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Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on January 11, 2007, 09:59:23 PM
(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g252/phoenixwillrise3/av.jpg)

hoho... Max Martin & Avril. It will be a amazin team like Max & Kelly Clarkson.I can`t wait !!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on January 11, 2007, 10:02:21 PM
Wow. I think they both are the perfect match!

What an irony, Avril working with Max Martin, but it's fantastic!  :D

I expect some incredible corkers, I can't wait for her next album.
Have both at home, and I think Max and Avril bring Girl-Pop/Rock to another level, as Kelly And Max did when "Breakaway" was released!

 :)
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on January 14, 2007, 12:35:13 AM
it will be a rock/punk - pop/rock album. only two slow songs...

"girlfriend" is the 1st single..
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: gilad on February 09, 2007, 12:40:25 AM
If you want to download the new Avril  Lavigne song -"Girlfriend"

please send by pm only


Enjoy! :lol:

[size=0]edited by turnaround[/size][/b]
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on February 09, 2007, 09:58:30 AM
Hi Gilad, welcome, nice to see you here!

Thanks so much for sharing Avril's Girlfriend. I am listening to it now!! It kinda has Veronicas sound to it. I like it a lot, really looking forward the cd.

Did Max Martin co-write Girlfriend? or just Dr Luke?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on February 09, 2007, 11:04:00 PM
Do we have an official source yet that it's Lukasz??
It's not on ASCAP.

According to wikipedia there are 3 songs on Avril's new album written & produced by Dr. Luke. Zero by Max Martin...

I love "Girlfriend"!!!  :smt035  \:D/
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: gilad on February 10, 2007, 08:01:39 PM
I am so happy that you like that song!
why can't i post the R.a.p.i.d.s.h.a.r.e link??
Is this forbidden?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on February 10, 2007, 09:19:10 PM
Hey.
It should work now again, but please send by PM only. (That we don't get into trouble, please don't post links on here)
Thanks for your understanding.  :wink:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on February 10, 2007, 10:02:29 PM
Hi Gilad, yeah it's true we're not meant to share song files. but I appreciated it anyway.

Jules, I did read somewhere that Dr Luke produced it, but I didn't save the link and I didn't read Max Martin.

The song is going to be released to radio March 5 USA and March 19 International, it says on Avril's myspace blog. Seems like ages away, I bet they start playing it before that. But then Avril's blog re The Record she says February release.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on February 21, 2007, 10:44:20 AM
I'm not sure if there will be any Max Martin songs on Avril Lavigne album.
I just read this article, it mentions Dr Luke but no Max.
I guess we just wait and see

http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=1608
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on February 24, 2007, 01:02:20 PM
According to wikipedia "Girlfriend" was co-written and produced by Lukasz.
And here are the other songs and the songs by Max finally :D

Avril Lavigne "Keep Holding On" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Girlfriend" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Can Do Better" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Wear The Pants" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Hot" - Produced by Dr. Luke
Avril Lavigne "I Will Be" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin
Avril Lavigne "Runaway" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Kara Dioguardi
Avril Lavigne "Alone" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on February 24, 2007, 05:07:22 PM
GREEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank's turnaround for the best news of the day :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on February 25, 2007, 07:23:42 AM
Yay! thanks Turnaround!  I am sooo looking fwd to Avril's album!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on February 25, 2007, 06:58:45 PM
Sounds like an awesome album! :-D

Can't wait to see the official confirming of this!
So far ASCAP doesn't back it up though... :-/ Hope it's true!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on March 13, 2007, 10:39:19 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
According to wikipedia "Girlfriend" was co-written and produced by Lukasz.
And here are the other songs and the songs by Max finally :D

Avril Lavigne "Keep Holding On" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Girlfriend" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Can Do Better" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Wear The Pants" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Hot" - Produced by Dr. Luke
Avril Lavigne "I Will Be" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin
Avril Lavigne "Runaway" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Kara Dioguardi
Avril Lavigne "Alone" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin


great news.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on March 14, 2007, 10:25:01 AM
Awesome! it's great to finally have confirmation.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on March 16, 2007, 03:02:00 AM
Quote from: "turnaround"
Avril Lavigne "I Will Be" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin
Avril Lavigne "Alone" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin


