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Title: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 14, 2014, 06:54:27 PM
TMZ is not a reliable source to me, but...

http://www.tmz.com/#Article/2014/10/14/kesha-sexual-assault-dr-luke-abuse-lawsuit-drugs
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: Khan9898 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:35 PM
Its trending on twitter and all over the internet, if true then Dr. Luke is a sleezy scumbag.
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: turnaround on October 14, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
One career will end for sure. If all things go wrong, both.

If allegations are true this is horrible. Incredible - one of the biggest producers of our times.
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: Khan9898 on October 14, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
Its hard to imagine that this was potentially happening with guys like Max around, unless they knew about it too which would make it real bad.
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 08:18:46 PM
Luke counter-sued her for extortion, claims that Ke$ha, her mom and her new management firm created the whole story to get out of her contract. It's word vs word.

There's always two-sides to a story, we shouldn't be quick to judge people.

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Kesha is a liar who is making up stories just so she can get out of her legally binding contract with Dr. Luke ... and she tried extorting him to boot ... this according to a new lawsuit.

Luke filed suit hours after Kesha filed her own lawsuit ... accusing him of sexual and physical assault over a period of years.

But in Luke's lawsuit ... he says the pack of lies is being engineered by Kesha's mother, Pebe and Kesha's new management firm. Luke claims Kesha tried to extort him by threatening to spread lies about him to a blogger who started a "Free Kesha" website unless he released her from her recording contract.

And Luke's says in his lawsuit he's had a copy of a draft of Kesha's new abuse lawsuit for months, and she was threatening to file it if he didn't release her. In other words, he's alleging more extortion.

Luke's lawyer, Christine Lepera, tells TMZ, Kesha's lawsuit about abuse is part of "a campaign of publishing outrageous and untrue statements," calling the allegations scurrilous.

Lepera says Kesha and her mom have already admitted the statements are false.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/14/dr-luke-kesha-abuse-sexual-assault-lawsuit-contract-extortion/#ixzz3G93pRTtY
Title: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on October 14, 2014, 08:22:31 PM
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Kesha is suing her music producer of 10 years Dr. Luke, saying he was very abusive towards her and led her into a horrible spiral.

The 27-year-old entertainer alleges that Dr Luke forced himself on her sexually on multiple occasions, and often forced her to use drugs and alcohol.

“This lawsuit is a wholehearted effort by Kesha to regain control of her music career and her personal freedom after suffering for ten years as a victim of mental manipulation, emotional abuse and an instance of sexual assault at the hands of Dr. Luke,”

Kesha‘s lawyer Mark Geragos told TMZ.

“The facts presented in our lawsuit paint a picture of a man who is controlling and willing to commit horrible acts of abuse in an attempt to intimidate an impressionable, talented, young female artist into submission for his personal gain. Kesha is focused on moving her life and her career beyond this terrible time.”

Kesha ultimately wants a judge to let her out of her contract with Dr. Luke.

Earlier this year, Kesha entered a rehab program and is doing much better.
justjared (http://www.justjared.com/2014/10/14/kesha-sues-dr-luke-alleges-sexual-assault-forced-drugalcohol-use/)


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The next afternoon, Kesha claims she woke up naked in Luke’s bed, sore and with no recollection of what transpired the night before. On another occasion, Luke allegedly physically attacked her at his house in Malibu by “violently thrashing is arms at her,” causing Kesha to flee barefoot into the mountains.
buzzfeed (http://www.buzzfeed.com/reggieugwu/kesha-sues-producer-dr-luke-for-sexual-assault-and-battery/)


It's sounds so fake to me.
And she still has contract.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Luke sues back.

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Kesha is a liar who is making up stories just so she can get out of her legally binding contract with Dr. Luke ... and she tried extorting him to boot ... this according to a new lawsuit.

Luke filed suit hours after Kesha filed her own lawsuit ... accusing him of sexual and physical assault over a period of years.

But in Luke's lawsuit ... he says the pack of lies is being engineered by Kesha's mother, Pebe and Kesha's new management firm. Luke claims Kesha tried to extort him by threatening to spread lies about him to a blogger who started a "Free Kesha" website unless he released her from her recording contract.

And Luke's says in his lawsuit he's had a copy of a draft of Kesha's new abuse lawsuit for months, and she was threatening to file it if he didn't release her. In other words, he's alleging more extortion.

Luke's lawyer, Christine Lepera, tells TMZ, Kesha's lawsuit about abuse is part of "a campaign of publishing outrageous and untrue statements," calling the allegations scurrilous.

Lepera says Kesha and her mom have already admitted the statements are false.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/14/dr-luke-kesha-abuse-sexual-assault-lawsuit-contract-extortion/#ixzz3G93pRTtY
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on October 14, 2014, 08:31:08 PM
If the allegations are wrong it should have hard consequences for Kesha and Pebe. Either way this turns out - one party will be in big trouble if not even jail.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 14, 2014, 08:35:44 PM
I'd love to see that contract.
For newcomers with lots of talents, it tends to be abusive contracts.

About the substances abuse and rape allegations, Luke is way to clever to do something like that.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 08:52:58 PM
I feel like there could be some truth to Ke$ha's allegations, just like there could be lies. On a legal standpoint Luke's handling it perfectly. And Ke$ha's lawsuit is kind of inconsistent.

When you sue someone for that kind of abuse, you don't only demand to get released from a record deal.
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 09:36:21 PM
      That's true, of course, but........Kesha has alot more to lose by filing this suit.....she's not some wannabee so she's credible, but would lose all of that if proven to be a "liar"......just to get out of a contract.  Wouldn't be worth it to go to these lengths....whereas the other side? Of course they'll counter-sue and drag her character: what else can they do? Also, if her claims are true, I don't think that would pass as "extortion"!

We don't know that. We know Kesha the popstar, not the person. Same goes for Luke.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 09:58:33 PM
         This is all just one little preliminary piece......wait til the actual lawsuit filing or deposition gets leaked, like it did with Pharrell and Robin Thicke.......whole story will come out.....


The lawsuits wont tell the real story here either way. But let's say her version is looking a bit shady after the mention of her ultimate wish being the dissolution of her record deal.
Title: Re: Re: New Kesha Album (snippet by Dr Luke)
Post by: Rex on October 14, 2014, 11:28:54 PM
ok i didn't think it was true, but then an article appeared on rolling stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kesha-sues-producer-dr-luke-for-sexual-assault-and-battery-20141014
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 14, 2014, 11:40:50 PM
Filed in supreme court. Wow...

Will be interesting to see how this whole thing unfolds.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 15, 2014, 12:20:32 AM
Yes....didn't realize it before...the full copy of Kesha's Complaint in LA Superior Court is at the end of this article...     http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/read-full-details-keshas-disturbing-740699    (scroll or down arrow inside first page of Complaint -- took me a minute to figure that out ;-)

Yeah I read Kesha's, quite disturbingly detailed. Luke's seems to be not as much detailed, but if he's going that far, it must mean he really believes to have proof of what's being alleged by his side (Kesha and Pebe confessing that their allegations are false).

On the business allegations coming from Kesha, I'd love to see her contract like jfcomorales said. It's quite surprising to me, since from the information that I gather, Luke is quite professional in that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 15, 2014, 01:56:25 AM
 

      As far though, as what they keep saying how Kesha and her mom " admitted their accusations were false", NOWHERE in the complaint against her does it give proof of that. And it seems utterly ridiculous to accuse that, when she's filing a detailed, lengthy complaint like this!!!!  The two things do not compute.

      Just totally mind blowing and disturbing on every level..........


     

     Respectfully, J_A24, I don't think it means he believes anything at all! There's really nothing else someone else in his position can do........(or his lawyers can do).  Not only that -- this is what his attorneys DO.  They counter-sue every time someone has made a plagiarism accusation against him. It's their modus operandi.

There's nothing that is meant to be proven in complaints.

The fact that he goes to supreme court gives him no right for appeal in case he loses. So yeah, he's gotta be absolutely sure of the case he's building. Doesn't prove him innocent, just like your perception of Kesha being credible doesn't prove him guilty.

There's no proof of veracity in what either side is claiming right now. It will all remain in court and maybe we'll know what was proven in the end (in a long time). In the meantime, people will just chose to believe either side with no basis other than how much they like the person or popular belief.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 15, 2014, 03:28:24 AM
                     
                Also, you wrote  "There's nothing that is meant to be proven in complaints".    Of course there is!!   Kesha's lawyers are setting out specific accusations, which if it goes to trial she'll intend to prove.   

I meant that there's no evidence that's meant to be presented in complaints, which was in reply to your comment about there being no proof of Kesha and her mom admitting their allegations were false. There's no proof at all of what each side is claiming that we know of.

I brought up that statement in Luke's complaint because Luke is accusing Kesha, Pebe and Vector management in supreme court instead of building a defence case.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 15, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
  Ah, OK got you -- sorry ;-)   I admit this whole thing has really upset me (although it's morbidly fascinating, too, lol) because it calls into question so much about what the music industry is like.......I mean -- (my feelings, of course) -- if this is what goes on at the creme-de-la-creme level, which as musicians we're sort of striving for, at least musically....then.....?   It's so weird, because there's MUSIC, which is pure in and of itself, and then there's..........this.   Frightening to me.  Like who is real....even if they SEEM nice.......?

No problem. I get you, it feels weird to me too and I'm in actual disbelief that this is actually going on. The music industry has definitely it's dark sides even at the highest level, but like a friend of mine told me once: "You just take what you want out of it".

