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Title: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: uberweiss on August 27, 2015, 10:22:49 PM
QuoteDanger Mouse has been working on the album, and Max Martin has contributed a single.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6678365/adele-new-album-fall-preview

WOW.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on August 27, 2015, 10:29:56 PM
Damn!!
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Post by: ShockdioN on August 27, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
OOHH MY GOOOD !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: turnaround on August 27, 2015, 10:34:26 PM
Now there's the question:

Will her album be bigger than 1989?

This is quite a surprise. But she worked with Ryan Tedder, why not bring it to another level.

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 28, 2015, 12:28:55 AM
I really have high hopes on this: a songwriter heavily based on lyrics and a heavy weight producer focused on melodies can't bring nothing but an amazing song.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Polarmachine on August 28, 2015, 11:42:44 AM
yeahhhh yeahhhhh wow  ;)

man oh man
this'll be interesting
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: sweetmelody on August 28, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
Interesting! Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: B Steady on August 29, 2015, 11:23:51 AM
That's huge, no matter how the song will turn out.

@turnaround: I'm sure Adele's album will exceed the 10m mark.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Feelgoodlies on August 29, 2015, 06:07:58 PM
I honestly don't know how this will turn out. I don't like her, she is a very boring singer and her music has nothing to do with what Max normally does. Choosing him as a producer says nothing but a" safe and successful single and album sales."
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Polarmachine on August 29, 2015, 06:32:53 PM
shellback mentioned he had been working with Adele in that big magazine interview this summer. So it's a Max & Shellback song. That was a long time ago! :)

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: volkanyurdabak on September 20, 2015, 11:55:10 AM
Adele's voice is great. Max Martin's songwriting is great, so the song will be great. There's no doubt.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 20, 2015, 08:12:02 PM
Remember Max wrote with James Blunt and the song is actually pretty nice actually.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Polarmachine on October 18, 2015, 10:11:37 PM
adele previewed a new song between commercials during X-factor. It's just a verse.
http://www.justjared.com/2015/10/18/adele-debuts-new-song-in-promo-for-upcoming-album-video/ (http://www.justjared.com/2015/10/18/adele-debuts-new-song-in-promo-for-upcoming-album-video/)

Benny Blanco wrote this on twitter:
-----------------------------------------------------
"New Adele song bout to make us all wanna quit"
-----------------------------------------------------


I'm excited about this guys!!  ::)
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on October 18, 2015, 11:31:17 PM
What we hear in the snippet is very good.
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 19, 2015, 06:16:57 PM
so Benny co-produced?
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 19, 2015, 09:16:29 PM
Even in the snippet you can tell it's an amazing song.
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Post by: georg_e on October 20, 2015, 02:17:24 AM
Quote from: sweetmelody on October 19, 2015, 09:16:29 PM
Even in the snippet you can tell it's an amazing song.
I agree....so simple, but so powerful.....it's on some kind of  higher level......
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 20, 2015, 05:06:49 AM
I loved it.

I'm scared about the sonic direction of the album: I like classic sounding music for songwriters.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on October 20, 2015, 06:06:46 PM
I envy you guys because I can't predict if it's "an amazing song" after this 20 seconds... The vocal performance is great though.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Eddie Krommer on October 23, 2015, 08:58:59 AM
It's here (video + song):

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6738252/adele-comeback-song-hello-25

Beautiful song!
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Post by: Polarmachine on October 23, 2015, 09:40:57 AM
 It's produced by Greg Kurstin.
It's amazing! Deserves to be a hot100  nr 1 for sure. And will be
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on October 23, 2015, 09:43:23 AM
Yep....here's a Grammy song ladies and gentlemen.
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Post by: turnaround on October 23, 2015, 10:58:26 AM
I love Adele.

But the best thing about the album being on iTunes to pre-order.

"Send My Love (To Your New Lover)"     
Adkins, Karl Johan Schuster, Max Martin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_(Adele_album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_(Adele_album))
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: ShockdioN on October 23, 2015, 03:01:46 PM
I love HELLO. I do hope the 2nd single will be "Send My Love (To Your New Lover)"
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 23, 2015, 03:42:37 PM
I wanted to know who produced the song and found it was Greg.

I didn't like it at first listen, didn't like the chorus and the lyrics are a bit cheesy...
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: jelfmusic on October 23, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
I like this song, you know. Although sonically it does feel different to '21' as '21' was very "live" and classic sounding which I think was another element to it being HUGELY popular. With 'Hello' the writing is of course brilliant as all Adele songs are but I am not great fan of Kurstins production in general and you can always hear a Kurstin production on the radio somehow.

