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Title: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: gm33 on November 18, 2013, 10:21:08 PM
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Swift hopes to collaborate with new songwriters and producers. But she planned to begin, she said, by heading back into the studio with Max Martin and Shellback. “I want to go in with Max and Johan first, just to figure out what the bone structure of this record is going to be.

I love how she calls him Johan.
http://www.vulture.com/2013/11/taylor-swift-reigning-queen-of-pop.html

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Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: turnaround on November 18, 2013, 10:49:17 PM
Very good news. I would happily more songs by them, they may be even more “country“ for my liking.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: Raul_esp on November 18, 2013, 11:54:40 PM
Great News!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: J_A24 on November 19, 2013, 04:23:49 AM
Good.
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Post by: nznexus on November 19, 2013, 10:18:51 AM
Jesus. this is like a dream coming true for me.

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Post by: Rebecca on November 19, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
Wonderful news!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 19, 2013, 04:48:43 PM
Max is the melody man, Shellback is the machine man and Taylor is the lyricist+melodic girl.

Dream team.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 19, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
yeah dream team. i am so happy she will be working with max martin. this means we will hear great songs in the future.

also.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 20, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Taylor Swift is the 8th World's Highest-Paid Musician of 2013!

According to Forbes, Taylor Swift is among the World's Highest-Paid Musicians of this year. She's at the 8th position.

No. 8: Taylor Swift ($55 million)
Swift released her fourth studio album, Red, in October 2012 and sold 1.2 million copies in week one. The album's first single, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," became her first to top Billboard's Hot 100 chart. She parlayed that success into endorsement deals with Diet Coke, Sony and Covergirl, not to mention big bucks on the road.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: Feelgoodlies on November 21, 2013, 12:53:42 AM
How can she not. The man has given her two of the biggest hits in her entire career, he actually put her on the map in Europe, I mean come on you know you're "pop" Taylor not "country", so knock the I don't know the "bone structure" bull gurl and let Max do his job!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: georg_e on November 21, 2013, 02:22:26 AM
How can she not. The man has given her two of the biggest hits in her entire career, he actually put her on the map in Europe, I mean come on you know you're "pop" Taylor not "country", so knock the I don't know the "bone structure" bull gurl and let Max do his job!
      :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: Voodoo on November 21, 2013, 02:23:29 AM
Seriously.... girls kinda putin' on a show. Let the boys work. The best part of the whole article is this, located in the comments:

"As a Nashville songwriter I can assure you that when you're "co-writing" with Max Martin and Johan Schuster, that means you're getting them coffee and saying you like this word over that word."

HAHAH! So awesome!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: georg_e on November 21, 2013, 02:27:25 AM
Seriously.... girls kinda putin' on a show. Let the boys work. The best part of the whole article is this, located in the comments:

"As a Nashville songwriter I can assure you that when you're "co-writing" with Max Martin and Johan Schuster, that means you're getting them coffee and saying you like this word over that word."

HAHAH! So awesome!
    omg!!  :-)   Haven't liked her since the CMA Awards show where they showed her in audience pretending she didn't really get the joke when Carrie Underwood did this hilarious satire skit about Obamacare disaster.......
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 21, 2013, 01:06:45 PM
too long article didnt read.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 21, 2013, 08:44:53 PM
The man has given her two of the biggest hits in her entire career, he actually put her on the map in Europe,

No, it's far from it. I like tay
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: gm33 on November 26, 2013, 02:17:00 AM
nznexus, have you ever seen her live? P.S. Your avatar is awesome. I can't wait for Dec. 10!

It seems like everyone who goes to work with Max and writes with him, leaves and becomes a better songwriter as well. Since she's already one of the best, I'm super excited for this new album. Though, I do also love her "country" stuff so I really hope she still works with Chapman...
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Post by: j.fco.morales on November 26, 2013, 03:26:09 AM
nznexus, have you ever seen her live? P.S. Your avatar is awesome. I can't wait for Dec. 10!

It seems like everyone who goes to work with Max and writes with him, leaves and becomes a better songwriter as well. Since she's already one of the best, I'm super excited for this new album. Though, I do also love her "country" stuff so I really hope she still works with Chapman...

She surely will work with Nathan Champan again, he has a big part in building her career.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 26, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
nznexus, have you ever seen her live? P.S. Your avatar is awesome. I can't wait for Dec. 10!

It seems like everyone who goes to work with Max and writes with him, leaves and becomes a better songwriter as well. Since she's already one of the best, I'm super excited for this new album. Though, I do also love her "country" stuff so I really hope she still works with Chapman...

no never seen her live but probably will do so ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on November 27, 2013, 08:51:21 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/taylor-swift-teases-new-album-backstage-at-american-music-awards-20131125

I'm so obsessed with where it is right now because I think, for me, the goal is that we start coming upon a sound that's different from everything that we've done before, an identity to a new record
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: ShockdioN on December 03, 2013, 08:07:01 PM
Johan is my name !! :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: turnaround on December 03, 2013, 08:30:09 PM
She comes to Germany for one concert - I think I must save some money to see her. All I've heard of her concerts was amazing.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on December 04, 2013, 06:46:09 PM
have you seen kesha. i have... and now its time for me to see tay tay
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: J_A24 on December 10, 2013, 09:45:36 PM
I want an uptempo song from her
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on December 20, 2013, 04:05:09 PM
any updates on this? do someone know
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: gm33 on February 05, 2014, 02:37:31 AM
From March 2014 Glamor

On Red I did three songs with Max Martin and Shellback—“We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together”, “I Knew You Were Trouble,” and “22.” [All three made Billboard’s Hot 100 top 20.] I think we’ll be doing a lot more than three songs together on the next album. [Laughs]

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

<--- This Swiftie is VERY happy
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Post by: uberweiss on February 05, 2014, 02:43:04 AM
The three best songwriters in the world. Good news indeed!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: B Steady on February 05, 2014, 02:49:14 AM
The three best songwriters in the world. Good news indeed!

Max, Martin & Shellback?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: gm33 on February 05, 2014, 03:04:01 AM
I know I'm a HUGE Max Martin fan, and this makes me VERY happy to hear, but I hope she keeps at least some songs produced by Chapman on her next album. Taylor is an incredibly talented songwriter and her non-Max music is extremely emotional. Songs like Enchanted, All Too Well, Begin Again are phenomenal, even if they aren't mega pop hits. I love the two of them dearly but I wouldn't want to see an entire Max/Taylor album.

My fellow swiftie, nznexus, what do you think?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 05, 2014, 10:25:02 AM
 she needs to work more with other producers like chapman from nashville. but i wouldnt mind if she made an entire album with max martin

i love taylor swfit so much!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: Raul_esp on February 05, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Great News!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 05, 2014, 03:10:00 PM
From March 2014 Glamor

On Red I did three songs with Max Martin and Shellback—“We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together”, “I Knew You Were Trouble,” and “22.” [All three made Billboard’s Hot 100 top 20.] I think we’ll be doing a lot more than three songs together on the next album. [Laughs]

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

<--- This Swiftie is VERY happy

im super excited :-*
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: turnaround on February 05, 2014, 03:13:24 PM
PERFECT!!
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Post by: ShockdioN on February 05, 2014, 07:02:26 PM
No, it's far from it. I like tay

yeah, her country music was never big or even played in Europe. Since her collabo with Max/Shellback, her songs has been played a lot ! Just like Selena starting working with Stargate and Miley working with Mike Made it?
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Post by: nznexus on February 05, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
i was about to see her live at the 02 arena in london, when i got sick so i had to cancel everything..  :'(
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: uberweiss on February 06, 2014, 04:01:08 AM
Max, Martin & Shellback?

Nope. Max Martin, Shellback and the girl who wrote "Holy Ground", "Enchanted", "Begin Again", "Fifteen", "Love Story", etc etc etc on her own!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 06, 2014, 05:11:24 PM
taylor swift explains how she wrote 22 and why she wrote that song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGSe3PDEi7w
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 08, 2014, 05:53:34 AM
Nope. Max Martin, Shellback and the girl who wrote "Holy Ground", "Enchanted", "Begin Again", "Fifteen", "Love Story", etc etc etc on her own!

Liz Rose, amazing songwriter.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: uberweiss on February 08, 2014, 06:53:54 AM
Liz Rose, amazing songwriter.

She wasn't involved in the making of any of these songs, but yes praise the songwriting talents on display in those songs.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 08, 2014, 05:33:57 PM
She wasn't involved in the making of any of these songs, but yes praise the songwriting talents on display in those songs.

I'm pretty sure this will sound like I'm a smartass, but all the songs you mentioned were written by herself, no cowriting credits.
Taylor doesn't work with too many co-writers, with exceptión of guest features and producers: the only habitual cowriter is Liz Rose.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: max_martin_fan on February 09, 2014, 07:01:02 AM
Seriously.... girls kinda putin' on a show. Let the boys work. The best part of the whole article is this, located in the comments:

"As a Nashville songwriter I can assure you that when you're "co-writing" with Max Martin and Johan Schuster, that means you're getting them coffee and saying you like this word over that word."

HAHAH! So awesome!

that quote is gold. im saving it
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: uberweiss on February 10, 2014, 06:26:06 AM
I'm pretty sure this will sound like I'm a smartass, but all the songs you mentioned were written by herself, no cowriting credits.
Taylor doesn't work with too many co-writers, with exceptión of guest features and producers: the only habitual cowriter is Liz Rose.

Huh? I'm saying that Taylor Swift wrote those songs I mentioned by herself.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 10, 2014, 05:51:31 PM
Huh? I'm saying that Taylor Swift wrote those songs I mentioned by herself.

You're right! Excuse me :)

Who do you guys think Taylor should work with?
I was surprised on Red about the Gary Lightbody collabos and the song produced by Jeff Bhasker.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 10, 2014, 07:44:47 PM

Who do you guys think Taylor should work with?


redone 8)

also she should keep doing her thing. getting more famous. but that is thanks to max martin she went famous after IKYWT
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: gm33 on February 11, 2014, 01:30:13 AM
I really liked her and Dr. Luke with Both of Us. I think that song is very underrated.

So if you don't recall, Dr. Luke and BMR are now partners, so we may see Dr. Luke on her next album.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 11, 2014, 04:11:17 PM
her latest song was sweeter then fiction... and it was not produced by dr luke or max martin.
i wonder how her new album will be like. i cant wait
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Post by: nznexus on February 11, 2014, 04:19:14 PM
I really liked her and Dr. Luke with Both of Us. I think that song is very underrated.

So if you don't recall, Dr. Luke and BMR are now partners, so we may see Dr. Luke on her next album.

i liked that song too.

have you heard the remixes of this song?
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Post by: Jules on February 11, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
I really liked her and Dr. Luke with Both of Us. I think that song is very underrated.

That song is by B.o.B though.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/B.o.B_-_Both_Of_Us.jpg)
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Post by: B Steady on February 11, 2014, 05:14:57 PM
the song is by Both Of Them :D

some say Taylor & Dr. Luke, the others say Cirkut & B.o.B lol
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Post by: Jules on February 11, 2014, 08:40:40 PM
On which Taylor Swift album was it released then? Oh that's right, on none.  :P
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Post by: nznexus on February 12, 2014, 05:36:06 PM
taylor posted this .maybe it has something to do with the upcoming album? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdiA4HD_BOA&feature=youtu.be

i dont know what it iz.
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Post by: nznexus on February 15, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
it does not get better then this. my life is complete now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgipdVZCcAAcWM3.jpg:large)

what are they eating?  :-*
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Post by: gm33 on February 15, 2014, 09:37:08 PM
my life is complete as well. HOLY CRAP. AMAZING. GAAAAAAAA
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Post by: turnaround on February 15, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
Cupcakes!!! Super amazing picture! So rare! Dream team.
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Post by: B Steady on February 15, 2014, 10:24:53 PM
GENIUS 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

goddamn, Max is simply the hottest guy ever :-* alongside Cristiano Ronaldo
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Post by: Rebecca on February 15, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
i love that picture! fantastic. great to see the three of them together.
what else are they eating? apart from the cupcakes?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 16, 2014, 01:01:44 AM
Taylor was in a studio yesterday probably recording new music for album 5!!

this collaboration with max martin will make more amazing music! yes
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Post by: bugmenot on February 16, 2014, 07:09:24 AM
Who's Dating Whom?
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Post by: ShockdioN on February 16, 2014, 10:13:37 AM
it does not get better then this. my life is complete now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgipdVZCcAAcWM3.jpg:large)

what are they eating?  :-*


get that smash !!!
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Post by: nznexus on February 16, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
i wnoder when the album will be out. maybe its too early to say it

btw does max martin live in the US?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: turnaround on February 16, 2014, 12:22:31 PM
This might be one of my favourite pictures of Max and Shellback ever. It's even kinda private. Though they were writing new hits.

I wonder if they feel any pressure to write something amazing, or it just happens every time and they can't even help it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: B Steady on February 16, 2014, 12:26:14 PM
This might be one of my favourite pictures of Max and Shellback ever. It's even kinda private. Though they were writing new hits.

I wonder if they feel any pressure to write something amazing, or it just happens every time and they can't even help it.

If you make hits for 20 years you just got it in your blood. He can't help it!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 16, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
Taylor Swift ‏@taylorswift13  27h
It was a studio Valentines Day with Max and Johan!

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Post by: Raul_esp on February 17, 2014, 02:00:09 PM
it does not get better then this. my life is complete now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgipdVZCcAAcWM3.jpg:large)

what are they eating?  :-*

Wow , Amaaazing pick , I hope it means New Max music for Taylor , I Love the Max Jumper , Genius!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on February 20, 2014, 07:48:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n6zjcS8PEc new album details
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Post by: Axel on February 20, 2014, 10:21:37 AM
awesome photo, thanks nexus! Gave me a good laugh. Max' sweater is awesomeness in itself. :)
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Post by: nznexus on February 21, 2014, 12:22:39 AM
awesome photo, thanks nexus! Gave me a good laugh. Max' sweater is awesomeness in itself. :)

yes its funny  :)
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Post by: nznexus on February 23, 2014, 06:59:37 PM
the fifth album on october
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on April 18, 2014, 08:02:20 PM
So there's been a lot of speculation about Taylor's next album.

1. There's a theory that roses will have something to do with the album with all of the pictures that Taylor has put on Instagram. After Red came out we realized she was giving us hints all along ;)

2. There's a report that it could come out in October (someone reported that Scott said that, but there has been no confirmation.)

