 28, 2015, 07:27:08 PM
Ilya says it is his first as a producer. Has he co-written one before?
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: ShockdioN on May 28, 2015, 10:06:35 PM
Quote from: turnaround on May 28, 2015, 07:27:08 PM
Ilya says it is his first as a producer. Has he co-written one before?

he's mostly known for his co-writing, He made the remix production to Bad Blood :D
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Romb on May 29, 2015, 02:37:38 AM
Quote from: turnaround on May 28, 2015, 03:06:36 PM
Thanks for posting. We are really spoiled with Max Martin footage lately. It's been a while he has been totally under the radar of the media.

America  8) You can't really hide from the world living in LA  :)
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 29, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
Is it me or Billboard writes about Max everytime they can?
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on May 29, 2015, 04:54:15 PM
They do now that he's out there.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: ShockdioN on May 29, 2015, 04:55:58 PM
they didnt mention Ilya at all...
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Rebecca on May 30, 2015, 11:58:58 AM
Amazing news! Max finally got to the 20! and great news for Shellback, Taylor and Ilya.
It's so great that Billboard write about Max.
Which song for no.21?
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: B Steady on May 30, 2015, 12:32:43 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on May 30, 2015, 11:58:58 AM
Which song for no.21?

a Backstreet Boys one please
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on May 30, 2015, 03:40:04 PM
I think it's P!nk's turn again.

Or will The Weeknd have a surprise #1? Or Taylor Swift with another single?

At the latest Katy Perry will do the trick.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 30, 2015, 10:09:36 PM
Pink is working with Greg Kurstin and to me, she is going on a edgier route music wise.

I'd go for The Weeknd collaboration, Ariana or Britney, hopefully.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Jules on June 01, 2015, 12:39:23 AM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on May 30, 2015, 10:09:36 PM
or Britney, hopefully.

Hahaha.
Hahahahahaha.
A-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Flopney.
Hahahahahaha.

Good one. ::)
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Romb on June 01, 2015, 08:50:49 AM
Not to say the song is not good, but honestly...I think it is not worth Billboard #1.

Max and co are in an interesting situation - whatever they do it has this head start and everyone takes it from the perspective that it was created by Max, so it is the definition of quality. And don't get me wrong, this is true in a lot of cases  8) I just think there is a lot of pre judgement.

Let's just say no one would know this song was created by Taylor and Max, let's say it would be released by someone not that known, my opinion is that "Bad Blood"  then wouldn't make it into charts at all. Again, not that it's a bad song, no. It's jut not a good enough, at least the remix version. And I'm trying not to throw my personal taste in here, I'm trying to compare it to other songs that Max/Shellback has had their magic touch to.

P.S. Oh, btw, anyone noticed that they used the same chord progression as in "We are never getting back together"?  ;)
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 01, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
I don't like the song and I agree with you about this being overhyped.

When you have global superstar status and do the right promo, you can achieve success like this.

Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 05, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
The race for #21 is on. Both "Can't Feel My Face" and "Cool For the Summer" are going to make a real push over the upcoming weeks. "Can't Feel My Face" probably has the best shot right now but "Cool For the Summer" is apparently going to be Demi's biggest hit to date (from what I hear). Max on FIRE!
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Rebecca on July 05, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
Quote from: sweetmelody on July 05, 2015, 12:31:54 AM
The race for #21 is on. Both "Can't Feel My Face" and "Cool For the Summer" are going to make a real push over the upcoming weeks. "Can't Feel My Face" probably has the best shot right now but "Cool For the Summer" is apparently going to be Demi's biggest hit to date (from what I hear). Max on FIRE!

I think either of those songs have the potential for No.1!
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 05, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
I think both songs will be #1.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: B Steady on July 05, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
The Weeknd will never have a Billboard single #1
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on July 05, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
What makes you say this? His career might be long and when the perfect song comes along he eventually will? :)
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: B Steady on July 05, 2015, 07:05:15 PM
Quote from: turnaround on July 05, 2015, 06:50:12 PM
What makes you say this?

That's the way it is
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 06, 2015, 05:29:54 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 05, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
The Weeknd will never have a Billboard single #1

Never say never. Weeknd's song is the 2nd most added song at radio behind Demi so far this week, but he's killing Demi in sales. He's only slightly behind that dreadful Cheerleader song by Omi. Speaking of that song, it will give Max some big competition for #1 this week.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 06, 2015, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 05, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
I think both songs will be #1.