Celebrities and public figures are often portrayed as exceptional people, because of their status. But they're not safe from harm or mistakes; They're human like everyone. I just try to remain objective and not picking sides in any story or idea (besides when there's convincing evidence of what's going on) regardless of what my instinct tells me, because for all I know my gut instinct can just be heavily influenced and biased by what's being fed to me by the environment on a daily basis.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on October 15, 2014, 06:18:58 AM
I wonder if Max will be brought into this somehow? Like if there is a trial, will he be called to testify? After reading Kesha's entire lawsuit there is some pretty shocking accusations, that if true, must mean that Luke has a pattern of this behavior. If he's such an asshole though then why hasn't anyone said anything before?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on October 15, 2014, 10:18:44 AM
I wonder that too. The allegations are horrible, I don't know how long is the sentence if this turns out to be true.
But as long has there is a judgement there is the presumption of innocence.

Btw I split and merged all posts to this one thread regarding the allegations.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 15, 2014, 11:10:39 AM
wow, I don't know what to think. Could any of this be true? I really hope it's not. I can't imagine that Dr Luke would do this knowing that it would ruin his whole career. Yet, I don't know why he just didn't let her out of the contract ages ago, when that free Kesha campaign was going on. I could probably see that Dr Luke could be controlling, however rape and forcing her to take drugs? I just don't see it, he seems like he'd be a workaholic and not much time for anything else and saying things like trying to force his pregnant wife to get an abortion? really? it's all so extreme. 
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 15, 2014, 06:42:12 PM


     Very good outlook, thanks-- made me feel better.  I've often thought about  the fact that EVERY single profession, industry etc (including the legal business itself, lol) has corruption.  So you might as well just pick the profession you enjoy most, and as you wrote "take what you want out if it".

     And act well, even if it means a little less money. Because in the end, money and power will not protect you. But MUSIC  goes on.    Just ask Phil Spector..........

     

Exactly. Longevity over money all day everyday.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 16, 2014, 04:09:00 AM
wow, I don't know what to think. Could any of this be true? I really hope it's not. I can't imagine that Dr Luke would do this knowing that it would ruin his whole career. Yet, I don't know why he just didn't let her out of the contract ages ago, when that free Kesha campaign was going on. I could probably see that Dr Luke could be controlling, however rape and forcing her to take drugs? I just don't see it, he seems like he'd be a workaholic and not much time for anything else and saying things like trying to force his pregnant wife to get an abortion? really? it's all so extreme.

totally agree with this viewpoint. this big bombshell of an accusation coming out of nowhere, while Kesha is working on new music. what is she hoping to gain? money? if she wanted to be let out of her contract, and had bad blood with Luke regardless of abuse, why wouldn't he just let her work with outside producers?

definitely seems too extreme and while i think Kesha seems honest, she also is one of those people like Demi Lovato who speak so openly about their issues that it almost demeans them, and cheapens the authenticity of what really happened. so in that sense, I feel like Kesha would embellish and try to pass off certain controlling behaviors of Luke to ABUSE and FORCING her to take drugs, when he only might have encouraged them and she certainly was a party girl when she just began her career in LA. Hence, her whole first album's party theme.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 16, 2014, 06:15:41 PM
People don't sell their houses with everything inside!!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 16, 2014, 08:55:53 PM
That's probably because he wanted to pay less. A house with specific furniture is worth less than one without.

Way to attack someone when down though, doesn't surprise me coming from the snake pit that is that show.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 16, 2014, 10:27:57 PM
that doesn't really surprise me that Dr Luke would insist on having everything in the Osbourne's house. Sometimes, people want all the furniture in the house (I watch Million Dollar Listing!) However, Sharon didn't have to agree to selling the house to him, she could have gone with another buyer - obviously Dr Luke was offering the highest price.  It still doesn't mean that he's a rapist. I still don't understand how Dr Luke 'forced' Kesha to leave school - where was her mother then when she leaving school? obviously she was happy that someone was wanting to make her daughter a star.

yes, this is all so fascinating.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 16, 2014, 11:11:31 PM
Some kind of email that Pebe sent to Luke a year ago just leaked to TMZ:

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Kesha's mom sent Dr. Luke's lawyer an email a year ago ... alleging Luke raped her daughter -- but there's a distinct smell of extortion.

In the email -- obtained by TMZ -- Pebe Sebert complains that Luke screwed her out of music publishing rights connected to her daughter. She then says:

"We, me and Kesha and her friends, like Lady Gaga, are going to make all of this Really PUBLIC, in the next few days. Luke date raped Kesha when she was 18. Nicky Hilton's birthday? Paris Hilton's house? Luke gave Kesha pills. She ended up naked in his hotel room 2 days later. No longer a virgin?"


The email then gives an ultimatum:

"Do we all want this to come out? Either Luke releases Kesha from all legal contracts, and gives me back all my publishing, or we, Kesha and I, tell the truth."

And then there's this:

"And if I wind up dead, TRUST ME, IT'S IN WRITING TO CALL YOU AND LUKE."


Luke says in his lawsuit against Kesha her allegations are a pack of lies and designed to scare him into releasing her from a binding recording contract. He also claims Kesha and her mom have admitted they lied about the allegations.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/16/kesha-mom-dr-luke-extortion-email-rape/#ixzz3GLQ5YJLF

Then Mark Geragos accuses Luke of wanting to twist an email sent by an angry and concerned mom. That email was weird, it sounded more like a threat than an actual letter to your daughter's rapist. I don't know, to me this all has felt like a public campaign against Luke instead of an abuse case gone public so far.

Then this:

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Kesha spilled her guts to her shrinks in rehab about sexual and physical abuse at the hands of Dr. Luke ... so she claims.

Sources connected to Kesha's lawsuit against Luke tell TMZ ... when the singer went to rehab in January for an eating disorder, she "spontaneously" began telling doctors stories about Dr. Luke ... that he drugged her, sexually abused her and physically assaulted her.  The sources say the doctors kept notes that will become evidence in her lawsuit.

The sources say Kesha's doctors advised her she needed to stay as far away from Dr. Luke as possible and one suggested she might die if she didn't heed their warning.

As for why Kesha never went to the cops, the sources claim Kesha had a Stockholm-type syndrome ... she had been with him for more than 8 years at the time, and she didn't have "free will." 

As for Dr. Luke, his rep tells TMZ, "That's preposterous.  Just because someone says something to a doctor doesn't mean they weren't fabricated or part of an overall pre-planned campaign."

The rep adds, "Her statements are false.  It is important to note that these are just the latest in a series of bizarre public statements and actions by Kesha and her mother over the years, including Kesha's claim her vagina is 'haunted,' her drinking her own urine on her reality show, and her mother dressing up as a penis on the television show."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/16/kesha-and-dr-luke-rehab-abuse/#ixzz3GLSRMDnm

Now it's a public war, Luke's side is attacking Kesha and her mom's character aswell. It's all just foggy.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 16, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
Tomorrow I am going to start making public how Dr. Luke blackmailed me into giving him and Circuit publishing credit, on all songs I wrote on warrior, with Kesha and other writers and producers... We, me and kesha and her friends... are going to make all of this Really PUBLIC, in the next few days. Luke date raped Kesha when she was 18. Nicky Hilton's birthday? Paris Hiltons house? Luke gave Kesha pills? She ended up naked in his hotel room 2 days later, no longer a virgin? Do we want all this to come out? either this Luke releases Kesha from all legal contracts, and gives me back all my publishing, or we, Kesha and I. tell the truth."

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 17, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
STOCKHOLM syndrom ... lol, finally Max is involved too!

lol
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 17, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
        Best thing you'll read on this so far from the best source:
                 
                 http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/inside-kesha-dr-lukes-dueling-741552

       The paragraph towards the end that starts "Somwhere in the back-and-forth shots lies an ugly truth..."   expresses perfectly what I was thinking on the subway home tonight --what is the absolute crux of the matter, and seems so obvious to me.  Was gonna post my thoughts on it, but he said it there  in that paragraph exactly what I was thinking.....


I have the same question. But I don't think that Kesha's and Luke's success in music have anything to do with their integrity as human beings, that's the key. It's quite possible that Kesha is misguided and lacks better judgement just as Luke can be a destructive person.

Don't listen to what both lawyers are saying, it's all strategy, just look at facts here:

It's pretty odd that a mother writes a letter to her daughter's abuser demanding publishing rights, a contract release, naming a celebrity "friend" of her daughter as back up, and threatening to tell the "truth" about sexual abuse and making it "public" if Luke doesn't comply. It sounds pretty much like extortion and it really reflects a lack of judgement from Pebe regardless of Luke's abuse being true or not.

It's going to be very very hard for Kesha's camp to prove some of the abuse they claim against Luke since it wasn't put out to light until many years after it allegedly happened. That's why I think that legally speaking, Luke's complaint being more straight to the point and precise could definitely help his cause.

We've yet to hear any facts coming from Kesha's side, just her lawyer mouthing off Luke and emotionally exploiting public opinion by citing things like the NFL domestic violence scandal and Chris Brown.


Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on October 17, 2014, 01:28:00 PM
If all this happened so long ago - I wonder why she didn't go to the police ASAP. Then evidence could have taken.
After all this time and if there are no witness it will be hard and it's testimony against testimony.

Maybe they were a couple and things got out of hand eventually?

It's bad that everyone speculates now (including me).

It should not have been taken to the public.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on October 17, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
I think it's important that Dr Luke is innocent until any judge has spoken.
I've read speculations about Becky G "being so young and working with Dr Luke".

Even if he is not guilty in the end - these accusations will always be attached to Luke.

