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Westhaven:
The big workhorses were always the Roland 1080s w expansions. The piano sound in "...baby one more time" is the preset "64 voice piano" in the jv I believe.

Tommy Nelson:
The Piano from ...Baby one more time "Da dent dent" is the M1 "piano 16" played on the lower keys and put through a light distortion effect. I know 100% for sure, I have the sound and play it all the time. In regards to a "Jupiter 8" ??? If you say so! Yes, they did use (real) analog synths. Denniz PoP's favorite was the Roland Juno-106 (not Jupiter), which Denniz only had one of that he kept with him in studio 1. The same with the Yamaha DX-7, they had only one and kept it in studio 2. In regards to the Roland JV-1080, I played one (with expantions) once in a music shop and heard no familiar "Cheiron" sounds. And it's not even on the list of equipment they used... The "JV-2080" was what they did have. One in each studio room. And even at that, I don't hear the "JV" as often as you say at all whatsoever. Much much more can be found in the M1(with expantion cards) and Trinity than the "JV" series rack synths. And the M1 was NOT considered to be "too old" in the 90's by the Cheiron crew. Especialy Denniz and Kristian. In fact, Denniz kept using the (even older) Juno-106 (from 1984) well into the 90's up until the end. I don't think HE considered it to be "Outdated"... :!:

Westhaven:

--- Quote from: "Tommy Nelson" ---The Piano from ...Baby one more time "Da dent dent" is the M1 "piano 16" played on the lower keys and put through a light distortion effect. I know 100% for sure, I have the sound and play it all the time. In regards to a "Jupiter 8" ??? If you say so! Yes, they did use (real) analog synths. Denniz PoP's favorite was the Roland Juno-106 (not Jupiter), which Denniz only had one of that he kept with him in studio 1. The same with the Yamaha DX-7, they had only one and kept it in studio 2. In regards to the Roland JV-1080, I played one (with expantions) once in a music shop and heard no familiar "Cheiron" sounds. And it's not even on the list of equipment they used... The "JV-2080" was what they did have. One in each studio room. And even at that, I don't hear the "JV" as often as you say at all whatsoever. Much much more can be found in the M1(with expantion cards) and Trinity than the "JV" series rack synths. And the M1 was NOT considered to be "too old" in the 90's by the Cheiron crew. Especialy Denniz and Kristian. In fact, Denniz kept using the (even older) Juno-106 (from 1984) well into the 90's up until the end. I don't think HE considered it to be "Outdated"... :!:
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The 1080 and the 2080 is basically the same machine, and uses the same expansion cards. The 2080 is newer, has more voices and a bigger display. They probably exchanged the 1080s for 2080s and then 5080s in the end (not sure whan that was released) since they all had similar sounds and expansion card formats.

The Juno is analog so that never gets old :)

I guess all this is just a matter of WHEN you look at their equipment. I was there in 95 or 96, your list is maybe from 2000? I don't think the Trinity even existed in 95.

Tommy Nelson:
The Korg Trinity workstation synth was released in 1995. They used it ALL the time! Even after the Triton came out in 1999, they kept using the Trinity and Tr-rack. Denniz had his Trinity keyboard with him in studio 1 and they had Tr-racks in studio 2 and 3. In fact, Max Martin STILL has the Trinity and Tr-rack in his main control room today.

Westhaven:

--- Quote from: "Tommy Nelson" ---The Korg Trinity workstation synth was released in 1995. They used it ALL the time! Even after the Triton came out in 1999, they kept using the Trinity and Tr-rack. Denniz had his Trinity keyboard with him in studio 1 and they had Tr-racks in studio 2 and 3. In fact, Max Martin STILL has the Trinity and Tr-rack in his main control room today.
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Aha ok, well I guess they hadn't gotten the KORGs yet then in 95 when I was there. Their sound did shift over the years and the equipment too of course. BTW, Dagge&Kristian used Logic, Per&David used Cubase then.

Dagge would always record each drum part as a separate track on their 2" tape machine, as playing back everything at once from Logic didn't sound tight enough (midi has lots of timing issues)

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