It is unlikely since they are out around the same time and will compete not only against each other but with some other strong records. It'll be one or the other, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on July 06, 2015, 09:09:25 PM
And since there is no natural law preventing The Weekend to get that #1 I still think it will happen.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: B Steady on July 06, 2015, 09:44:12 PM
I hope the songs will get the first two spots and after one week they swap! But unfortunately The Weeknd will never have a Billboard single #1.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on July 07, 2015, 01:04:30 AM
The weeknd can definitely get there, maybe not with cant feel my face even though its his poppiest track yet but its possible, he s building his audience still
Cool for the summer is Demi's best chance to get to the top of the charts so far
And to whomever mentionned they thought cheerleader was horrible, I called it that it d be a massive hit the first time I heard it, even sent it out to some music biz colleagues
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 07, 2015, 05:21:35 AM
I think The Weeknd already built his fanbase, but his label is trying to abroad his audience with mainstream sounding songs.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 07, 2015, 03:01:23 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 06, 2015, 09:44:12 PM
But unfortunately The Weeknd will never have a Billboard single #1.

Why do you keep saying that? Just curious what your reasoning is.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 07, 2015, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: sonnyblack2000 on July 07, 2015, 01:04:30 AM
The weeknd can definitely get there, maybe not with cant feel my face even though its his poppiest track yet but its possible, he s building his audience still
Cool for the summer is Demi's best chance to get to the top of the charts so far
And to whomever mentionned they thought cheerleader was horrible, I called it that it d be a massive hit the first time I heard it, even sent it out to some music biz colleagues

That was me. I just don't get the song. It's corny to me.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on July 07, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
The Weeknd is #2 on iTunes and still #1 on Spotify USA. (over 748 000 streams / day)

Song has more than 30 million plays on Spotify worldwide.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2015, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: turnaround on July 07, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
#1 on Spotify USA. (over 748 000 streams / day)

Song has more than 30 million plays on Spotify worldwide.

I bet that earned him a good $500!  ::)
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on July 07, 2015, 09:33:09 PM
And the label a lot more. Pity he does not get more from them.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2015, 04:46:55 AM
The money splits in different ways to each, everyone gets part of the cake.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 11:00:22 PM
the next #1 is See You Again
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 09, 2015, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 11:00:22 PM
the next #1 is See You Again

It's been #1 for a while now. I think Cheerleader will take the #1 spot next.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 16, 2015, 10:13:40 PM
Cheerleader #1, but Can't Feel My Face jumps from 6-3 and is on fire with airplay and sales.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 22, 2015, 11:10:45 PM
#2 this week. Cool for the Summer has dropped off. Looks like this could very well be #21.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: Rebecca on July 23, 2015, 12:51:09 PM
ooohhh, getting closer!
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 28, 2015, 07:14:15 PM
Looks very likely that #1 is coming this week.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: turnaround on July 28, 2015, 07:48:04 PM
New charts are released this Thursday? I have no clue - why does it say August 8th on the Billboard Top 100 site?

He is still dominating the iTunes Charts, Spotify. If the radios play him too it must be this week.

It is already #1 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

I wonder how many #1 songs Max had on these charts?
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: sweetmelody on July 29, 2015, 04:48:02 PM
Quote from: turnaround on July 28, 2015, 07:48:04 PM
New charts are released this Thursday? I have no clue - why does it say August 8th on the Billboard Top 100 site?

He is still dominating the iTunes Charts, Spotify. If the radios play him too it must be this week.

It is already #1 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs

I wonder how many #1 songs Max had on these charts?

Every Wednesday. So he's #2 this week again. I think he'll still get there, but that Omi song is still dominating overall (radio, sales, streaming).
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 29, 2015, 06:25:09 PM
I had no idea that Cheerleader song -I just can't with the autotune raped vocals- was from 2012 and the charting one is a remix, produced by a guy from Ultra Records.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: RoyFan on October 26, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
Here you go Jc I'm posting here :-)   Since this thread started, has anyone read or heard in a Taylor interview what melodic content Max created in Bad Blood?

I believe it's one of the ones she didn't have a demo of yes? 
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2015, 05:54:39 PM
At the time we have information about:

1. Style being written over an Ali Payami track.
2. Out of the woods and I Wish You Would being written over a Jack Antonoff track.
3. Shake It Off being the last song written for 1989 over some chords Max played.
4. Most of the songs were written on guitar or piano and presented to Max and Johan for further development. Songs like Stay -written on guitar, Taylor dreamed about the high pitched "Stay"-, How You Get the Girl, Blank Space and Wildest Dreams, for example.
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: RoyFan on October 28, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
thanks indeed Jfc!  good stuff!
i'm assuming we don't know if topline to style was all Taylor?
Title: Re: "Bad blood" is the 20th Billboard #1 for Max
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 28, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
A really nice acoustic rendition of "Out of the Woods"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHN0ca6lf1c