3. Just recently, Brian Mansfield tweeted, "Overheard today, from someone who has listened to new @taylorswift13 music: 'It's like the other albums were practice for this one' "

This is all so exciting!!!! If all of her other albums have been "practice" I'm not sure I'm emotionally ready for album five haha

What do you guys think!?
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Post by: B Steady on April 18, 2014, 08:17:12 PM
I think this is so not exciting
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on April 18, 2014, 08:38:10 PM
I think this is so not exciting

I am so excited for album 5. I have issuses 
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: gm33 on June 12, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
Recent Rolling Stone interview with Scott Borchetta:

"But he did urge her to collaborate with Max Martin on her last album. Martin worked "on most of" her next one, which means it could be her poppiest work to date. "Taylor fans are going to love it," Borchetta says. "Will country stations play a complete pop song just because it's her? No. But when she comes to town, her friends at country radio will come and see her".

Looks like Max worked on "most" of the Taylor album. I'm predicting 6-7-8 songs on the album.


Scan:
http://37.media.tumblr.com/47d1626e2c2da31ab4c0eb52aa9e3e1e/tumblr_n6zcq7BTiw1qfoj4do1_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/3ae77ac207ef89f24ee95321213e69cd/tumblr_n6zcq7BTiw1qfoj4do2_1280.jpg
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Post by: nznexus on June 12, 2014, 05:23:11 PM
HELL YEAH
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Post by: turnaround on June 13, 2014, 12:50:05 PM
My body is ready!
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Post by: J_A24 on June 16, 2014, 06:39:20 AM
I just hope the songs are not annoying.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on June 16, 2014, 05:26:19 PM
I just hope the songs are not annoying.

If you want it, you will get it
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Post by: j.fco.morales on June 16, 2014, 07:35:43 PM
Actually, I think they're gonna write and topline... it's not a good idea to give up on her country fan base.
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Post by: Raul_esp on June 17, 2014, 02:03:40 AM
I can't wait for these new Max songs!  :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: nznexus on June 22, 2014, 08:09:35 PM
 think it's hard to predict if the next album will be country or pop.

Ed Sheeran told MTV that Taylor wrote all of the album herself.

Also,Taylor said in her speech at the 2013 AMAs:

"I wanna thank country radio,and also pop radio because the fact that those different genres of music played songs off of my album,makes me not have to think about genre when I'm writing songs,it just allows me to think about writing songs."
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Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
Taylor Swift Shares Optimistic View of the Music Industry In Wall Street Journal Op-Ed

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6150350/taylor-swift-shares-optimistic-view-of-the-music-industry-in-wall-journal-op-ed
Here's the complete article: http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-taylor-swift-the-future-of-music-is-a-love-story-1404763219

A couple of interesting points about the industry. It's not a must, but it's worth reading.
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Post by: J_A24 on July 10, 2014, 05:38:46 PM
Taylor Swift Shares Optimistic View of the Music Industry In Wall Street Journal Op-Ed

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6150350/taylor-swift-shares-optimistic-view-of-the-music-industry-in-wall-journal-op-ed
Here's the complete article: http://online.wsj.com/articles/for-taylor-swift-the-future-of-music-is-a-love-story-1404763219

A couple of interesting points about the industry. It's not a must, but it's worth reading.

Interesting article.

The lack of exclusivity that mainstream music has nowadays truly hinders the business in my opinion. I can listen to my favourite current song 20 times per day and get sick of it in a week or less.

Back in the day, I'd be excited when my favourite song played on TV or in the radio, because I didn't get to choose when I'd listen to it, unless of course I bought a physical copy of the record.

The experience of listening to a record has dramatically changed.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 10, 2014, 08:19:33 PM
That's why the alternative side of things is way more interesting nowadays.
Title: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on August 18, 2014, 11:45:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM

Immediate earworm.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 18, 2014, 11:46:13 PM
I was about to post it!

LOVE IT.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 18, 2014, 11:54:17 PM
Aww, this is cute, clever and fresh :D

Max, hopefully this will be your 18th billboard #1.

But where are the guitars? This is so different to the other Taylor songs. It's like she left country fully behind now.

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 18, 2014, 11:55:02 PM
In the livechat she said the album is COMPLETELY POP.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 18, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
AMAZING

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/ncxvk9.jpg)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 12:02:28 AM
OMFG.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on August 19, 2014, 12:04:20 AM
Hmm no, sorry Max but this is not good!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 12:06:29 AM
Kinda a Happy rip off. Really love the song and the video but I can't believe that they've copied Pharrell that much!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2014, 12:15:27 AM
Imogen Heap =O

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i7NS8oL8yU

- The album includes 2 bonus tracks with the first recordings in her phone from the songs that ended up being in the album
- She will be giving away 1000 tickets and 500 meet & greets on the next tour
- He did the video for Shake It Off with Mark Romanek -he did Madonna's Bedtime Story, Michael & Janet Jackson's Scream, etc-.

@Benny: to me, sounds more like B52's. Pharrell is a copycat actually.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 12:25:10 AM
Fuck, this song is so BRILLIANT

I love it so much already. Especially the verses!!! Taylor's voice sounds fabulous!!'
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 19, 2014, 12:41:31 AM
I'm soo excited for this album.
A very good start with Shake it off!
I really like the production and the melodies.

the drums sounds awesome. Organic!

EDIT: and daaaaamn that tracklist is looking good! it's only the writers though I assume, so I don't know but I guess shellback is also producing track 5. Who is  ALi Payami?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 01:10:15 AM
Must be another new guy Max is working with. He's credited on "Love Me Harder" by Ariana Grande.

I love this song SOOOOO MUCH. Max/Shellback/Swift is the dream team.
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Post by: J_A24 on August 19, 2014, 01:18:04 AM
It's infectious. It's definitely not classic Max/Shellback melodic brilliance, but the whole package is so full of personality, it's irresistible.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Rex on August 19, 2014, 02:22:13 AM
yayayayayayayayayayayayaaaaaaaaaa love this!!!!!! and the "happy" copy is not that obvious, i've been trying to figure out how they can make plagiarism so subtle. The album list makes me even more euforic yaya  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Rex on August 19, 2014, 02:35:35 AM
I have just realised that the verses in you were trouble are very close to those in shake it off  :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 02:50:25 AM
Deluxe edition has 2 further Max/Shellback songs!

(http://i.imgur.com/OWLVHjX.png)
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Post by: Eddie Krommer on August 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Love it!!!

It's the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-yoorI7lo for this generation.

With so many credits on her album maybe Max is executive producing it.
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Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 03:37:44 AM
BEHIND THE SCENES VIDEO WITH MAX AND SHELLBACK I AM DYING

http://jencita.tumblr.com/post/95147088372/lq-behind-the-scenes-of-shake-it-off

Hopefully HQ version soon.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2014, 04:02:04 AM
Love it!!!

It's the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq-yoorI7lo for this generation.

With so many credits on her album maybe Max is executive producing it.

I agree! Check this out, in Chile we had this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64wdD5k4V9I
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Post by: nznexus on August 19, 2014, 04:31:08 AM
YEEAH BOY. THIS IS A LARGE DAY FOR ALL OF US AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY - even for dr.luke

taylor swift is coming back this october with a new album with 13 songs in it and u can already pre order on taylorswift.com its been 2 years this was produced by max martin and shellback holy shit

 also i seen her live stream today so its world exclusive premiere. and.... yeah a great day today for all of us

buy the album and support taylor!

i just want to let this out - MAX MARTIN IS KING..



Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 19, 2014, 05:17:58 AM
it's a cute! nothing amazing or too melodic. one of those infectious catchy songs you can dance to… and she said it in the live stream and it's true: they wanted to create a sound both Taylor and Max hadn't done before. strong live-sounding dreams, the horns, the layered reversed vocals. the vocal production is especially more "free" - less glossy and perfectly Melodyned. sounds nothing like any other Max/Shellback productions. almost reminds me a bit of a Sara Bareilles production.

can definitely catch that late 80s influence she mentioned.

the chant during the bridge reminds me so much of Avril, which makes me think this kinda music would sound good with Avril's voice over it… she's gotta get back with Max.
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Post by: J_A24 on August 19, 2014, 05:42:27 AM
YEEAH BOY. THIS IS A LARGE DAY FOR ALL OF US AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY - even for dr.luke

taylor swift is coming back this october with a new album with 13 songs in it and u can already pre order on taylorswift.com its been 2 years this was produced by max martin and shellback holy shit

 also i seen her live stream today so its world exclusive premiere. and.... yeah a great day today for all of us

buy the album and support taylor!

i just want to let this out - MAX MARTIN IS KING..

This can't be...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: georg_e on August 19, 2014, 06:42:06 AM

   

Can't add anything to this except that the talking part is really kinda sickening........http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/08/18/taylor-swift-sells-out-gives-up-releases-generic-jingle-single-during-live-stream
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 19, 2014, 07:12:11 AM
YEEAH BOY. THIS IS A LARGE DAY FOR ALL OF US AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY - even for dr.luke

taylor swift is coming back this october with a new album with 13 songs in it and u can already pre order on taylorswift.com its been 2 years this was produced by max martin and shellback holy shit

 also i seen her live stream today so its world exclusive premiere. and.... yeah a great day today for all of us

buy the album and support taylor!

i just want to let this out - MAX MARTIN IS KING..

So nznexus sneaked his way back in! :-X
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 19, 2014, 07:54:24 AM
Deluxe edition has 2 further Max/Shellback songs!

(http://i.imgur.com/OWLVHjX.png)
This must be a new record?
Most Max tracks on one album!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 19, 2014, 07:58:27 AM
Wiki even states 19 tracks on the deluxe edition, with #19 also being Max/Shellback, which makes it a total of 10 Max songs.


This must be a new record?
Most Max tracks on one album!

Nope, Carolia Liar's debut had 12 Max tracks! ;)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 19, 2014, 08:20:22 AM

With so many credits on her album maybe Max is executive producing it.
According to billboard.com it's Taylor and Max. :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: saethor on August 19, 2014, 09:04:55 AM
Behind the scenes better quality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmT8IT2E_f8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmT8IT2E_f8)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 19, 2014, 10:11:18 AM
wihooooooooo
First in the studio video with shellback!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 19, 2014, 10:57:58 AM
Quote
There’s going to be a ‘deluxe’ version with three bonus songs which are just versions of three songs on the album but in demo form and recorded on a dictaphone or something.

Source: http://www.popjustice.com/thenews/taylor-swift-announced-some-things-about-her-new-album-last-night/130015/#ixzz3ApJQy76A


Btw - whose studio is this? I love to see Max and Shellback  8) 8)
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Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 11:20:15 AM
Seeing Max singing and dancing makes my life feeling much more complete now
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Post by: turnaround on August 19, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
YEEAH BOY. THIS IS A LARGE DAY FOR ALL OF US AND THE MUSIC INDUSTRY - even for dr.luke
Ok, you are back. Feel free to post but any insult will lead to immediate banning.

Now, back to topic!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 03:46:23 PM
This must be a new record?
Most Max tracks on one album!

he already had 10 songs on prism and if those bonus songs are only demos he has "only" 7 songs on 1989
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 04:22:21 PM
Those bonus songs aren't demos. There are 9 Max songs.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 19, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
Those bonus songs aren't demos. There are 9 Max songs.

10
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 05:18:07 PM
10

9...

7 on the standard.
2 bonus tracks.
And then 1 further bonus track which is just an early demo of a track on the album.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: nznexus on August 19, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
if you pre-order the album on itunes you will see the taylor behind the scenes movie in high quality

anyway what i found cool is that they showed how they recorded vocals in the mic booth..
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 06:29:29 PM
Gosh, this song is SO GOOD!!!!!!!
I even call it this year's In A World Like This!!!
Already bought in on iTunes even though I'll buy the album as CD anyway
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: nznexus on August 19, 2014, 07:21:14 PM
Gosh, this song is SO GOOD!!!!!!!
I even call it this year's In A World Like This!!!
Already bought in on iTunes even though I'll buy the album as CD anyway

i was expecting more songs on the new album. 13 songs feels so-so

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: nznexus on August 19, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
i recreated taylor swift - shake it off in fl studio. it took me 2 hours.
you know you gotta be firzt and i feel i am first to recreate this basic max martin song! ahahahah

https://soundcloud.com/nznexus2/taylor-swift-shake-it-off-remake-instrumental
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Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
i recreated taylor swift - shake it off in fl studio. it took me 2 hours.
you know you gotta be firzt and i feel i am first to recreate this basic max martin song! ahahahah

https://soundcloud.com/nznexus2/taylor-swift-shake-it-off-remake-instrumental

Please, don't. No more spam, we don't need that.
Thank you.

@Benny: I thought you didn't like it at first...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2014, 09:20:52 PM
Two things: people don't seem to read the rest of the thread. Don't post the same info all over and over again, please.

And it looks like they're having so much fun while recording.
And Max is really on pitch!!
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Post by: georg_e on August 19, 2014, 10:15:57 PM

             http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2014/08/19/shake/       Yup.........really a shame, because with the masterpiece that was (is) ''Quitter'', Max/Shellback showed what they could do with bringing something new to country music, but guess Carly Rae Swiftson wasn't interested in that, so can't blame them...........










Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 19, 2014, 10:16:39 PM

@Benny: I thought you didn't like it at first...

"Really love the song" makes you think that I don't like it?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 19, 2014, 10:22:48 PM
But I keep cruiiising
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: nznexus on August 20, 2014, 01:01:33 AM
Taylor Swift may not be a pop artist forever, or even for very long; perhaps later in her career, she'll return to country music with open arms. I wouldn't be shocked if she made an acoustic album someday. However, this is where she is right now -- holding oversized boom boxes in gaudy music videos, jiving with Max Martin in the studio, flipping off the naysayers who don't think she can make spectacular pop music. She can, and she will. The rest of us will just have to get used to it.
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Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on August 20, 2014, 01:16:08 AM

Btw - whose studio is this? I love to see Max and Shellback  8) 8)

Those sort of "mat-looking" absorbers around the mic-area and the ceiling has me guessing it's Conway.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on August 20, 2014, 05:02:16 AM
It went well for Shania Twain, why not for Taylor?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 11:35:09 AM
I think yes. And for Jewel it also went quite ok?

Btw, I have a massive "Shake it off" earworm, I can't handle it.  8) 8)
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Post by: Jules on August 20, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Btw, I have a massive "Shake it off" earworm, I can't handle it.  8) 8)

3 hours ago you told me you were beginning to get an ear worm. Now it grew to be a massive one already? :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 12:20:36 PM
It happened unconsiously. Yesterday evening I couldn't even hum the melody and this morning I out of the blue had the melody in my head without listening to the song. And it has not stopped since then. I gave in and now I listen to it again. My body yearns for it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 20, 2014, 12:56:53 PM
It happened unconsiously. Yesterday evening I couldn't even hum the melody and this morning I out of the blue had the melody in my head without listening to the song. And it has not stopped since then. I gave in and now I listen to it again. My body yearns for it.