Neverless I am still really excited for '25' and I really can't wait to hear the Max song, it'll be really interesting to see what they do with production on the song as a lot of Max's cuts lately have been heavily electronic and sounding nothing like an "Adele" song.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: uberweiss on October 23, 2015, 06:29:00 PM
That chorus is absolutely massive. Love the song. So excited for Max/Shellback/Adele.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: volkanyurdabak on October 23, 2015, 07:59:57 PM
Send My Love will rule Christmas 2015 like Blank Space did in 2014. I'm very excited about the song.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Rebecca on October 24, 2015, 11:23:53 AM
Hello is good but as soon as it's finished I've forgotten it. I'm sure it will be a massive hit. I'm looking forward to the Max song too.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Adam B on October 25, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
What a phenomenon Adele is, I never understood she was this popular. Many people must have been waiting for her to release anything, because the song is not that good. It's ok, but nothing special.

Greg Kurstin however is becoming my favourite producer, I think.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on October 25, 2015, 09:02:30 AM
Quote from: Adam B on October 25, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
Many people must have been waiting for her to release anything, because the song is not that good.
In my opinion she deserves all the success she has but I was thinking exactly the same when the 20 seconds song preview was released. Many listeners were overexcited and the internet went crazy but then, I was blown away after I listened to the full song. I think it's her voice that takes the song to the next level.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 25, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Seeing the video while hearing the song for the first time was exciting, but I haven't given the song a second play. I'm sure I will. It's good, but it didn't pull me in enough to make me love it.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 26, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
Quote from: melodicmoonlight on October 25, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Seeing the video while hearing the song for the first time was exciting, but I haven't given the song a second play. I'm sure I will. It's good, but it didn't pull me in enough to make me love it.

You can't escape, it's going to catch you.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on October 26, 2015, 07:03:42 PM
Waited til now to listen to full song....was a little afraid it wouldn't live up to that clip, but no --- love it! And I think this will wear very well on repeated listens.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2015, 08:03:26 PM
http://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/adele-exclusive-full-cover-story-i-d

One day she and Tedder were having lunch and Taylor Swift's Trouble came on the radio. "I was like, 'I love this song, who did this?' and he's like 'Max,' and I'm like, 'Oo's Max?' and he's like 'Max Martin!' and I'm like, 'Oo's Max Martin?'" The world's number one songwriter, she discovered after Tedder sent her a YouTube clip of his work. The song provides another 'moment' for 25. Send My Love To Your New Lover is a bit like Martin's Can't Feel My Face for the Weeknd - totally unexpected. It has a bit of a calypso vibe ("It's a bit of fun, innit? You ain't got to be dark all the time") and an amazing opening line: This was all you/ none of it me. "I love it, it's fucking sick," she says. "Straight away, a million people in my life will be like, 'Oh shit, what have I done...'"

It's an uptempo song.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on October 27, 2015, 10:47:25 PM
Wow, that interview is eye opening, that she wrote some stuff for this album and got told "Nope, not good enough". Cuz I kind of always think with someone like Adele who had the biggest album in the history of the Universe, that would never happen :-)
    I also get a kick out of the fact she didn't know who Max Martin was, LOL!! Kinda puts things in perspective........
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Rebecca on October 28, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
wow, I find it unbelievable that Adele had no idea who Max was. She must not be a fan of pop music.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on October 28, 2015, 04:17:19 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on October 28, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
She must not be a fan of pop music.
That would be highly ironic, since she's one of the biggest selling pop singers (if not THE biggest) in the Known Universe  :-D
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Feelgoodlies on October 28, 2015, 05:46:46 PM
^I think by that Rebecca means "the cheiron kind of pop".

I don't know why she is so overrated. I mean come on, even this new single "Hello" sounds so basic and very straight forward. If this was done by Christina or Rihanna it would've flopped and caused a criticism from people.

I'm happy Max is getting her out of the misery she's been leading since (19??) and we get to see the other side of her musically!
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on October 28, 2015, 06:26:57 PM
            ^    ^    ^

I'm not looking forward to a "calypso" sound from her.  Some people do "misery" best (or at least "pissed off"  :-)
Adele is one of them.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Rebecca on October 28, 2015, 09:30:36 PM
Yes, I meant the Cheiron pop and also everything else Max has written, he's had so many hits. I find it incredible that at no point before Taylor Swift did she not wonder who wrote those songs? Katy Perry, Pink, non-Cheiron Britney?
She may only be interested in English artists or rock artists, or she must be totally self-absorbed.