Even though Amazon keeps changing the tracklist, I think it's final now.
And, surprise surprise: BOTH MAX MARTIN songs are NOT gonna be on the album!!!!!  :smt014 :smt013 :smt021

One good news though:
"Alone" is gonna be the B-side of the lead single "Girlfriend" released March 30th!
:smt031 :smt035

And: I just checked ASCAP, "Alone" is now a CONFIRMED Max Martin song! *YAY*
No sign of "I Will Be" though. Either it's not gonna be released or it was a wrong/fake information on wikipedia.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on March 16, 2007, 09:25:59 AM
wtf, this is outrageous and ridculous! what record company executive would decide not to put a Max Martin song on the album, they must be mentally retarded.

huh, at least the song Alone is on the b-side!

Re song I Will Be - who knows? maybe it turn up somewhere? maybe like on Megan McCauley's album. Though it may not be on ASCAP I Will Be could still exist. ASCAP doesn't have the song Girlfriend on it either under Lukasz.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 16, 2007, 06:04:20 PM
Yes, probably!
I imagine the songs are great, but maybe the didn't fit on the album though that's really annoying!!

But hopefully we will hear them on another artists album, what about Kelly Clarkson  :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on March 16, 2007, 11:57:18 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
But hopefully we will hear them on another artists album, what about Kelly Clarkson  :D

Oh come on. We're talking about quality music here.
Not those Idol songs that are recorded 10 times by the all possible participants of every damn Idol season in every damn country of the world in every damn language...  :roll:


Quote from: "rebecca"
wtf, this is outrageous and ridculous! what record company executive would decide not to put a Max Martin song on the album, they must be mentally retarded.

*LOL*!!
Hilarious! Didn't know you could get this offensive towards the poor record label people!  :P
This is by far the most upset I have ever seen you! *lol*!  :lol:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on March 17, 2007, 04:57:12 AM
Yeah, but who else to blame but the record company people? blame Avril? or maybe it's a bad song? (noo) or maybe it just didn't suit Avril.

I'm not really angry, I'm just annoyed and disappointed. It's like we have to wait soo long more for more songs and then it's only 1 song on this album 1 song on that album.
I know Max Martin is not the only songwriter in the world, quality not quantity as they say.

I would love it to end up on Kelly Clarkson's next album - i think she has moved beyond Idol. I also think it's funny that so many of the same songs are recorded by Idols around the world.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 17, 2007, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: "a|wH!L"
Quote from: "turnaround"
But hopefully we will hear them on another artists album, what about Kelly Clarkson  :D

Oh come on. We're talking about quality music here.
Not those Idol songs that are recorded 10 times by the all possible participants of every damn Idol season in every damn country of the world in every damn language...  :roll:

HA!
I think you missed the train :D
"Breakaway" was far away from a standard Idols album and the reason I thought of Kelly was, that on the last album Avril already had songwriter-credits, as a track was given to Kelly that didn't suit Avril's album.

BTW. It was the title track. Absolute quality music.  :wink:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 22, 2007, 10:10:15 AM
Heard a clip of "Alone"
Snippet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1AbKACVb0
It's fantastic. That's finally Cheiron we are talking about  :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 22, 2007, 10:29:21 AM
FALSE ALARM.
German tracklist..

1. Girlfriend 3:36
2. I Can Do Better 3:15
3. Runaway 3:48
4. The Best Damn Thing 3:09
5. When You're Gone 4:00
6. Everything Back But You 3:02
7. Hot 3:23
8. Innocence 3:52
9. I Don't Have To Try 3:17
10. One Of Those Girls 2:55
11. Contagious 2:09
12. Keep Holding On 3:57
13. Girlfriend (German Version) 3:36
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on March 22, 2007, 11:59:02 AM
Wow, that is really the greatest news!
I will make sure I buy that version.
thanks for that info.

I like the song Alone, well, the snippet of it. for some reason i thought it was going to be really slow. looking fwd to the full version.
I'm happy now
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 22, 2007, 01:06:06 PM
I have news according to "I will be", the other Max Martin track
On I-tunes you can PRE-order the album and the tracklist there has 12 songs but actually 13!

And the 13th track is "I will be" but it says [PRE-ORDER ONLY].