 ;D
you're such a drama queen! :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Rebecca on August 20, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
I love the song! I love the chorus, and the video of Taylor in the studio with Shellback and Max was so cool.

I think Bob Leftsetz was too harsh on Taylor, this time I don't agree with him.

I'm looking forward to all those Max/Shellback songs on her album
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 03:17:32 PM
;D
you're such a drama queen! :P
I hope you see the joke in between my lines.  :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 04:25:02 PM
Btw - the reason why "Shake it off" is not on Spotify yet:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/taylor-swifts-label-shuns-streaming-services-with-red-20121025
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: nznexus on August 20, 2014, 07:08:08 PM
who cares about spotify? I listen on youtube and if i want a song i download with youtube downloader

10 million views on shake it off in 2 days
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 20, 2014, 08:06:07 PM
^ IP ban please :-\
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Voodoo on August 20, 2014, 08:15:49 PM
who cares about spotify? I listen on youtube and if i want a song i download with youtube downloader

Wow those artists and producers you jock so hard must be very valuable to you huh? They bring enough joy and excitement and energy into your life that you bypass supporting them financially and you just download their songs?!!!
Hope youre not trying to be a succesfull songwriter or produce or remixer with that attitude.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 08:23:58 PM
^ IP ban please :-\
Merged accounts. And the original account is still banned.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Btw, is it true, that the song has just 3 harmonies?

And these are played throughout the whole song?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: georg_e on August 20, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
Wow those artists and producers you jock so hard must be very valuable to you huh? They bring enough joy and excitement and energy into your life that you bypass supporting them financially and you just download their songs?!!!
Hope youre not trying to be a succesfull songwriter or produce or remixer with that attitude.
     My inner teenage anarchist is a bit bemused by all this outrage......it's not quite as black & white as all that......read this by Sophia Somajo, aka ''Tiffany Amber'', co-writer of  ''3'' (Britney).   http://www.youcancallmesoso.com/letter.html   

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 20, 2014, 10:20:10 PM
Btw, is it true, that the song has just 3 harmonies?

And these are played throughout the whole song?

You mean chords?

In other news:
@chartnews: US chart preview: Shake It Off, @taylorswift13 425-450,000 downloads.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2014, 11:05:19 PM
Yes chords.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 20, 2014, 11:10:03 PM
Yeah only 3 chords, and yeah, throughout the whole song.
Just as in Till The World Ends e.g.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 21, 2014, 12:36:37 PM
Kinda a Happy rip off.

I see the "Happy" mutuality. The beat is very similar.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 21, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
I see the "Happy" mutuality. The beat is very similar.

then again it has also a lot of similarities with Avril's "Girlfriend"
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Raul_esp on August 21, 2014, 01:26:55 PM
Wow , ''Shake it off'' is Fresh and different , I liked it in the first listen but I think I'm gonna love it. Max did it again!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 21, 2014, 03:14:19 PM
The first karaoke versions are released

http://open.spotify.com/track/28TWQwnXyxekd5ailJ39xS

I really wonder who is behind this industry and if they really make lots of money.

To the experts: How long does it take to make a instrumental like this?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: bugmenot on August 21, 2014, 06:00:34 PM
Absolutely
Avril's "Girlfriend"

And verse is INYWT same melody.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 21, 2014, 06:30:54 PM

To the experts: How long does it take to make a instrumental like this?

Top producers like Max and Shellback should take it 1-2 days to create the original instrumental. I can't listen to the karaoke version but if that's really an "industry", then they should get it ready in 1-2 days too, especially as they probably don't use real instruments.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on August 21, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
Probably a pretty accurate answer. 1-2 days to get it to its "pretty much finnished" form. Then again, Max, more than any other is known to be an extreme perfectionist, so it's probably not uncommon for him to spend a couple of extra days just finely adjusting kickdrum sounds and things. Though the vocals is the part that is the most time consuming I'd say.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 21, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
It depends on so much though.
Do you start the song with the production? --> are you writing the song while/after producing it?
Is the songwriting done before the production?
Do you already know which instuments you'd like to use?
How many real instuments are you using?

And I'm sure that they ALWAYS add extra elements to the production once the vocals are recorded.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Raul_esp on August 21, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
Damn , it's a drug , I can't stop listening it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 25, 2014, 07:42:19 PM
Live at the VMA:

http://www.mtv.com/ontv/vma/videos/shake-it-off-live/1066927/#id=1729742

Max must be proud. 3 songs live on stage.  8) 8)
Even 4 if you count "One more night"

But weird: You hardly hear her in the chorus.

"Dark horse" and "Problem" won awards.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: bugmenot on August 25, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Live at the VMA

Interesting video — Taylor Swift's VMAs Performance, With Her Vocals Isolated
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/taylor-swifts-vmas-performance-with-her-vocals-isolate-1626334694/+bubbaprog (http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/taylor-swifts-vmas-performance-with-her-vocals-isolate-1626334694/+bubbaprog)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 27, 2014, 06:35:42 PM
NUMBER 1, YES!!!

""Shake" arrives with 544,000 first-week downloads sold in the week ending Aug. 24, according to Nielsen SoundScan. The sum marks the greatest weekly total this year and the fourth-best bow all-time, two of which now belong to Swift. Flo Rida's "Right Round" began with 636,000 (Feb. 28, 2009), followed by Swift's "Together" (623,000, Sept. 1, 2012). Katy Perry's "Roar" ranks third with 557,000 sold in its first week (Aug. 31, 2013)."

--> http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6229439/taylor-swift-shake-it-off-no-1-hot-100-nicki-minaj-anaconda?mobile_redirection=false
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on August 27, 2014, 07:37:44 PM
18th #1 as songwriter and producer  8) 8)

Means:

#2 on the "Producers with the most number-one singles" list after George Martin (#23s)

#3 on the "Songwriters with most number-one singles" list after John Lennon (26 #1s) and Paul McCartney (32 #1s)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 27, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
"I will never stop - until you're mine!" - Max Martin about the #1 spot of "Songwriters with most number-one singles" :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 28, 2014, 01:54:17 AM
Is that a real quote bsteady?
Actually I think he will beat it!
Anyways congratulations to max and "shelly"
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 28, 2014, 09:25:43 AM
Yes it's a real quote. Not from Max Martin though :D I'm sure you know it :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 28, 2014, 10:56:11 AM
googled it and found it in an Nsync song  ;)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 28, 2014, 11:07:01 AM
googled it and found it in an Nsync song  ;)

How can you be part of the Cheiron forum and not know this song?!? :o
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Rebecca on August 28, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
Amazing news! Another no.1 for Max and Shellback! well deserved.

I loved Taylor's performance at VMA's, just great. I thought her vocals were pretty good.

@BSteady, I love the quote from NSync - totally true!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 28, 2014, 02:29:47 PM
I love the fact that she's singing "movin" in the first pre chorus and "groovin" in the second one. All about the details ;)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Rex on August 28, 2014, 05:25:16 PM
I love the fact that she's singing "movin" in the first pre chorus and "groovin" in the second one. All about the details ;)

Max has always used that kind of tricks - changing words for others with a similar pronunciation. Like, "we called it off again last night " and "you called me up again tonight" in wanegbt.
Heyy i've just realised that there are 3 max's song in top 10 this week!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on August 28, 2014, 09:26:42 PM
A very nice article about the 18th Number 1

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6236395/max-martin-scores-18th-no-1-on-billboard-hot-100-shake-it-off

Now I want him on the cover of Billboard with a very, very long interview  ;D

BTW, some interesting facts about this exciting list:
 - 7 years in a row he has had at least a number one hit.
 - 3 is the maximum of number ones in a year: 2010, 2011, 2012.
 - Most profitable artist to work with: Katy Perry, 8 number ones.
 - Nsync and Maroon 5 are the only full male acts who achieved number ones with Max.
 - Girlbands or solo male artists still mean no number one for Max (Go for it Max!)
 


Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 28, 2014, 10:18:24 PM
I always think Katy Perry must be a dream cowriting partner, as well as Taylor.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Raul_esp on August 29, 2014, 01:16:38 AM
Congratulations Max , Taylor and Shellback!! , Well deserved! , 18th Number 1!! , Amazing , The best pop songwriter ever.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 29, 2014, 05:20:29 AM
I don't value Katy as a co-writer at all... All she contributes are lyrics and most of them are embarrassing and are the worst part of the song. Like "Ghost" is an amazing melody but with lyrics like 'And there's just a pillow where your head used to sleep'. And "Roar" is nothing but songwriting cliche after songwriting cliche (eye of the tiger/bite my tongue/hold my breath/rock the boat/stinging like a bee/floating like a butterfly/zero to hero).

Whereas with Taylor, you hear her influence in the songwriting, and she has plenty of solo-writing credentials in the past to let you know she's the real deal. For instance, she wrote the amazing chorus to "I Knew You Were Trouble" before bringing the song to Max/Shellback.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 29, 2014, 05:26:10 AM
I don't value Katy as a co-writer at all... All she contributes are lyrics and most of them are embarrassing and are the worst part of the song. Like "Ghost" is an amazing melody but with lyrics like 'And there's just a pillow where your head used to sleep'. And "Roar" is nothing but songwriting cliche after songwriting cliche (eye of the tiger/bite my tongue/hold my breath/rock the boat/stinging like a bee/floating like a butterfly/zero to hero).

Whereas with Taylor, you hear her influence in the songwriting, and she has plenty of solo-writing credentials in the past to let you know she's the real deal. For instance, she wrote the amazing chorus to "I Knew You Were Trouble" before bringing the song to Max/Shellback.

how do you know Katy wrote those specific lyrics?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on August 29, 2014, 05:38:15 AM
how do you know Katy wrote those specific lyrics?

Well Katy's job in the songwriting process, usually along with Bonnie McKee, is to write the lyrics. And they're usually quite dull and colourless. Sometimes this works, because the lyrics are just a vessell for the incredible melodies, but sometimes they're so cringeworthy that they actively get in the way of the song.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 29, 2014, 07:13:30 AM
Well, I'm not sure about it.

I think her input is more than just that: she's a great topliner, lyricist and songwriter.
She had some pretty good songs written by her own, but the songwriting terms in the industry are different: people write over tracks because it's way easier to have a hit like that.

All the songs are written from different places, everyone that works making music knows that: from a melody, from a lyrics, from a chorus or an idea of something, etc.
Then the collaborators help to polish the songs and make contributions in favor to get a better product.

You can tell about Katy and Taylor for example, that they are involved in the songwriting, because it seems honest and connected with their material. I don't know how to explain it, you just can tell.

Hopefully, someday we'll get the change to know more about her process and her songs.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 29, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
How can you be part of the Cheiron forum and not know this song?!? :o

Oh Im not embarrassed for saying that I haven't heard every max song in the world! Have you? ;)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 30, 2014, 12:46:48 AM
Oh Im not embarrassed for saying that I haven't heard every max song in the world! Have you? ;)

No but I'll Never Stop is not just a Max song. It's on a record setting album and one of the best NSYNC songs ever
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 30, 2014, 12:57:30 AM
Come on Benny, you're being a bit over the top with it...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 31, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
Oh Im not embarrassed for saying that I haven't heard every max song in the world! Have you? ;)

I'd say I have!  :o


Benny, "I'll never stop" wasn't a single in the states, maybe that's why we consider it more popular than it actually is?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 31, 2014, 12:19:01 PM
I'd say I have!  :o


Benny, "I'll never stop" wasn't a single in the states, maybe that's why we consider it more popular than it actually is?

I'll Never Stop is from the heyday of Cheiron, I'd even consider it as one of the most famous Cheiron songs since it's on the No Strings Attached album
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on August 31, 2014, 01:16:12 PM
Alright I should have known it. But I gotta say so you know in the future, that there's probably a lot of cheiron songs from back in the day that I haven't heard, or at least don't know all lyrics to. I Like This Forum Anyways  ;D

Jules that's impressive, but do you know every word in every Max song?

Let's get back to topic.

Am I right that the verses only have one harmony playing like a melody under Taylor? playing A-C-F,G-F,G. And then in the pre the backing vocals creates the whole chords; Am,C,G???
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Jules on August 31, 2014, 02:11:06 PM
Jules that's impressive, but do you know every word in every Max song?

Most definetely not!!

I'm a melody person, I don't even really care for lyrics!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: B Steady on August 31, 2014, 03:01:11 PM
Most definetely not!!

I'm a melody person, I don't even really care for lyrics!

Same
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on September 08, 2014, 05:15:10 PM
Big article:

Quote
The album was executive-produced by Swift and Max Martin, with whom she first collaborated on her 2012 single "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together." Officially, it's not even finished yet: Somewhere in Sweden, Martin is tinkering until the very last minute to ensure the drum sounds are as up-to-date as possible.

You really must love her humour.  8)

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/taylor-swift-1989-cover-story-20140908#ixzz3CjmlvUEX
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 08, 2014, 09:26:11 PM
And she gave 90 bucks to a fan to have dinner in her birthday.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: Polarmachine on September 10, 2014, 03:02:27 PM
Taylor disses a popstar in the track Bad Blood. Any guesses who this can be?
My guesses are Katy or Miley. I heard somewhere that Katy "stole" three of Taylors dancers in the middle of the Red Tour and that kind of makes sense if you read what T says in the Rolling Stone article.
haha, she always creates a buzz around her songs writing about exes and now she starts a feud with another famous pop singer. Actually a kinda smart move to get more attention.

I wonder if it's produced by our favorites...  ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: sweetmelody on September 10, 2014, 06:17:42 PM
Would be weird if Max co-wrote/produced a Katy diss track for obvious reasons. I doubt he's involved in it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: uberweiss on September 16, 2014, 09:20:43 PM
Quote
The Swedish pop giant, with help from his protege Shellback, produced almost half the songs on 1989, and is also, along with Swift, the executive producer of the album as a whole. Swift has worked with him before, on 2012's Red, but he plays a much bigger role this time around. "I used to talk about Max Martin like he was this sorcerer who lived in a castle on a hill," says Swift. "And then one time Scott [Borchetta, the head of her label] said to me, ‘You know...you can work with him if you want to.' I was like, What?!"
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/taylor-swift-reveals-five-things-to-expect-on-1989-20140916
Title: Re: Taylor Swift to head back to studio with Max and Shellback!
Post by: turnaround on September 23, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
I need this edition:


Quote
Deluxe edition contains 3 additional tracks, 3 of Taylor's songwriting Voice Memos (documenting the early creation of 3 songs on the album) plus 1 of 5 Collectible Sets of 13 Exclusive Polaroid Photo Prints!