Maybe Ke$ha thought all would work out in the end. And now that there was this break (up) she wants revenge.
If the success would have been still enormous I don't know if she had risked to make all this public.



Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on October 17, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
That letter from Kesha's mom is pretty bad for Kesha and team. It really does smell of extortion. I agree with turnaround, Luke is innocent until proven guilty. Personally I think Kesha and Luke probably had consensual relations and this is being used against him. I think Kesha's mom might be a little out there and really just hell bent on destroying Luke for the sake of her daughter. But I also think Luke's apparent arrogance and controlling nature is coming back to bite him in the friend. I still don't believe that he did everything that is being alleged but it will certainly hurt his image big time. In Hollywood, however, as in life (but especially in that town) money and power always win. So even if Luke did do all those things we will probably never know for sure. Which really sucks if it's all a lie. I really respect Luke's talent and I'd like to think he's not the monster being portrayed. Really crazy situation.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 18, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
                        http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/linda-perry-dr-luke-kesha-741608

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Whether the statements in her lawsuit are true or false doesn't even matter, because the truth is, this shit really does happen.

I see what she means, but I think it's important to keep in mind the consequences of false allegations. I've witnessed many stories in which people were falsely accused of a crime and it's impossible for them to get back from it.

The person that made false allegations is often much better off after all of it than the person who was victim of it.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: ray on October 18, 2014, 01:47:59 PM
His image is damaged, whether it's true or not.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 22, 2014, 11:41:30 AM
oh my goodness. It does not look good for Kesha changing her story. It's hard to know if she was really intimidated by Dr Luke enough to lie or what. Dr Luke should just release her from her contract and move on, it's not like he would want to work with her again anyway. This is all so weird.

Title: KESHA vs LUKE - A Fresh Approach/Analysis
Post by: RoyFan on October 22, 2014, 06:31:58 PM
My common sense tells me this:  If someone assaults you sexually to ANY serious degree - you DON'T wait that long.
You don't actually FINISH the song you're working on - You get out of the situation. 

I have NOT read all the details and seen the TMZs etc, but I do follow pop culture and Luke and think this is
an interesting take.

There's this clip on youtube of Luke and Avril Lavigne hanging out (I post it below). 
Now as you'll see from this, their behavior isn't exactly the embodiment of sensitive.  Avril, actually in this case is
more aggressive.  The point is, it gives you a sneak preview perhaps into the "human interchange" in some of these
recording sessions.

If something legal all of a sudden came up between Avril and Luke for any reason,  then it's easy to imagine
how one side will exaggerate something that, at the time, was fun.  Something that in that youtube clip is goofy.

So another possibility - When Kesha says "sexual assault", it can be that all of it at the time was playful and friendly.  But now that there's something on the line (her contract), all this can be distorted. 

Luke has way too much at stake to sabotage his career to THAT degree.  The "you look like a refrigerator" comment is one level and maybe that's just his insensitivity, sexual assault is a whole other level that he's way too  smart to ever do.  Plus, I didn't read the details of the suit like I said but aren't there other people at these sessions usually?

Link to Avril fooling around with Luke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCGx8qcLUAQ
Title: Re: KESHA vs LUKE - A Fresh Approach/Analysis
Post by: RoyFan on October 22, 2014, 07:45:59 PM
George - that's why I said it at the top.  And openly said I was using common sense. 

There's nothing that says that when analyzing something you can't do both.  Have an overall perspective on it as well.
I frankly got the impression from the other forum that everyone was going in different directions:

i.e. - it seemed like the details STILL weren't helping because if they were good details - how could everyone still disagree so much?


out of curiosity - what impression did you come away with from reading it all?  any chance Luke really made her do drugs? assaulted her etc?
Title: Re: KESHA vs LUKE - A Fresh Approach/Analysis
Post by: RoyFan on October 22, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
Also George, I know it's an emotional topic, but I come in peace I promise :-)  You seem like you're intelligent from previous threads. 
I think I also have something to offer and an analytic mind.  Was simply using a different approach as it can be interesting.  It's not a competition on the thread.

It's all good my man.   

Like I said the "details" didn't seem to be that good since everyone that read them were going in polar opposite directions -  I openly said mine was a different approach..

Would love to know your opinion and why? :-)
Title: Re: KESHA vs LUKE - A Fresh Approach/Analysis
Post by: Adam B on October 22, 2014, 08:42:11 PM

out of curiosity - what impression did you come away with from reading it all?  any chance Luke really made her do drugs? assaulted her etc?

I wonder why they were asking about those specific incidents in the old lawsuit, the plane and 'roofies'? Seems like someone knows about things that happened while they were on drugs..
Title: Re: KESHA vs LUKE - A Fresh Approach/Analysis
Post by: Jules on October 23, 2014, 01:56:03 AM
First of all: mods, please merge this with the actual thread, no need to spam the forum with extra threads of this boring topic.

Secondly:
I must admit I don't follow the topic at all, cause it bores me and I'm just annoyed by people's desire for drama. I don't even have an opinion about it, neither am I taking any sides or add to the drama by making up the weirdest conclusions.

I do though have to say that this comment of yours...

My common sense tells me this:  If someone assaults you sexually to ANY serious degree - you DON'T wait that long.
You don't actually FINISH the song you're working on - You get out of the situation.

...is really really dull and leaves a really lame impression of what you call "your common sense". There have been thousands of cases of sexual harassment/abuse, where victims have only come out and sued 20, 30 years after (or even longer).

So, as I said, I'm not parttaking in the Ke$ha/Luke discussion, but that comment of yours was really...worthless.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on October 24, 2014, 01:25:29 AM
Jules, there's noooo need to be aggressive.  People that are confident in their intelligence aren't.  I don't make "snap judgements" on people's intelligence from 3-4 sentences.  Can you imagine what a cruel world it would be if everyone did that?
Like Starbuck baristas muttering under there breath about people's wardrobe when they just innocently walk in wanting some
coffee.

You make a great point about people living in shame/fear with that.  And I did think about that actually right after I posted.

Just because there are so many cases though, doesn't mean there aren't lots of cases when people also get away from the situation pretty fast as well. 

So I don't know, but I think a lot of the cases you mentioned, are with people that live together, which makes it particularly
hard to break free for the abused. 

So my gut in THIS PARTICULAR case says she's exaggerating.  But we'll have to wait to see how many more artists "come out"
against Luke - her lawyer claims there are lots.

But please I beg you chill out, I know it's tragic lots of people go through it.  It's not Armagedon, it's a  forum.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on October 24, 2014, 01:35:29 AM
i.e. - discussions aren't a series of intellectual "knock out blows"
you could have said everything you said but with a gentler tone..  "worthless" and "dull" -

just throwing out negative energy into the world..... 
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Jules on October 24, 2014, 09:02:17 AM
you could have said everything you said but with a gentler tone..  "worthless" and "dull" -

I know I could have. But, no need to doubt my intelligence - I actually did want to use these exact phrases! :)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Eddie Krommer on October 24, 2014, 05:54:42 PM
This fight is getting interesting. Not the one with Jules  ;D

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6296536/wayne-coyne-dr-luke-kesha
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 26, 2014, 10:18:05 AM
I don't really know what it's saying there, so Pebe had no idea about any rufie back in 2011. Seems that Pebe was okay with Kesha working with Dr Luke as they needed the money.

As for Wayne Coyne saying that Dr Luke was restricting Kesha's creativity, probably true, but how good were these songs that they were writing? probaby terrible. I've said it before, but Dr Luke just needs to let her out of her contract.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 26, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
I mean, if you're into Top 40 music, obviously you're not into psychodelia and stuff like The Flaming Lips because it's not your thing.

But say it's terrible music because you're not into it, is disrespectful.

About the songs, I think Luke obviously is a business man and thought Kesha would lost his "profile" doing stuff with Wayne Coyne, whom is a massive pop fan.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 26, 2014, 09:07:24 PM
yes, sorry, it was rude of me, I'm not into the Flaming Lips, I shouldn't have called it terrible, others might like it.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 26, 2014, 10:46:01 PM
Maybe the songs were indeed terrible, who knows...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2014, 04:49:21 AM
There are not bad songs, there are songs that you don't like.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on October 27, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
There are not bad songs, there are songs that you don't like.

True, but in this context of having an actual pop record with coherence, maybe the songs we're terrible based on how everything else sounded, not only talking about the songs with Wayne Coyne.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2014, 08:26:11 PM
I would love to hear these.
The Beatles version featuring Miley sounded really good.

About this, I'm pretty sure Luke did something about her royalties... and releasing her means lots of non-earning royalties.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Adam B on October 28, 2014, 01:04:06 AM
 
           Plot keeps getting thicker-er.........excerpts from unsealed 2011 deposition of Kesha's mother released today......
              https://www.scribd.com/doc/244406004/Kesha-lawsuit-Pebe-Sebert-Dr-Luke-2011

Seems money is the number one thing motivating these people, whatever lies to make a buck.. did it then and probably does it now. I feel the truth is somewhere in the middle. Inappropriate things happened though, was kesha forced to do things against her will??
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 28, 2014, 05:39:17 AM
Seems money is the number one thing motivating these people, whatever lies to make a buck.. did it then and probably does it now. I feel the truth is somewhere in the middle. Inappropriate things happened though, was kesha forced to do things against her will??

no. she has been a self-professed party animal. her music, her image, watch her MTV doc. she's obviously eccentric, from drinking her own piss to writing a song about having sex with a ghost to her general free spirit attitude. she's not this innocent virginal flower who Dr. Luke corrupted. I strongly believe this. she has him to thank for producing her songs and giving her hit songs.