So I guess that will be only available for the ones who preorder it on I-tunes.  :?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on March 22, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
There are two tracklist of the album, this is the long one.  

18 TRACKS!  :D

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to call that false alarm!!
The tracklist you posted is a "TBA tracklist", e.g. listed at CD-WOW (http://www3.cd-wow.net/detail_results.php?product_code=1858887), the final tracklist has 12 songs. The 18 songs version is fake and won't be released.

Update me if I'm wrong.

I'm glad about the I-Tunes pre-order thingy though, guess the song will leak somewhere!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 22, 2007, 01:17:31 PM
Yes, stupid Weltbild  :?

But both Max track are going to be released that's perfect.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on March 23, 2007, 10:33:14 PM
ok, great news!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on March 26, 2007, 05:21:47 PM
I`ve heard ALONE, the whole track.

Love it. A Song between Since U Been Gone and Everything Im Not.  8)
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on March 26, 2007, 05:24:27 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
FALSE ALARM.
German tracklist..

1. Girlfriend 3:36
2. I Can Do Better 3:15
3. Runaway 3:48
4. The Best Damn Thing 3:09
5. When You're Gone 4:00
6. Everything Back But You 3:02
7. Hot 3:23
8. Innocence 3:52
9. I Don't Have To Try 3:17
10. One Of Those Girls 2:55
11. Contagious 2:09
12. Keep Holding On 3:57
13. Girlfriend (German Version) 3:36


what a shit tracklist  :(
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 31, 2007, 02:35:30 PM
Full listening of "Alone" on youtube.

 :wink:

http://www.youtube.com
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on March 31, 2007, 05:47:28 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
Full listening of "Alone" on youtube.

 :wink:

http://www.youtube.com




thankyou :D   :D   :D   :D   :D   :D   :D  greeeeaaaaaat
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on March 31, 2007, 05:53:17 PM
Oh and the credits for "Alone" in the booklet are in this order.

Avril Lavigne, Max Martin, Lukas Gottwald

 :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on March 31, 2007, 07:15:54 PM
Hiii Hiii Great Turnaround. i have in my hands in this moment the cd BREAKAWAY by Kelly Clarckson and the order of the songwriter is:

Since U Been Gone:MartinSandberg/Lukasz Gottwald

Behind These Hazel Eyes:Kelly Clarckson/MartinSandberg/Lukasz Gottwald


Hits watch better!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on April 01, 2007, 10:31:25 AM
alone is amazing !! I Love!!!!!!!!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 01, 2007, 12:41:59 PM
ALONE is a big song. I prefer to Girlfriend. MAX IS MAX :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 01, 2007, 01:28:05 PM
I agree! Alone is fantastic, I have listened to it over and over.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: andrea on April 01, 2007, 02:14:21 PM
from the site: '6 October 2006: Niklas from Sweden emailed re some information about Enrique! Enrique has recorded a song called Alive with Max Martin, Rami and Arnthor Birgisson published by Murlyn Music. Thanks! I was beginning to wonder what was going on with Enrique!'

could it be the same song recorded by avril lavigne?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 01, 2007, 06:32:13 PM
Do you maybe confuse "Alive" with "Alone"?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: andrea on April 01, 2007, 07:37:59 PM
yes... :lol:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 01, 2007, 07:50:38 PM
Alone is fantastic, I have listened to it over and over and over and over again :D  Mister Sandberg Thank you very much.

MESSAGE FOR MAX :D  Dear Max if you read this message i want to ask you one thing: Can you write a song for best famous italian singer VASCO ROSSI??? Will be great for our fans that love him from years.  :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 02, 2007, 05:44:27 PM
Artist:Avril Lavigne
Song:Alone
Authors:A.Lavigne/M.Sandberg/L.Gottwald

Uh uh, Uh uh oh
Uh uh, Uh uh oh

Hey man
Tell me what were you thinking?
What the hell were you saying?
Oh come on now
Stop and think about it
Hey now
Maybe you should just listen
Maybe you should stop talking for a second
Shut up
Listen to me

You're so obvious
You're so oblivious
And now you wonder why you're the one alone
So don't apologize
And you don't even realize you screwed it up this time
Now you're the one alone