The brand new album from Taylor Swift, featuring the first single "Shake It Off". More info to come!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 13, 2014, 05:48:15 PM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6281593/taylor-swift-out-of-the-woods-new-song-1989?facebook_20141013

New single out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 14, 2014, 06:05:09 AM
Such a disappointment.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 14, 2014, 06:20:37 AM
Max produced the vocal. Seeing him doing that a lot lately and got to thinking: what is it that makes Max special in vocal production? What is the exact role of a vocal producer? I haven't seen much written about Max regarding this. Usually people take about the melodies and production.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: turnaround on October 14, 2014, 10:27:24 AM
"Out of the woods" - sounds very interesting. I really look forward to it.



http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6281670/taylor-swifts-out-of-the-woods-has-arrivedwith-lyrics-listen?facebook_20141013
Title: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: gm33 on October 14, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Seems like this deserves its own thread since it's not part of SIO.

http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/10/13/taylor-swift-out-of-the-woods-new-song-harry-styles-listen/  - listen link included
http://www.mtv.com/news/1962712/taylor-swift-out-of-the-woods/

"Out of the Woods"     
Writers: Taylor Swift, Jack Antonoff
Producers: Antonoff, Swift, Max Martin (vocal)

I love how Taylor gives credit to MXM :)
http://taylorswift.com/news/228393

It's no Max Martin song, but I think it's incredible. I love it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Shake It Off (Max/Shellback)
Post by: georg_e on October 14, 2014, 03:35:20 PM
Max produced the vocal. Seeing him doing that a lot lately and got to thinking: what is it that makes Max special in vocal production? What is the exact role of a vocal producer? I haven't seen much written about Max regarding this. Usually people take about the melodies and production.
     If you can find it on YOuTube (I saw it a couple of years ago) there's a video of Max in studio with Britney where Max is singing exactly how he wanted her to sing/phrase certan lines on "I'm not a Girl Not yet a Woman".  It made a big impression on me, because he was so great at nuance, really subtle!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on October 14, 2014, 04:59:34 PM
Seems like this deserves its own thread

Disagree.

www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=2816.105 (http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=2816.105)

I suggest renaming the other thread from "Shake it off" to "1989" and merge these 2 threads. It's unnecessary to open a new thread for every song.
Turnaround?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 14, 2014, 05:52:10 PM
I agree with Jules, merge threads.

And I don't like the song at all.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: georg_e on October 14, 2014, 07:07:44 PM

      Well, whatever thread it winds up in........this is a GREAT song and record. Huge, different and perfect for Fall. Could've been the first single too......although I guess they saved the better song for second.......smart!! :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on October 14, 2014, 07:36:02 PM
I agree with Jules, merge threads.

The beginning of a wonderful friendship.  :-*
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rebecca on October 15, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
I love Out of The Woods. It is unusual that Max produced it without having a co-write, as that doesn't happen very often.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 15, 2014, 09:24:51 PM
Snippet of a new song from the Diet Coke commercial.

:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okTokQgOo6I
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: AdamKhan on October 15, 2014, 11:32:46 PM
Snippet of a new song from the Diet Coke commercial.

:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okTokQgOo6I

Sounds like a Max x Shellback collaboration ;) ;) ;)

And that's how it works. That's how you get the girl girl
 
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 16, 2014, 04:13:22 AM
Snippet of a new song from the Diet Coke commercial.

:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okTokQgOo6I

Those kitties….omg

Song reminds me a bit of Avril, circa Let Go era
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 16, 2014, 04:47:01 AM
I love Out of The Woods. It is unusual that Max produced it without having a co-write, as that doesn't happen very often.

He only vocal produced it, not the entire song. Seems to be doing that a lot more lately!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 16, 2014, 05:01:17 AM
Sounds like a Max x Shellback collaboration ;) ;) ;)

And that's how it works. That's how you get the girl girl

Yup, typical Max melody all day long!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on October 16, 2014, 07:11:54 PM
"Out Of The Woods" is ridiculously good.

Remember when you hit the brakes too soon
Twenty stitches in a hospital room
When you started crying
Baby, I did too
But when the sun came up
I was looking at you
Remember when we couldn’t take the heat
I walked out, I said “I’m setting you free”
But the monsters turned out to be just trees
When the sun came up
You were looking at me.


Wow.
And it's not even one of the 9 Max/Shellback songs. This will be the best album ever.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 16, 2014, 08:21:25 PM
This is interesting:


"Out of the Woods" is written by Taylor Swift and Jack Antonoff. It lasts for about three minutes and fifty five seconds. It is the first song that Taylor Swift has written to an existing track. Antonoff sent an early version of the song without the vocals or lyrics to Swift, which she then added in just 30 minutes. Speculation as to which man the song about is rampant. The bridge section of the song references the snowmobile incident that Swift and her former boyfriend, One Direction's Harry Styles, were reported to be involved in.

Featuring heavy synths and percussion, Antonoff described that the song is given an arrangement that combines both 80s and modern elements. A Yamaha DX7 is used for the 80s-tinged sounds apparent on most parts of the song, but they are countered with the Minimoog Voyager during the chorus sections, in which he explained, "That sounds extremely modern to me. It's that back-and-forth."

The song features layered vocals by Swift over drums and synthesizers. Antonoff also provided backing vocals. He said, "I just chopped this piece of my voice singing and started looping it over and over. Then I started banging on some drums I had in the room and stomping on the floor and sampling all these sounds to make this big bombastic looping beat with the sample on top of it."

from wikipedia

Really good track.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on October 17, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
Possible tracklist and credits:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/6289064/taylor-swift-1989-tracklist-alleged
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 20, 2014, 02:34:44 PM
So excited:

Quote
Taylor Swift, seven-time GRAMMY Award winner and Billboard Magazine’s recently named Woman of the Year (the only artist to have been awarded this honor twice), will exclusively unlock "Welcome To New York" on iTunes on Tuesday, October 21st, giving her fans a new track and a peek at what is to come from the most highly anticipated album this year, 1989 (Big Machine Records).  "Welcome To New York" is written by Taylor Swift and Ryan Tedder (One Republic) and produced by Ryan Tedder, Noel Zancanella and Taylor Swift. This is the third song revealed from 1989, Taylor’s forthcoming fifth studio album, while the current single, “Shake It Off,” remains atop the charts across the globe.

So no Max at all, but I still believe it's going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 20, 2014, 05:48:20 PM
I remember Taylor talking about a song who sampled a snare from a Fine Young Cannibals song.

Could that song be Out of the woods?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 20, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
Welcome to New York, first track of the album is out tomorrow.

Listen to a preview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81doBkpkdJQ

Produced by Ryan Tedder & Noel Zancanella from OneRepublic.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on October 21, 2014, 03:21:58 AM
It's already out: http://www.justjared.com/2014/10/20/taylor-swift-welcome-to-new-york-full-song-lyrics-listen-now/ . I like that international smile vibe haha
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Polarmachine on October 21, 2014, 11:46:23 AM
so max writes like 80% of the album but doesn't get the 2nd single. What do you guys think about that? I know Tedder is AMAZING but still a bit wierd.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 21, 2014, 01:31:16 PM
Well as a executive producer I think he had lots of input already. The single choice is always politics and I believe Max is quite happy with all the songs.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 21, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
so max writes like 80% of the album but doesn't get the 2nd single. What do you guys think about that? I know Tedder is AMAZING but still a bit wierd.

I think all the singles from here on out will be MXM. They are probably holding back the big guns for the final push of the year.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on October 21, 2014, 07:19:12 PM
She hasn't even released a 2nd single yet.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 21, 2014, 08:01:10 PM
I don't like it.

And I didn't like Out Of The Woods that much...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: georg_e on October 21, 2014, 11:15:34 PM

              "Welcome to New York'' -- love this one too........very evocative of the technicolor  rush of moving here :-)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 22, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
 "Welcome to New York'' makes me want to buy tickets to see NYC in the christmas time.

Browsing through her discography I really am blown away of some of the songs.

"Enchanted" is one of the songs I really think is a masterpieces. Back then there was no Max involved and it was so good already.

So can't wait for the album.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: DMartin on October 22, 2014, 04:20:05 AM
Sounds like Max  ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDUf6TGuMs
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 22, 2014, 05:08:57 AM
Sounds like Max  ;D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eDUf6TGuMs

sounds fantastic! just listened to that snippet a whole bunch of times. it's the song "Style."
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 22, 2014, 05:53:50 AM
I loved that one.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: J_A24 on October 22, 2014, 07:36:22 AM
I like her vocals on Out of the woods, they really worked on her delivery not to sound country-ish.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Polarmachine on October 22, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
She hasn't even released a 2nd single yet.
what do you mean?
It's obviously out on itunes. But if the record company will push it hard with a video and everything or just release it to gain attention towards the album release, I don't know.

 :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 22, 2014, 10:26:33 AM
I believe "Shake it off" is stillt he current single. All other pre-order tracks are "buzz-singles"
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 22, 2014, 05:57:29 PM
what do you mean?
It's obviously out on itunes. But if the record company will push it hard with a video and everything or just release it to gain attention towards the album release, I don't know.

 :)

These are pre-orders, to create expectations on the album.
The previews are not available yet and you have to keep the interest.

It's marketing guys, come on!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 22, 2014, 10:49:25 PM
My ranking so far:

1) OOTW (10/10)
2) SIO (8/10)
3) WTNY (7/10)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 23, 2014, 12:03:35 AM
Tracklist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_(Taylor_Swift_album) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_(Taylor_Swift_album))
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 24, 2014, 08:00:59 PM
Quote
Kobalt Music Group

Get ready for the weekend by revisiting Taylor Swift, cats, and Diet Coke! In addition to the adorable kitties, this spot features Taylor's "How You Get The Girl" co-written by Max Martin and ‪#‎Shellback‬!
Diet Coke - Taylor Swift Kittens
What would life be like if it tasted as good as Diet Coke? Taylor Swift has an idea. Get a taste of her new album, 1989, in stores on October 27.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: DMartin on October 24, 2014, 08:48:14 PM
Blank Space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsCBt9VRm78
I love the chorus !!! ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on October 24, 2014, 09:19:52 PM
The album leaked and it is, on 1st listen, absolutely unbelievable.
Like, everything I could ever want.
These melodies are ridic.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: AdamKhan on October 24, 2014, 10:32:56 PM
Album is incredible !!!!!!!!!!

and that Max Martin voice memo omg
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: J_A24 on October 25, 2014, 02:36:50 AM
New Romance is my early favorite. Love the sound design and the chords. Lots of amazing reverb in this album, sounds big.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 25, 2014, 05:05:47 AM
Album is incredible !!!!!!!!!!

and that Max Martin voice memo omg

I'm waiting until Monday to hear the songs, but can I find the voice memo online?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 25, 2014, 07:38:17 AM
I'm waiting until Monday to hear the songs, but can I find the voice memo online?

i'm waiting til monday too. have never bought a t.swift album but this time it's gonna be worth it for an album this caliber.

would be interesting to hear the voice memos first, then be blown away by the final version.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: rhythmic5 on October 25, 2014, 07:50:53 AM
I'd say my top choices for this album are:
1. Bad Blood
2. SIO
3. Blank Slate

not feeling the rest of the record entirely, but I'm sure that'll change with more plays.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on October 25, 2014, 09:40:11 AM
I'm looking for the tracklist (and the DVD content) of the Japanese version, but couldn't find anything so far?

Anyone?  :-[
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on October 25, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
Got a long list of ex-lovers
They'll tell you I'm insane
'Cause you know I love the players
And YOU! LOVE! THE GAME!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on October 25, 2014, 03:25:23 PM
i'm waiting til monday too. have never bought a t.swift album but this time it's gonna be worth it for an album this caliber.

would be interesting to hear the voice memos first, then be blown away by the final version.

Same here, but I almost feel like I'm buying a Max/Shellback record.  ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on October 25, 2014, 04:13:55 PM
Has aynone heard this love? it's like the lost cousin of begin again. I'm loving this song
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: georg_e on October 25, 2014, 05:08:02 PM

                   http://www.popjustice.com/briefing/1989-words-on-the-new-taylor-swift-album/131956/   Good appreciation of the album, with a funny, self-mocking ending.......
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: gm33 on October 25, 2014, 06:30:06 PM
I'm trying SO hard to wait till Monday! The suspense is killing me. My two favorite things in music are Taylor Swift and Max Martin, so Monday can't come quick enough.

The 0:30 snippet of Style from the Target commercial is intoxicating! 
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 25, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
I made a quick first listen of the album, started hearing the voice memos.
Such a great idea to incluse these ones.

I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan -love her songwriting- but I'm not really feeling the production: sounds a bit dated at times and after hearing the voice memos, seems to me like the songs are lost in the production.

Melody-wise, is excellent.
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Post by: turnaround on October 25, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
I'm so excited.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/3dd6e68b492a01f47cea6dd0fb76e9c4/tumblr_ndwmn4m1uA1u22ky0o1_1280.png)
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Post by: J_A24 on October 25, 2014, 09:03:59 PM
I hear a lot of end of 90s-early 00s pop rock references in it.

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: J_A24 on October 25, 2014, 09:06:14 PM
I made a quick first listen of the album, started hearing the voice memos.
Such a great idea to incluse these ones.

I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan -love her songwriting- but I'm not really feeling the production: sounds a bit dated at times and after hearing the voice memos, seems to me like the songs are lost in the production.

Melody-wise, is excellent.

I think some of it sounds dated definitely, but they balance it with creative and organic sounds. That's what I kinda liked from the beginning. I hear some nice sample manipulation sound design.
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Post by: uberweiss on October 26, 2014, 01:56:48 AM
"Style" and "Wildest Dreams" are so hypnotising. Unbelievably addictive. The vocals, the production, the melodies... Bliss.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 26, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
To me, the standout tracks are Blank Space -though I don't like the production at all-, Style -to me, that chorus doesn't carry the rest of the song-, Wonderland produced by Greg Kurstin, New Romance.

My favourite by far is All You Had To Do Was Stay: it's just perfect.
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Post by: J_A24 on October 26, 2014, 04:36:12 AM


My favourite by far is All You Had To Do Was Stay: it's just perfect.

Yeah, might just be the strongest chorus on the album. It kinda gives me that cheiron vibe.
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Post by: uberweiss on October 27, 2014, 04:33:33 AM
The most classic Max melody for me is "we found wonderland / you and I got lost in it / and we pretended it could last forever".
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2014, 05:21:21 AM
The album is out.

