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Title: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: smadaleinad on April 17, 2018, 11:25:34 PM
Ariana’s new single “No Tears Left To Cry” is supposedly coming out this Thursday or Friday. She was spotted wearing a sweater with the song title on it displayed upside down, and Ilya posted a picture wearing the same sweater (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhhjs3MBTrT/). She posted on Instagram with the teardrop emoji and a bunch of people have done the same, including her mother, her manager, and Savan (https://twitter.com/savan_kotecha/status/986336579512758273?s=21). Judging from the two of them more than likely being involved I think it’s safe to say Max will be involved as well!

Looks like AG4 is coming fast and furious 🙌🙌
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on April 18, 2018, 05:04:49 AM
Think Pharrell also involved in the song.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on April 18, 2018, 07:23:27 AM
ASCAP and Warner don't have this title yet.


Quote
Ariana used a tear and raincloud emojis in one of her Insta-stories to caption an in-studio photo with Pharrell. It's also worth mentioning there's a Meghan Trainor demo of a song titled "No Tears Left To Cry" floating around
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on April 18, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
Think Pharrell also involved in the song.
Billboard said both are part of her upcoming album, not part of the same song, Pharrell never worked with anyone from Sweden and I doubt that's about to change.( And now I'm in doubt while writing this, but if anyone know any song that proves me wrong I listen.)

Ilya and savan with Ariana, should we expect something different from last album? I hope they step up and bring someone new to their sessions like Alexander Kronlund. Or more songs with Ali.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on April 18, 2018, 03:27:47 PM
‘No Tears Left To Cry’ may well be the first glimpse of a new album from Ariana Grande. As Variety reported earlier this month, the follow-up to 2016’s ‘Dangerous Woman’ is rumoured to feature collaborations with Max Martin, Savan Kotecha and Pharrell Williams.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/ariana-grande-new-single-no-tears-left-to-cry-teaser-2295459#fR7oz483ZLbQzAFH.99
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 20, 2018, 05:38:24 AM
The song is out.

Written by Ariana Grande, Max Martin, Ilya Salmanzadeh & Savan Kotecha.

Not feeling it at all.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on April 20, 2018, 06:02:56 AM
I like the vibe, sounds a little bit rushed, it lacks energy.
The chorus sounds very reminiscent to chained to the rhythm.
I hope her context due to what happened last year boost her charts.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on April 20, 2018, 10:01:00 AM
Wow, definitely wasn't thinking it was produced by Max/Ilya. The vocal editing in the beginning is sloppy- you can clearly tell where they split and joined different takes. The vibe of the song as a whole is awesome though. Love the celestial/90's Euro pop vibe, some cheesy pop house vibes. I wonder why it's not as polished as the songs on Dangerous Woman. Production wise and vocals especially...
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on April 20, 2018, 11:35:34 AM
Heavy Max involvment.

Composer, Lyricist, Producer, Keyboard, Drums, Bass, Percussion


Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on April 20, 2018, 04:10:10 PM
Masterpiece
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: MarshallHolland on April 21, 2018, 10:37:28 PM
I love the production and melody......Thought it was pretty cool how they put those same vocal improves from "Into You" and "Break Free" in the 3rd Chorus. Really liked the way the synth was side chained when the drum loop came in before the verse.....and those bells/chimes in the 3rd Chorus are pretty nice as well.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 23, 2018, 07:15:14 PM
I like the snares and the plucks in the chorus.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on April 30, 2018, 09:22:44 PM
Another top 10 in the billboard hot 100 for Max as No Tears Left To cry debuted at #3
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on May 02, 2018, 08:16:58 PM
‘No Tears Left To Cry’ may well be the first glimpse of a new album from Ariana Grande. As Variety reported earlier this month, the follow-up to 2016’s ‘Dangerous Woman’ is rumoured to feature collaborations with Max Martin, Savan Kotecha and Pharrell Williams.
Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/ariana-grande-new-single-no-tears-left-to-cry-teaser-2295459#fR7oz483ZLbQzAFH.99

And that's all apparently. Ariana revealed last night that she worked with Pharrell, Max, Ilya and Savan, and then she stopped counting. We get an even smaller list of collaborators than last album.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on May 02, 2018, 08:57:01 PM
Live performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJBMtkLtKHE


I think Max is executive producer. Maybe we get our first Pharrell and Max collaboration.   
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: Dagge on May 15, 2018, 01:11:54 AM
This 'melodic math' thing has become all math and no music creativity.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 01, 2018, 06:55:20 AM
http://www.thefader.com/2018/05/30/ariana-grande-cover-story?utm_source=tftw

The other half of the album was produced by the most trusted and scientific hitmaker in pop, Max Martin. This is a lot of the work that Ariana produced after Manchester, and she says she got the songwriting bug this time around. It’s a bit of a cliché to say that an artist’s new album is their most personal album yet, but for Ariana it’s really true.


A few weeks after our interview, Ariana posted to her Instagram story that she decided to add five tracks to her album, bringing the total tracklist up to 15 songs. We hopped on the phone to talk about the last-minute creative push, and Ariana seems even happier and more energized than before.