Uh uh, Uh uh oh
Uh uh, Uh uh oh

Hey bro
I'm just trying to let you know
You really think that you're special
Oh come on now
I've seen so much better
Hey there
Did you actually think that I cared?
Don't know if you want to go there
Oh come on now
Keep on, keep on dreaming

You're so obvious
You're so oblivious
And now you wonder why you're the one alone
So don't apologize
And you don't even realize you screwed it up this time
Now you're the one alone

If you, want to, be my uh uh oh
You know, you can't, play games
And you know what I mean
I'm sorry but you don't get my my uh uh oh
I'm gone, you're still dreaming about me
Over and over and over and over again

You're so obvious
You're so oblivious
And now you wonder why you're the one alone (you're the one alone)
So don't apologize
And you don't even realize you screwed it up this time
Now you're the one alone (alone alone alone)




You're so obvious (obvious)
You're so oblivious (oblivious)
And now you wonder why you're the one alone (you're the one alone)
So don't apologize (apologize)
And you don't even realize you screwed it up this time
Now you're the one alone

Uh uh, Uh uh oh
Uh uh, Uh uh oh
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 02, 2007, 06:12:21 PM
If you want to listen to snippets of the album :D

http://www.7digital.com/stores/productDetail.aspx?shop=34&product=72315&sid=1132703
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 02, 2007, 10:48:09 PM
Alex, thanks for posting the lyrics, I was wondering about some of the words - now I can sing along properly!

I will listen to the snippett of Avril's album tonight, thanks Turnaround
Title: I WILL BE
Post by: a|wH!L on April 07, 2007, 12:46:36 AM
Did someone pre-order the album on iTunes?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 07, 2007, 07:17:25 PM
I hope it will be on the next single as a B-Side..

Will buy the album next week hopefully.
Confirmed tracklist with writers.  :?
There will be the German version of "Girlfriend" as a Bonus-Track here.

1.   "Girlfriend"   A. Lavigne/L. Gottwald   3:36
2.   "I Can Do Better"   A. Lavigne/L. Gottwald   3:15
3.   "Runaway"   A. Lavigne/K. Dioguardi/L. Gottwald   3:48
4.   "The Best Damn Thing"   A. Lavigne/B. Walker   3:09
5.   "When You're Gone"   A. Lavigne/B. Walker   4:00
6.   "Everything Back But You"   A. Lavigne/B. Walker   3:02
7.   "Hot"   A. Lavigne/E. Taubenfeld   3:23
8.   "Innocence"   A. Lavigne/E. Taubenfeld   3:52
9.   "I Don't Have To Try"   A. Lavigne/L. Gottwald   3:17
10.   "One Of Those Girls"   A. Lavigne/E. Taubenfeld   2:55
11.   "Contagious"   A. Lavigne/E. Taubenfeld   2:09
12.   "Keep Holding On"   A. Lavigne/L. Gottwald   4:01
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 07, 2007, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
I hope it will be on the next single as a B-Side..

I was kinda hoping the same.
I'd be really upset if I paid 13 Euros for a crappy 128 kbps iTunes album when the next single would include the song as a b-side.

Plus I'll buy the (CD-)album & all (CD-)single releases anyways, so it'd be a complete waste of money.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 07, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
I am still unsure if I should order the special edition with the DVD or just the basic one.

CDwow says:

The Making Of The Album ''The Best Damn Thing'' (20 Minutes)

It sounds interesting, definitely some studio work, and maybe also with Luke (theoretically there could be Max too) but it's a few Euros more and if it's a total disappointment and just ends up at youtube one day I will regret it.

Decisions.  :roll:

And concerning the bonus track. Definitely waiting for it to be released...
The won't waste the track on a few pre-ordering people only I am sure.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 08, 2007, 08:26:57 AM
If I were you Turnaround I'd buy the one with the bonus DVD, just in case.
Hopefully I'll be able to buy the special edition too.

That is so bad if I Will Be won't be on that itunes version. Let's hope for a B-side.