I've never been a fan of her, I don't like her songs or the way she sings. She seems nice in interviews though. The song Hello is forgettable. I agree, Feelgoodlies, if it was sung by someone else, it would be a flop.
I am looking forward to her song with Max though. Something upbeat will be nice.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: volkanyurdabak on November 12, 2015, 04:36:40 PM
Adele's voice is the greatest and Max Martin's songwriting is the best. I cannot even imagine how good the song will be.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: uberweiss on November 17, 2015, 08:41:53 PM
2 minute snippets!

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/adele-25/592126-01/

Send my love to your new lu-HUH-ver.

Max has a lyrical obsession with ghosts lately.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on November 17, 2015, 09:31:58 PM
Reminds me of Cher Lloyd's With Ur Love.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Polarmachine on November 18, 2015, 11:03:42 AM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 17, 2015, 09:31:58 PM
Reminds me of Cher Lloyd's With Ur Love.

My expectations were too high. Adele and Max&Shellback could've been amazing but this is a pretty random tune.
Sounds like a an acoustic version of a Cher Lloyd song.  And that is not something positive lol.

I do like the raw guitar sound a lot. But the melodies are too weak.
Note: ive only heard the 2 minute snippet.

I wanted like a My Life Would Suck Wothout You kind of song
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on November 18, 2015, 03:31:10 PM
Yeah. Meh.

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Post by: j.fco.morales on November 18, 2015, 04:49:12 PM
It wasn't a good idea to put them together, actually. High hopes all over the place.

Linda Perry would have been a perfect collaborator or a country based songwriter.
Just think about Labrinth writing the amazing Jealous with Josh Kear and Natalie Hemby.

Tracklist:
Hello | Adele Adkins & Greg Kurstin
Send My Love (To Your New Lover) | Adele Adkins, Max Martin & Shellback
I Miss You | Adele Adkins & Paul Epworth
When We Were Young | Adele Adkins & Tobias Jesso Jr.
Remedy | Adele Adkins & Ryan Tedder
Water Under the Bridge | Adele Adkins & Greg Kurstin
River Lea | Adele Adkins & Brian Burton
Love In the Dark | Adele Adkins & Samuel Dixon
Million Years Ago | Adele Adkins & Greg Kurstin
All I Ask | Adele Adkins, Bruno Mars, Philip Lawrence & Christopher "Brody" Brown
Sweetest Devotion | Adele Adkins & Paul Epworth

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on November 19, 2015, 03:26:11 PM
Send My Love (To Your New Lover) was also discussed to be the first single.
She mentions Max in the Beat 1 interview on iTunes.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 19, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
I am currently listening the album.
I'm not impressed.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: bugmenot on November 19, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
Send My Love don't sounds uptempo song to me, as promised
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Post by: georg_e on November 19, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
I admire that Adele has decided not to stream the album. Because she's proving that if the music is good enough to make gazillions of people want it........they WILL go out and BUY it!  Kinda like the music industry used to be, hmmm?
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: bugmenot on November 20, 2015, 08:29:26 AM
that music is not good enough, I don't want to sound bitter.
I think labels decided to leave stream services, not artists.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on November 20, 2015, 06:58:25 PM
Adele: composer, vocals, backing vocals & guitar
Max Martin: composer, producer, backing vocals
Shellback: composer, producer, programming and percussion



(http://f.666kb.com/i/d3z9uk3ik78d0udmb.jpg)

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Feelgoodlies on November 21, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
"Send My Love" so boring, so Adele!!
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 21, 2015, 04:46:41 PM
Sometimes I get lost about the recordings: sometimes they record on LA, sometimes on STHLM, sometimes in London... damn!