I guess I'm more team Luke. but whatever. this argument is useless.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 29, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
http://www.stereogum.com/1715096/dr-luke-sues-keshas-mom/news/

Since the beginning of the Kesha/Dr. Luke situation, the producer has asserted that Kesha’s lawsuit was engineered by her mother, Pebe Sebert, as a way to get the pop singer out of her contract. Dr. Luke has already filed a defamation suit against Kesha, and now, according to TMZ, he has also filed a lawsuit against her mother, “claiming she orchestrated a smear campaign of sexual lies against him and extorted him to boot.” The lawsuit seems to be based around the previously revealed fact that Kesha swore under oath that she had never had an “intimate relationship” or been given roofies by the producer. Dr. Luke is seeking “more than $75,000 in compensatory damages and punitive damages on top of that.”
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on November 01, 2014, 06:24:56 AM
Quote
Lily Allen Dresses as Dr. Luke for Halloween Amid Kesha's Claims

(http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2014/10/lily-allen-dresses-as-dr-luke-for-halloween.jpg)

Lily Allen wears a doctor’s uniform with a name plate reading “Dr. Luke – Gynecology Dept.” while heading into Kate Hudson’s Annual Halloween Party
http://www.justjared.com/2014/10/31/lily-allen-dresses-as-dr-luke-for-halloween-amid-keshas-claims/ (http://www.justjared.com/2014/10/31/lily-allen-dresses-as-dr-luke-for-halloween-amid-keshas-claims/)

I'm not sure — is she pro or against?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 01, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
oh, she seems against Dr Luke.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 09, 2014, 08:37:55 PM
Mark Geragos -Kesha's lawyer- tweeted, "Guess who the rapist was?" Someone responded and asked if it was Luke, and Geragos replied, "#bingo."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/02/dr-luke-rape-lady-gaga-sexual-assault-kesha-lawyer/#ixzz3LQnNV7jy
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on December 10, 2014, 09:20:52 PM
Quote
#bingo
That's so stupid. It's obviously not Luke — he and Gaga from different times and, let be honest, she's not any pretty.

She even made a statement it's not Luke. Why Kesha's lawer still don't sued for lying?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on December 11, 2014, 02:59:25 AM
That's so stupid. It's obviously not Luke — he and Gaga from different times and, let be honest, she's not any pretty.

She even made a statement it's not Luke. Why Kesha's lawer still don't sued for lying?

So if Gaga was pretty then it'd be OK to rape her?  :o
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on December 11, 2014, 10:03:15 AM
Dr. Luke Sues Ke$ha's Lawyer For Lady Gaga's Rape Tweets
Record producer Dr. Luke filed a defamation case against Kesha's attorney after the latter accused him of raping Lady Gaga.

Dr Luke has never been alone with [Lady Gaga], has never touched her and has met her only twice for very brief periods of time,"  The Guardian reported.

A representative of Lady Gaga also denied the allegations. "The Dr. Luke lawsuit is utterly incomprehensible. This simply isn't true and how dare someone take advantage of such a sensitive matter," the rep said.

The lawyer stood by his claim and declared that he was telling the truth. The attorney revealed that he wants Lady Gaga to testify in Kesha's case against Dr. Luke.
The record producer reportedly abused three other women, who are all ready to be witnesses.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on December 11, 2014, 10:32:44 AM
So if Gaga was pretty then it'd be OK to rape her?  :o

yeah, for sure, rape has nothing to do with if someone is pretty or not.

But agree that Kesha's attorney should not have lied and said that it was Dr Luke. I'm glad that Lady Gaga's representative has denied this.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: ihavemorales on December 11, 2014, 09:22:30 PM
Rape is no joke, but I know the situation, and this is really unfair for Doctor Luke. They had a consensual relationship at one point and he broke it off when he signed her. Her mother is a nutcase and even she knows it. Surprised the Doc hasn't filed a restraining order.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on December 13, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
Quote
California law

Luke lived in NYC till 2007.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 14, 2014, 01:37:28 AM
I'm not sure about this, but if you file a lawsuit in California, it rules by the laws in that state...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Voodoo on December 14, 2014, 11:47:47 PM
I know this is a discussion board but can we just cooool it?!!! Why give this subject any more energy when the truth is NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING. Let the courts have the battle and lets stick to talking about music, production, and positive things that we DO know about
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on December 15, 2014, 04:25:32 AM
I think this Kesha lawsuit is fascinating. It's very interesting to hear that Kesha may have had a relationship with Dr Luke, big age difference, but it does not surprise me.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on December 15, 2014, 06:32:17 PM
Another interesting facet of this, at least to me is:

From the first time I saw him interviewed and from other various sources which describe how he is with some artists in the studio, and things he did as a teenager (I helped edit a book that mentions him amongst other new music makers) - I perceived something surly/sarcastic about him beyond the typical narcissism that one sees in that business. 

Whereas with Max, though there are tales of how controlling he is with singers in the studio, which probably can't be fun for the singers,  OVERALL I perceived something much kinder/sincere/humble at his core, though he has every right to be 100 times the prick that Luke comes off as.

So for me, what will be most interesting if we hopefully ever find out details here:  Is not a question of "if" but "how much" -  To WHAT degree is he like that. 

It seems like all the really great musicians are very emotional beings, so when they're warmer/nicer (Max) it shines through, and when they're not, they may try to hide it a bit but it also comes through.  Luke, at least to me, seems to have a bit of a ruthless drive (and I'm happy about that to the extent that his drive has contributed good music to the soundtrack of my life) , as opposed to other successful ones who are driven with a real hard work ethic.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on December 15, 2014, 06:34:25 PM
and by the last sentence, I didn't mean that Luke doesn't work hard himself :-)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on December 18, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
Interesting RoyFan. I agree, Dr Luke does seem to have more of a ruthless drive, especially in a business sense. I'll be interested to hear the outcome too. Are you able to tell us what book you helped edit?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on December 24, 2014, 07:36:51 PM
Kesha's Birthday Card to Dr. Luke Added to Defamation Lawsuit

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/12/23/1223-kesha-birthday-card-dr-luke-1.jpg)

"You just keep getting hotter every year" -- and includes a handwritten note from Kesha which starts with the words ... "To the FOXXY-est producer EVER! Thank you 4 helping me make my WILDEST dreams come true!" She closes with a gushing, "I LOVE YOU!"

Also in the docs --  emails Luke  got from Kesha's mother: "I hope you know, as much as you have been there for Kesha and me, that we will always be there for you, as family, and friends, if you need anything."
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rex on December 25, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
This is getting crazy hahahaha
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on December 26, 2014, 04:17:59 PM
Please everybody don't kill me for saying this - but honestly I really think that card (amongst other things) might clinch it for his side

Yes there are people who suffer quietly after being victimized.  But it's rare that someone is soooooo nice considering something SO INSIDIOUS is lurking underneath - impossible? No..but rare - and courts
often go with "likelihood" for better or worse - that's how it works - especially in cases when there's no absolute barometers , hard core empirical truths

The ONLY thing you might be able to say is that her and her Mom are Sooooooo Concerned about being Politically Correct or Polite that they felt that they had to write the card.

But again, they went Above and Beyond being pedestrian polite -  Yes everyone suffers in their own way.  Is it possible that they're constituted psychologically in such a guilt ridden matter
as to TOTALLY sweep it under the rug and be sooooo nice..yea it's POSSIBLE...but not very likely.. there's a REASON his lawyer advised him to reveal that card

And if anyone disagrees I'd love to hear  - please do so thoughtfully and respectfully - like I wote this - there was a guy last time I posted on this thread that was super judgemental
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: RoyFan on December 26, 2014, 04:21:23 PM
and a follow up to my own follow up :-)   This also kind of seems to give the impression (maybe not truth, but the impression)  that their attitude comes and goes like style.  When it's good for them to be nice to him they are.  And when he poses a threat or inconvenience, they change their tune.  Not a good thing for a court case.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on December 26, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
And if Kesha is soft-mental and was victimized, her mother wasn't.

#bingo
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on January 27, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Kesha is back on stage. Performing in Brazil.

She sang a secret verse to "Timber"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p7hmhc9B5o
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rex on January 27, 2015, 09:59:31 PM
Here's the "secret" verse. I think she originally sing throughout the whole song, but then came mr worldwide and...
So, you say you wanna g-g-get ratchet
you can get a life life b*tch
I got a hatchet
chainsaw, timber, you’re going down
on top of those DJs like i’m a clown
turn around and shake that friend for me
show me that human anatomy
brazil, you’re bad, but i’m way worse
y’all go down first
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 01, 2015, 10:40:50 AM
what an awful verse! ugh
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on March 20, 2015, 11:06:34 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/kesha-wins-round-nasty-legal-783379?facebook_20150320

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on March 22, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
oh dear, not good for Dr Luke. However, even if Kesha wins this whole thing, her career will never be the same.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on March 22, 2015, 03:47:17 PM
oh dear, not good for Dr Luke. However, even if Kesha wins this whole thing, her career will never be the same.