Official credits:

1. Written by Taylor Swift & Ryan Tedder
2. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback
3. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin, Shellback & Ali Payami / Recorded 19th February 2014
4. Written by Taylor Swift & Jack Antonoff
5. Written by Taylor Swift & Max Martin
6. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback / Recorded 15th February 2014
7. Written by Taylor Swift & Jack Antonoff
8. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback
9. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback
10. Written by Taylor Swift, Max Martin & Shellback
11. Written by Taylor Swift. Produced by Nathan Chapman & Taylor Swift
12. Written by Taylor Swift & Ryan Tedder / Recorded 22th January
13. Written by Taylor Swift & Imogen Heap / Recorded 9th February 2014

Mixed by Serban Ghenea.
Executive production: Max Martin & Taylor Swift.
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Post by: turnaround on October 27, 2014, 09:41:26 AM
Amazing. I have downloaded the album on iTunes and the booklet is priceless.

Spoiler alert:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9taTd9BUzakY2VBOGl2aFhCZXVXck1MbGE2RHRCdTZnNXJR/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9taTd9BUzakZEx4dV84QWh4V0lacGZ2emtTbHR6MDRGaDNz/view?usp=sharing
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Post by: Polarmachine on October 27, 2014, 10:58:04 AM
big day for max and shellback fans!!! Just bought it but haven't listened yet, stuck in school. But damn Max has been working out!! haha
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 27, 2014, 11:53:52 AM
Judging an album by snippets is never a good idea.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on October 27, 2014, 01:54:51 PM
I got surprised when i saw those two max and shellbacks photos in the booklet
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 27, 2014, 02:19:23 PM
OK, first listen, and here are my thoughts. I will start with the three songs released first: SIO, OFTW and WTNY. Shake It Off is already one of my all time MXM faves (until I heard the rest of the album). I honestly am not grabbed by WTNY and OFTW. Good songs, but lack the "magic" element for me melodically. Now on to the rest of the album. Well, how should I put this, for a fan of pure pop perfection, I was in heaven. It absolutely blew me away. This is MXM and Shellback on top of their game, hitting their peak. If they get better than this melodically, then they are truly aliens. And it is clear that TS is a huge part of this. To be honest, if I was MXM and Shellback I would try to have TS join their team. They are absolutely EXTRAORDINARY together. As for TS, I only started like her in 2012 because of the 3 MXM/SB songs. And now I can say she is my favorite female artist. She sounds absolutely fantastic on this album. Her vocals are more on point than ever. I can only attribute this to the insane vocal production skills of MXM (and I think she obviously feels most comfortable with him). All in all, I can't wait to keep listening and I am going to make a bold prediction right now: "Blank Space" will be the next single and it will go #1. Here's another prediction: this has a chance to rival Teenage Dream in terms of Max's best pure pop work and might have similar if not better success on the charts. I counted at least 5 more potential #1 singles in there. Don't be surprised if MXM breaks the record for most #1's very, very soon. 

The photos, voice memos and behind the scenes video of Max and Shellback are great! Kind of shows us their personalties a little more, which is cool since they are usually so private it's hard to tell. First of all, Max seems like a funny and relaxed guy. He's also got some guns! Seems he's been working out. Shellback looks like he's a little shier than I imagined. Also looks like a relaxed kind of guy.
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Post by: Jules on October 27, 2014, 04:01:50 PM
I was just listening to the iTunes previews and I liked basically 0 songs

You better continue R.I.P.-ing!  :-X ;D
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Post by: Polarmachine on October 27, 2014, 04:44:36 PM
I don't think the productions sounds outdated at all. The production for Style is a bit too similar to Love me harder imo.

EDIT: Wonderful, Blank Space, All you had to do was stay are my favorites after the first listen :)
Ryan Tedder's song I know Places kind of rips off You're The Voice by John Farnham.
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Post by: turnaround on October 27, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Btw, I can not yet comment on the album, I need a few more listens. But I hear some hits.

Fabulous: "All you had to to was stay"

It's sometimes very Avril-ish.

Off topic: I would love Max and Ryan Tedder to work for a song.


Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on October 27, 2014, 06:59:57 PM
Nothing on her record that was produced by Max sounds as epic as I Knew You Were Trouble or even 22 and We Are Never Getting Back Together!

The mood he made for her is kind of "retro" kind of 70's and not the usual him.
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 27, 2014, 07:08:26 PM
After more listens...

Surefire Hits (in order)
1. Bad Blood
2. How You Get the Girl
3. All You Had to Do Was Stay
4. Blank Space

Possible Hits
1. Style
2. Wildest Dreams

Good album tracks
1. This Love
2. I Know Places
3. I Wish You Would

Not a fan
1. Out Of the Woods
2. Welcome to New York
3. Clean
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Post by: turnaround on October 27, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
Incredible:

(http://abload.de/img/catturak3ycr.png)

And "Blank space" seems to really be a favourite of many people so far? Wikipedia says it's single #2.

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Post by: georg_e on October 27, 2014, 09:48:14 PM

               Ambassador Swift :-)    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/taylor-swift-named-new-york-744092
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on October 27, 2014, 10:04:18 PM
What's the best time to visit New York? I wanna go.  8)

@sweetmelody:

I pretty much agree with your ranking, though I would put "Out of the woods" better.

Have you heard the deluxe tracks?

I'm not a fan of "New Romantics". Very generic.
"Wonderland" is quite nice though, but probably a good choice for a bonus track.
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Post by: maxmartin'sfan on October 28, 2014, 12:11:31 AM
This album is just..WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW  !!!!!
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Post by: Adam B on October 28, 2014, 12:29:38 AM
I had a listen and it really sounds like an album, most tracks have the same sound and there seems to be a lot of work behind every track. Don't really feel they are looking for lots of hits but rather wanted to put out something with some thought behind it, something that feels like a group of tracks belonging together.

However I think the mixing is way too bland, nothing sticks out and that makes me lose interest to some extent -especially when taylor doesn't have that voice that can carry a track by itself. Another thing that struck me was that the level is kinda low, a lot lower than it would have been some years ago.. Maybe that's a good thing.

My favourite so far is Blank Space.
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Post by: J_A24 on October 28, 2014, 01:11:49 AM

However I think the mixing is way too bland, nothing sticks out and that makes me lose interest to some extent -especially when taylor doesn't have that voice that can carry a track by itself.


Lots of reverb will do that. I'd still would've liked the synths to sound more present, but you gotta sacrifice some of that to make it sound bigger.
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Post by: georg_e on October 28, 2014, 01:25:21 AM

                 Pretty amazing, when everyone is saying albums are finished, nobody cares, don't bother, people only want singles, etc etc that Taylor is getting all this press for this album....and no doubt a lot of sales. Quite an achievement!!
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Post by: Adam B on October 28, 2014, 01:32:36 AM
Lots of reverb will do that. I'd still would've liked the synths to sound more present, but you gotta sacrifice some of that to make it sound bigger.

Didn't think of it but you're 100% correct -there's A LOT OF REVERB on this on this one! Trance amounts.. Still they haven't gone for that huge sound, most stuff's in the middle. Must have been a very conscious decision.

Serban Ghenea mixes most of the dr luke/max martin stuff and he's usually on point but here I really would have liked the vocals more upfront and the mix a little more limited..
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Post by: Adam B on October 28, 2014, 01:58:13 AM
ok, I had another go at the album and that reverb is everywhere..!  :-\

I think Taylor went to martin and asked for something that sounds like 'royals' -he said "sure I'll just dial up my 480.."
Just that he turned it up way too much.

Here'e something else for reverb-lovers:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dFz10R529g
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 28, 2014, 04:41:17 AM
i bought the album at Target today. i love the inclusion of the 3 voice memos - wish she recorded more! I listened to them first before listening to their respective studio versions... the Tedder song is really nice actually. her vocals at the very end are great. it's nice knowing Taylor really is a prominent part of the lyrics and melodies of these songs. it gives the album the full package. like they're not just catchy songs; they're coming from this girl's mind. pair that with Max/Shellback production and it's heaven.

Wildest Dreams is fantastic. her voice is really lovely when she's not pushing it - and the production is so blissful. the lyrical content really reminds me of Lana Del Rey. this is a standout along with Blank Space (that chorus is undeniable) and Style. the pulsating rhythm and lyrics, melody, her vocals.

quite a few of these songs (Bad Blood and All You Had To Do Was Stay) sound like Avril i noticed. but that ain't a bad thing... just makes me wish Avril did an album exec-produced by Max haha.

The Imogen Heap track is nice. only listened to it once but I can appreciate the production and immi's bg vocals. just the first day of listening to the album but this one will stay fresh for a while.
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 28, 2014, 05:06:57 AM
What's the best time to visit New York? I wanna go.  8)

@sweetmelody:

I pretty much agree with your ranking, though I would put "Out of the woods" better.

Have you heard the deluxe tracks?

I'm not a fan of "New Romantics". Very generic.
"Wonderland" is quite nice though, but probably a good choice for a bonus track.

Best time to visit New York? ALL the time! Each season brings something special, so just find the cheapest tickets and hotels and Enjoy! :-)

I have heard the deluxe tracks and they are just OK to me, even the MXM/SB ones. 
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 28, 2014, 05:09:19 AM
I had a listen and it really sounds like an album, most tracks have the same sound and there seems to be a lot of work behind every track. Don't really feel they are looking for lots of hits but rather wanted to put out something with some thought behind it, something that feels like a group of tracks belonging together.

However I think the mixing is way too bland, nothing sticks out and that makes me lose interest to some extent -especially when taylor doesn't have that voice that can carry a track by itself. Another thing that struck me was that the level is kinda low, a lot lower than it would have been some years ago.. Maybe that's a good thing.

My favourite so far is Blank Space.

Re: hits, I disagree. This album is full of hits, IMO. Some of the catchiest and melodic songs I've heard in a while.

Re: mix, this is some of Serban's best work. Again, IMO.
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Post by: Adam B on October 28, 2014, 05:16:40 AM
Re: hits, I disagree. This album is full of hits, IMO. Some of the catchiest and melodic songs I've heard in a while.

Re: mix, this is some of Serban's best work. Again, IMO.

Well I think it's full of hits also, but not the super obvious, not the teenage dream ones..
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 28, 2014, 05:36:33 AM
We'll see, but I guess it's all personal opinion. To me this is the best pop album since TD and I think I like it more.
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Post by: turnaround on October 28, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Best time to visit New York? ALL the time! Each season brings something special, so just find the cheapest tickets and hotels and Enjoy! :-)

I'm coming (as soon as I've got enough money) :)

*visits Houston Street*


"How you get the girl" and "All you had to do was stay" are pretty much my favourite from the album.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 28, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
I think it's a really good album, and she have high standards. I'm not really feeling the full-pop production.

I think I love Red better.
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Post by: Polarmachine on October 28, 2014, 10:04:06 PM
I had a listen and it really sounds like an album, most tracks have the same sound and there seems to be a lot of work behind every track. Don't really feel they are looking for lots of hits but rather wanted to put out something with some thought behind it, something that feels like a group of tracks belonging together.

However I think the mixing is way too bland, nothing sticks out and that makes me lose interest to some extent -especially when taylor doesn't have that voice that can carry a track by itself. Another thing that struck me was that the level is kinda low, a lot lower than it would have been some years ago.. Maybe that's a good thing.

My favourite so far is Blank Space.

I agree that the mixing makes makes some songs less interesting for me. I prefer when you actually can hear the guitars not only drums and vocals, for instance. This is something Taylor wanted I guess and you can really hear her Lorde inspiration, especially on Wildest Dreams. Also a bit of Lana Del Rey  ;)

Now I've had 4-5 listens and no songs reach up to their 3 songs on Red imo, maybe How You Get The Girl melodywise, but not production wise.   :-\

BUT; They had a different approach when making these songs. I think they focused more on making a complete album, and actually this album is more sonically put together than Red. 
AND; I think Taylor came in with a lot of the melody-ideas, we know for sure Blank Space, and Max/Shellback let Taylor write most of her own album and they produced it and was more of 2 co-writers.




 
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 29, 2014, 12:05:58 AM
Did you get the album Benny? or you're still based on 1.30 previews? :P
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Post by: turnaround on October 29, 2014, 06:49:39 AM
Steady. Thanks for that. Max will surely appreciate and improve next time so that it meets your standard.
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Post by: Rebecca on October 29, 2014, 11:25:34 AM
I only just bought the cd today. My favourites are Style and How You Get the Girl as well as Shake it Off obviously. Overall I love the album, it's beautiful. I love the photos of Max and Shellback too in the cd sleeve, so cool.
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 29, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
Would be interesting to get some more insight as to Max and Shellback's involvement in the album. Blank Space seems to be a song that was mostly written beforehand and MXM/SB mostly produced it. Judging by the 3 voice memos, those songs were pretty much written by TS. But I wonder if those are the only ones she mostly wrote herself and that's why the voice memos were put out. I know that it's incredibly important for TS and her team that she be viewed as the songwriter. I even remember her taking most of the credit for the MXM/SB songs on Red as well. I'm not saying it's being embellished because everyone in the industry knows that TS is a great writer in her own right. Just really curious what parts were done by who. The melodies on this album are really super amazing. Some of them, like How You Get the Girl, sound 100% MXM.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 29, 2014, 05:23:17 PM
As you could imagine -and as Taylor said on the voice memos- there are a lot of ways to make music.

I think they crafted the songs from different ways: from scratch, writing to a track, from a previous idea, etc.

I've been listening the album and I think I don't like it that much in comparison to her previous releases.
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 29, 2014, 05:34:43 PM
STAAAY - allyouadtadowuzSTAAAAY!
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Post by: Polarmachine on October 29, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
I agreed with Benny in almost everything he wrote in that post, why is it gone?
Aren't we allowed to discuss more than; OMG I loved this and that part of this and that song bl.a. bl.a.
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Post by: Rebecca on October 29, 2014, 08:51:08 PM
I agreed with Benny in almost everything he wrote in that post, why is it gone?
Aren't we allowed to discuss more than; OMG I loved this and that part of this and that song bl.a. bl.a.

I don't know where it's gone either, did Benny delete it? in fact, I didn't have a chance to read it.
Yes, of course we can discuss if we don't like something.
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Post by: turnaround on October 29, 2014, 10:24:30 PM
Criticism is always appreciated. Also negative reviews are always welcome. My post was just aiming at Steady, as he still is not apologizing for accusating some of our members disrespectful.
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Post by: turnaround on October 29, 2014, 10:56:13 PM
amazing sales

http://m.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6296916/taylor-swift-1989-sales-1-million
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Post by: Rex on October 30, 2014, 02:04:38 AM
This looks more than amazing https://twitter.com/taylornation13/status/527483431891247104
https://twitter.com/taylornation13/status/527309701902794752
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 30, 2014, 04:43:03 PM
It's OK to comment something, as long as you're respectful.