I'm on the itunes site now, i'm finding it really annoying to find anything. I hate itunes already.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on April 09, 2007, 12:13:40 AM
Quote
3. "Runaway" A. Lavigne/K. Dioguardi/L. Gottwald 3:48


thats the best song @ the album.

very similar with 4ever (veronicas)  :shock:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 10, 2007, 01:55:06 PM
I have heard a lot of the album too now, and CHB I totally agree: Runaway is the best song on it.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 10, 2007, 02:10:39 PM
Sorry guys but for me ALONE is another level. No competition with other tracks of avril new album.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on April 10, 2007, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: "Alex Martin"
Sorry guys but for me ALONE is another level. No competition with other tracks of avril new album.



I agree with you its a big diffrent if you ask me......another level is a the perfect word
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 10, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Hopefully I'll be able to buy the special edition too.

Sure you can.
Why don't you order it from CD-WOW?? They offer free shipping world-wide, plus you don't even have to register as a member.

Here's the link ==> AVRIL+DVD @ CD-WOW-Australia (http://www.cd-wow.biz/detail_results.php?product_code=1905241), it's AU$ 23.95!
I dunno what CDs usually cost over there in Australia, but knowing CD-WOW I bet it's shit cheap for you too?! *lol*
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 10, 2007, 08:27:40 PM
I hope Media Markt will have the Special Edition for a sensible price.
Sometimes they have the new releases.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 12, 2007, 03:37:14 AM
Quote from: "turnaround"
I hope Media Markt will have the Special Edition for a sensible price.

I'm actually wondering about the +DVD-version. Amazon claims it's an "amazon-only-release" (for Germany).
Karstadt/Hertie/MediaMaxx don't even have it listed, which would confirm the amazon-only theory.

By the way, we got the album in stock today!
I searched the inlay for any Mr. Sandberg, hoping he would maybe appear on some Dr. Luke songs as guitar player or something, but there's no MM on the album...
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 12, 2007, 09:02:25 AM
It's a scandal  :cry:
Let's hope we get to hear "I will be" soon.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 12, 2007, 12:32:41 PM
Damn, no MM, thanks for letting us know Jules. Yes, hopefully one day we'll hear it. Have you seen the DVD yet? is it in your store??

Yes, A$23.95 is pretty cheap, normally new mainstream releases are about $22, special editions are few $$ more. a full priced cd is maximum $30 - not bad, or import is about $38. I'll probably just wait until it's in the shops and buy it.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 12, 2007, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Have you seen the DVD yet? is it in your store??

No, it's the standard CD version only. As I said, looks like the +DVD version is only distributed by amazon (in Germany)...
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 17, 2007, 12:49:03 PM
Anyone heard "I will be"?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: andrea on April 17, 2007, 05:19:09 PM
'i will be' it's a beautiful rock ballad... it could be a perfect song for backstreet boys! :wink:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 17, 2007, 07:23:43 PM
I agree with you. This song is gorgeous. Max you are always great!!!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on April 17, 2007, 07:55:24 PM
Quote from: "andrea"
'i will be' it's a beautiful rock ballad... it could be a perfect song for backstreet boys! :wink:


Where do i found it??? must hear it....
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 17, 2007, 08:35:19 PM
You can listen to it at

purepop5.blogspot.com
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on April 17, 2007, 09:45:02 PM
waooo.. The song is fantasticcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc!!!!!!!!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on April 17, 2007, 10:04:39 PM
Quote from: "maxmartin'sfan"
waooo.. The song is fantasticcccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc!!!!!!!!!


love it......max is my hero, pop is music
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on April 17, 2007, 10:06:06 PM
Pop 4ever!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 19, 2007, 01:43:47 PM
Thanks for posting the link Turnaround. The song is great, I hope it ends up on a b-side at least, if not a single.

Has anyone actually bought the itunes album with this song on it? I can't even see it there. or was it just for pre-orders?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: emjay on April 19, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
I agree with Andrea.. I think this song would be great for BSB
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 19, 2007, 01:52:05 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Thanks for posting the link Turnaround. The song is great, I hope it ends up on a b-side at least, if not a single.

Have you ever seen a "not-even-b-side" become a single? :-P
About the b-side. Next single will be "When You're Gone". Since that is a ballad itself, I doubt it will have another ballad as a b-side. But let's see! :-D


Quote from: "Rebecca"
Has anyone actually bought the itunes album with this song on it? I can't even see it there. or was it just for pre-orders?