After recently reaching an “emotional rock bottom,” she revisited some of the songs she had decided to initially cut. The additions are three more from the Pharrell sessions, one from the Max camp, and one with her close past collaborator producer Tommy Brown.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on June 04, 2018, 05:57:34 PM
Ariana Grande performing The Light Is Coming


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x3iBCfHFDc
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on June 19, 2018, 11:17:11 AM
Acapella

youtu.be/mageJ2zMC-Y (https://youtu.be/mageJ2zMC-Y?t=7s)
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on June 20, 2018, 12:06:01 PM
"Sweetener" up for pre-order

https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/sweetener/1399202539


Tracklist:

1. raindrops
2. god is a woman
3. the light is coming (feat. Nicki Minaj)
4. r.e.m.
5. sweetener
6. blazed (feat. Pharrell)
7. successful
8. everytime
9. borderline (feat. Missy Elliot)
10. no tears left to cry
11. pete (interlude)
12. better off
13. goodnight n go
14. breathing
15. get well soon
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 20, 2018, 07:38:41 PM
Not really feeling it.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 21, 2018, 07:55:43 PM
The video is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQitfe8u7i4

The songs reminds me of N.E.R.D.'s Lemon featuring Rihanna, but less cool.

Plus, two close friends of mine made a spanish version of No Tears Left To Cry.
What do you guys think about their vocals? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_KGRg53Ho8
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 22, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvRgIklx1O8

Ariana Grande’s “the light is coming” Explained | Song Stories


Contains an interpolation of the same discussion used on N.E.R.D's Lemon.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on June 25, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
[...]

Tracklist:

1. raindrops
2. god is a woman
3. the light is coming (feat. Nicki Minaj)
4. r.e.m.
5. sweetener
6. blazed (feat. Pharrell)
7. successful
8. everytime
9. borderline (feat. Missy Elliot)
10. no tears left to cry
11. pete (interlude)
12. better off
13. goodnight n go
14. breathing
15. get well soon

How much I hate it when every word is written in majuscules or minuscules.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on June 25, 2018, 10:47:09 PM
So you will hate the Meghan album too.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on June 26, 2018, 12:57:16 AM
And you probably hate Ne-Yo's album too.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on June 26, 2018, 07:16:13 AM
Loooool, you're right (and THE CARTERS' album ...), there's even a PARTYNEXTDOOR feature on Ne-Yo's album, hilarious! But there might be still some good music behind those titles.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 13, 2018, 06:46:39 AM
i fuckng love it. new sound and lyrics for her, love the outro.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 13, 2018, 08:41:56 AM
I didn't like No Tears Left To Cry.

I don't like this one either.

Can't stand a song with thriplets anymore.

Edit: The video is out. Directed by Dave Meyers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLHSlExFis&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on July 24, 2018, 09:17:40 PM
i fuckng love it. new sound and lyrics for her, love the outro.

+1
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 05, 2018, 05:38:03 PM
Ilya answered Instagram questions today. Go and see all the interesting answers.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 05, 2018, 08:53:50 PM
https://www.instagram.com/stories/ilya_music/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/ilya_music/)

Why so many questions about Russia?

I don't know. But I loved the questions about softsynths and VSTs.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 17, 2018, 07:07:32 AM
Only two new songs by Max and the team which are not bad but they have to grow with time.
Pharrel's songs are catchy though.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 17, 2018, 05:31:53 PM
Only two new songs by Max and the team which are not bad but they have to grow with time.
Pharrel's songs are catchy though.

Four.
At first listen: I hate it.

Where's Ali Payami? Dammit.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 17, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZDK_E5p84

Ariana's Carpool Karaoke with James Corden.

"Did you know I demand to be carried anywhere? That's the kind of popstar I am" AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 17, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
Four.
At first listen: I hate it.

Where's Ali Payami? Dammit.

I had expectations when Troye released a song with Ariana and Oscar Holter, she could go from there. Ilya is starting to recycle beats.

On another note, is it me or every swede is slowing down their work per year?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 18, 2018, 10:20:42 PM
I had expectations when Troye released a song with Ariana and Oscar Holter, she could go from there. Ilya is starting to recycle beats.

On another note, is it me or every swede is slowing down their work per year?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bmho_GYHDzd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Savan posted the other on instagram about being challeged creatively in this album for the second time in his life.
Sounds a bit like getting stuck.

None of the guys from the Cousins have evolved very much their sound.
And I think this is the same thing that happened to Max after 2001. Urban latin and trap is what's trending now.
 
For example: Kyle Shearer and Nate Campany co wrote Sin Pijama by Becky G. Had some sessions with respected latin writers. They know what's happening and where to go.

It would be great if Max would have a REAL challenge, doing something he's never done before.

For example, there's great producers at the moment but the future trends are clear to me: Rihanna's last record set the trend to caribbean sounding tracks. Her new record is dancehall. She did some stuff with London based producers Banx & Ranx, which mix caribbean sounds, Nigerian stuff and american production. They're from Canada. Check them, they signed with Syco a couple months ago.

