Cheiron Songwriters and Max Martin fan-forum and music discussion board www.swedishsongs.de - All about Swedish songwriters and music

Other music and off-topic => Studios, Sounds, Vocals and Tech-Talk => Topic started by: waveman on September 27, 2017, 04:54:37 AM

Title: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: waveman on September 27, 2017, 04:54:37 AM
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had a good source for official multitracks. I saw this thread and saw that there are some Britney Spears ones out there, but the website cited there seems to be down:

http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=1803.0

Thank you very much in advance :)

P.S. I'm new to the forums - looking forward to being here!
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: svenh on January 03, 2018, 12:57:34 PM
I too would be very interested in this. That would be a great resource for learning!
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 05, 2018, 04:49:24 AM
My first source was a thread on reddit that was taken down.

/SongStems
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: Tano87 on January 05, 2018, 09:10:10 AM
Mine was a Sony backdoor closed around 2011/2012
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: StCroix on January 12, 2018, 12:01:50 PM
Bumping for intense interest
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: Dagge on June 03, 2018, 12:46:46 PM
After listening and studying tons of it, I would say no need to have it. Sounds quite ordinary when listened separately, licks, sounds, singing (except Mariah Carey). It's all in the producer ear, and you cannot copy that
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: stereoBuss on June 28, 2018, 06:48:19 AM
After listening and studying tons of it, I would say no need to have it. Sounds quite ordinary when listened separately, licks, sounds, singing (except Mariah Carey). It's all in the producer ear, and you cannot copy that

I've gone through a few songs (from the aforementioned r/SongStems), and I both agree and disagree. It was pretty helpful for me to see all of the pieces and how they fit together, but usually there isn't anything mind blowing going on (I do remember being blown away by some stems of Into You I found on youtube).

Another interesting thing I noticed is that things like drum samples are frequently less polished and perfect than I had thought they were. It taught me that it's very much how the elements are used than how perfect you can get them to be on their own. It's for that kind of thing that I would love to hear some of the dense arrangements from the cheiron days in separate tracks. I'd guess a lot of it would sound pretty wonky on its own.
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: IVIV on June 28, 2018, 09:28:48 AM
Agree with previous poster. Nothing will ever replace the ear and songwriting/compositional ability.

But from a production perspective I have learnt a great deal from these stems (genuinely my own productions have taken a massive step up).

Main thoughts;

- use of reverbs and distortion to supplement groove (not just the instruments themselves being used for grove)
- layering of instruments, especially not for melodic reasons and not necessarily heard but felt
- learning how perfect every element has to be!
- breaking down stems into frequency ranges can give you good insight into how sounds are chosen when layering to be supplementary rather than competing
- astonished as to just how much time must go into each of these productions
- amazing percussion tracks basically on all songs, a lot of live work

I have an extensive library of stems. DM me for more info.

Alex
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: Tano87 on July 02, 2018, 07:53:23 AM
Any 2000 stems? Answer in private or u prefere
Title: Re: Max Martin Multitracks
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 02, 2018, 08:45:13 PM
Agree with previous poster. Nothing will ever replace the ear and songwriting/compositional ability.

I absolutely agree with this.
The thing is: there's so many songs, same structure and chord progressions... you have to sound different only with sonic delicacy.
And that's the craft of arrangements and music production.