Where is Max based right now? LA?
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Post by: sonnyblack2000 on November 21, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
Buying music is an old model of consuming music, its a last ditch effort from the artist and label at a cash grab the old school way. Leaving the album off the streaming platforms is a mistake. You want listens not sales. Sure the payment is screwed up right now but that s mostly the labels fault and it will change and once everyone is on the streaming platforms there ll be more money and better data then ever before.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on November 21, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: sonnyblack2000 on November 21, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
Buying music is an old model of consuming music, its a last ditch effort from the artist and label at a cash grab the old school way. Leaving the album off the streaming platforms is a mistake. You want listens not sales. Sure the payment is screwed up right now but that s mostly the labels fault and it will change and once everyone is on the streaming platforms there ll be more money and better data then ever before.
We shall see. But why is "buying music" outdated in the first place? Because the industry made the mistake of starting to give it away for free in the first place!  Before that, did people have the option of getting "free" CD's instead of paying for them? Of course not!  But they've made it so easy to get everything free, of COURSE people get used to that, and start DEMANDING it even.  If streaming is really ever gonna work, they're gonna have to shut off -- completely-- this whole giant system of free distribution, INCLUDING YouTube.  People will yell and scream, but too bad! Do they give food away free? People want music, let 'em pay for it again. Not saying I don't take advantage of the free stuff too, because I do. But I'd gladly give up that convenience and go back to the old way of if I wanted to hear a song I loved on the radio whenever I wanted to, then I had to BUY it. It wasn't such a terrible system: in fact, it was more exciting that way, instead of everything being handed you in an endless tsunami.
PS "All about listens" doesn't put money on songwriters bank accounts. (see the story of the "All About That Bass" songwriter). They keep saying, hold on, it will EVENTUALLY, but we shall see....

PPS Which do you think is gonna generate more money for songwriter and artist: the "New Model", or
this ? :-)   http://m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/148605
     
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 22, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Streaming is not a industry based business model: is a response to 40 years of a model of abusive consumption.

The labels made lots of money all these years.
People got tired of abusive prices and other people found a way to make money out of it and build their empires.

Digital revolution, basically.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Oroz on November 22, 2015, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: georg_e on November 21, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
We shall see. But why is "buying music" outdated in the first place? Because the industry made the mistake of starting to give it away for free in the first place!  Before that, did people have the option of getting "free" CD's instead of paying for them? Of course not!  But they've made it so easy to get everything free, of COURSE people get used to that, and start DEMANDING it even.  If streaming is really ever gonna work, they're gonna have to shut off -- completely-- this whole giant system of free distribution, INCLUDING YouTube.  People will yell and scream, but too bad! Do they give food away free? People want music, let 'em pay for it again. Not saying I don't take advantage of the free stuff too, because I do. But I'd gladly give up that convenience and go back to the old way of if I wanted to hear a song I loved on the radio whenever I wanted to, then I had to BUY it. It wasn't such a terrible system: in fact, it was more exciting that way, instead of everything being handed you in an endless tsunami.
PS "All about listens" doesn't put money on songwriters bank accounts. (see the story of the "All About That Bass" songwriter). They keep saying, hold on, it will EVENTUALLY, but we shall see....

PPS Which do you think is gonna generate more money for songwriter and artist: the "New Model", or
this ? :-)   http://m.billboard.com/entry/view/id/148605
   

Right On! Best regards.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Oroz on November 22, 2015, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 22, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Streaming is not a industry based business model: is a response to 40 years of a model of abusive consumption.

The labels made lots of money all these years.
People got tired of abusive prices and other people found a way to make money out of it and build their empires.

Digital revolution, basically.

Respectfully disagree. As a composer myself I can say streaming is screwing the composers, not the labels. So no digital revolution whatsoever. All the contrary. People are not paying for music.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Feelgoodlies on November 22, 2015, 05:50:24 PM
I agree georg_e, I really dislike streaming and I hope they do something about valuing music again.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on November 22, 2015, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 22, 2015, 05:07:52 PM
Streaming is not a industry based business model: is a response to 40 years of a model of abusive consumption.

The labels made lots of money all these years.
People got tired of abusive prices and other people found a way to make money out of it and build their empires.

Digital revolution, basically.
Hi j.fco.......  I'm only just starting to look into this subject myself ....just following my own instincts about it ......seems there's a lot more going on than meets the eye, beyond what we're being told about why streaming is being pushed so hard....
I found this article yesterday, interview with someone who actually knows what's going on....scroll down to where the large print quoted in blue color is about how Universal Music is behind it, but more importantly.....the real reason WHY  they're pushing it :-)
     http://musically.com/2015/05/14/ministry-of-sound-major-labels-streaming/

Also love the paragraph starting with "The music industry's response to piracy was 'Let's give away everything away for free legally'. The movie industry didn't do that and the TV industry didn't do that........the book (publishing) industry didn't do that.............".