Plus, there's some great stuff happening with Baile funk in Brazil, which is from the favelas in Rio. After Bum Bum Tam Tam, Anitta's Vai Malandra and the new heavily baile funk infused latest release by Juan Magan, I think that's other trend.

Also we have Tainy, from Puerto Rico, he co produced 10 songs on J Balvin's new album along Sky, J Balvin's former producer. He's the next thing.
He co produced I Like It by Cardi B, which is latin stuff mixed with trap. He mixes anything latin with modern production: funk carioca, trap, flamenco, reggae, dancehall, reggaeton, cumbia, champetas and vallenatos from Colombia, etc.

The thing is: the sounding evolves. But the most important thing is music and lyrics.
Max is not the best at writing lyrics, but he knows what he's good at and looks for people to help him.

I think about the need to think outside the box. Stop playing safe.
That's why I don't like Ariana's record. I heard this before many times. If you want to copy something, do it with a twist.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on August 19, 2018, 07:31:57 AM
Ariana is so distant from latina world. I bet she will never release nothing tropical and so on.

That's why I don't like Ariana's record. I heard this before many times.

No way that a girl with the same hairdo for the last 6 years feels the need to try something new in a studio.
I guess this is happening when a vocalist got too much "creative control" over songwriting. She wants to show off, do aahs, runs and belts.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 19, 2018, 06:12:58 PM
Her relevance was extended for one more album thanks to Manchester, which is sad because music stepped into a secondary role. There wouldn't be a chance for an artist to have to many top 10 doing something similar over and over.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
She did an interview with Zach Sang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PviZLT7HPys

Some interesting things she brought up were that God is a woman was offered to other artists first and Wolf Cousins originally wanted the song to have a rapper. One of the artists was Camila, a snippet of her demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULwvGgm2XVM

She also talks about a song they offered her called Single which was recently registered with Demi so I guess she's the one who ended up recording it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhJ_2fkUEAAKHLI.jpg:large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhJ_2fkUEAAKHLI.jpg:large)

Wow, I didn't know about God Is A Woman. I thought it was her idea.
And I'm not talking about Ariana doing new stuff, I'm talking about Max doing new things.

She ended up in tears with Ebro at Beats 1 talking about the Manchester, her mental health and therapy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x84yPN71jo&t=197s

Plus, she was promoting the album on US TV as well. James Corden, Jimmy Fallon.

PS: Love the Zach Sang show.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 19, 2018, 09:27:05 PM
Wow, I didn't know about God Is A Woman. I thought it was her idea.
And I'm not talking about Ariana doing new stuff, I'm talking about Max doing new things.

She ended up in tears with Ebro at Beats 1 talking about the Manchester, her mental health and therapy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x84yPN71jo&t=197s

Plus, she was promoting the album on US TV as well. James Corden, Jimmy Fallon.

PS: Love the Zach Sang show.

Full credits here: https://www.thefader.com/2018/08/17/ariana-grande-full-album-credits
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on August 20, 2018, 07:47:14 AM
Pharrell loves 10 assistants in the studio.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2018, 01:09:03 PM
So "breathin" seems to be the most popular album track, right?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 20, 2018, 07:29:20 PM
It's N1 on iTunes, apparently, yes.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on August 20, 2018, 10:53:49 PM
lol

(https://scontent-ber1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39572524_10215034335606042_1537863673702252544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1e337f4187c1d10eb826ebcaac97759b&oe=5C3985A9)
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 21, 2018, 06:11:46 PM
Breathing is #1 on US iTunes, as well as Sweetener.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on August 23, 2018, 11:16:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZDK_E5p84

this girl is too good
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 23, 2018, 07:36:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZDK_E5p84

this girl is too good

There's a meme about Ariana and Mariah in the carpool hahaha
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on August 24, 2018, 07:29:26 PM
Is the guitar solo from breathin written by Peter Svensson? Sounds similar like the solo on shameless by the weeknd also co written by him.
I wonder because he is also credited in Ariana's song.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 24, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Is the guitar solo from breathin written by Peter Svensson? Sounds similar like the solo on shameless by the weeknd also co written by him.
I wonder because he is also credited in Ariana's song.

Probably: guitar is his main instrument.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on September 10, 2018, 12:07:39 PM
Is the guitar solo from breathin written by Peter Svensson? Sounds similar like the solo on shameless by the weeknd also co written by him.
I wonder because he is also credited in Ariana's song.

Guitar solos are never written.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on September 10, 2018, 12:27:29 PM
Most melodic guitar solos are written. Or what do you mean?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 10, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
Guitar solos are never written.

He's being concrete about the subject... that's it.

Weird humor.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on September 11, 2018, 11:43:51 AM
He's being concrete about the subject... that's it.

Weird humor.

I don't know what you mean here.

"Real" guitar solos are improvised, not written. As e.g. van Halen's solo in Beat It.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 11, 2018, 06:32:17 PM
I don't know what you mean here.

"Real" guitar solos are improvised, not written. As e.g. van Halen's solo in Beat It.

