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Title: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on October 22, 2016, 08:32:24 AM
so i downloaded this 51 part multitrack for the song "Who Knew" and i tried to make an instrumental but the mix that i got from combining the tracks sounded distorted AF.

if someone wanna find out what the proper mix is, the reward is not only hearing an official instrumental of Who Knew after some 10 odd years, but more importantly i will be happy

(edit: link has been fixed to include the vocal tracks.)

DL : https://mega.nz/#F!Z1s0kCCC!q4SZ-rOQRT69puI8m2q-zA
Title: Re: Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink - Who Knew Multitrack (mixers please help)
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 22, 2016, 05:39:48 PM
Thank you for the multitrack, but you shouldn't delete the vocal tracks... is the most important part of the song!
Title: Re: Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink - Who Knew Multitrack (mixers please help)
Post by: backgammonfiend on October 23, 2016, 08:44:10 PM
then why am i trying my hardest to not hear them fam...

edit: I am dumb... 6 of those supposed vocal tracks were just full mixes of the song and I will hold this L. Also, I thought of a maybe easier way to do this. The multitrack came with a copy of the backing track in sync, so could you just filter the backing vocals out of the backing track? I put the backing track in the vocal track folder.

I got no clue how filtering works
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: eligreenmusic on October 26, 2016, 09:21:16 AM
So you're just trying to make an instrumental mix from the stems, is that correct?

I believe these are the unmixed, original stems as everything is still in mono and pretty un-effected in the way of compression, limiting, mixing, spreading, etc.

I put them in Ableton and exported at 24-bit, 4800, with no dithering and nothing on the master. Reduced the volume for some headroom to advoid distortion. Needless to say, it doesn't sound very good at all...

http://www91.zippyshare.com/v/YgNlQ4pJ/file.html

The takeaway from this is really that Max/Luke aren't usually doing anything "new" when they produce, they just write decent songs and frame them well with simple production and a few cool ear-candy FX. In this instance, the production is an up-and-down indie rock song from the early 00s.

-Picked bass through ampfarm
-Indie guitars through Waves GTR
-Strings by Leon Pandarvis
-Mixed Addictive Drums and LASSE MRTN's live drumming

Hope that helps,
-E
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on October 27, 2016, 04:39:04 AM
hmmm the drums sound different in that mix than the actual one in the vocal track folder i think something must be missing from the multitrack or it's different to the actual song

also i finally realized that a lot of those duplicate files are just separated left and right channels in mono. Other ones, i got no idea. are there actually 11 separate string tracks in the final mix?
anyway ... i tried my second suggestion. the backing vocals are channel separated so inversion didn't work initially i tried splitting the channels and inverting but it did nothing to lower the vocal as well, i am stumped here. i really don't know how to filter
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: stereoBuss on November 19, 2017, 04:50:17 AM
Hey, can either of you repost the multitracks?

Also, @eligreenmusic

Quote
-Picked bass through ampfarm
-Indie guitars through Waves GTR
-Strings by Leon Pandarvis
-Mixed Addictive Drums and LASSE MRTN's live drumming

How do you know this?
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on November 24, 2017, 06:24:40 AM
okay i've reuploaded the Session. i've also included some final mix stems (in the multitrack folder), and my project file for attempting to mix the Instrumental using the sessions to fill in the pieces missing from the final mix stems.

if you don't want something, the stuff is segregated by folder, you don't have to download the whole thing lol.

https://mega.nz/#F!Blty2Ljb!ihphLa17spuWrmLl9JIIwA

if somebody reports this one too i'm not reupping a 3rd time
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 25, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
okay i've reuploaded the Session. i've also included some final mix stems (in the multitrack folder), and my project file for attempting to mix the Instrumental using the sessions to fill in the pieces missing from the final mix stems.

if you don't want something, the stuff is segregated by folder, you don't have to download the whole thing lol.

https://mega.nz/#F!Blty2Ljb!ihphLa17spuWrmLl9JIIwA

if somebody reports this one too i'm not reupping a 3rd time

Thank you!
And mixing is so important... you can fck things up with a bad mixing.
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on November 27, 2017, 02:00:26 AM
oh i definitely fucked it up, but that's because the relative FM stem gains aren't consistent in the actual release of the song.

i was too lazy to separate the stems by section and work on the levels separately. somebody else can do that shit mine sounds fine except the snare in the chorus is wrong but i couldn't find the proper snare in the sessions... also the kick in the chorus is too quiet... could probably fix that by separation too... but once again i can't be bothered
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on December 30, 2017, 12:39:08 AM
i apologize... now that i've got some headphones i see that i missed some stuff in there. i'll make a new instrumental mix soon bb.

i'd delete that old one. it's trash
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on December 31, 2017, 09:53:57 AM
alright i spent like 4 hours trying to recreate the proper drums from the chorus and failed miserably. the rest of the mix is improved, fixed the kick pauses, raised the high hat and strings, punched in the missing cymbals and whatnot.

in retrospect i should have saved them oggs and just used the drum track from RB2 outright instead of trying to remake it from the session file. but hindsight is 20-20, i've deleted the oggs my mans ripped many moons ago cause i thought the drum track advertised as final mix was accurate (it wasn't by a long shot)

i hope y'all enjoyed this one. i'll leave this link up because these files were all leaked by somebody else and not me. if that audacity file doesn't work, let me know

happy new year everyone, it's time for me to leave. idk how long my producer folders will be up. get them before i delete my email.
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: addictedsober on January 03, 2018, 03:26:44 AM
alright i spent like 4 hours trying to recreate the proper drums from the chorus and failed miserably. the rest of the mix is improved, fixed the kick pauses, raised the high hat and strings, punched in the missing cymbals and whatnot.

in retrospect i should have saved them oggs and just used the drum track from RB2 outright instead of trying to remake it from the session file. but hindsight is 20-20, i've deleted the oggs my mans ripped many moons ago cause i thought the drum track advertised as final mix was accurate (it wasn't by a long shot)

i hope y'all enjoyed this one. i'll leave this link up because these files were all leaked by somebody else and not me. if that audacity file doesn't work, let me know

happy new year everyone, it's time for me to leave. idk how long my producer folders will be up. get them before i delete my email.

here's the official instrumental from a publishing site
https://mega.nz/#!ksFmUD7Y!P4xG9STEyqZo25qvOSf0V0qn0ieTiW1fBssSqjdfcoE
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: backgammonfiend on January 04, 2018, 09:06:48 PM
yep... those sure sound like the proper drums

I'll hold this L, I'm still leaving my stuff.

luckily, you can download each folder one at a time, so you don't have to download the audacity file if you don't want it
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: grazuck on November 05, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
Hello! Anyone can give me a link to download these stems? I Really need the violin tracks! Thanks :)
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 06, 2018, 06:22:42 PM
I'm not the best at mixing. I think I'm going to try this to improve my skills.
Title: Re: Who Knew Multitrack - Dr. Luke / Max Martin / Pink (need help mixing it)
Post by: grazuck on November 07, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
I'm working at a rearrangement of the song with my band, to play live, and i'd hate to use fake synths (or even VSTs, still not the same, and i'd have to program them...) so the real strings tracks would be of great help... i saw a vid on youtube that has them, but it's got the vocals mixed in as well, so it's unusable (even with youtube quality).

The links posted here are all dead, maybe someone still has the stems pack saved on a drive or something?

Thanks guys :)