I think her sales are high because she's such a good social media user.
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 31, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
Next single confirmed. "Blank Space" hits radio Nov 10. Obviously, as we know, it's another MXM/SB song.

Can this be Max's 19th #1 hit and put him 4 behind George Martin?
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 31, 2014, 06:40:48 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/the-most-popular-song-on-taylor-swifts-1989-album

There's a poll about fan faves.

Stay is not on the top 3.
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Post by: sweetmelody on October 31, 2014, 07:06:53 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/the-most-popular-song-on-taylor-swifts-1989-album

There's a poll about fan faves.

Stay is not on the top 3.

Not a coincidence it was #1 and now it's the next single. Market. Research. Yes.
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Post by: turnaround on October 31, 2014, 09:21:48 PM
Next single confirmed. "Blank Space" hits radio Nov 10. Obviously, as we know, it's another MXM/SB song.

Can this be Max's 19th #1 hit and put him 4 behind George Martin?

I really hope so.

But what makes the song so popular? The lyrics. I really like it, but there are two better songs. Stay and How to...
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Post by: j.fco.morales on November 01, 2014, 12:59:04 AM
Imogen Heap wrote a blog entry about her collabo with Taylor:
http://imogenheap.com/?article=1321

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Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2014, 01:39:07 AM
I really hope so.

But what makes the song so popular? The lyrics. I really like it, but there are two better songs. Stay and How to...

That's a great question. It is one of my favorites on 1989, but I don't think it's the strongest song on the album. That said, I think fans connect to more than just lyrics , and with TS the lyrics are usually always fantastic. I think it's more the overall vibe of the song and I think the chorus is actually very strong. It doesn't jump out as a traditional big hook but it's what I like to call a "creeper." You find yourself singing it non-stop.

I'd also like to note that since we know TS was the one who wrote and brought the song to MXM/SB, it probably has more of the TS feel that her fans love.
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Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2014, 02:04:01 AM
Imogen Heap wrote a blog entry about her collabo with Taylor:
http://imogenheap.com/?article=1321

Great read, thanks! Wish Max did something like this. :)
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Post by: j.fco.morales on November 01, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
So, the thing is: you can get stuck with a song with melody OR lyrics.

And maybe with a beat?
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Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2014, 09:46:55 PM
So, the thing is: you can get stuck with a song with melody OR lyrics.

And maybe with a beat?

I'm off the school of thought that it's melody that attracts people first and foremost. Maybe not all the time for all people, but I think this is true most of the time. I think great and interesting lyrics can absolutely pull someone in, and maybe even sometimes bring them back, but the hook(s) of the song is what will get stuck in someone's head. Personally speaking, I go back and listen to my favorite songs because of the melodies. That doesn't mean lyrics are not important, but take a lyric like "I Kissed A Girl" for example. Most people would agree that the lyric itself contributes to it being a hit. Genius. But that melody. Yeah, it's pretty damn amazing. Go ahead, hum it in your head or out loud. It's there... I Kissed a girl and I liked it.

I also think aspects of a beat can be hooks too, but probably more so synth lines that have hooks to them. With that said, there's plenty of EDM songs that are pretty brilliant at "hooking" the listener with minimal to no lyrics at all.

This is all to say that... whatever makes "Style" a hit with fans, it's probably mostly a combination of both lyrics and melody.

It's all personal opinion anyway, and that's mine.  ;D
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Post by: Rex on November 01, 2014, 11:37:59 PM
My first language isn't english, and i actually start learning it at 17, so i can assure that for most people the melody is the most important part of a song. I did not understand a bit of what Britney sang in baby one more time, but i still liked it
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: georg_e on November 02, 2014, 01:40:38 PM

           "Swiftamine" :-)    Hilarious film short from last night's Saturday NIght Live.......http://headlineplanet.com/home/2014/11/02/snl-prescribes-swiftamine-taylor-swifts-1989-sales-explode/
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: gm33 on November 02, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
The album as a whole is amazing! Masterpiece by both Max and Taylor.

I love Max's bridges and I think Style's is just phenomenal, even though it's just one line: "Take me home." There's something so cool about it that I can't put my finger on.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on November 03, 2014, 10:49:05 PM
"Wonderland" currently my favourite. It's so brilliant!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on November 05, 2014, 05:56:12 AM
It's official: 1.287 million first week sales. Wow.

To put it into perspective, I have compiled these facts:

- It becomes the first album released this year to sell a million copies.
- Only 18 albums have sold a million copies in a week previously. Count that... 18.
- Only 6 albums have sold more than in the first week than 1989. Count that... 6. See them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest-selling_albums  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest-selling_albums)
- The most ever albums sold in the first week by a female act is 1.319 million copies by Britney Spears' Oops! ... I Did It Again in 2000.
- Swift sold 470,000 copies of 1989 at Target, which carried a deluxe edition of the album with six additional tracks. In other words, Swift sold more copies of her album at Target than the year's next-highest debut — Coldplay's Ghost Stories, with 383,000 — sold everywhere.

Incredible.

Some of the above info was sourced from here: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/11/04/taylor-swift-first-week-million-sales/18480613/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/11/04/taylor-swift-first-week-million-sales/18480613/)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on November 05, 2014, 06:44:25 AM
she's gonna be around for decades
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rebecca on November 05, 2014, 10:16:07 AM
Incredible news for Taylor!
and looking at the first week sales in USA, 7 out of 10 are Max related!

1    2000    No Strings Attached    *NSYNC    2,415,859    
2    2001    Celebrity    *NSYNC    1,879,955                           
3    2000    The Marshall Mathers LP    Eminem    1,760,049    
4    2000    Black & Blue    Backstreet Boys    1,591,191    
5    2002    The Eminem Show    Eminem    1,321,799           
6    2000    Oops!... I Did It Again    Britney Spears    1,319,193    
7    2014    1989    Taylor Swift    1,287,000    
8    2012    Red    Taylor Swift    1,208,000    
9    2005    The Massacre    50 Cent    1,140,638    
10    1999    Millennium    Backstreet Boys    1,133,505    
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on November 05, 2014, 11:10:50 AM
Fabulous. Congrats Max!

Btw, the sales for No Strings attached are incredible.

I like all these stats and facts. Thanks for sharing!!!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: J_A24 on November 06, 2014, 08:00:48 PM
The marketing campaign for No Strings Attached was incredible and it sure helped to have such a massive first single and a great follow up in "It's gonna be me".

NSync was everywhere around the corner and on TV.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on November 07, 2014, 05:08:39 PM
If that Nsync's album is the fastest selling, why everybody says it was "The Marshall Mathers LP"?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on November 07, 2014, 05:13:53 PM
If that Nsync's album is the fastest selling, why everybody says it was "The Marshall Mathers LP"?

The eminem album was the last one to sell that much.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on November 09, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
she's gonna be around for decades

LOOOOL hahahaha! XD
I'm laughing so hard right now!! ;D
I loooove these mega-hyped fangirling super-exaggerations SO much!!

This is exactly what Gaga's Little Monsters used to say and were SO sure of after "Fame Monster". And where is she now?  :-X  Cheek to cheek with some old guy but nowhere to be seen either in the radio nor near the top of the charts.  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 09, 2014, 05:31:42 PM
LOOOOL hahahaha! XD
I'm laughing so hard right now!! ;D
I loooove these mega-hyped fangirling super-exaggerations SO much!!

This is exactly what Gaga's Little Monsters used to say and were SO sure of after "Fame Monster". And where is she now?  :-X  Cheek to cheek with some old guy but nowhere to be seen either in the radio nor near the top of the charts.  :-X :-X

And your replying in the same way.
We don't need this in the forum Jules, really.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on November 09, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
And your replying in the same way.
We don't need this in the forum Jules, really.

Yes we do need this in the forum, j.fco, really.

Aren't you listening to me? I told you before: people do have different opinions and they need to discuss them.
This forum doesn't have YOUR opinion only. :-*
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on November 09, 2014, 06:33:56 PM
LOOOOL hahahaha! XD
I'm laughing so hard right now!! ;D
I loooove these mega-hyped fangirling super-exaggerations SO much!!

This is exactly what Gaga's Little Monsters used to say and were SO sure of after "Fame Monster". And where is she now?  :-X  Cheek to cheek with some old guy but nowhere to be seen either in the radio nor near the top of the charts.  :-X :-X

fair enough. i'll see you back here in 2034
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 09, 2014, 06:36:48 PM
I'm respectful when you have an interesting approach about a topic -and you do- but unfortunately, this is not the case.

Laughing at someone is not cool, and that Gaga mention... we're not 14 years old. That's it.

About the thread: am I the only one who's not really into 1989?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on November 09, 2014, 06:41:52 PM
You're no the only one j.fco. I find out really annoying that everywhere on the Internet there's something about Taylor, specially on Billboard, her unofficial sponsor.

1989 is a good album, but nothing new or that is going to change the industry. It's important because pop albums this year were lame in sells, just that.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on November 10, 2014, 07:42:12 PM
Video for "Blank Space" out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ORhEE9VVg&list=UUANLZYMidaCbLQFWXBC95Jg

It's fantastic
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on December 03, 2014, 02:20:15 AM
interesting article: http://thevine.com.au/music/news/number-ones-taylor-swift-shake-it-off-20140902-285861/
Can someone explain me please what a syncopated beat means?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rebecca on December 03, 2014, 10:15:27 AM
thanks, I love the article. It's just annoying that he think that Tik Tok is a Max song.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 03, 2014, 02:44:22 PM
interesting article: http://thevine.com.au/music/news/number-ones-taylor-swift-shake-it-off-20140902-285861/
Can someone explain me please what a syncopated beat means?

A syncope is when you alterate the accent of some rhythm and put it in a place where it's not common, sometimes can feel off beat.
It's really common in many genres actually, specially melodically.

For example: this bassline over that four to the floor beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDuYFONO4QU

That's it.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on December 03, 2014, 05:56:42 PM
Taylor performed "Style" at the VS show. It is a perfect title for the show but I also think it's because that will be the next single.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 03, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
A syncope is when you alterate the accent of some rhythm and put it in a place where it's not common, sometimes can feel off beat.
It's really common in many genres actually, specially melodically.

For example: this bassline over that four to the floor beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDuYFONO4QU

That's it.

i think the beat in this song would fall under that category too? the fourth beat coming in on the offbeat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QUxNSni5SU
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 03, 2014, 06:44:40 PM
Lucky Swedes. Is MXM Tomas also the Maratone Tomas?

https://m.facebook.com/kobaltmusic/photos/a.172991366083475.38112.170332849682660/779277952121477/?type=1&source=46
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Linda on December 04, 2014, 12:58:21 AM
Lucky Swedes. Is MXM Tomas also the Maratone Tomas?

https://m.facebook.com/kobaltmusic/photos/a.172991366083475.38112.170332849682660/779277952121477/?type=1&source=46

Isn't Tomas from Maratone Tom Talomaa
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 05, 2014, 07:10:03 PM
Oh, indeed - could be.


Btw. Shake it off is nominated in three categories for a Grammy.


I think "Song of the year" is a category where the songwriter gets the price.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rebecca on December 05, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Isn't Tomas from Maratone Tom Talomaa

There are 2 Tomas's - Tom Talomaa and also Tomas Ljung - he is the guy that answers emails at Maratone and I think he might help in the studio too.

Anyway, great that Taylor is nominated for some Grammy's. Shake if Off should win.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: ihavemorales on December 11, 2014, 09:36:38 PM
Is it just me or does "Style" rip Katy Perry off from the start? Not even the production, but the annunciation, "belting" (more like screeching for taylor), the "ahhhhs"? I love 1989, but it feels like Teenage Dream-lite.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 12, 2014, 01:33:22 AM
Is it just me or does "Style" rip Katy Perry off from the start? Not even the production, but the annunciation, "belting" (more like screeching for taylor), the "ahhhhs"? I love 1989, but it feels like Teenage Dream-lite.

About what, exactly? I'm curious.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on December 16, 2014, 10:10:13 PM
I think he refers to the backing vocals at the end of the song (The "ahhh" going down"), which may be similar to those used in wide awake - you can hear them better from 3:13 mark. Still, i don't think this is a copy, but just a widely used technique. The instrumental is more similar to Do What U Want by Lady Gaga - Both have that heavy sound in the background i don't know how to describe
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 16, 2014, 10:32:24 PM
After the Katy Perry comparison, I imagined Style being sung by Katy and it sounded much better in my head.

Taylor voice sounds so thin in the recordings...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 17, 2014, 06:53:38 PM
Just like every Taylor Swift album, it was released an official karaoke version, with no lead vocals.

It's available on iTunes.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 17, 2014, 06:54:30 PM
Just like every Taylor Swift album, it was released an official karaoke version, with no lead vocals.

It's available on iTunes.

link?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 17, 2014, 10:25:12 PM
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/taylor-swift-karaoke-1989/id951348926


Great!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 18, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/taylor-swift-karaoke-1989/id951348926


Great!

oh wow, it's official official. i wasn't sure - how did you find this? love how her label released this... gonna enjoy
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 18, 2014, 04:26:54 PM
Of course it's true, I assume we all post reliable information.

Actually, her whole catalogue is available as official karaoke versions.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 19, 2014, 09:18:06 PM
Germany gets a 2-Track physical cd release of "Blank space"

Tracklist:
Blank Space
Blank Space (Clean Version (Revised))


https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/taylor-swift-blank-space/hnum/6641024


Why revised?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 19, 2014, 10:21:10 PM
Oh, no idea about it...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 20, 2014, 09:56:46 PM
anyone know of any download of the official karaoke album?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 21, 2014, 09:10:29 AM
For which country. iTunes link is above.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 23, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
For which country. iTunes link is above.

i mean a free download
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on December 24, 2014, 07:34:38 PM
i mean a free ILLEGAL download

Sad.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: bugmenot on December 24, 2014, 08:04:06 PM
Jules, where are you living?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 24, 2014, 08:07:49 PM
Sad.

i bought the deluxe album, relax.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on December 25, 2014, 07:58:00 AM
Jules, where are you living?

In a country where it's possible to legally buy the music I want to own.



i bought the deluxe album, relax.

And that gives you the right to steal the karaoke album?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: bugmenot on December 25, 2014, 11:05:29 AM
Oh, I thought you living in Versaille.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4128/5189104854_77a6f24c62_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 25, 2014, 02:07:20 PM
More important. Do the sales of the Karaoke album count towards the real album sales?

Are these instrumental versions or Karaoke?