Too concrete. Come on.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 12, 2018, 04:15:09 AM
I don't know what you mean here.

"Real" guitar solos are improvised, not written. As e.g. van Halen's solo in Beat It.

That doesn't sound very plausible inside Max's camp where everything is planned out meticulously.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on September 13, 2018, 06:20:16 AM
That doesn't sound very plausible inside Max's camp where everything is planned out meticulously.

Where from do you have the information Peter wrote the "Shameless" guitar solo?

"8   Shameless
Acoustic Guitar, Keyboards [Keys] – Peter Svensson
Arranged By [Strings] – Mattias Bylund
Cello – David Bukovinszky
Co-producer – Abel "The Weeknd" Tesfaye*
Edited By [Vocal Editing] – Peter Carlsson (3)
Engineer [Assistant Engineered] – Cory Bice, Jeremy Lertola
Engineer [Engineered For Mix By] – John Hanes
Guitar Synthesizer [Synth Guitar Solo] – Klas Ålund
Mixed By – Serban Ghenea
Producer – Ali Payami, Max Martin, Peter Svensson
Programmed By [Additional Programming] – Max Martin
Programmed By, Drums, Synth, Keyboards [Keys], Bass – Ali Payami
Recorded By [Strings], Edited By [Strings] – Mattias Bylund
Recorded By, Engineer – Sam Holland
Violin – Mattias Johansson
Written-By – Abel "The Weeknd" Tesfaye*, Ahmad "Belly' Balshe*, Ali Payami, Peter Svensson, Savan Kotecha"
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 13, 2018, 07:22:15 AM
I don't, I just wanted to point out something I've noticed, and I've noticed something similar in the solo of Rock N Roll by Avril Lavigne.
Maybe it's not the execution but the writing of the solo, which I don't think it's improvised at all.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on September 13, 2018, 05:40:39 PM
"Real" guitar solos are improvised, not written. As e.g. van Halen's solo in Beat It.

Yes, indeed that one is, which is why i said ”most”. Because guitar solos are generally quite like vocal melodies. You improvise over the music. Then you piece the best parts  together. Sometimes its pretty close to the improv, sometimes it takes a lot of working out.

Saying that only improvised solos are ”real” solos is a big middle finger to most, if not pretty much all (including EVH) of the biggest guitar players. And in the case of a pop production like the others mentioned. Zero chance its a one take improv.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on November 04, 2018, 12:05:57 PM
She works very fast, damn. I wonder if she will come back to Max for her next album.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on November 06, 2018, 11:45:19 AM
What really bothers me about NTLTC: The cut off reverb tail of the "oh yeah" between pickin' it up and I'm lovin'. It sounds so unwanted.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on November 06, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
What really bothers me about NTLTC: The cut off reverb tail of the "oh yeah" between pickin' it up and I'm lovin'. It sounds so unwanted.
The worst part is that it's everywhere in the song, including in the vocal intro that's in the music video.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 06, 2018, 06:20:06 PM
The worst part is that it's everywhere in the song, including in the vocal intro that's in the music video.

Dang!!! I didn't notice it!!! It's awful!!!
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 07, 2018, 11:32:56 PM
The video for Breathin is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0iD0pI3o0
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on November 08, 2018, 03:11:25 AM
Shouldn't i trust ASCAP?
It says that Breathin it's written by Max, Ilya, Savan and Ariana.

I wanted this song so bad to be written by Max lol
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 08, 2018, 05:32:31 AM
Shouldn't i trust ASCAP?
It says that Breathin it's written by Max, Ilya, Savan and Ariana.

I wanted this song so bad to be written by Max lol

And Peter Svensson.

iTunes says Ariana Grande, Savan Kotecha, Ilya Salmanzadeh, Max Martin, Peter Svensson.
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Post by: nanofives on November 08, 2018, 02:26:38 PM
And Peter Svensson.

iTunes says Ariana Grande, Savan Kotecha, Ilya Salmanzadeh, Max Martin, Peter Svensson.

I know, the point is that depending on the source the credits change. ASCAP doesn't list Peter, Spotify and Tidal doesn't list Max and Qobuz lists all five. I hate inconsistency.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 08, 2018, 09:47:02 PM
I know, the point is that depending on the source the credits change. ASCAP doesn't list Peter, Spotify and Tidal doesn't list Max and Qobuz lists all five. I hate inconsistency.

Well, Peter is mainly a guitarist and there are not many guitarist on the Cousins... even though Peter is not an official member.

But you actually can tell who produced each track based on the way it sounds.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on November 09, 2018, 12:46:16 AM
Well, Peter is mainly a guitarist and there are not many guitarist on the Cousins... even though Peter is not an official member.

But you actually can tell who produced each track based on the way it sounds.

I know that with time and listening to many different songs of the same producer you can figure out who's doing each part (kinda), but credits are a way to reinforce what I'm hearing, and if the credits ain't right I can't confirm that.

