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Title: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 01, 2014, 02:04:06 PM
Hey guys I've found some Stabs or Orchestra Hits that are used on most part of Cheiron productions.

They're all from Roland stuff and previews available on synthmania.com just make a search on google with words synthmania and the name of any of the following instruments name:

056 OrchestraHit
070 4 Hits 4 You
073 Tekno Hit 1
074 Tekno Hit 2
075 Tekno Hit 3
110 Triumph Stab
111 Street Stab

Also the Downtown Beat from PowerFX is available here: http://powerfx.com/products/989253403
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 01, 2014, 03:52:32 PM
do you want these sounds cause i can try to sample these sounds from the roland JV for you for kontakt!

but it will take some time.

also please tell me if you need more sounds from the expansion boards.

just write the patch number
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 01, 2014, 04:04:35 PM
Also the reverse is 076 Reverse Hit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZgcBUCyMI4

Would be great if you could rip 070, 071, 073, 074, 075 and 076.

I don't know if there's other sounds used by Max Martin I haven't really listened to all of them...
Anyway you can just upload wavs I don't use Kontact, so u can avoid to waist time doing the whole Kontact thing ;)

Also the kind of reverb effect under then snare (actually the real one, without the snare, because I noticed a lot of people sampled the one from Oops!...I Did It Again instrumental), used in different Cheiron songs would be great too...if it has been identified.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 01, 2014, 07:47:34 PM
it will be hard to find the sonar ping sound
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 01, 2014, 07:59:45 PM
I have one but I doubt it's the same

https://soundcloud.com/gaetano-russello/sonar-ping/s-w8YvH
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 01, 2014, 10:13:21 PM
I have one but I doubt it's the same

https://soundcloud.com/gaetano-russello/sonar-ping/s-w8YvH

is that the sonar ping from nexus expansions?

 :)
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 01, 2014, 11:13:33 PM
is that the sonar ping from nexus expansions?

 :)

Actually I noticed u posted it on another forum ahahah but I don't think it's the real deal...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 02, 2014, 12:36:43 AM
Actually I noticed u posted it on another forum ahahah but I don't think it's the real deal...

of  course.. its not the real deal.

but i think its impossible to know where this sounds comes from if we not ask max himself
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 02, 2014, 01:42:51 AM
Or listen to the whole presets in the instrumentations xD
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 02, 2014, 01:13:53 PM
On other messages I've found someone talking about the bang and baow by Oops I Did It Again.

The "bang" (or Piano Attack, as named in some multitracks) is said to be done by mixing

jv2080 "power piano" and Akai S3000 preset "QC - Drone"

The "baoww" sound (I think they mean the Larger Than Life intro effect or the fx under that "voice")  is from sound module Emu Audity2000 - preset N33.
Is someone able to check it?

Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 02, 2014, 03:00:37 PM
On other messages I've found someone talking about the bang and baow by Oops I Did It Again.

The "bang" (or Piano Attack, as named in some multitracks) is said to be done by mixing

jv2080 "power piano" and Akai S3000 preset "QC - Drone"

The "baoww" sound (I think they mean the Larger Than Life intro effect or the fx under that "voice")  is from sound module Emu Audity2000 - preset N33.
Is someone able to check it?

i dont have emu audity but i have proteus2000, emu mo phatt, vintage keys, extreme lead, planet phatt, virtouso.

the thing is called backstreet bass

im gonna try to check with emu audity maybe..

what is the piano attack sound? can someone upload an example of it.

there is also one more sound im interested in its called the synth sound.

in this video you can heart it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhwj_zb77fU&list=UUsiSmzL5G7VS_pfKMXqmcjw
0.21 seconds its like an arp beep beep sound
and 2.10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJWtLf4-WWs

its funnny but all the sounds come from EMU modules that were created around 2001 or 2000. so we have all the sounds
now im wondering if max martin is using the latest gear to make new sounds for his songs if u know what i mean.

Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 02, 2014, 03:53:35 PM
This is the Piano Attacks that comes from Rami's "What makes you beautiful" multitracks and it's the sound that appears also in most part of Cheiron songs

https://soundcloud.com/gaetano-russello/piano-attacks/s-IN8QG
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 02, 2014, 08:29:54 PM
i tought it was baby one more time piano hit sound
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: rhythmic5 on May 04, 2014, 02:30:13 AM
This is the Piano Attacks that comes from Rami's "What makes you beautiful" multitracks and it's the sound that appears also in most part of Cheiron songs

https://soundcloud.com/gaetano-russello/piano-attacks/s-IN8QG

thats funny, I never realized they layered that sound under the chorus
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 04, 2014, 05:19:53 PM
here is the backstreet boys baww bass

http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/74205686/file.html

enjoy
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on May 04, 2014, 05:29:29 PM
Someone knows the hit sound in britney spears stronger? I think its a guitar sound but i heard it was a fog horn.

HERE is my attempt to recreate that sound
https://soundcloud.com/nznexus2/britney-spears-stronger-gt-hit

i distorted the guitar thru amp farm
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 04, 2014, 11:46:56 PM
here is the backstreet boys baww bass

http://www55.z*ppyshare.com/v/74205686/file.html

enjoy

Yeah but this is from Larger Than Life (Instrumental).
I wanted the real deal... :( that contrary to what Max said...this (Emu Audity2000 - preset N33) could be real deal.

Someone knows the hit sound in britney spears stronger? I think its a guitar sound but i heard it was a fog horn.

HERE is my attempt to recreate that sound
https://soundcloud.com/nznexus2/britney-spears-stronger-gt-hit

i distorted the guitar thru amp farm

Wow this sounds like the real deal :D
Congratulations... :)
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on May 28, 2014, 03:01:55 PM
http://www.synthmania.com/juno-106.htm

Factory Preset Group B - 73 Mew Bass used on Overprotected
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Michael Rodion on June 01, 2014, 02:15:01 PM
nih, cheiron loop!
https://soundcloud.com/michaelrodion/cheiron-loop
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 01, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
nih, cheiron loop!
https://soundcloud.com/michaelrodion/cheiron-loop

Can u please share the stuff from ur Loops and "demos"? :(
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 01, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
nih, cheiron loop!
https://soundcloud.com/michaelrodion/cheiron-loop

nice
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Michael Rodion on June 01, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
http://www.4shared.com/rar/hYMQCJ7Uba/drum.html?

http://www.4shared.com/rar/dpo_VqGdce/instumrental.html?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 02, 2014, 11:30:38 AM
But u're using samples from finished songs...not the single unlayered sound...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Michael Rodion on June 02, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
BIARIN CHOOYYYY
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 02, 2014, 08:54:33 PM
BIARIN CHOOYYYY

??
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 03, 2014, 09:33:09 AM
O.o
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 03, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
wut ?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 04, 2014, 12:39:11 AM
IDK what he means...

Anyway I got info about the FX under the snare used in a lot of Cheiron songs.
I've talked with some one from Maratone and he told me that they have all the JV 2080 expansions so the FX comes from there...it reminded a lot the Manic Shots so my feeling about it coming from there was true...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 04, 2014, 04:38:53 PM
oh ok.

did u ask him what expansion it was coming from?

Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 04, 2014, 07:50:24 PM
Did you speak to tom talooma from maratone..  i bet it was him!
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 04, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
Yeah I asked him to be more accurate and I'm waiting for reply.
Yes. He was Tomas :)
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 04, 2014, 09:57:29 PM
Its nice of him to answer personally. and not holding back. or tell its a secret
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 04, 2014, 10:54:43 PM
I hate this it's a secret thing...I mean it's something that is in the instrument equipe...I don't understand why they don't tell it publicly the name of the sound...I've passed days downloading and listening clips from Synthmania but not all the patches and present are previewed...

I've also asked to Per Magnusson but he read the message without answer :'(
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 05, 2014, 06:02:10 PM
I don't think they reply because looks A LOT like a stalker.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 05, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
I don't think they reply because looks A LOT like a stalker.

It's all in the mind
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 06, 2014, 01:04:27 AM
Sure probably they read that question timea and times again...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 11, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
I got information about the snare FX from Per Magnusson directly.