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on November 22, 2015, 06:52:50 PM
One last thought on this subject :-)
There was music cassette/8 track piracy in the '80's, and CD piracy in the 90's. Did the music industry say "OK no problem, we'll have "Free Tier" for cassettes? Heck, for all I know, there may have been vinyl record piracy, lol. But at no point was the response like it was to digital piracy. Why??
     I know it's never going back to CDs again-- that's fine! I don't even like them/use them/buy them. I do everything on my phone. So we're in a new era of how people listen to music --that's normal.
      But at some point, EVERY way of listening to music was new: first was 78 rpm, then 45 rpm, then LPs, then cassettes, 8 track, finally CDs. Risk of piracy was there with every one of those formats (maybe less with vinyl). People adapted to each new change......and kept PAYING for music.
       All of a sudden comes digital piracy, and music industry says "We can't fight this...better coax people with free, or they'll stop consuming music except by stealing it".   HA!!!
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on November 23, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Digital piracy in the digital age is completely different then in the analg days. The industry is fine with a small amount of piracy it comes with the territory but when it first happened in the digital age with Napster it was different numbers and a real danger business wise. The solution at the time came by suing and destroying Napster then aligning with Apple for itunes.
Anyways I stand by my comments that we are not going back to paying per song but moving into streaming, mabe your cellphone company will ncoude a music optin just like a voicmail option and that s how we ll get everyone to pay, convenience. Of course the royalties calculations and such will need to be fixed, and it will just like any new format before in history.
The easiest way to understand it is when I look at my 1000+ cd collection, some i have listen to once or twice, some hundereds of times, which are more valuable? For the labels it didnt matter it all brought in the same amount, not in the streaming world. I would dare to say that it could potentially help develop longer term artists (more Prince, less macarena- who can be against that?)
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: georg_e on November 23, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: sonnyblack2000 on November 23, 2015, 02:47:39 PM
Digital piracy in the digital age is completely different then in the analg days. The industry is fine with a small amount of piracy it comes with the territory but when it first happened in the digital age with Napster it was different numbers and a real danger business wise. The solution at the time came by suing and destroying Napster then aligning with Apple for itunes.
Anyways I stand by my comments that we are not going back to paying per song but moving into streaming, mabe your cellphone company will ncoude a music optin just like a voicmail option and that s how we ll get everyone to pay, convenience. Of course the royalties calculations and such will need to be fixed, and it will just like any new format before in history.
The easiest way to understand it is when I look at my 1000+ cd collection, some i have listen to once or twice, some hundereds of times, which are more valuable? For the labels it didnt matter it all brought in the same amount, not in the streaming world. I would dare to say that it could potentially help develop longer term artists (more Prince, less macarena- who can be against that?)
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19860719&id=sjMyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nuUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4621,3944878&hl=en

    Was $1.2 billion/year a "small amount of piracy"?

And here's contemporary figures on piracy:    http://www.go-gulf.com/blog/online-piracy/   Scroll down, and it shows that music is the next to LEAST pirated digitally of all formats (movies, TV, etc).......and yet it's the ONLY major entertainment format that's given away free on a mass scale.

They have all these hypothetical ideas about how they're "going" to make streaming work, but really: how hard could it have been to get it right-- right from the beginning?  This is not like planning a manned landing on Mars :-)

      Meanwhile........👸🏼

        http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=298650
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 24, 2015, 06:29:29 PM
We should start a thread about streaming/piracy issues and left Adele out of this conversation.

She did some good promo on BBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHXjxWaQs9o
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: bugmenot on November 24, 2015, 07:31:13 PM
I'm so sorry there is no photos of Adele in studio.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on November 25, 2015, 06:48:42 PM
Who Is Really Paying for Adele?

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/who-is-really-paying-for-adele?intcid=mod-most-popular


Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Rebecca on December 13, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
I'm a bit late to this, but I'm disappointed with the the Max/Shellback/Adele song. Even though I'm not a fan of Adele I had hoped to still love the song. Maybe it's a grower.