The thing with Peter is easier to tell than Max, because I'm under the impression that the topline that Max does it's very similar than all of the Wolf Cousin's members (after all, they kinda took it up from Max initially I think) and now I don't really know when a song is made by Max or if it just channels max's style.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on November 12, 2018, 03:21:44 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqD0jZGgf4H/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

And on her IG story she’s in the studio with Savan so maybe more Max / Wolf Cousins for her next album after all?
And maybe a collab with Victoria Monét
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 29, 2018, 08:15:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4PiBEWFvI


Dangerous Woman Diaries Ep1 - the light is coming

Plus, Mumford and Sons did Breathin on BBC Radio1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9oOkWSGfw

The guys from Mumford and Sons said Ariana is a big star, in a Whitney Houston type of star.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on December 05, 2018, 08:16:22 PM
The video for thank u, next became viral and became her biggest song to date.

Ariana talked with Billboard about her career and next album, confirms working with Max and his team:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/events/women-in-music/8487877/ariana-grande-cover-story-billboard-women-in-music-2018.

“I’ve politely walked out of sessions before,” says Grande. “It has happened. I’m a small girl. People tend to underestimate that. And then I sit down and comp my own vocals and can produce my own session, and they’re like” -- here she adopts an excellent impersonation of a dopey man -- “‘Oh, I didn’t know you could do that.’ I’m like, ‘Believe it or not, there are plenty of tiny women that can do this.’”
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 06, 2018, 09:07:14 AM
The video for thank u, next became viral and became her biggest song to date.

Ariana talked with Billboard about her career and next album, confirms working with Max and his team:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/events/women-in-music/8487877/ariana-grande-cover-story-billboard-women-in-music-2018.

“I’ve politely walked out of sessions before,” says Grande. “It has happened. I’m a small girl. People tend to underestimate that. And then I sit down and comp my own vocals and can produce my own session, and they’re like” -- here she adopts an excellent impersonation of a dopey man -- “‘Oh, I didn’t know you could do that.’ I’m like, ‘Believe it or not, there are plenty of tiny women that can do this.’”

who would've thought... going into her fifth studio album that she's reaching a new career peak. she's become a true streaming artist, creating viral & enticing visuals as well as creating a controversial social media presence. the break up with Pete and the death of Mac Miller definitely fueled even greater interest in her - all eyes watching what her next move would be, which was Thank u, next.

good for her. excited to hear what AG5 will sound like.

*edit: great article, btw. lots of tid-bits about the next record that i bet she'll release around x-mas:

Quote
Now comes the polishing phase and the addition of some tracks with Martin and his team. It was the product of a lot of “feminine energy and champagne and music and laughter and crying. This [album’s] not particularly uplifting,” she says. “A lot of it sounds really upbeat, but it’s actually a super sad chapter.”

The music is defiant -- deep, bass-driven bangers with trap beats alternating with airy, sad ballads -- and aesthetically more adventurous than anything she has ever released. Some of the lyrics are so unambiguously personal and gutting that even if the singer were up for talking about them, most questions would be redundant. But one of the more upbeat tunes, “7 Rings,” has a backstory Grande is happy to discuss.

“It was a... challenging fall day in New York,” she begins, cracking up. “Me and my friends went to Tiffany’s together, just because we needed some retail therapy. You know how when you’re waiting at Tiffany’s they give you lots of champagne? They got us very tipsy, so we bought seven engagement rings, and when I got back to the studio I gave everybody a friendship ring.” She flashes a diamond ring on her right hand; Monét and Parx are wearing them as well. “That’s why we have these, and that’s where the song idea came from.”

She goes to her phone and presses “play,” and a party-ready twist on “My Favorite Things” booms out of the speakers. Grande whispers some asides to her friends, who are bopping along to the song. Then she starts to dance around the room in her bare feet, alone and smiling.

I'm imagining the latter to be similar to Gwen Stefani's "Wind it Up" and then '7 Rings' to be similar to Greedy/Pink Champagne.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 06, 2018, 06:30:58 PM
Wind it uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup! Love that track!

So weird.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 18, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UjJGNA4BL0

Mark Ronson, Miley Cyrus - No Tears Left To Cry (Ariana Grande cover) in the Live Lounge
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Post by: nanofives on January 13, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
Registered on APRA.

“Break Up with Your Girlfriend”: Kandi Burruss, Kevin "She'kspere" Briggs, Ariana Grande, Ilya, Savan Kotecha & Max Martin

I smell sample.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on January 14, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
Even more interesting article on Ariana's phonetics.
I wonder, was her problems a result of poor mastering or excessive compression?

https://www.acelinguist.com/2018/07/dialect-dissection-ariana-grande.html
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 15, 2019, 12:10:18 AM
I smell sample.

It could be lots of songs. They were big at the end of the 90s...
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on January 23, 2019, 11:23:36 AM
New album.