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 25, 2014, 06:04:48 PM
It's the official album with no lead vocals, only BG's.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 25, 2014, 07:24:52 PM
Stupid me, but are these the exact same tracks later the vocals were recorded to? Or did they have other edits?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 25, 2014, 08:35:21 PM
It's the same recording, the official release.

Check the iTunes link you posted above and listen :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on December 27, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
Yes, I know. But I wonder if she sings over the fully produced tracks, or over a track in a earlier production state and all comes together later then?

Btw: They should offer discounts for people who purchased the albums or offer a download code. Nevertheless, we can't allow download links here.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: ray on December 27, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
topic about taylor

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/songwriting/969358-pop-songwriting-masterclass-taylor-swift.html
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on December 30, 2014, 02:01:58 AM
Yaaazzzzz http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6422304/taylor-swifts-next-single-should-be-style
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: RuHa on January 14, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
This page has the instrumentals for the 1989 deluxe album. You have to sign up though to get the link, but it's worth it!  :)
http://thepopzone.net/index.php?/topic/8100-taylor-swift-1989-deluxe-instrumentals/ (http://thepopzone.net/index.php?/topic/8100-taylor-swift-1989-deluxe-instrumentals/)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 14, 2015, 04:02:16 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on January 15, 2015, 03:44:11 PM
Style picking up steam on radio, but still not doing great on Hot 100. That's because Blank Space is still dominating radio, streaming and sales. I think as BS dies down, Style will pick up and reach Top 40 and higher (already is Top 40 on radio).
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on January 25, 2015, 04:05:16 PM
Did not realize this, but apparently Style is not officially impacting radio until February 10. Based on how well it's doing I am pretty sure this song is going to hit #1 sometime in mid-February. Incredible.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on February 10, 2015, 02:15:32 AM
Prediction: Style will be number 1 within the next 2-3 weeks. #1 record #20 for Max.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: klukan on February 10, 2015, 08:49:18 AM
This page has the instrumentals for the 1989 deluxe album. You have to sign up though to get the link, but it's worth it!  :)
http://thepopzone.net/index.php?/topic/8100-taylor-swift-1989-deluxe-instrumentals/ (http://thepopzone.net/index.php?/topic/8100-taylor-swift-1989-deluxe-instrumentals/)

@RuHa - They deleted it. Any chance that you can share with us somehow ?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on February 13, 2015, 03:41:53 PM
Wonder if Max watches the videos to his songs?

http://www.popjustice.com/videos/taylor-swift-style/134330

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on February 20, 2015, 05:32:25 PM
I want to know when they recorded shake it off...
https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/568490755788021760
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: mxmcarl on February 20, 2015, 08:57:01 PM
Conway Studio C in Los Angeles.

If you want to know more you should call and ask for Chris, he runs the place.
+1 (323) 210 5882
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 21, 2015, 04:21:22 PM
I think it's amazing to know the stories behind the songs.
Taylor knows it for sure.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on February 24, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
Conway Studio C in Los Angeles.

If you want to know more you should call and ask for Chris, he runs the place.
+1 (323) 210 5882

Hahaha so i can just call him and ask for the complete story behind 1989? I don't mind paying for an international call...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on February 26, 2015, 08:43:55 AM
Cool performance of “Blank space“ at the Brit awards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsFhmRLfKj4

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on February 26, 2015, 06:43:10 PM
Cool performance of “Blank space“ at the Brit awards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsFhmRLfKj4

Deugh, I don't like it. Seems as if she had just come back home from a date and sings before going to bed. And her voice sounds sooo different, like a 40 yo madam
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 26, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
Her vocals are just impressive.

She did an amazing job, considering her vocals five years ago.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Adam B on February 27, 2015, 12:51:43 AM
Her vocals are just impressive.

She did an amazing job, considering her vocals five years ago.

You realize it's only the verse that are live? And they don't sound 100% live either.

To me she's more talking than singing and just barely hits the right note...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: bugmenot on February 27, 2015, 09:52:41 AM
She sings exactly as I first time saw her with breathless out of tune Back To December / Apologize performance at some show.

She is stabile.  ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 27, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
She's one of those artists who are better in the studio. Like Katy Perry. They need engineering and pitch correction. Their voices are just suited for recording studios.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 27, 2015, 11:04:06 PM
You realize it's only the verse that are live? And they don't sound 100% live either.

To me she's more talking than singing and just barely hits the right note...

It's a live performance: the choruses always have BGVs, even in performances and concerts.
There's some things that you can't do 100% live and it makes sense, in case you want to give a good performance.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on February 28, 2015, 06:47:36 AM
It's a live performance: the choruses always have BGVs, even in performances and concerts.

You've obviously never seen P!NK in concert.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 28, 2015, 08:10:17 PM
No, I haven't. I surely will as soon as I have the opportunity.

My point is there's no big thing about using a backing track, in favour of a good performance.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on March 01, 2015, 03:50:49 AM
No, I haven't. I surely will as soon as I have the opportunity.

There are Blu-ray releases of her concerts.  ;)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on March 01, 2015, 05:26:19 AM
P!nk > Taylor > Katy  ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 01, 2015, 05:28:48 PM
P!nk > Taylor > Katy  ;D

If we're talking pure vocal talent, very few can touch P!nk imo.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Khan9898 on March 02, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
This is slightly off topic but in Style, the verse and bridge sounds very BSBish, and to be specific something that Brian would be doing. I wonder how much writing she's actually doing with Max. A lot of these artists changes a few words and or a line and are credited.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 02, 2015, 06:39:19 PM
In this case in particular, I think she wrote to an Ali Payami track and worked the topline and lyrics with Max and Shellback.

In other cases, like Blank Space or How To Get The Girl, she comes up with the almost finished idea.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Khan9898 on March 02, 2015, 07:01:49 PM
I wonder if in some cases Max picks up the work of Ali and Ilya and makes it "better". I know Max and Rami did this for Shape of My Heart way back when, they bought the rights and did a 180 degrees on the song. He also did the same for "Come Along".

I guess its more of a label thing to send the song to a producer to redo.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 02, 2015, 07:09:44 PM
In this case in particular, I think she wrote to an Ali Payami track and worked the topline and lyrics with Max and Shellback.

In other cases, like Blank Space or How To Get The Girl, she comes up with the almost finished idea.

Curious where you got this info? Would love to read!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 03, 2015, 06:02:42 AM
Curious where you got this info? Would love to read!

It's what I think it happened, with Love Me Harder -another Ali Payami track- being recorded/written around the same time... no sources, just my opinion.
If you listen to the voice memos, she said the songs came from different places and she started writing to a track, so it makes sense.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on March 03, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
In this case in particular, I think she wrote to an Ali Payami track and worked the topline and lyrics with Max and Shellback.

In other cases, like Blank Space or How To Get The Girl, she comes up with the almost finished idea.

I'm sceptic. As Max doesn't seem to like writing to track, and as he had this level of involvement in this project from the get go, I figure she only really wrote to track on the Antonoff songs. I'm guessing they wrote in LA, maybe Taylor wrote most of it, I don't know - but it think the production was done post writing.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 03, 2015, 05:16:54 PM
There are certain things that I would almost bet are Max. The hook of Love Me Harder and How You Get the Girl being in that category.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 03, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
I'm sceptic. As Max doesn't seem to like writing to track, and as he had this level of involvement in this project from the get go, I figure she only really wrote to track on the Antonoff songs. I'm guessing they wrote in LA, maybe Taylor wrote most of it, I don't know - but it think the production was done post writing.

I tend to think they had the Ali Payami track -because of the many similarities with Love Me Harder, the songwriting/melodic approach it's way different from his previous catalogue- and them added some parts and extra production post writing, just like you said.

I want to make sure guys, we're based on assumptions.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 08, 2015, 05:33:14 PM
"Style" will be #1 on radio this upcoming week, finally knocking off "Uptown Funk" from the top spot. It's taking a little longer to hit #1 Hot 100 because of Uptown Funk's success as well as other big records out at the same time (Ellie, Maroon 5, etc). I would not be surprised to see either combination of "Style" and "Love Me Like You Do" as #1 and #2. Ellie's record is doing better in terms of digital sales at the moment and picking up more steam on radio.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 15, 2015, 02:30:45 PM
Officially the #1 song on Top 40 radio. I wonder how many that makes for Max?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on March 18, 2015, 05:35:40 PM
Does anyone hear any similarities between the verses in Bad blood and those in ET? I find them quite alike
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on March 18, 2015, 08:49:35 PM
Does anyone hear any similarities between the verses in Bad blood and those in ET? I find them quite alike

LOOOOL earlier today when I listened to it I was thinking "how come noone on the forum has posted/noticed that BB is a total rip off of ET??" xD
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on March 18, 2015, 09:37:31 PM
Maybe it was exactly the intention, as the song is about Katy apparently.

It's amazing how Max is cool with all these artists beyond fights and rivalry.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: B Steady on March 18, 2015, 11:35:19 PM
this is a silly comparison. the melodies are far from being the same and with the harmonic context it's a complete different feeling

btw: how can it be that Style is by far the most popular Max song of this album? :o :o :o to me it's by far his worst one on this record smh
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 19, 2015, 02:04:16 AM
I wonder which song will be the next single.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 19, 2015, 03:16:08 PM
It's only similar rhythmically, not melodically.

Style has grown on me a little bit, still not my fave on the album.

They are likely testing the next single now. My pick would be Bad Blood for sure.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on March 19, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
My wish (unrealistic)

Wonderland is the next single. A version with a Avril Lavigne featuring.
I already hear her singing the "Ehhh Eeehh"

Btw - Rihanna could do that too.  :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: B Steady on March 19, 2015, 04:21:09 PM
It's only similar rhythmically, not melodically.

Style has grown on me a little bit, still not my fave on the album.

They are likely testing the next single now. My pick would be Bad Blood for sure.

wow, I agree with every single word of your post !!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Rex on March 19, 2015, 05:13:04 PM
Yeah I didn't mean they were the same thing but sounded similar. I don't like bad blood as the next single, but there are some rumors: http://www.gigwise.com/news/98382/kanye-west-taylor-swift-collaboration-rumoured
I would choose Wildest dreams, since it charted on billboard when it was released along the album and wasn't even a promotional single + it'd be a sound shift from the previous singles.

PD: Someone please take Uptown out of the top, i can't stand it no longer
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: uberweiss on March 20, 2015, 01:45:38 AM
Style is Taylor's 3rd pop radio #1 in a row.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on March 21, 2015, 01:36:18 AM
wow, I agree with every single word of your post !!!

Great minds think alike  ;D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 09, 2015, 07:16:30 PM
Taylor's mom has cancer.

http://taylorswift.tumblr.com/post/115942142045/just-so-you-know
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: B Steady on April 09, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Taylor's mom has cancer.

http://taylorswift.tumblr.com/post/115942142045/just-so-you-know

I'd consider this the less important part of her post
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: sweetmelody on April 24, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
Bad Blood will be the next single.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on April 24, 2015, 07:23:01 PM
It sounds like a good choice but you never know. I still can't understand why "Style" wasn't a major hit.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 24, 2015, 07:26:10 PM
I think Style appeals to other kind of listener: lots of my indie-alternative music like the song and at the same time, they're not really into her pop catalogue.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: gm33 on May 18, 2015, 02:35:36 AM
Well, Bad Blood is officially the next single. Video released today.

Taylor just won a Billboard music award. She's so awesome  --  she's literally one of the only artists that always mentions Max Martin and Shellback by name when she wins an award. Definitely one the top, if not the top, artist that appreciates working with Max the most.
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Post by: bugmenot on May 18, 2015, 06:54:11 AM
artist that appreciates working with Max the most

written by teenager swiftie.

why swifties always neglecting other artists? why so much hate?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: B Steady on May 18, 2015, 09:06:07 AM
the title of this thread is hilarious considering 1989 is out for more than half a year already :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on May 18, 2015, 10:00:00 AM
written by teenager swiftie.

why swifties always neglecting other artists? why so much hate?

Hate? How was that comment by gm33 hateful at all?
The only one who's hating is obviously you by addressing gm33 like that.

I'm not a Taylor fan, but there was really NOTHING harmful about that post.  ???
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: B Steady on May 18, 2015, 10:02:17 AM
Hate? How was that comment by gm33 hateful at all?
The only one who's hating is obviously you by addressing gm33 like that.

I'm not a Taylor fan, but there was really NOTHING harmful about that post.  ???

haha yeah I was thinking the same ;D

btw you posted that comment exactly at 10:00:00 am! yesterday sweetmelody posted at exactly at 10:00:00 pm. that is crazy!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: turnaround on May 18, 2015, 12:55:00 PM
So anyone prefers the new version feat. Kendrick Lamar? I rather stick to the album version. The song isn't a favourite of mine anyway.

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: Jules on May 18, 2015, 02:31:19 PM
haha yeah I was thinking the same ;D

btw you posted that comment exactly at 10:00:00 am! yesterday shockdion posted at exactly at 10:00:00 pm. that is crazy!

Rather scary.  :o :P
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Out Of the Woods (Max Martin - Vocal Producer)
Post by: gm33 on May 18, 2015, 03:47:23 PM
written by teenager swiftie.

why swifties always neglecting other artists? why so much hate?

Wasn't meant to be hateful at all! I usually watch award speeches by Max Martin artists and Taylor is the only one that mentions Max in almost every acceptance speech. It's awesome.

Also: Album version is so much better.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 18, 2015, 03:48:02 PM
http://www.vevo.com/watch/taylor-swift/Bad-Blood/USCJY1531563

I wonder if Max has produced this remix. Quite a few changes.

Want this new version without the rap part.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 18, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
I love Taylor, but I'm not really feeling this pop thing.
I miss her depth on the lyrics.

And I absolutely love how thankful she is about her collaborators: she's clear about its influence in her work and how appreciative she is about it.

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: ShockdioN on May 18, 2015, 08:00:55 PM
I wonder who made the remix..
I love the video though :D
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on May 18, 2015, 08:32:30 PM
I'm pretty sure Ilya was involved. He shared the iTunes link which he typically does if it's his song. Unless he is just being supportive, I think he was involved. Would be good to know.

I'm a fan of Kendrick and this was my favorite record on 1989, so I do like this. I think it'll go #1. Still prefer the album version but that's probably because I've heard it many times.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: ShockdioN on May 18, 2015, 11:51:47 PM
I saw someone post this on ILYA's facebook page:



Quote
Alni Sharifpour
5 hrs ·
Whaaaaaat! Ännu en hit gjord bland annat utav floden IIlyamed Taylor swift Ft Kendrick Lamar
http://youtu.be/QcIy9NiNbmo

I think we got it confirmed now that it was made by ILYA :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on May 19, 2015, 07:41:33 AM
Well it'll be nice after this kind of hard-hitting (for Taylor's standards), somewhat aggressive single, with the assist from Kendrick Lamar, to get one of the more sugary sweet tracks from 1989.