My feeling is that it will be settled out of court. Kesha will be released and allowed to pursue future music endeavors free of Luke, and Luke will be able to keep her past catalog and exploit it if he wishes. No info, just what I think.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on April 03, 2015, 09:18:07 PM
She performed with HAIM

"You're Love Is My Drug"

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153241521154459

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 09, 2015, 07:12:44 PM
Kesha Claims Sony Puts Female Artists in "Physical Danger" in Dr. Luke Lawsuit

An amended complaint asserts that Sony Music has "forced an abusive relationship" between singer and producer.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/kesha-claims-sony-puts-female-801219

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: ShockdioN on June 09, 2015, 08:48:21 PM
this whole thing is just blaaaah
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Jules on July 02, 2015, 06:33:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geit7cCuTzM

So she sues Dr. Luke for SEXUAL ABUSE but keeps performing his songs? lol
Does that make ANY sense??  ::)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 09, 2015, 06:11:09 PM
According to TMZ, in new court documents filed as Kesha’s response to Luke’s countersuit, the singer claims Dr. Luke threatened to kill her dog if it approached him during one of their recording sessions. TMZ reports that the documents also have the star claiming Luke threatened to remove her mother, Pebe Sebert, from the songwriting credits.

Additionally, according to these same court papers as reported by TMZ, Kesha claimed Luke talked openly about cheating on his wife and trying to blackmail her into having an abortion. Dr. Luke’s camp has denied all these accusations, as they have with every claim from this case.

http://www.idolator.com/7599806/kesha-dr-luke-lawsuit-threaten-kill-dog-abortion
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on July 09, 2015, 06:18:52 PM
According to TMZ, in new court documents filed as Kesha’s response to Luke’s countersuit, the singer claims Dr. Luke threatened to kill her dog if it approached him during one of their recording sessions.
Absolutely understand him there!
TMZ reports that the documents also have the star so, Kesha is the star in this case, yeah? lol claiming Luke threatened to remove her mother, Pebe Sebert, from the songwriting credits.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on July 09, 2015, 07:04:22 PM
On a comedy note, here's what they wrote today in TheIndependentUK:

"Kesha, 28, owns 5 dogs: Magic, Beau, Murray, Little Mexican and Little Doe. It is not known which one was allegedly threatened".

:D
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on July 09, 2015, 07:34:50 PM
       ^   ^   ^
  I'm gonna go with "Murray". Just a hunch.
If you don't hurry
I'm gonna kill Murray
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on July 10, 2015, 12:28:38 PM
what a ridiculous thing to put in a lawsuit, that Dr Luke threatened her dog.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Polarmachine on July 10, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
PATHETIC to mention the thing about him talking about cheating on his wife etc. Thats not part of Keshas case.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: gm33 on September 23, 2015, 04:45:17 PM
This is back in mainstream news and was trending on Facebook and Google News.

"Kesha Warns Her Career Will Be Over Without Injunction Against Dr. Luke"

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6700773/kesha-injunction-dr-luke-sony-music
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Cheiron Meets Thizz on September 24, 2015, 08:25:59 AM
[insert comment about her stupidity here]

not much more to say about someone who messes up a good thing going for themselves
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Voodoo on September 26, 2015, 04:21:04 AM
   Check out this pathetic press release about Dr. Luke's latest smash collaboration, LOL!!!

          http://hamadamania.com/2015/09/24/dr-luke-hints-at-new-collaboration-with-fergie/

He aint writing hits these days.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on September 26, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
He's nr. 6 on Billboard hot 100 as we speak. In my world that is pretty much a hit, no?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: volkanyurdabak on September 26, 2015, 05:48:13 PM
Dark Horse hit #1 last year.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Cheiron Meets Thizz on September 26, 2015, 11:22:21 PM
He's nr. 6 on Billboard hot 100 as we speak. In my world that is pretty much a hit, no?

Nope.


Nowadays radio only has 4 songs in rotation
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 27, 2015, 04:29:35 AM
Nope.


Nowadays radio only has 4 songs in rotation

Again, I guess we're not here to reduce music to "hits".
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on September 27, 2015, 07:03:02 PM
Nope.


Nowadays radio only has 4 songs in rotation

4 songs?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on October 06, 2015, 08:51:35 AM
Quote
Artists can be forced to record a song, then it becomes a hit and suddenly when it comes to the next album they go ‘well I had a hit so now I want creative control’.
It’s like ‘you only had that hit because we forced you and you didn’t want to do it!’.

These Savan words is clearly from the start of Kesha/Luke fight, the Die Young phase "I was forced, I want creative control, #freekesha".
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 06, 2015, 11:11:29 AM
Dr Luke should just let her out of her contract, let her write and record whatever songs she wants to. This whole thing is ridiculous. I'm sure she's made enough money so that she barely needs to work again anyway.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 06, 2015, 04:26:21 PM
These Savan words is clearly from the start of Kesha/Luke fight, the Die Young phase "I was forced, I want creative control, #freekesha".

I didn't see her unconfortable.
Actually she wrote all her songs...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 06, 2015, 10:16:10 PM
   I agree, Rebecca :)   But I'm not so sure about the money part......she's only 28.....long life ahead of her....

yes, that is true! she'll have to be very frugal.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 30, 2015, 11:14:12 PM
this is never going to be settled. It's very difficult for Kesha, her word against Dr Luke's. If he is a rapist, surely there are other women he's raped?
I still don't actually believe Dr Luke raped Kesha. But of course, if he lets her out of this contract, it's like his admitting it, so then he can't.
The longer it goes on, the worse it is for Kesha, getting older and older, her fans may forget about her. oh dear.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: ShockdioN on October 30, 2015, 11:48:33 PM
her sound wont sound the same without dr Luke. She will probably make blah music without dr Luke
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on October 31, 2015, 02:00:20 AM
Kesha loses any which way. She gets out of her contract good luck finding a-list producers interested in working with her. She stays locked in and they will shelve her. I think it might be affecting dr luke business though, a trial is stressful to go through and really sucks the inspiration out of you.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on October 31, 2015, 02:45:28 AM
Wow, a lot of hate here for Luke. Unless you guys have some kind of first hand info, not sure why you're jumping to conclusions. If Dr. Luke did what Kesha said he did, then sure, vilify him. But why are you so sure he's guilty? Cause if he's not guilty, what he's doing now is EXACTLY what any innocent person in his position SHOULD do.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 31, 2015, 07:31:47 AM
Yes, George you are right, it will be settled once they go to trial, hopefully it's not dragged out forever.

I actually don't think that Dr Luke raped her. It's just too extreme.

Agree, this has not helped Dr Luke's career, he's barely had a hit.

I don't hate Dr Luke. I'm in the middle. Yes, let's wait for the trial.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2015, 12:56:02 AM
           ^    ^    ^
   The word "hate" is such a cliche. It doesn't figure into my own thinking. Have you LOOKED at Twitter recently and typed in the name Dr. Luke? THAT'S hate, some of it quite frightening.  Not into that.

   Anyway, as for me, I actually called on people in the Forum to send him our SUPPORT when Kesha kids were calling for his head for calling her fat. Guess what: no one responded.

    But then came Kesha's lawsuit.

     I don't like people who threaten girls by saying they'll ruin them, threaten their families etc. For me, that's even more despicable than even the accused crime. And why am I so sure?  Simple: unless Kesha is A.) extremely stupid, which doesn't seem likely, or B.) a pathological liar (also unlikely) it defies logic that she would put herself in this position, risk everything -- for.......what, exactly? 

    So you can call it "hate" if you like, but I see a young woman with the courage to go up against a powerful man and a powerful machine because she's sick of putting up with abusive treatment, and wants OUT of the situation.....so yeah:

    I'm 100% on her side.
   

But how are you so sure her claims are legit? Unless you have some kind of inside info?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2015, 01:01:06 AM
Yes, George you are right, it will be settled once they go to trial, hopefully it's not dragged out forever.

I actually don't think that Dr Luke raped her. It's just too extreme.

Agree, this has not helped Dr Luke's career, he's barely had a hit.

I don't hate Dr Luke. I'm in the middle. Yes, let's wait for the trial.

I'm in the middle as well. I've personally heard stories about both sides that are negative, but I don't know what the truth is in this matter. I've seen artists lie to try to get out of contracts before. I've seen people in Luke's position do horrible things to their artists. But whether or not Luke did what Kesha is claiming, no one knows the truth. I don't understand how people are jumping to conclusions about this. Just because they are public figures doesn't make that okay. These are people's lives and reputations. Unfortunately word travels very fast on the Internet and is sometimes taken for gospel. I think it's irresponsible to pick a side with 100% certainty without having actual information besides what someone is claiming in a lawsuit. Not sure if you guys know this, but in America you can pretty much sue anyone for anything. Doesn't make those claims legit.

Let's wait until this plays out in the courts before we jump to conclusions.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on November 01, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
    Fascinating points...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
                   

Haha
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on November 01, 2015, 06:08:41 PM
I'm in the middle as well. I've personally heard stories about both sides that are negative, but I don't know what the truth is in this matter. I've seen artists lie to try to get out of contracts before. I've seen people in Luke's position do horrible things to their artists. But whether or not Luke did what Kesha is claiming, no one knows the truth. I don't understand how people are jumping to conclusions about this. Just because they are public figures doesn't make that okay. These are people's lives and reputations. Unfortunately word travels very fast on the Internet and is sometimes taken for gospel. I think it's irresponsible to pick a side with 100% certainty without having actual information besides what someone is claiming in a lawsuit. Not sure if you guys know this, but in America you can pretty much sue anyone for anything. Doesn't make those claims legit.

Let's wait until this plays out in the courts before we jump to conclusions.