How many Max songs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_U,_Next


I have read that "break up with your girlfriend" is the only Max Martin song on the album which samples Nsync "It makes me ill"

Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 24, 2019, 04:04:34 AM
There's only 4 Tommy Brown produced tracks.
And Illya and Savan shared some stuff on their IG accounts about their input on the album, so there's more than one song from the Cousins.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on January 25, 2019, 12:22:57 PM
imagine      Ariana Grande, Andrew Wansel, Nathan Perez, Priscilla Renea & Jameel Roberts   
needy      Ariana Grande, Tommy Brown, Victoria Monét & Tayla Parx   
NASA      Tommy Brown, Charles Anderson, Victoria Monét & Tayla Parx   
bloodline      Ariana Grande, Max Martin, Ilya Salmanzadeh & Savan Kotecha   
fake smile      Ariana Grande, Andrew Wansel, Nathan Perez, Priscilla Renea, Kennedi Lykken, Justin Tranter, Joseph W. Frierson & Mary Lou Frierson   
bad idea      Ariana Grande, Max Martin, Ilya Salmanzadeh & Savan Kotecha   
make up      Ariana Grande, Tommy Brown, Tayla Parx, Victoria Monét & Brian Malik Baptiste   
ghostin      Ariana Grande, Max Martin, Victoria Monét, Ilya Salmanzadeh & Savan Kotecha   
in my head      Ariana Grande, Brittany Chi Coney, Denisia Andrews, Andrew Wansel, Nathan Perez, Lindel Deon Nelson Jr & Jameel Roberts   
7 rings      Ariana Grande, Tommy Brown, Charles Anderson, Michael Foster, Victoria Monét, Tayla Parx, Njomza Vitia, Richard Rogers, Oscar Hammerstein II & Kimberly Krysiuk   
thank u, next      Ariana Grande, Tommy Brown, Michael Foster, Charles Anderson, Tayla Parx, Victoria McCants, Njomza Vitia & Kimberly Krysiuk   
break up with your girlfriend, i'm bored      Ariana Grande, Max Martin, Ilya Salmanzadeh, Savan Kotecha, Kandi Burruss & Kevin Briggs   
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 25, 2019, 05:48:28 PM
Ilya... I like him, but I expected some tracks from the two Oscars.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on January 26, 2019, 02:32:28 AM
I saw this coming, she left Ali's track in dangerous woman for the deluxe edition, since love me harder there were all Ilya singles from the cousins, she's comfortable with him.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 26, 2019, 05:18:48 AM
I think they have a bunch of tracks to write...
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on January 26, 2019, 09:10:17 PM
Is Ariana trying to get them out of the writers block? If it isn't that I don't get why they are not cutting that many songs a year anymore.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 29, 2019, 06:39:37 PM
I genuinely think she's inspired, it's been rough for her.

But label wants hit songs and they know Max and his team are at their best together.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on January 29, 2019, 10:20:58 PM
Not anymore with Tommy Brown and Victoria Monet I think xD
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 30, 2019, 11:31:32 AM
Not anymore with Tommy Brown and Victoria Monet I think xD

Well, watch at her last two #1 records... Into You peaked at #13.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on January 30, 2019, 05:04:17 PM
Well, watch at her last two #1 records... Into You peaked at #13.
That's what I'm trying to say, Tommy and Victoria did what Ilya, max and savan couldn't do since 2014.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: Rex on February 01, 2019, 04:57:28 AM
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Post by: bugmenot on February 01, 2019, 03:24:42 PM
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Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 02, 2019, 08:20:23 PM
I was tired of Instagram changing its urls or people deleting their posts so now I post everything to pinterest pinterest.se/axelldt (http://pinterest.se/axelldt), please, follow there

Professional stalking right here HAHAHA <3
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Post by: j.fco.morales on February 04, 2019, 03:12:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPUzPiBqLs

The Making Of Ariana Grande's "thank u, next" With Social House & TBHits | Deconstructed
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Post by: nanofives on February 08, 2019, 12:30:42 AM
the album is sweetener 2.0, the same concept without pharrell and more boring, max songs kinda saves the album, but that's saying a lot, those songs feels uninspired too
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Post by: turnaround on February 08, 2019, 10:55:18 AM
All credits can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thank_U,_Next


Max Martin – bass (tracks 4, 6, 8, and 12), drums (tracks 4, 6, and 12), guitar (tracks 4, 6, and 8), keyboards (tracks 4, 6, 8, and 12), string arrangement (track 6)
Max Martin – programming (tracks 4, 6, 8, and 12)
Max Martin – production (tracks 4, 6, 8, and 12), vocal production (track 8)
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Post by: Feelgoodlies on February 08, 2019, 11:57:53 AM
Sorry to say this but Max started to have no sound, it's just outdated generic basic pop/rnb stuff. Maybe it's time to take some time off or get new music buddies.
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Post by: bugmenot on February 08, 2019, 03:07:20 PM
Their tracks were recorded in LA with LA-based assistants but have a Swedish orchestra.
I wonder did they recorded strings and trumpets in Stockholm or brought 8 people in the USA...

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Post by: nanofives on February 08, 2019, 07:09:06 PM
Bloodline seems to be produced only by Max according to Spotify, this didn't happen since... 2008 pink era?
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 09, 2019, 05:05:58 AM
Bloodline is great. Side to Side's sequel
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 09, 2019, 05:20:55 PM
Their tracks were recorded in LA with LA-based assistants but have a Swedish orchestra.
I wonder did they recorded strings and trumpets in Stockholm or brought 8 people in the USA...