They used to call the FX with the name of Sonar. He has no idea where the original thing come from but basically it was a pitched down submarine sonar and most part of the Drums and FX sounds (for drums I guess) were taken from Akai S1100 and S3000.
He pointed that obviously he's not using Akai anymore.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on June 15, 2014, 11:07:59 PM
WTF thats crazy? So that is a sample of a sound ...


but you could google a sonar ping sound and download and then layer with whatever snare u want
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 16, 2014, 10:57:40 AM
Actually I did searched for a Sonar Ping but actuallyif I try to pitch down I don't get the same result...I guess he hinted that the sonar ping is from Akai and then they pitched it down. But I've also searched for the words roland sonar ping and it actually has a sonar ping patch for a roland...I don't know how it sounds like because there's no preview sample...
But I guess all the drums and drums FX sets are taken from Akai as hinted by Per..

At thins point I don't know who believe...Tomas from Maratone or Per Magnusson..
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on July 13, 2014, 09:01:14 PM
Hey guys I've found some Stabs or Orchestra Hits that are used on most part of Cheiron productions.

They're all from Roland stuff and previews available on synthmania.com just make a search on google with words synthmania and the name of any of the following instruments name:

056 OrchestraHit
070 4 Hits 4 You
073 Tekno Hit 1
074 Tekno Hit 2
075 Tekno Hit 3
110 Triumph Stab
111 Street Stab

Also the Downtown Beat from PowerFX is available here: http://powerfx.com/products/989253403

I have downtown beats already
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on July 13, 2014, 09:08:16 PM
But u're using samples from finished songs...not the single unlayered sound...

It appears he doesn't have much of a choice.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: DSonthebeat on November 08, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
Hi guys, any chance to have the wavs of those hits to make some kontakt patches?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Hazel_Scorpion on May 01, 2015, 01:28:27 AM
Found this earlier this week.
http://vst-store.com/products/kontakt-instruments/roland-xp-80-nki.html

Finally have the sounds  :) Was so close to actually buying a jv1080
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 03, 2015, 08:52:35 PM
Found this earlier this week.
http://vst-store.com/products/kontakt-instruments/roland-xp-80-nki.html

Finally have the sounds  :) Was so close to actually buying a jv1080

Which one??
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Hazel_Scorpion on June 12, 2015, 08:31:00 PM
Which one??

All of the sounds mentioned in the original post.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 17, 2015, 09:03:12 AM
All of the sounds mentioned in the original post.

Yep found that too.
But there'a lot more missing because after using these samples he started layering pianos to create other stabs but they're hard to find.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Cristiano on October 07, 2015, 09:53:01 PM
I'm not sure if this was noticed before, but the "sonar ping" you all seem to be looking for was used in the beginning of Oops!...I Did It Again (I think) right before the drums start to kick in; however, it was in reverse.  Just something I noticed, here I took it from the song and reversed it for you all.  You're gonna have to pitch it or something.

https://soundcloud.com/cristiavano/sonar-ping-oops/s-vD8dd

?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on July 12, 2016, 07:03:07 AM
here is the backstreet boys baww bass

http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/74205686/file.html

enjoy

Uh-oh, it doesn't show up!
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 13, 2016, 03:16:36 AM
That sound is a piano stab and a talkbox.

Bon Jovi did it first.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: nznexus on January 16, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
the sonar ping is from NORD LEAD 2. i got it in 3 versions
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on January 16, 2017, 01:46:42 PM
Are u sure? Wavs wavs wavs  :o :o
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on April 03, 2017, 02:47:55 AM
On other messages I've found someone talking about the bang and baow by Oops I Did It Again.

The "bang" (or Piano Attack, as named in some multitracks) is said to be done by mixing

jv2080 "power piano" and Akai S3000 preset "QC - Drone"

The "baoww" sound (I think they mean the Larger Than Life intro effect or the fx under that "voice")  is from sound module Emu Audity2000 - preset N33.
Is someone able to check it?
I can't find it on synthmania, the power piano. Which preset bank is it in?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on April 22, 2017, 08:58:38 PM
That sound is a piano stab and a talkbox.

