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Title: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: davpet on May 05, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Hey Guys,

Just out of interest.

I did a cover of "Never Gonna Give You Up" (Rick Astley) using a similar production to "Since U Been Gone" (Kelly Clarkson).

http://www.myspace.com/sheenonline

Tell me what you think ?

Dave
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Tiiger on May 05, 2008, 11:36:52 PM
It sounds a bit like 'You Came' by Kim Wilde.  ;D

It's nice, is it you who sings?
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: davpet on May 06, 2008, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: Tiiger on May 05, 2008, 11:36:52 PM

It's nice, is it you who sings?

No, I just produced it. I work with a vocalist who has an amazing voice.
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Rebecca on May 06, 2008, 12:07:03 PM
wow, well done, I really like it!

yes, that guy has a really good voice.
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Alex Martin on May 06, 2008, 10:15:07 PM
Yes,It's YOU CAME by Kim Wilde ;D

BTW I love the SAW productions!!!!

They were one of the best producers who ever lived!!!!
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on May 10, 2008, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: Alex Martin on May 06, 2008, 10:15:07 PM
Yes,It's YOU CAME by Kim Wilde ;D

BTW I love the SAW productions!!!!

They were one of the best producers who ever lived!!!!
Yes it is pretty much like Kim Wilde's You Came....

actually I liked what you did,although you need to work a bit harder in order to have a similar productions such as Max.

way to go.
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: davpet on May 15, 2008, 11:01:39 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on May 10, 2008, 11:53:05 AM

actually I liked what you did,although you need to work a bit harder in order to have a similar productions such as Max.

way to go.

Sorry let me clarify. I executive produced this track.

I initially e-mailed Maratone to see what Max's rates were. They sent me a reply saying that Max only works with artists he likes (basically saying if he's never heard of you or you're not signed to a major label you can forget about it). Which is fair enough for a producer of his stature. Also, it would have been far too expensive and looking at his discography he has never recorded a cover version.

So i hired a local producer and told him what i wanted. It cost me less than $500.

THANK GOD, i never spent more money on it. I knew "Never Gonna Give You Up" hit-cycle was returning (that song is just too good and the perfect pop song in my opinion) and it would be massive again. I had no idea it would come back in the form of that stupid Rick-Rolling phenomenon (30 million Youtube views and counting).

I've had songs playlisted before - but no music station compiler wanted to touch this song with a ten-foot barge pole.

Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Rebecca on May 15, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
Why wouldn't a music station want to touch your song?

do you think it's because of the Rick-rolling thing?
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: davpet on May 17, 2008, 07:34:44 PM
Quote from: Rebecca on May 15, 2008, 11:54:23 PM
Why wouldn't a music station want to touch your song?

do you think it's because of the Rick-rolling thing?


No, to be honest no-one where i live, in South Africa, is really familiar with Rick-rolling.

Music compilers aren't visionaries or gamblers, playlisting a Rick Astley cover would just be too risky.

Unless you're well known they'll only playlist light inoffensive ballads (with no hit potential) to meet local artist airplay quotas.
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: Rebecca on May 18, 2008, 12:33:15 AM
Oh right, yes, probably true, a Rick Astley cover by an unknown would be too risky.
Title: Re: Stock/Aitken/Waterman vs. Max Martin/Dr.Luke
Post by: secski on August 13, 2008, 10:22:32 AM
Aw gone! shame.

Love the song on there though, if you could only see by tonic.

haha another contender would be steve mac & co. of westlife fame

i only liked a few of SAW's songs (they were great, i have their biography), but cheiron/maratone is sweeter for me.