Remotely: you pay for your arragement and they send you the recorded arrangement :)
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Post by: j.fco.morales on February 09, 2019, 05:27:53 PM
Bloodline is great. Side to Side's sequel

Yes!!

Absolutely loving what I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 09, 2019, 05:49:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpl8v3jiuNU

Ariana talked about thank you, next on Zach Sang's show.
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Post by: gm33 on February 09, 2019, 06:10:15 PM
OMG Bloodline is a masterpiece!
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on February 10, 2019, 07:08:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpl8v3jiuNU

Ariana talked about thank you, next on Zach Sang's show.
Didn't mention much about max. She first wrote ghostin with the team and then finish it with Victoria, it was the hardest song in the album to finish. She didn't give any details about the team or anything related.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 10, 2019, 08:39:33 PM
Looks very much like she did a lots of songs with her friends and A&R suggested to work with Max.
But also, as Sweetener came not very much ago, they could have use songs from these sessions with Max...
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Post by: nanofives on February 11, 2019, 12:13:24 AM
Somehow the critics praise the cohesion of the album and ignore the fact that 7 rings exists, it's het most acclaimed album to date.
Bloodline and Bad Idea grew on me quickly, the strings arrangement in the end are very unique.
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 11, 2019, 03:26:57 AM
Somehow the critics praise the cohesion of the album and ignore the fact that 7 rings exists, it's het most acclaimed album to date.
Bloodline and Bad Idea grew on me quickly, the strings arrangement in the end are very unique.

i like the reference to Bad Decisions from Dangerous Woman, also produced by Ilya & Max ;)
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Post by: j.fco.morales on February 14, 2019, 05:07:40 PM
Didn't mention much about max. She first wrote ghostin with the team and then finish it with Victoria, it was the hardest song in the album to finish. She didn't give any details about the team or anything related.

Amazing interview. Worth to check it out.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on April 27, 2019, 07:18:35 PM
The Sweetener and thank u, next album instrumentals leaked.

Good to know! Thank you :)
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Post by: j.fco.morales on May 26, 2019, 11:39:48 PM
https://twitter.com/ariana_japan/status/1132500106291212288?s=08

A new edition of Ariana's album is out in Japan in June 26th  ;)
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Post by: nanofives on June 27, 2019, 05:08:23 PM
It's the soundtrack of Charlie's Angels new movie. Apparently Max is involved. New track coming tomorrow featuring Miley Cyrus and Lana del Rey.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on June 27, 2019, 07:27:23 PM
Yep, it's not like Ariana approached Lana to be featured hahaha
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 09, 2019, 08:05:42 PM
https://www.vogue.com/article/ariana-grande-cover-august-2019

“There was a two-album period where I was doing half the songs for me and half the songs to solidify my spot in pop music,” she acknowledges. “A lot of my singles have been hilariously lacking in substance. You’re talking to someone who put ‘Side to Side’ out as a single. I love that song, but it’s just a fun song about sex.” I ask her if it ever feels uncomfortable to gaze out at an audience of thousands of nine-year-old girls while singing a song about having so much coitus that it’s hard to walk straight. “They’re for sure gonna have it. I promise. I promise that your kid’s gonna have sex. So if she asks you what the song’s about, talk about it.”
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Post by: bugmenot on July 10, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
She didn't answered the question how does she feel it.
And does she talk about a sex addiction with kids?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 10, 2019, 07:47:29 PM
She didn't answered the question how does she feel it.
And does she talk about a sex addiction with kids?

What a weird sense of humor!
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Post by: nanofives on July 29, 2019, 08:05:02 PM
Ariana Is releasing a new song called Boyfriend on Friday, feels like a new Ilya-Savan, will this be for the deluxe edition?
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Post by: B Steady on August 06, 2019, 01:50:19 PM
Yes!!

Absolutely loving what I'm hearing.

I'm highly confused, José. It almost bothers me how many of you rate bloodline this high - with bad idea being the obvious smash!
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Post by: j.fco.morales on August 06, 2019, 08:41:38 PM
I'm highly confused, José. It almost bothers me how many of you rate bloodline this high - with bad idea being the obvious smash!

My big favourite is In My Head. Love the lyrics and the reverb in "but it was all in my head-hey-yeah-ey".
I don't know why but I think that reverb represents very fairly the mess you have in your head when you're confused.
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Post by: turnaround on September 09, 2019, 11:24:38 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Call_Me_Angel





Songwriter(s)   
Ariana GrandeMiley CyrusLana Del ReyIlya SalmanzadehMax MartinSavan Kotecha
Producer(s)   
Max MartinIlya
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on September 10, 2019, 05:29:30 AM
excited for this. think it'll be a bop
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: bugmenot on September 10, 2019, 09:50:47 AM
Lana covered Break Up With Your Girlfriend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHQqXAoHP0) on bbc.
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Post by: nanofives on September 10, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
I can't get those 30 seconds that appeared in the trailer out of my head.
Savan said he was excited to be EPing the soundtrack, we may also see more Co writes by him and the team.
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Post by: j.fco.morales on September 10, 2019, 06:23:49 PM
Lana covered Break Up With Your Girlfriend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHQqXAoHP0) on bbc.