Very well said, agreed.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sand_bar on November 02, 2015, 02:23:30 AM
does anyone know if Dr. Luke is too much of a liability for Max Martin to work with?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on November 02, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
That's what I really wonder too. Will be interesting if they re-unite any time soon.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 02, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
Yes, I wonder the same. Max hasn't worked with Dr Luke in ages.
I also wonder if maybe it's the reason Katy Perry won't be working with Dr Luke on her next album (I think).
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 03, 2015, 04:37:39 AM
Luke has an exclusive contract with Sony, he shouldn't work with people from other labels.
Actually, they made an exception about working with Katy, who's in Capitol.

Luke also signed a joint venture between Big Machine and Prescription Songs... but I don't know what happened with that.

I think he's focused on the business.
Max is doing the same with Wolf Cousins, mostly supervising the projects.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 03, 2015, 11:26:57 AM
It was hard to take all of that in. Hopefully they can decide soon. But I do have to wonder, if she was so abused by Dr Luke, why did she work with him/sign that contract? was she so under his spell and so desperate to be famous?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on November 03, 2015, 03:28:17 PM
I can't wait for court decision so I can legally call Kesha a liar.

That doc in link is even worse than papers from previous year and more obvious screaming the whole company is faked to get money.

1. They didn't quoted real answer from Sony
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The letters in response indicated Sony believe...

2. Such beautiful phrases for official document.
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a grave risk of irreparable harm,  idly and passively wait as her career tick-tocks away

3. It's illogical.
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Kesha is therefore legally free to work with anyone. But she cannot do so because other record labels are aware that Dr. Luke intend to enforce the exclusivity provisions.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on November 03, 2015, 05:54:20 PM
If I was Kesha, I'd just release a bunch of free music on soundcloud.

Just like these guys did:

https://soundcloud.com/lechaucollective

 :P

But seriously, Luke's never gonna give in when his name was dragged on the mud by Kesha. Wether the accusations by Kesha regarding abuse and rape are true or not, the smart thing would've been separating personal life from business, and it's baffling her team didn't go that way. Would've been easier to prosecute Luke for the other stuff if she had separated both aspects of the conflict.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 03, 2015, 08:21:15 PM

But seriously, Luke's never gonna give in when his name was dragged on the mud by Kesha. Wether the accusations by Kesha regarding abuse and rape are true or not, the smart thing would've been separating personal life from business, and it's baffling her team didn't go that way. Would've been easier to prosecute Luke for the other stuff if she had separated both aspects of the conflict.

Totally agree, Dr Luke will never give in.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 03, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
  Well it's unlikely he whisked her off to some hideout and started in on her the minute she arrived in LA, right? :-)   

Yes, true. It would have been after she signed a contract. However, it still puzzles me why she has waited so long to say anything. I think she'll find it very hard to prove he date raped her.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 04, 2015, 02:12:09 AM
This is getting weirder and weirder with time...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on November 04, 2015, 10:27:10 AM
  You may be right on that last part, but I think that incident is just one part of the whole picture.
         The one thing that's sure: it really takes some doing to turn your best selling label artist against you on the level she's against him.

Yes, it does. I feel very sorry for Kesha. I hope this whole lawsuit doesn't end up ruining her whole life.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 04, 2015, 03:32:04 PM
There's a thin line between "what I see in you as an artist" and an abusive relationship.
If you're working with a creative person, you know they're way more sensitive and sometimes have some issues.
I tend to think she was insecure -weight issues, for example- and that put Luke in advantage, he was in a position of control and for someone who's having some self steem issues, it could be devastating.

In other hand, if the contract is in fact so abusive... it's like being a prisoner.
And when you're starting your career and you have an opportunity like that, you just take it and you don't even think about legal assistance.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sweetmelody on November 04, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
The way it's looking right now I see Kesha dropping the case and resuming her career with Luke. I don't think they'll work together in the same room, but she'll still be signed to him and finish out her deal.

Whether you believe her or Luke, this seems to be the most logical conclusion for her. The court will not allow her to work with other people while this case goes on. I would be truly shocked if they did. Second, if she goes ahead with this, don't forget she recently dragged Sony into this. Her career with major labels will effectively be over. And that means her career as Kesha, the money-making pop star is done.

So the next step will be probably be: let some time pass, reach some sort of compromise with Luke, and eat your words. She'll probably say her mom forced her to do it, or she was going through drug abuse and/or depression. I think the writing is on the wall for her, and you can see it in the latest comments from her team.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on January 03, 2016, 07:16:18 AM
Kesha sending pr-releases with misleading "Demi Lovato had Issues with that Rapist too"

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/28a728eaa3c7c9feb36ab7a68797832c/tumblr_o0c3oougsx1tulhy0o3_500.jpg)

So lame.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on January 03, 2016, 09:43:49 AM
When millions of dollars are involved, people can go crazy.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on January 03, 2016, 10:23:02 AM
That doesn't surprise me at all that Dr Luke would want his song to be the first single. I'm sure it's a common request from producers.

Yes, people definitely go crazy when so much money is involved!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on January 03, 2016, 04:24:55 PM
Remember when Break A Sweat was released, I thought it was Demi?

DANG!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on January 03, 2016, 08:33:57 PM
Not surprised
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Adamoadam on January 24, 2016, 08:01:14 PM
If this horrible stuff with Dr. Luke is true I will be deeply upset. I hope that Kesha would still work with Max tho...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: gm33 on January 26, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
Today's court date has been postponed due to the snow storm. It's now Feb. 19.

"Fans were expected to gather outside the New York State Supreme Courthouse on Tuesday (26Jan16) as part of the #FreeKesha movement."

"Ke$ha was hoping to learn if her bid to rip up a Sony contract with hitmaker Dr. Luke was successful on Tuesday (26Jan16), leaving her free to record new music with a new label, but the case has been postponed."


http://www.noise11.com/news/music-news-kesha-courtdate-postponed-due-to-nyc-weather-20160126
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 04, 2016, 06:01:27 AM
Kesha's mother wins lawsuit against star's producer Dr. Luke after he accused her of defamation
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Luke's lawyers apparently couldn't prove Pebe had control over Kesha and there were also 'jurisdiction issues' which persuaded judges to throw out the case.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3430882/Kesha-s-mother-wins-lawsuit-against-star-s-producer-Dr-Luke-accused-defamation.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3430882/Kesha-s-mother-wins-lawsuit-against-star-s-producer-Dr-Luke-accused-defamation.html)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 07, 2016, 06:30:33 AM
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'This never happened!' Kelly Clarkson slams Kesha fan site accusing record producer Dr. Luke of 'making her cry'
while they were working together on their song Since U Been Gone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3435468/Kelly-Clarkson-slams-Kesha-fan-site-accusing-record-producer-Dr-Luke-making-cry.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3435468/Kelly-Clarkson-slams-Kesha-fan-site-accusing-record-producer-Dr-Luke-making-cry.html)

So much lies from Kesha.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 07, 2016, 10:23:50 AM
I'm glad that Kelly disputed that.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 11, 2016, 06:44:49 PM
kesha's mom ‏

Quote
The day in 2005, when Luke told Kesha, that she was "Nothing without him", I was there and so was Max Martin.
Max Martin heard Luke say "If you don't do exactly what I say, I will keep you tied up in litigation until you are too old to make a record"
So there is a witness, If he would be willing to tell the truth!

Dr Luke is trying to BLACKMAIL ME, into taking my name off "Timber" as a songwriter, by blocking all 16 writers from being paid. Or, I can just agree to have my name removed as a songwriter, so he will pay the other 15 writers! NOW,  2 years since TIMBER was a hit , my punishment for "TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIM", is to be responsible for everyone not being paid!

https://twitter.com/grannywrapper (https://twitter.com/grannywrapper)

She seems mental. New rehab wanted.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 19, 2016, 06:59:46 PM
It's over. Luke won.

Kesha forced to keep recording with Dr. Luke, judge rules
Pop star Kesha burst into sobs in Manhattan civil court Friday when a judge announced she would have to keep recording with Sony and music producer Dr. Luke
Manhattan Supreme Court Friday when a judge denied her request for a preliminary injunction that would have temporarily nullified her contract with Sony Records.

Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Shirley Kornreich explained Sony would suffer irreparable harm if Kesha was not compelled to abide by a contract that requires her to make six more albums with the company.

The judge added that to grant the release requested by Kesha would undermine the state's laws governing contracts.

Kesha, in a dramatic all-white outfit seated in court next to her mother in a back row, looked stunned as she shed tears over the ruling.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2537523.1455900828!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/kesha20n-1-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Polarmachine on February 19, 2016, 07:28:21 PM
wow 6 more albums! Crazy how big contracts you sign.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 19, 2016, 08:08:29 PM
I wouldn't mind to have a record contract.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 19, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
wow, over so soon. I thought this was going to go on forever.

yes, 6 more albums is huge. Oh well, it's a warning for young singers not to sign such huge contracts, just sign 1 or 2 album deals, but of course they'll never want to do that because they are all so desperate for success and will sign anything.

So, what now for Kesha? There's no way she can record with Dr Luke again after all that she's said about him.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 20, 2016, 04:32:33 AM
"Sony would suffer irreparable harm if Kesha was not compelled to abide by a contract that requires her to make six more albums with the company."

Oh come on. That is so dramatic. I'm no expert in record contracts or the business side of these companies, but I'm pretty sure they're doing fine and it's not like she is their star recording artist. "Irreparable harm"? I get that a contract is a contract and she signed it, but... I think they would be fine if they let her go.

And wait: can't she stay with Sony and just record with other producers? Does she HAVE to record with Luke? (But I mean, that is a fantasy to imagine; another 6 albums with Kesha & Luke/Cirkut jams. I love all the stuff they've done together. Electro pop magic.)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 20, 2016, 06:14:01 AM
Yes, I agree. It wouldn't have harmed Sony one bit to let Kesha out of her contract. But I suppose it would have made Dr Luke look guilty if they did so and then other artists would want the same if they got a better offer.