As for Adele not streaming, as Bob Lefsetz says, only Superstars can do this. For me, I don't bother with streaming, I buy the cd's and songs I like.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Polarmachine on December 13, 2015, 02:30:16 PM
I hope for Water Under The Bridge as next single. Greg and Adele got dat magic together :)

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on December 13, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
My fave is River Lea. Didn't like it at first listen but it has such power.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 23, 2016, 04:03:31 AM
The video for the Max Martin+Shellback collaboration is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4BbF7B29w&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: nanofives on May 23, 2016, 04:38:22 AM
At first I thought it was empty, but then I realise that sometimes its nice to get out of the typical storyteller-kind video.
I still love the song and I hope it will top the charts.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: ShockdioN on May 23, 2016, 09:00:24 PM
The video is pure drug o_0
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 15, 2016, 01:38:57 AM
Spring King covers Adele on the BBC Radio 1 Live Lounge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34b6gA0OY44

Love it!
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on July 18, 2016, 10:43:45 PM
Send your.... has now entered the Top 10 in the Billboard charts.

Max adds one more Top 10 song to his enormous list.  😎
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on September 19, 2016, 04:37:43 PM
New peak for "Send my love" on the billboard charts. #8
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: smadaleinad on October 07, 2021, 07:09:13 PM
Article in Vogue about Adele's new album, says collaborators on the album include Max and Shellback!

QuoteA handful of others worked on songs I didn't hear: the Swedish pop wizards Max Martin and Shellback;

https://www.vogue.com/article/adele-cover-november-2021

Also mentions that her and Greg Kurstin did the lead single again, just like the last album. "Easy On Me" comes out next Friday!

Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: bugmenot on October 08, 2021, 04:28:43 PM
QuoteAs with her previous albums, the vocal tracks are original demos because, she explains, demos have a charisma and an urgency that get lost if you rerecord them. "I never redo my vocals. Never. Never ever."
wow
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: nanofives on October 15, 2021, 05:50:56 PM
[spotify]https://open.spotify.com/track/0gplL1WMoJ6iYaPgMCL0gX?si=7448e51745754b5b[/spotify]

Co-written and produced by Greg Kurstin.
It's like Hello but less punchy, Adele's vocals are so forgiving, I could not possibly dislike this body of work, but alongside with the video it's like Deja Vu.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 16, 2021, 07:09:27 PM
It has anthem written all over it. Fantastic ballad
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: turnaround on November 18, 2021, 08:50:03 PM
"Can I Get It"

Composer, Lyricist: Adele Adkins
Background  Vocal, Keyboards, Piano, Programmer, Composer, Lyricist, Producer: Max Martin
Bass, Clapping, Drums, Guitar, Keyboards, Other, Percussion, Programmer, Whistles, Composer, Lyricist, Producer: Shellback
Unknown: Michael Ilbert
Unknown: Sam Holland
Unknown: Lasse Mårtén
Mixing  Engineer: Serban Ghenea
Mixing  Engineer: John Hanes
Assistant  Engineer: Bryce Bordone
Mastering  Engineer: Randy Merrill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yr7fAGnvhk
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 20, 2021, 06:40:08 PM
Very Shellback sounding.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Snipes3000 on November 20, 2021, 08:24:59 PM
Yeah I thought so as well, from the moment i heard teh first 8 seconds.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: bugmenot on November 20, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
It is Christina's Aguilera's song, between Stripped and Back to Basics eras.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Freakazoid on December 26, 2021, 10:37:54 AM
Quote from: bugmenot on November 20, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
It is Christina's Aguilera's song, between Stripped and Back to Basics eras.

I agree.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: B Steady on January 10, 2022, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: bugmenot on November 20, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
It is Christina's Aguilera's song, between Stripped and Back to Basics eras.

Hence Adele's question: Can I get it?
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: Dagge on January 15, 2022, 02:53:33 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on November 20, 2021, 06:40:08 PM
Very Shellback sounding.

Interesting melody, 100% following melodic math rules. If Adele composed it, she probably was learned rules from the Master himself. I think Max main role was to say no until Adele picked the strongest version of a composed melody. I must humbly add, using his help even I would probably compose strong chart-ready melody.
Title: Re: Adele - new album with single by Max Martin
Post by: McCartneyMartin on January 15, 2022, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: Dagge on January 15, 2022, 02:53:33 PM
Interesting melody, 100% following melodic math rules. If Adele composed it, she probably was learned rules from the Master himself. I think Max main role was to say no until Adele picked the strongest version of a composed melody. I must humbly add, using his help even I would probably compose strong chart-ready melody.
I think the problem with it all is in the mixing, you see most modern production focuses more on vocals and percussion and not enough on anything else is heard. You listen to how they did it back in the seventies and eighties it was done so everything would pop out all at once rather than just certain parts. If there are any melodies in sogs nowadays they are buried within the instrumentals.