Anyone already tried Apple Music.
I signed up for the free trial and so far it looks quite nice.
A big plus, you have artists that are not available at other streaming services. (even the 1989 Karaoke album :-* :-* which is very interesting to listen to but I would not spend the full price for it)
Big minus: You can't access the songwriting credits. If they fix this this would be a reason to switch from Spotify as there will be an Android app.
In general I think it's good to have another big name in the business of streaming as the services have tougher competition now.
Let's see how the download numbers develop, at least Apple will pay artists in the free trial time of the user, that was made Taylor Swift willing to agree to add 1989 to Apple music.
(https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-28486547-586937/1191-744/composer_empty.png)
Thanks Turnaround, it sounds quite good. It sucks there's not songwriting information.
By the way - to all the streaming haters.
Don't you think you support artists more when you stream?
For every play of a song the artists gets money (little money but gets some)
A CD or download buyer pays ONCE and maybe plays the song a million times - but the artist has no revenue from that.
Quote from: turnaround on July 02, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
By the way - to all the streaming haters.
Don't you think you support artists more when you stream?
For every play of a song the artists gets money (little money but gets some)
A CD or download buyer pays ONCE and maybe plays the song a million times - but the artist has no revenue from that.
Was that supposed to be a serious post?
How come so many songwriters complain about the streaming services if it's
allegedly paying so well?
No doubt though, streaming for money is better than stealing.
And for me personally, I still don't like the idea of paying for something that I don't get to keep.
I love to spend my money on music, but I wanna get a product for that money that I can handle
100% restriction free!!
Quote from: Jules on July 02, 2015, 04:40:37 PM
Was that supposed to be a serious post?
No doubt though, streaming for money is better than stealing.
And for me personally, I still don't like the idea of paying for something that I don't get to keep.
I love to spend my money on music, but I wanna get a product for that money that I can handle 100% restriction free!!
I was wondering the same. and I agree with the rest of your post.
@turnaround: it's not little money, it's not even tiny money!
I also showed you the billing where the artist earned with around 1400 plays the half of what he would've earned with ONE song purchase. I guess this answers your support question.
Artists don't get money from distribution. If an artist get a good deal, can get 5% of the revenue from sales.
Portishead received US$2500 from 34 millons of Spotify streams.
Streaming services are a good business for them, not for the artists.
Also, I prefer to have the files or buy cd's.
There is enough money in the system and spotify pays billions of USD to the labels and right holders. If they dont share it fairly it is definetely not my fault. They should complain to their labels not the consumers.
Good read
http://www.spotifyartists.com/spotify-explained/
but you can decide if you want to support this unfair system or not.
Luckily no one is forced to consume music in just one way. I like a good mixture of streaming, downloading (when it makes sense) and physical cds to add to my collection.
Recently I often visited concerts of artists I have not bought the album but streamed it a lot.
I'd say that's a good compromise: if you only stream an album go to the tour. However this won't satify the producers.
If an album is great or I love the artist anyway I buy the CD. Good albums I download for money. If a good album turns out to be great - I'll buy the CD as well :D and when I love the artist I also go to their concerts!
Quote from: B Steady on July 02, 2015, 08:11:49 PM
but you can decide if you want to support this unfair system or not.
That's the point. I talked about this with some friends the other day: it's amazing that a huge catalogue is available for people to listen if interested.
The thing is, having more information about musicianship, I decided to not use streaming services because I don't support their strategy.
Are we talking about free (ad) streaming or subscriptions? I pay 120 € the year for streaming alone. I believe that's more money than the average German spends on music.
Plus I buy CDs, concert tickets. I hate this ridiculous "streaming is evil" attitude.
Quote from: turnaround on July 02, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
I hate this ridiculous [...] streaming[,] i[t']s evil [...]
agreed!
Quote from: turnaround on July 20, 1974, 10:10:23 PM
I hate this ridiculous "streaming is evil" attitude.
Yet you seem to be alone with your opinion. ::)
Still hurting from laughing so hard. So funny. Really hilarious.
not everybody has the same humor. post 1 of page 2 is just as hilarious. ::)
Quote from: Jules on July 02, 2015, 04:40:37 PM
Was that supposed to be a serious post?
By the way - it was serious to some extent. :)
Lol - there is now a petition for showing the songwriting credits on Apple music.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/show-the-album-credits.fb52?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=13599673
They also should start showing the songwriting credits for EVERY file on iTunes. It should be obligatory - and no song is allowed to be sold without.
I think every single release on iTunes should come with a booklet like CD maxis used to be.
Since this week, fridays are release day globally.
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 06, 2015, 05:46:40 AM
Since this week, fridays are release day globally.
On ITunes aswell?
Yes. But that does not mean other countries get some songs way later. But when they do, the get in on a Friday.
Quote from: Jules on July 06, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
On ITunes aswell?
Yes :)
http://www.popjustice.com/briefing/july-5-2015-the-new-release-day-when-everything-changed/136968/
Quote from: Jules on July 06, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
On ITunes aswell?
no, iTunes doesn't belong to the globe ::)
The petition still has not 40 000 signs.
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/show-the-album-credits.fb52?source=s.icn.fb&r_by=13599673
But the funny thing is that you don't even get the songwriting information for many songs on iTunes neither.
That's probably because the labels or whoever supplies the music to them does not have the field filled. But in Apple Music it's a bug.
You would not want to buy something to eat if you do not know who produced it, would you?
Quote from: turnaround on July 15, 2015, 11:45:49 PM
You would not want to buy something to eat if you do not know who produced it, would you?
I really don't care who produced it but I'm always asking who wrote it when I order my food in a restaurant.
They fixed the bug - you can now also see the credits on iTunes music. :)
Quote from: B Steady on July 17, 2015, 01:57:25 AM
I really don't care who produced it but I'm always asking who wrote it when I order my food in a restaurant.
hilarious!
Quote from: turnaround on December 13, 2015, 02:27:00 PM
They fixed the bug - you can now also see the credits on iTunes music. :)
wonderful news! thanks Turnaround
Lovely old thread.
Btw - News from Sweden:
https://twitter.com/TENMusicGroup/status/773175087637954564
Lovely old thread.
Btw - News from Sweden:
https://twitter.com/TENMusicGroup/status/773175087637954564