Yeah, I just read that Kesha can work with other producers at Sony. 6 albums is lot to get through though.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on February 20, 2016, 01:57:22 PM
Kelly Clarkson tweeted also about the case.

https://twitter.com/kelly_clarkson/status/700804809499271168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I'm quite irritated. What is her issue with Dr Luke?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: 21kickback on February 20, 2016, 03:45:10 PM
LMAO kelly's an asshole, she's just mad because of luke and max were kind of tough on her when she was recording all her track with them. She didn't like the fact that they told her what to do and didn't really like her ideas. Supposedly luke went as far as telling her that her songwriting was trash but who knows if that is actually what he said. I was surprised to see that no one has sided with luke especially producers. Like what if luke is saying the truth and she is just trying to get out of her contract. Or what if kesha did have sex with him but she did consent but now that she wants to get out she is just saying that he raped him. As producers I think we should give luke the benefit of a doubt and be on luke's side because what if this happened to any producer and no one believed the producer and only the artist just because she's a girl and sheds a couple of tears. They'res barely any proof and luke even presented a card kesha gave him for his birthday calling him "foxy". I am somewhat disappointed to see no producers, no matter how prestigious or small you are, be on luke's side. I would like to give him the benefit of a doubt but I don't know I just wish some more people took luke's side. Anyway will this affect luke's collaborations? Like will less people want to work with him because of this incident?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on February 20, 2016, 04:35:20 PM
I'm on Luke's side and wait what the judges say. He is innocent until proven guilty. So annoying people judge him already.

Are there pics of Luke from the court?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: saethor on February 20, 2016, 07:08:34 PM
I think I read somewhere that Luke wasn't there.

Here's a Facebook post from Mark Beaven, CEO of Advanced Alternative Media (AAM, the company that manages Luke, Cirkut and many others) about this:

(http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6359/4iRG5d.png)

(http://imageshack.com/a/img921/7905/1d5aX9.png)

Now being part of Luke's management he's obviously on his side in this, but it's pretty interesting to hear details of that side of the story.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 21, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
Yeah, I am surprised there has not been support for Dr Luke from other producers. Why haven't we heard from Benny Blanco or Cirkut who would have been in the studio with Dr Luke and Kesha recording her albums. Or even to hear from Katy Perry?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 21, 2016, 05:57:20 PM
At least Katy Perry didn't twitted #freekesha
They used to be "close" friends from the very beginning. So she knows the truth.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 21, 2016, 09:37:03 PM
http://www.idolator.com/7624293/demi-lovato-tweets-support-kesha

The number of celebrities echoing #FreeKesha have multiplied since that hearing, to now include Brandy, Lily Allen, Lorde, Janelle Monae, Iggy Azalea, Sara Bareilles, Wale, Jack Antonoff, JoJo and Alessia Cara. Still, Demi calls for even more people — specifically, “self-proclaimed feminists” — to speak out. “Women empowerment is speaking up for other women even when it’s something uncomfortable to speak up about,” she says.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 22, 2016, 09:42:17 AM
Taylor Swift secretly donated Kesha 250 000.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Tano87 on February 22, 2016, 02:16:57 PM
I don't know what to say about this whole story.
Real or not Sony could have separate Ke$ha from Dr Luke, but it would have been like saying that Ke$ha was right.
Sony would never free Ke$ha because Dr Luke bring money to Sony and if they cut Dr Luke in any way they will lose a lot of money.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 22, 2016, 05:15:17 PM
The New York County Supreme Court on Friday found that Kesha is already 'free' to record and release music without working with Dr. Luke as a producer if she doesn’t want to. Any claim that she isn’t 'free' is a myth." Lepara added that Sony Music has already invested $11 million promoting Kesha.

Nor has she ever offered a credible explanation as to why she would have signed a second recording agreement, recorded two albums and an EP and signed a publishing deal with Dr. Luke after allegedly being sexually abused.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/dr-luke-kesha-free-to-record-music-rape-accusations-outright-lies-20160222 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/dr-luke-kesha-free-to-record-music-rape-accusations-outright-lies-20160222)


Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on February 22, 2016, 05:24:41 PM
Taylor Swift secretly donated Kesha 250 000.
This is so weird. Luke has not worked with Taylor for a reason then? Whenever Max works with an artist these days and Luke is not involved is it because the artists refuse to work?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Khan9898 on February 22, 2016, 05:51:21 PM
Its very difficult for anyone to support Dr. Luke in this because its a very sensitive subject. How can someone prove rape and or sexual abuse when the damage has already been done? The music and entertainment industry is notorious for turning a blind eye.

Taylor Swift probably can't speak up against what is happening because A. She is under Sony B. She works with Max. Ariana Grande also tweeted supporting stuff towards Kesha. But the entire music industry and judicial system is so bs its outrageous.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: saethor on February 23, 2016, 12:19:02 AM
Luke speaks out on Twitter: (www.twitter.com/thedoctorluke (http://www.twitter.com/thedoctorluke))

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Until now I haven’t commented on the lawsuits, which should be resolved in court not here on Twitter.

It’s a shame that there’s so much speculation out there basing itself on so little information.

The only truly objective person who knows the facts is the judge.  The judge did not rule in Kesha's favor on Friday

I understand why people without all the information are speaking out. I can appreciate their compassion.

But lives can get ruined when there’s a rush to judgment before all the facts come out. Look what happened at UVA, Duke etc.

of course any sane person is against rape and sexual assault but everybody who is commenting is doing so without knowledge or facts.

They are getting behind an allegation only - motivated by money.

I didn’t rape Kesha and I have never had sex with her.  Kesha and I were friends for many years and she was like my little sister.

Kesha has denied under oath the horrible allegations now being made against me.  Here is the testimony.

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Kesha's lawyer Mark Geragos made another false rape claim against me that was denied by publiscly Lady Gaga

Publicly

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Mark Geragos (kesha's attorney) represented Scott Peterson and Chris Brown.  How can he pretend he cares about women's rights?

Imagine if you or somebody you loved was publicly accused of a rape you knew they didn't do.  Imagine that.

I have 3 sisters, a daughter, and a son with my girlfriend, and a feminist mom who raised me right.

Kesha and I made a lot of songs together and it was often good but there were creative differences at times.

It’s sad that she would turn a contract negotiation into something so horrendous and untrue.

But I feel confident when this is over the lies will be exposed and the truth will prevail..

I want to thank all my friends and family who have supported me throughout this.

This is an ongoing legal case so I won't be responding / talking much about this.  This should be tried in a court of law.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Wolf Cousin on February 23, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
It's amazing how people always choose the side of a self proclaimed 'victim'. Kesha knew this.  From the moment someone is called a rapist people will always question that person, no matter how many times that person denies it. Because 'That's what rapists do, right?'. Even if it's proven to be a lie, the damage has already been done.

Why nobody from Dr. Luke's team speaks up? I think he may have asked them not to. I think he wants to keep this as small as possible cause it will only fuel the fire. 
I'm a big Taylor Swift fan, but the fact that she donated money to this loonatic downright pisses me of.


Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 23, 2016, 11:03:13 AM
I'm glad Dr Luke responded. Nicely done.

Yeah, it is surprising how quick people were to support Kesha, when there hasn't been any evidence from Kesha.
I'm surprised too that Taylor donated to Kesha.

Bob Lefsetz has written a blog about it:
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2016/02/22/kesha-vs-dr-luke/

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on February 24, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
Yeah, it is surprising how quick people were to support Kesha, when there hasn't been any evidence from Kesha.
I'm surprised too that Taylor donated to Kesha.
Many celebrities are severe feminists and when there's a target to hit they don't really think about it twice.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 24, 2016, 10:59:08 AM
This is so weird. Luke has not worked with Taylor for a reason then? Whenever Max works with an artist these days and Luke is not involved is it because the artists refuse to work?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sa9qeV6T0o
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on February 24, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
We are assuming the fact that both of us by B.o.B ft Taylor swift (which she was credited as a writer) doesn't count?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on February 24, 2016, 04:20:36 PM
Both of Us was from Strange Clouds album and today Luke twitted

https://twitter.com/bobatl/status/696382162476605444
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on February 25, 2016, 03:13:00 AM
Yes, that was weird. Thanks god max didn't work with B.o.B yet, I throroughly dislike him since the "Flat earth" incident. Although Magic was a nice song.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Polarmachine on February 25, 2016, 01:09:36 PM
Rolling Stones did a great article covering the fact that no Kemosabe/Prescription Songs people speak up.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/10-questions-we-still-have-about-the-kesha-legal-drama-20160224?page=3 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/10-questions-we-still-have-about-the-kesha-legal-drama-20160224?page=3)

What will happen to the other artists on Kemosabe?
The Kesha case has generated a lot of public outcry, and public outcry tends to land on the most visible names, whether or not they have power. Dr. Luke's other artists and songwriters have, understandably, been near-silent about the case. Their contracts are almost certainly no cushier than Kesha's – if anything, they are likely more restrictive – and almost certainly contain a non-defamation clause, the likes of which are being very publicly enforced. And informally, speaking out against Dr. Luke would likely be career suicide.


But this is if they would be on Kesha's side. If they are on Lukes side I don't see the point in not defending him. This kind of makes me think Luke has been a dick to Kesha on one way or another. I believe him though, when he says he didn't rape her or had sex with her.