Yes, it was for pre-orders only.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 19, 2007, 01:56:13 PM
By the way-
Do we actually have OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION that "I Will Be" really is MAX MARTIN??
Cause all I could find it on was wikipedia, and that's not exactly an "official" source, cause anyone can post there. And "Alone" is listed on ASCAP, "I Will Be" is not!

Anyone?!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on April 20, 2007, 12:10:05 AM
I Will Be is awesome  :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 20, 2007, 12:58:27 AM
ABOUT THE BONUS-DVD:

It's really fuckin' hilarous - really worth buying!!
It has lots of Dr. Luke - interviews, studio action, etc.

Avril and him are drunk most of the time. You get to see them recording "Girlfriend", "I Can Do Better", and uhm... any more? Forgot!  :oops:
Also you get to see Avril pepper spraying him, spitting on him & much more. *LOL*!
No Max Martin unfortunately. There's a 5 seconds snippet of Avril recording "Alone", nothing extra ordinary though.

Rest of it is interviews & recording sessions with Butch Walker ("The Best Damn Thing" & "When You're Gone"), Rob Cavallo ("Innocence") and her husband Deryck Whibley ("Contagious") plus Travis Barker of Blink 182 on drums.

All in all I have to say, if you like Avril in general (not only her Max Martin songs) then this one really is a must-have!! I couldn't stop laughing all the time while watching it. Really awesome behind the scenes stuff!! 5 STARS!!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 20, 2007, 01:50:41 PM
Taken from Wikipedia Lukasz gottwald



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Dr. Luke, also known as Doctor Luke, Luke Gottwald, Lukasz Gottwald, (real name Lukasz Sebastian Gottwald) is a musician, songwriter and producer who has written and produced for artists such as Britney Spears, Kelly Clarkson, Lady Sovereign, Kelis, Avril Lavigne, Missy Elliott, P!nk, Mos Def, The Backstreet Boys, Daughtry, The Veronicas, Paris Hilton and Skye Sweetnam. Dr. Luke is also the guitar player in the Saturday Night Live band.


[edit] Selected Discography
Kelly Clarkson "Since U Been Gone" - Co-Written/Co-Produced With Max Martin
Kelly Clarkson "Behind These Hazel Eyes" - Co-Written/Co-Produced With Max Martin
Avril Lavigne "Keep Holding On" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Girlfriend" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Can Do Better" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "I Don't Have to Try" (I Wear the Pants) - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne
Avril Lavigne "Hot" - Produced by Dr. Luke
Avril Lavigne "I Will Be" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin
Avril Lavigne "Runaway" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Kara Dioguardi
Avril Lavigne "Alone" - Produced by Dr. Luke / Co-Written with Avril Lavigne, Max Martin



I WILL BE IS WRITTEN BY MAX
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 20, 2007, 04:13:27 PM
Quote from: "Alex Martin"
Taken from Wikipedia Lukasz gottwald
[...]
I WILL BE IS WRITTEN BY MAX

Did you actually read my whole posting or just the one sentence where it said "do we have official confirmation"??

Quote from: "a|wH!L"
By the way-
Do we actually have OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION that "I Will Be" really is MAX MARTIN??
Cause all I could find it on was wikipedia, and that's not exactly an "official" source, cause anyone can post there. And "Alone" is listed on ASCAP, "I Will Be" is not!

Anyone?!


Now if I went to wikipedia and clicked on "edit" and changed it to "written by George W. Bush / co-written with Osama Bin Laden & Mahatma Ghandi" wouldn't exactly (officially) mean that they wrote it. *lol*

Also, as I stated, "Alone" is listed on ASCAP (which is an official source, and "I Will Be" is not listed on ASCAP. That's why I actually asked if someone knew an official source except for wikipedia.

Get my point?
Oh, and excuse my sarcasm...  :shock:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 20, 2007, 04:46:47 PM
Maybe we will never know.
No CD release, no credits. And there are so many songs not listed on ASCAP/Bmi that have even have been hits..
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 20, 2007, 08:19:04 PM
Hey rainbow really george bush and bin laden wrote a song togheter????
This is a big news :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on April 20, 2007, 10:09:50 PM
Can we listen to the song? ^^ :D
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on April 20, 2007, 10:10:19 PM
Quote from: "a|wH!L"
Quote from: "Alex Martin"
Taken from Wikipedia Lukasz gottwald
[...]
I WILL BE IS WRITTEN BY MAX

Did you actually read my whole posting or just the one sentence where it said "do we have official confirmation"??