I'm thinking it'd be awesome to see her release All You Had To Do Was Stay or How You Get The Girl. those two sort of harken to Taylor's original bubbly, girly and confessional sound. They're also great pop songs. Totally fit for radio.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on May 19, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
I'll never understand how AYHTDWS wasn't among the first 3 singles.

Kendrick killed that first verse!!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on May 19, 2015, 08:44:17 AM
I saw someone post this on ILYA's facebook page



I think we got it confirmed now that it was made by ILYA :)

Yes, he also spoke of "We are #1 on iTunes" and mentioned Shellback and MaximusMartin.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: Jules on May 19, 2015, 02:50:27 PM
Kendrick killed that first verse!!!

He literally did.
He killed a good song.  :-\
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on May 19, 2015, 04:28:06 PM
He killed a good song.  :-\

in this case it's Ilya
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: ShockdioN on May 19, 2015, 11:41:41 PM
I love this remix !!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on May 26, 2015, 09:14:22 AM
You Are In Love sounds pretty similar to Bruce Springsteen's Secret Garden!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on June 09, 2015, 06:22:42 PM
Apparently some radios play the rap-less new version. I really hope they will release this too.

http://www.josepvinaixa.com/blog/taylor-swift-bad-blood-remix
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: ShockdioN on June 09, 2015, 08:45:39 PM
I want it !
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: gm33 on July 27, 2015, 03:35:11 AM
Went to the 1989 concert last night -- PHENOMENAL! (Some photos of the concert: http://imgur.com/a/BlTGd)

Just wanted to say that during the concert she plays videos of making the album and pretty prominently plays clips of Shellback and Max and calls them out by name a few times. Pretty awesome! :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: bugmenot on July 27, 2015, 06:05:20 AM
Is she calls them Shellback and Max?
I hear so but it's not their names.

You didn't captured clips? Please, upload.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 27, 2015, 07:15:36 AM
Max and Johan, that's how she calls them.

Three opening acts. I'd love to see HAIM though.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: gm33 on July 27, 2015, 03:35:20 PM
This is the video she plays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvh84nd4mtM
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on July 27, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
I love these sequences. Especially the last one with Max singing.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on August 05, 2015, 09:50:41 AM
Wildest Dreams is going to be the next single. Beautiful pop song, great choice.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: Khan9898 on August 05, 2015, 06:28:31 PM
I wish BSB could do a live and or studio cover of Style. I feel like Brian would kill the song as I'm sure many people on here could here and see the guys singing this track.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on August 05, 2015, 06:45:06 PM
I wonder if they do a special version of "Wildest Dreams", a special feature?

It's the not so obvious hit single choice in my opinion.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on August 07, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
I wish BSB could do a live and or studio cover of Style. I feel like Brian would kill the song as I'm sure many people on here could here and see the guys singing this track.

unfortunately Brian isn't able anymore to kill a song
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 07, 2015, 09:00:38 PM
I agree it's not a obvious single choice, but at this point of success she can do whatever she wants.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: Rebecca on August 08, 2015, 12:25:41 PM
I love Wildest Dreams. I think it's a great choice.

I love those videos too, especially the one with Max at the end.

I read today that Ryan Adams is recording the whole 1989 album:
http://www.noise11.com/news/ryan-adams-to-cover-taylor-swifts-1989-album-20150807

bizarre, but I will look out for it.



Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 10, 2015, 06:17:54 AM
I read today that Ryan Adams is recording the whole 1989 album:
http://www.noise11.com/news/ryan-adams-to-cover-taylor-swifts-1989-album-20150807

bizarre, but I will look out for it.

That's what he wants to: attention.

The thing is: lots of songs in 1989 are great songs but are not taken seriously because pop is not serious music to a lot of people.
I'd love the hear the songs with new arrangements.

Update: http://www.stereogum.com/1822638/preview-ryan-adams-heartbreaker-style-cover-of-taylor-swifts-bad-blood/video/
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 18, 2015, 05:21:58 AM
http://www.stereogum.com/1824747/preview-ryan-adams-cover-of-taylor-swifts-style/mp3s/
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: gm33 on August 26, 2015, 03:08:40 AM
I LOVE the Wildest Dreams Radio Mix!

Do we have any info on who produced it?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: ShockdioN on August 26, 2015, 11:41:52 AM
I LOVE the Wildest Dreams Radio Mix!

Do we have any info on who produced it?

can u find it on youtube?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 26, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
can u find it on youtube?

it's streaming here: https://jams.to/2015/08/taylor-swift-wildest-dreams-radio-edit/
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: uberweiss on August 26, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
Max was at her show last night.

https://igcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e35/11899639_485306904962311_1344377906_n.jpg
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on August 27, 2015, 01:22:20 AM
As far as I know the radio mix was Max/Shellback. I think this one has a shot at #1.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 27, 2015, 07:11:24 PM
At this point, Taylor can fart and make a single out of it and have a #1 single.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on August 27, 2015, 08:32:20 PM
At this point, Taylor can fart and make a single out of it and have a #1 single.

Pretty much, although Style "only" peaked at 6.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 27, 2015, 09:40:34 PM
Pretty much, although Style "only" peaked at 6.

As I said before, I don't reduce things to sales numbers and radio play.
But if you like to talk about numbers, let's wait until we get the numbers about concert revenues next year.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 28, 2015, 05:06:21 AM
i mean, i heard Style on the radio every time I turned it on, and i barely ever listen to radio.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on August 28, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
I put only in quotations because it was a joke. Anyone would be happy with that position.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 28, 2015, 08:08:37 PM
Actually, we could live from royalties our whole lives with a #6.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on August 28, 2015, 08:18:35 PM
Actually, we could live from royalties our whole lives with a #6.

Indeed, very true!

To your point that anything Taylor puts out is going to be successful: yes of course, this is true. To bring up another point you made, it's not just about numbers, it's the quality of the records. I still feel the quality of the songs on 1989 are simply amazing, whether it's Taylor Swift or not. Take the names and numbers out of the equation and it's one of, if not the best albums this year.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 28, 2015, 09:40:23 PM
The thing is: I'm stuck with her country albums. The songwriting is a leap back, but it's OK for pop standards.

I'm not a big fan of 1989, songwriting wise. Even me, being a 30 years old guy, could relate to her songwriting.
Taylor wrote some amazing lyrics -man, All Too Well, I Almost Do, Fifteen, Begin Again- and to me, 1989 it's not up to her previous work.

Or maybe I tend to like people telling stories with a guitar instead of a pop star with glitter and pyro.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on August 29, 2015, 02:27:26 AM
The thing is: I'm stuck with her country albums. The songwriting is a leap back, but it's OK for pop standards.

I'm not a big fan of 1989, songwriting wise. Even me, being a 30 years old guy, could relate to her songwriting.
Taylor wrote some amazing lyrics -man, All Too Well, I Almost Do, Fifteen, Begin Again- and to me, 1989 it's not up to her previous work.

Or maybe I tend to like people telling stories with a guitar instead of a pop star with glitter and pyro.

I disagree, respectfully. The songwriting from a pop perspective is amazing. It's not just OK for pop standards. It's really, really superior melodic work. I am of the mindset that writing great pop music is the hardest thing to do. I do respect country songwriting, but it's completely, completely different. It's about the lyrics, the story. Pop is simplicity and melody. Taylor, Max and Shellback KILLED it.

That's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on August 29, 2015, 11:14:22 AM
I disagree, respectfully. The songwriting from a pop perspective is amazing. It's not just OK for pop standards. It's really, really superior melodic work. I am of the mindset that writing great pop music is the hardest thing to do. I do respect country songwriting, but it's completely, completely different. It's about the lyrics, the story. Pop is simplicity and melody. Taylor, Max and Shellback KILLED it.

That's just my opinion.

+1
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 29, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Yeah, I know. Just different approaches to the same thing :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on August 31, 2015, 05:59:21 AM
The video for Wildest Dreams is out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdneKLhsWOQ&sns=fb
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on September 07, 2015, 10:09:37 PM
what do you guys think of the single mix production?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on September 11, 2015, 10:27:16 PM
what do you guys think of the single mix production?

It's fantastic. Just a really well crafted song and production. Doesn't get in the way, supports the melody and vocal performance.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 12, 2015, 02:56:50 AM
Which are the differences? The "single mix" is the version in the video?
Haven't heard it properly.

By the way, 1989 tour is the higher grossing tour of the year.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on September 12, 2015, 10:06:07 AM
yes, video is the same as the single mix. they programmed additional drums for it. and I think they added an additional bar around the mid 8.
the final chorus contains an actual snare sound now.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: sweetmelody on September 12, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
By the way, 1989 tour is the higher grossing tour of the year.

What a year she had. Simply incredible.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: B Steady on September 12, 2015, 05:45:04 PM


By the way, 1989 tour is the higher grossing tour of the year.

compared to which tour?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 13, 2015, 06:11:05 PM
compared to which tour?

Compared to any musician in the world touring.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6692470/taylor-swift-1989-world-tour-130-million
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on September 19, 2015, 06:08:11 PM
The first Ryan Adams version has been released. Funnily it's on spotify.

"Bad Blood"

https://open.spotify.com/track/2T7SaDvqPjDAareMtwEbbW
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 20, 2015, 11:52:20 PM
The first Ryan Adams version has been released. Funnily it's on spotify.

"Bad Blood"

https://open.spotify.com/track/2T7SaDvqPjDAareMtwEbbW

The album is out.
This is going to blow it everywhere.
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Post by: turnaround on September 29, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
"Wildest dreams" made it to #10. Yet another one. Well done.

Do you think there will be another one?
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Post by: Eddie Krommer on September 29, 2015, 10:15:39 PM
I think she's going after the "most top ten hits from one album" record.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on September 29, 2015, 11:13:56 PM
"Wildest dreams" made it to #10. Yet another one. Well done.

Do you think there will be another one?

That's for sure.

Did anyone listen the Ryan Adams record? It's huge.
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Post by: volkanyurdabak on September 29, 2015, 11:39:05 PM
All You Had To Do Was Stay, Wonderland and How You Get The Girl are the potential top 10s.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 09, 2015, 05:14:22 AM
https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/video/listening-session-taylor-swift-1989-part-1

Taylor talking about 1989.
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Post by: bugmenot on October 09, 2015, 08:51:12 AM
Why Grammy didn't invite Martin and Shellback?
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Post by: turnaround on October 09, 2015, 03:33:41 PM
That would be a dream. But it's nice to hear Taylor Swift about the making of.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 09, 2015, 05:52:15 PM
Max doesn't do interviews.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 14, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
Part 2 and 3 are out:

https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/video/listening-session-taylor-swift-1989-part-2

https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/video/listening-session-taylor-swift-1989-part-3
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Post by: turnaround on October 15, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
"Wildest dreams" has an official remix:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wildest-dreams-r3hab-remix/id1049605375

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Post by: j.fco.morales on October 19, 2015, 07:37:15 PM
http://pitchfork.com/news/61692-ryan-adams-chats-with-taylor-swift-about-songwriting-siri-the-smiths/

Ryan Adams and Taylor talking about songwriting.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 08, 2015, 06:05:22 PM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/6785979/jared-leto-taylor-swift-1989-listening-video-studio
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 08, 2015, 07:07:31 PM
Really? Who the fuck cares what he thinks
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Post by: bugmenot on December 09, 2015, 09:46:51 AM
It's very interesting he didn't listened it before.
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Post by: turnaround on January 01, 2016, 01:22:22 PM
Out of the woods - the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLf9q36UsBk
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Post by: Rebecca on January 02, 2016, 10:57:48 AM
Incredible video! and Joseph Kahn again too - he is amazing.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on January 02, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Love the song: reminds me of CHVRCHES.
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Post by: turnaround on January 04, 2016, 04:51:54 PM
The wolves in the video, they remind me of Twilight and Taylor Lautner, her ex ;)
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Post by: j.fco.morales on January 09, 2016, 04:59:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Zt47V3pPw

On September 30, 2015, Taylor Swift celebrated her record-breaking attendance exhibit at the GRAMMY Museum, with an intimate performance at the Clive Davis Theater. Watch Taylor perform a solo acoustic version of "Blank Space" from "1989," a GRAMMY Album of the Year nominee. For more information about the GRAMMY Museum's programs and exhibits, visit www.grammymuseum.org.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on January 28, 2016, 06:29:27 PM
The whole interview at Grammy Museum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sABeEqcjcAQ
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Post by: j.fco.morales on February 21, 2016, 09:41:07 PM
http://www.idolator.com/7624249/taylor-swift-1989-single-new-romantics

I'm not really sure about the single choice, but I wasn't sure about Wildest Moments and ended up loving it.
Speaking about Wildest Dreams, does anyone know Lana del Rey's Without You?

Listen to the chorus at 0:35: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQi-lICiXU
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Post by: DashD on February 22, 2016, 04:48:28 PM
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Listen to the chorus at 0:35: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzQi-lICiXU

Excellent find!

I always enjoy finding such similarities between songs, not accusing anyone of plagiarism though. E.g. ...

0:41 of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-zpOMYRi0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-zpOMYRi0w)
vs.
1:11 of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcIy9NiNbmo)

or

2:51 of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8BRvqGCNs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF8BRvqGCNs)
vs.
0:20 of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXoWg08pwiQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXoWg08pwiQ)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 16, 2017, 05:05:59 AM
The Shake It Off multitrack is available on reddit, in case you guys are interested.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on April 21, 2017, 12:17:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=damt9eQ_2Js

How Taylor Swift Writes Melodies | Holistic Songwriting S1E1
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Post by: nanofives on April 22, 2017, 02:27:32 AM
I wonder why he never mentioned all the arrangements that could possibly fit in one note when talking about vocal production.
Repetition, echoing, pitchshift, whatever, these things makes always the difference and Max is very good at it.
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Post by: bugmenot on April 22, 2017, 08:11:48 AM
I wonder why he never mentioned all the arrangements

Because his blog-title is "Songwriting".
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 22, 2017, 06:21:09 PM
It makes sense, isn't it?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - Bad Blood (feat. Kendrick Lamar) from Album 1989 (Max Martin)
Post by: turnaround on June 20, 2017, 09:21:18 PM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7834065/taylor-swift-streaming-return-four-albums-billboard-200


Taylor Swift Sees 4 Albums Back on Billboard 200 After Streaming Return

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Post by: turnaround on December 28, 2018, 12:07:45 AM
Special release with commentary