Bon Jovi did it first.

What keyboard did said piano stab come from?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on April 23, 2017, 09:22:26 PM
What keyboard did said piano stab come from?

I guess it is jv2080 "power piano" and Akai S3000 preset "QC - Drone". I'm not really sure...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on April 25, 2017, 08:05:40 PM
I guess it is jv2080 "power piano" and Akai S3000 preset "QC - Drone". I'm not really sure...

Funny you'd say that, as I can't seem to find any audio examples of said synths. But, I did find this pack. http://store.payloadz.com/details/748337-music-soundbanks-roland-jv-2080-wave-samples-with-kontakt-files-.html 
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on April 27, 2017, 08:28:38 AM
I don't know if they'll workshop together...I never found sample from those 2 things
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on April 28, 2017, 11:49:43 PM
Alright, so I've been looking into the akai s3000 it appears that its samples come from some floppy discs along with some preloaded sounds. Is qc-drone a preloaded sample? Or does it come from a floppy disk? If so, then which one?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on June 10, 2017, 09:54:49 AM
I don't know i found these info online...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Cooleyocity on July 20, 2017, 08:26:47 PM
I just wanted to chime in, You can actually find a lot of the synth stabs as well as the original drum loop for "You drive me Crazy" and "Show me Love" in an Ueberschall product called "Essentials of the Order". You will recognize a lot of stuff in that pack from music from the 90's. Just an FYI.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on July 23, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
Haven't found the sample pack in WAV  :'(
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Juljan on July 24, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
Only for half of the price now: http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?1;36;1::::::::::::Essentials%20of%20the%20Order:1463 .
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Cooleyocity on July 24, 2017, 05:32:37 PM
"Haven't found the sample pack in WAV  :'("

RE: Once you have bought the pack, there are instructions on how to export files into WAV format from the Elastik player.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on November 13, 2017, 12:00:00 AM
Hey guys I've found some Stabs or Orchestra Hits that are used on most part of Cheiron productions.

They're all from Roland stuff and previews available on synthmania.com just make a search on google with words synthmania and the name of any of the following instruments name:

056 OrchestraHit
070 4 Hits 4 You
073 Tekno Hit 1
074 Tekno Hit 2
075 Tekno Hit 3
110 Triumph Stab
111 Street Stab

Also the Downtown Beat from PowerFX is available here: http://powerfx.com/products/989253403

I think they also used (likely as layers)

147 Tpt Fx x3
134 Movin' Hit
136 Club Hit x4
137 Big Ol' Stab

(Roland M-DC1 or Dance expansion board)
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on November 20, 2017, 09:42:58 AM
Need to hear those

EDIT: I heard them...I don't think so...
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on November 20, 2017, 08:15:00 PM
Need to hear those

EDIT: I heard them...I don't think so...

Hmm. I think I did here the street or triumph stab in "I'll be the one," though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqfOMGepVs Do you know what was used here?
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on November 22, 2017, 07:02:22 AM
Hmm. I think I did here the street or triumph stab in "I'll be the one," though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqfOMGepVs Do you know what was used here?

It can also be a synth stab or a trumpet stab very random and easy to find
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on November 22, 2017, 07:36:52 AM
It can also be a synth stab or a trumpet stab very random and easy to find

Probably so.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on December 11, 2017, 07:55:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJzxLqGJ04 I know I've linked this before, but this, in my humble opinion, is a really cool remix. It's got the piano attack from o.i.d.i.a. and the b.o.m.t. stab in it, too most notably. Not to mention the piano stab in it's separate layers.
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: Tano87 on December 13, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
Here u have some stuff at 1:20:44 and during all this section of the concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXTwANKA0U
Title: Re: Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits
Post by: cheironlover on December 13, 2017, 08:53:48 PM
Here u have some stuff at 1:20:44 and during all this section of the concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeXTwANKA0U

I heard the "daaoow" synth, too. I also saw A roland D-70

And they happen to be using the famous crown/akg cm311 headworn mic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoU5cOY4U4k Can you tell me which stab was used here?