Quote from: "a|wH!L"
By the way-
Do we actually have OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION that "I Will Be" really is MAX MARTIN??
Cause all I could find it on was wikipedia, and that's not exactly an "official" source, cause anyone can post there. And "Alone" is listed on ASCAP, "I Will Be" is not!

Anyone?!


Now if I went to wikipedia and clicked on "edit" and changed it to "written by George W. Bush / co-written with Osama Bin Laden & Mahatma Ghandi" wouldn't exactly (officially) mean that they wrote it. *lol*

Also, as I stated, "Alone" is listed on ASCAP (which is an official source, and "I Will Be" is not listed on ASCAP. That's why I actually asked if someone knew an official source except for wikipedia.

Get my point?
Oh, and excuse my sarcasm...  :shock:



you are crazy and funny.....osama and george hm hit me baby one more time
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 21, 2007, 02:08:11 AM
Quote from: "turnaround"
And there are so many songs not listed on ASCAP/Bmi that have even have been hits..

Makes sence - theoretically. But Max is registered to ASCAP.
I dunno how ASCAP works. Maybe if they release a track for a European-only artist the songs don't get listed there (cause ASCAP is the "American  Society of... bla bla bla").

But if he writes 2 songs for one artist, for the same release, why would they list one song and not the other? That just doesn't make sense. So I'm still waiting for an official confirmation...
"Maybe we will never know" ain't enough for me!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 21, 2007, 11:45:34 AM
But Ascap never has been complete.

For example, "Innocence" an album track isn't listed under Avril Lavigne. And this doesn't mean she hasn't wrote it, obviously she has.

Either "I will be" gets released on a CD and someone can look up the credits, or someone contacts someone via email, or it will be a mistery.

And the person who wrote the credits to "Alone" at wikipedia did also write the "I will be" credits. And why should he be one time completely right, and with the other song completely   wrong?
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 21, 2007, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: "a|wH!L"
ABOUT THE BONUS-DVD:

It's really fuckin' hilarous - really worth buying!!
It has lots of Dr. Luke - interviews, studio action, etc.

Avril and him are drunk most of the time. You get to see them recording "Girlfriend", "I Can Do Better", and uhm... any more? Forgot!  :oops:
Also you get to see Avril pepper spraying him, spitting on him & much more. *LOL*!
No Max Martin unfortunately. There's a 5 seconds snippet of Avril recording "Alone", nothing extra ordinary though.

Rest of it is interviews & recording sessions with Butch Walker ("The Best Damn Thing" & "When You're Gone"), Rob Cavallo ("Innocence") and her husband Deryck Whibley ("Contagious") plus Travis Barker of Blink 182 on drums.

All in all I have to say, if you like Avril in general (not only her Max Martin songs) then this one really is a must-have!! I couldn't stop laughing all the time while watching it. Really awesome behind the scenes stuff!! 5 STARS!!


The dvd sounds good Jules. I have ordered a copy from CD-WOW as you suggested, I can't wait to see it.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 21, 2007, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
But Ascap never has been complete.

For example, "Innocence" an album track isn't listed under Avril Lavigne. And this doesn't mean she hasn't wrote it, obviously she has.

Either "I will be" gets released on a CD and someone can look up the credits, or someone contacts someone via email, or it will be a mistery.

And the person who wrote the credits to "Alone" at wikipedia did also write the "I will be" credits. And why should he be one time completely right, and with the other song completely   wrong?


Yes, it's true ASCAP is sometimes not complete, but it is very strange that they will have Alone but not I Will Be. The mystery continues!
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 21, 2007, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: "turnaround"
And the person who wrote the credits to "Alone" at wikipedia did also write the "I will be" credits. And why should he be one time completely right, and with the other song completely   wrong?

So what you're saying is, you don't have official proof either...  :roll:
Thanks anyway.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: K_Kulture on April 23, 2007, 12:49:31 AM
I guess if the song is really bad it won't be max martin. That's one way to kinda know.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: a|wH!L on April 23, 2007, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
The dvd sounds good Jules. I have ordered a copy from CD-WOW as you suggested, I can't wait to see it.

