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Madonna - Rebel Heart (song by Rami)

Started by turnaround, December 20, 2014, 07:27:29 PM

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turnaround

Madonna has a new album available to pre-order on iTunes. Some songs are already available.

Surprise.

Devil Pray
   
Writers: Madonna, Savan Kotecha, Carl Falk, Rami Yacoub, Avicii
Producers: Madonna, Avicii, Blood Diamonds, Dahi, Falk


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Heart_(Madonna_album)



And I liked it..

j.fco.morales

I didn't like any of the pre-order songs.

ANY.

turnaround

#2
Added to the Cheiron playlist.

Do you like it?


Anyway it's cool a Cheiron writer has now a credit for a Madonna song. I have to listen again and again to the songs. They are not that instant that I can already decide if I like them.
And I liked it..

Rebecca

Yeah, it's great to see Rami, Carl Falk and Savan co-writing a Madonna song. Devil Pray is really good, but not amazing.

uberweiss

Devil Pray is being slept on. SOOOOOO good. That drug feeling. Incredible Falk/Yacoub melodies with an interesting lyrical twist that's filled with Madonna's personality. Amazing collab.

j.fco.morales

Guys, do you know her catalogue? She did this 25 years ago.

This may sound rude, but I think it's unbelievable that a woman at her age talks about this kind of stuff just to appeal to an audience it's not hers.
It's pop music, we all know that, but always had an artistic approach behind every project until 2005's Confessions On A Dancefloor and that's what makes her interesting.

Since 2005, everything has been so pointless. His management is a mismanagement: the collaborators, the sound approach, the lyrics.

Someone who knows her career and her artistic development through 30+ years, just can't understand what's happening.

Axel

I fully second you. She lost her individuality some time after Music.

uberweiss

Whatever.

YEAH WE CAN RUN AND WE CAN HIDE BUT WE WON'T FIND THE ANSWERS. <3

melodicmoonlight

Ghosttown is a good song - it would be amazing if the vocal engineer did a better job. that's her biggest weakness lately. not enough attention paid to the vocal production. it's lazily auto tuned. but the instrumental is ace

j.fco.morales

I think the same thing: it's not well mixed, her voice sounds weird... she took singing lessons after Bedtime Stories -you can tell by the way it sounds, much more voice control- and even some change in her tone.

Now, it continues that path but in a weird kind of way.
Could it be the sonic approach that sound engineers and producers apply to the songs to sound "trendy" or "current"?

uberweiss

#10
Really good album! "Hold Tight" is Tedder, and sounds like a much better version of Gwen Stefani's "Baby Don't Lie". "Joan Of Arc" has suuuuuuuuuuuch a classic late 90s pop melody! Wonder who was involved with that one. So good.

turnaround

Someone, I presume Savan himself, edited his wikipedia

He added two songs for Madonna

Addicted
Borrowed Time


https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/rebel-heart-ep/id976319506


Anyone knows more about these tracks?
And I liked it..

Jules

Quote from: turnaround on April 22, 2015, 10:26:49 PM
Someone, I presume Savan himself, edited his wikipedia

He added two songs for Madonna

Addicted
Borrowed Time


https://itunes.apple.com/gb/album/rebel-heart-ep/id976319506


Anyone knows more about these tracks?

Confirmation finally!

Carl Falk told me those two songs were co-written by him, Rami & Savan!

turnaround

Great! Thanks for the info.
I reall begin to like the album. Nice songs with a few fillers.
And I liked it..

Jules

#14
"Borrowed Time" was finally added to ASCAP:

Written by: Rami Yacoub / Carl Falk / Savan Kotecha / Tim "Avicii" Bergling / Ash Pournouri / Michael Tucker / Dacoury "DJ Dahi" Natche / Madonna Ciccone



Also, the EP has credits listed on wiki by now, stating "Addicted" to be:

Written by: Rami Yacoub / Carl Falk / Savan Kotecha / Tim "Avicii" Bergling / Ash Pournouri / Madonna Ciccone
Produced by: Avicii / Carl Falk / Madonna

(and "Borrowed Time" produced by: Avicii / Carl Falk / DJ Dahi / Blood Diamonds / Madonna)

WIKI SOURCE UNKNOWN!

Finally an official credits list:)
http://www.madonna.com/newalbum


Quote"Devil Pray" (Ciccone/Bergling/Pournouri/Falk/Yacoub/Kotecha/Natche/Tucker)
Webo Girl Publishing, Inc. (ASCAP)/EMI Blackwood Music Inc. (BMI) o/b/o EMI Music Publishing Scandinavia AB (STIM)/Sony/ATV Songs LLC (BMI) o/b/o Sony/ATV Scandinavia AB (STIM)/ole Team 2101 Songs (ASCAP)/Rami Productions AB (ASCAP) admin by ole/MXM (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing/Sony/ATV Sonata and Dahi Productions (SESAC)/Michael Tucker Music (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing, These Are Songs of Pulse (ASCAP) and OWSLA Trax (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing
Producers: Madonna, Avicii, DJ Dahi, Michael Diamonds
Musicians: Carl Falk (guitars, keyboards and programming), Avicii (keyboards and programming)
Engineer: Demacio "Demo" Castellon
Mixer: Demacio "Demo" Castellon
Additional recording and mixing: Angie Teo

Quote"Borrowed Time" (Ciccone/Bergling/Pournouri/Falk/Yacoub/Kotecha/Natche/Tucker)
Webo Girl Publishing, Inc. (ASCAP)/EMI Blackwood Music Inc. (BMI) o/b/o EMI Music Publishing Scandinavia AB (STIM)/Sony/ATV Songs LLC (BMI) o/b/o Sony/ATV Music Publishing Scandinavia AB (STIM)/Copyright Control/Copyright Control/MXM (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing/Sony/ATV Sonata and Dahi Productions (SESAC)/Michael Tucker Music (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing, These Are Songs of Pulse (ASCAP) and OWSLA Trax (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing
Producers: Madonna, Avicii, Carl Falk, DJ Dahi, Michael Diamonds
Engineer: Demacio "Demo" Castellon
Mixer: Demacio "Demo" Castellon
Additional mixing: Angie Teo

Quote"Addicted" (Ciccone/Bergling/Pournouri/Falk/Yacoub/Kotecha)
Webo Girl Publishing, Inc. (ASCAP)/EMI Blackwood Music Inc. (BMI) o/b/o EMI Music Publishing Scandinavia AB (STIM)/Sony/ATV Songs LLC (BMI) o/b/o Sony/ATV Music Publishing Scandinavia AB (STIM)/ Copyright Control/Copyright Control/MXM (ASCAP) c/o Kobalt Songs Music Publishing
Producers: Madonna, Avicii, Carl Falk
Engineer: Demacio "Demi" Castellon
Mixer: Demacio "Demi" Castellon