Holy sh*it. I LOVE IT!
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Post by: B Steady on September 10, 2019, 09:34:23 PM
Holy sh*it. I LOVE IT!

Because you can barely hear her live vocals?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 11, 2019, 12:25:29 AM
Lana covered Break Up With Your Girlfriend (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHQqXAoHP0) on bbc.

Her voice is on point but then I remember it's Lana del rey singing and for me it gets a little awkward.
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Post by: melodicmoonlight on September 11, 2019, 05:38:35 AM
excellent cover!! love the interpretation and actually suits Lana's coquette-ish music persona perfectly. sounds like there's a proper studio version since the background vocals are recorded.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 11, 2019, 07:53:55 PM
Because you can barely hear her live vocals?

That's BBC Radio's sound engineer. Not Lana. Pathetic hater.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on September 11, 2019, 09:05:02 PM
That's BBC Radio's sound engineer. Not Lana. Pathetic hater.

What / who exactly am I a hater of?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 12, 2019, 06:47:23 PM
What / who exactly am I a hater of?

You told me that on the other thread haha
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 13, 2019, 12:42:35 PM
I'm VERY disappointed with the actual song.
For the last few months I've listened to the snippets of the movie trailer (https://youtu.be/bG3RolKbKCQ) and the song is substantially different from the final release.


Where's the orchestra and the powerful drum arrangement?
I also couldn't hesitate imagining different things happening here like bigger buildups or changing a little the instruments in the outro.
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Post by: B Steady on September 13, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
You told me that on the other thread haha

Ah, so you were just being childish.

I'm VERY disappointed with the actual song.
For the last few months I've listened to the snippets of the movie trailer (https://youtu.be/bG3RolKbKCQ) and the song is substantially different from the final release.

Where's the orchestra and the powerful drum arrangement?
I also couldn't hesitate imagining different things happening here like bigger buildups or changing a little the instruments in the outro.


I agree, however I'm not very disappointed with it.
Obviously it doesn't take too much nowadays to get the title song of a movie.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 13, 2019, 05:10:42 PM
I don't know what's happening with me but I think everything sounds generic.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 13, 2019, 05:28:42 PM
ALMA thanked the team on her Instagram for co-writing the song and thanked Max and linked an Instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/maxmartin.official/
Did she misspelled? Or is it a new Max Instagram account?
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: david on September 13, 2019, 06:18:57 PM
ALMA thanked the team on her Instagram for co-writing the song and thanked Max and linked an Instagram account:
https://www.instagram.com/maxmartin.official/
Did she misspelled? Or is it a new Max Instagram account?
This is fake.. I already report this account 4 months ago, this guy was selling beats pretend be max
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on September 13, 2019, 06:22:17 PM
This is fake.. I already report this account 4 months ago, this guy was selling beats pretend be max

Imagine Max Martin selling beats on Instagram.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on September 13, 2019, 06:31:18 PM
Yeah, I'm sick of Ilya's production as of late actually. Obviously it works commercially but I find it so dull.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 14, 2019, 05:27:05 PM
Imagine Max Martin selling beats on Instagram.

HAHA

Yeah, I'm sick of Ilya's production as of late actually. Obviously it works commercially but I find it so dull.

+1
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: nanofives on September 14, 2019, 07:10:52 PM
Yeah, I'm sick of Ilya's production as of late actually. Obviously it works commercially but I find it so dull.

I think the fans and the people are finding it out. The formula is kinda expired for now.
Nonetheless the vocals works pretty well on the song, I think it's better than other ones.
I also think we have to blame Savan for the dull lyrics, I find it very predictable how he handles the writing to make the lyrics look dumb.
The Adlibs of Ariana in Lana's verse are amazing, I wish they included those in the last chorus too.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 15, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
I only liked the Lana verse.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: turnaround on November 21, 2019, 10:12:33 AM
Grammy:

Album of the Year

Thank U, Next – Ariana Grande
Tommy Brown, Ilya, Max Martin & Victoria Monet, producers; Serban Ghenea & Brendan Morawski, engineers/mixers; Tommy Brown, Ariana Grande, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Victoria Monet, Tayla Parx & Ilya Salmanzadeh, songwriters; Randy Merrill, mastering engineer


Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 21, 2019, 02:37:23 PM
Album of the year, Record of the Year, Best Pop Solo Performance, Best Pop Vocal Album, Best Pop Duo/Group Performance.
Title: Re: Ariana Grande - No Tears Left To Cry (Ilya, Savan Kotecha)
Post by: B Steady on January 10, 2020, 10:18:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU-Nnf0x4aQ

thank u, next mashed up with a familiar instrumental - so good!

This is just as good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q__53rjHe4