I love it!! Let me know what you think about it once you got it!  :wink:



Quote from: "K_Kulture"
I guess if the song is really bad it won't be max martin. That's one way to kinda know.

If you think about it like that almost the entire album could be Max Martin.

Still noone found official confirmation?  :cry:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: K_Kulture on April 26, 2007, 01:48:11 AM
But i'm not a big avril fan so if a song stood out and rumour was max was working on her album I would get the hunch it was him. The problem is you can have Max the songwriter or Max the business man and I would always prefer the first. On I will be I have to say he's Max the business man, commercailly it will be (no pun intended) a strong song but as a songwriter he's holding back. Against the usual songs it's better but that goes without saying with any max martin song.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on April 26, 2007, 01:28:42 PM
I agree K Kulture. I Will Be is good, but it's not the best Max Martin song (if it is a Max Martin song), I like it, but it's not unbelievable.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on April 26, 2007, 03:58:01 PM
Welcome to the #1 at the Billboard Charts, Avril and Luke!

:o

Album and single.
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 26, 2007, 10:24:44 PM
....and pink is at number 9 with U and Your Hand!!!!!

Go MAX!!!!! Go LUKE!!!!!!! :twisted:
Title: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: CHB on May 02, 2007, 12:03:18 AM
and the veronicas - 4ever missed the top 100. only #103  :x  :(
Title: 'i will be' and 'alone'
Post by: jezusmarie on July 20, 2007, 01:12:34 AM
both these songs are clearly written by max, they both have a certain perfect melody and composition that is missing from the songs actually included on her album, it seems tragic that these songs weren't included or released as singles!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on October 22, 2007, 01:43:04 PM
Hi, Julian emailed me with the news that Avril's album:
"The Best Damn Thing" will be released in Germany as a Limited Edition incl.
DVD + bonus tracks!
 
Release date: Nov. 9th
Tracklist:
 
Disc 1 (CD)
01. Girlfriend
02. I Can Do Better
03. Runaway
04. The Best Damn Thing
05. When You're Gone
06. Everything Back But You
07. Hot
08. Innocence
09. I Don't Have To Try
10. One Of Those Girls
11. Contagious
12. Keep Holding On
13. ALONE*
14. I WILL BE*
15. I Can Do Better (Acoustic Version)*
16. Girlfriend (The Submarines' Time Warp Remix)*
17. Girlfriend (Dr. Luke Mix feat. Lil' Mama)*
* = BONUS TRACKS
 
Disc 2 (DVD)
01. Everything Back But You (Live - Orange Lounge Performance)
02. Girlfriend (Live - Orange Lounge Performance)
03. Hot (Live - Orange Lounge Performance)
04. When You're Gone (Live - Orange Lounge Performance)
05. Girlfriend (Music video)
06. When You're Gone (Music video)
07. Hot (Music video)
08. Girlfriend (Dr. Luke Mix feat. Lil' Mama) (Music video)

http://www.amazon.de/Best-Damn-Thing-Ltd-ed/dp/tracks/B000WZ8RGC/ref=dp_trac

So, we will finally be able to see who wrote I Will Be!

Thanks Jules!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on October 22, 2007, 02:24:30 PM
Oh finally. Will be interesting, thanks!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Markus1981 on October 22, 2007, 10:23:29 PM
Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see who wrote I Will Be!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on November 09, 2007, 04:11:08 PM
You were the one who didn't believe wikipedia back then ;)

Great for Avril, Lukasz and Max to be on Leona's album! 

Thanks for looking it up!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on November 09, 2007, 05:08:41 PM
But speaking of wasted songs how on earth could they not put "Alone" and "I will be" on the album?
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on November 09, 2007, 08:29:16 PM
But luckily most of the time true.  8)
But anyways. Great it was true.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: Rebecca on November 09, 2007, 10:29:26 PM
Thanks Jules for the confirmation!

Where did you get that info though? ASCAP? or do you have the cd?
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: ahmed on November 10, 2007, 04:07:50 AM
post the link to the song
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne / new Album /songs by max
Post by: turnaround on November 10, 2007, 10:57:55 AM
By Avril?

It's here on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv35oLyKkP8

Btw there are many people covering the song already, people seem to love it.