But he might have been bossing her around, and making Kesha feel bad about herself with awful comments on her body and her performance in the singing booth.

Like everyone else I'm just speculating.
This is so depressing, I have been a Luke fan for 4-5 years and I love watching his ASCAP EXPO talks etc. I'm still siding with Luke in this case and I hope it all is untrue.

If Kesha wants to never work with Luke again, she now HAS the chance to work with other producers, Luke's lawyer said that. So why doesn't she? Unless it has always been about getting released from the pub-deal with Luke and the Kemosabe record contract...
It doesn't make sense to let her go imo, when they are actually pointing out that she CAN work with other producers.

(If Luke is guilty of rape, then obviously, FUCK HIM! But it is word against word here and you can't deny that Kesha has other reasons to let all this out now, 10 years later!!!)

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 25, 2016, 03:03:25 PM
This whole thing is about the publishing deal.
That's where the money is.

Kesha even wrote for Britney and had hits on her own.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on February 25, 2016, 11:41:16 PM
So this year Luke will be working legally with other artists outside Sony... It's a pity that feminists all over the Industry are expressing their support towards Kesha, we can only think that future Luke collabs are only from people who are on a more neutral side.
The whole thing is still a mess, Max and Luke didn't produce a song since the lawsuit was made (If we don't count Once in a Lifetime), which is quite suspicious after all these year crafting hits together. The overwhelming support of Kesha is still a surprise to me, these celebrities talking based on little facts is quite suspicious... I hope they could only talk because they really know the truth as they are part of the industry.
BTW, did anyone see the BTS of The Best Damn Thing by Avril Lavigne? It's Luke there and even though he is a nice partner when he was in the studio with her, I saw that he is particularly a pretty impulsive guy, not to say that that means he could rape Kesha but if they built such a strong relationship why they didn't work again on a new record? They don't even follow each other on twitter.
This was just a bunch of random thoughts on Luke but well xD, maybe I went a little too far.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Cheiron Meets Thizz on February 27, 2016, 08:35:54 PM
So this year Luke will be working legally with other artists outside Sony... It's a pity that feminists all over the Industry are expressing their support towards Kesha, we can only think that future Luke collabs are only from people who are on a more neutral side.
The whole thing is still a mess, Max and Luke didn't produce a song since the lawsuit was made (If we don't count Once in a Lifetime), which is quite suspicious after all these year crafting hits together. The overwhelming support of Kesha is still a surprise to me, these celebrities talking based on little facts is quite suspicious... I hope they could only talk because they really know the truth as they are part of the industry.
BTW, did anyone see the BTS of The Best Damn Thing by Avril Lavigne? It's Luke there and even though he is a nice partner when he was in the studio with her, I saw that he is particularly a pretty impulsive guy, not to say that that means he could rape Kesha but if they built such a strong relationship why they didn't work again on a new record? They don't even follow each other on twitter.
This was just a bunch of random thoughts on Luke but well xD, maybe I went a little too far.

Not only on the neutral side but some might fear that working with him will result in a backlash. It's a shame that all someone has to do is say something and then cry in court and without any evidence everyone will support their claims. I saw one poll of pop music fans and over 94% all said they believe Kesha . . for no reason, most completely unaware of Dr. Luke or his character and yet they still pass judgement. In another thread I saw people disrespecting his mother for defending him and one making violent statements against Dr. Luke
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on February 28, 2016, 06:00:00 PM
That's very surprising too, common sense always leads to be on Luke's side. But celebrities keep making us doubt. Yesterday I saw Charlie Puth apologising for not saying anything about Kesha last week. I was shocked because he talked as if he was rude or something for not talking about the topic, insane. The only thing that makes sense to me is that celebrities indeed know more than us and I feel bad because I was really looking forward for Luke's new music.
As a big Lady Gaga fan I'm also surprised on how much she is getting involved on the cause. She keeps defending her as if she was her little sister or something.
Also... did you see the amount of people hating on Katy Perry for not talking about the topic? A few days ago more than 3/4 of her Twitter responses were the hashtag.
The pressure the people is putting is getting out of control, Luke's career at this point is likely to be permanently damaged.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on March 02, 2016, 11:07:46 AM
George, yes it is an intelligent thing to say by Akon, it's what should have happened so long ago before it all went to court and got so nasty.

If Kesha was that miserable, Sony should have just come to a financial agreement and let her go. Now, it's gone past that point. They would probably feel that it's an admission of guilt by Dr Luke. I've also hoped that Dr Luke is innocent, however, it doesn't really matter as it has probably ruined Dr Luke's career anyway, singers will no doubt hesitate to work with him.

I'm also wondering when Kesha will work with other producers at Sony.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 03, 2016, 10:22:58 AM
Dr. Luke's mom and sister finally spoke up.
Called Taylor Swift and Adele the witches.

And some family info I never read.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466298/Kesha-lying-blackmail-son-Dr-Luke-s-mom-lashes-theprot-g-claims-producer-drugged-raped-18.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3466298/Kesha-lying-blackmail-son-Dr-Luke-s-mom-lashes-theprot-g-claims-producer-drugged-raped-18.html)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3471336/It-s-like-Salem-witch-hunt-Dr-Luke-s-sister-lashes-List-stars-like-Lady-Gaga-supporting-Kesha-claiming-destroying-family.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3471336/It-s-like-Salem-witch-hunt-Dr-Luke-s-sister-lashes-List-stars-like-Lady-Gaga-supporting-Kesha-claiming-destroying-family.html)

Mother
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Sister
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Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on March 03, 2016, 11:00:03 AM
Thanks for that, I'm glad his Mum and sister spoke out. Yes, it is terrible that so many celebrities are speaking out when we haven't even had the rape trial yet.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on March 03, 2016, 12:58:57 PM
When your career is peaking and there's a lot of money to be made of you everything's peachy.Someday you start to fall and there's nobody to lean on. That is disgusting. Kelly Clarkson and Miley Cyrus owe Luke (his songs) their careers, they should at least shut their mouth before the trial is over.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 03, 2016, 02:57:08 PM
before the trial is over.

The result of the trial is predictable — he is innocent, but none of taylorswifted "Kesha supporters" will take their words back, apologize to Luke. Some will lie "I thought we were talking about her record contract, not a rape".

They don't care about Kesha, none of them bothered to read about her "rape", they don't care about raping victims, kids with cancer, they don't care about people behind limelight who making their music (as Taylor Swift wanted make fans to believe, but acts opposite to it).

Supporting Kesha is a good publicity, supporting Luke is a bad publicity. Money.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Wolf Cousin on March 04, 2016, 01:20:19 AM
When I first read about this a year ago I was laughing and thinking: ''No way anybody is going to be fooled by these obvious lies''. My god, was I wrong...  The backstabbing by these artists is just scary. I heard that Calvin Harris and Luke were pals so I expected he would talk some sense into Taylor. Luke might not have been the most pleasant person to work with at times and I guess he can be a little cocky but nobody deserves this.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 07, 2016, 05:26:44 PM
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He’s not a good person to me. We’ve clashed, but I can’t really say anything other than that. Her fans are like, ‘Oh, why don’t you stand up for her?’ I wasn’t there. I don’t know what happened specifically in their situation. Obviously I wasn’t in the room. But I can remark on his character. Unfortunately when you have that poor of character, like so many artists don’t like you and don’t like working with you. You know, that’s not normal. I get along with everybody I work with. He’s just not a good guy for me.

Obviously he’s a talented dude, but he’s lied a lot. I’ve run into a couple of really bad situations, musically. It’s really hard for me because he’ll just lie to people, and it makes the artist look bad. He’s kind of difficult to work with and kind of demeaning. It’s just kind of unfortunate.

The last time I worked with him, I only worked with him because literally I got blackmailed by my label. They were like, ‘We will not put your album out if you don’t do this.’ It was a really hard time for me. And I tried to make the best of the situation.



Kelly Clarkson (https://soundcloud.com/kiis1065/7316-kyle-and-jackie-o-show-449)

(http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/styles/tout_image_612x380/public/i/2016/03/07/kelly-clarkson.jpg?itok=J6YuLm20)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on March 08, 2016, 11:11:56 AM
wow, that is totally harsh from Kelly! and very ungrateful considering Dr Luke co-wrote 3 big hits for her. How would Kelly's career be without Since U Been Gone?

I would love to know what Katy Perry thinks of all of this.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on March 08, 2016, 11:45:24 AM
Is she talking about the "My life would..." collaboration?

Somehow Luke is described the complete different to Max. I wonder how they got along.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 08, 2016, 05:00:27 PM
Luke is described the complete different to Max

I can't believe these descriptions. Kelly always known for dissing her surroundings, she has huge ego that can be found in her "women empowering" interviews for magazines like Cosmo "There is a lot of bad people around me all the time, but my heart is so big and clear and I forgive all the sinners. I'm so good."

Human communication as a fragile thing. Martin is as rude as Luke.

Max Martin Emotionally Raped Ariana Grande the whole Time

"I fought [co-producer Max Martin] on it the whole time," Grande tells Time magazine. "'help me God!' Max was like, 'It's funny -- just do it!' It's make me cringe sometimes."


Max Martin Raped Creative Freedom of Samantha Jade

“I wasn’t allowed to write anything. it’s Max Martin — he chooses who he wants to write with

Real story behind Kelly songs
Clive Davis

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Kelly was beginning to work on her second album.

As we were gathering material for the album, however, I met with the songwriter-producer Max Martin, who had some songs he had written with his partner Luke Gottwald, that he wanted to play for me. He told me that because of his extensive work with the likes of Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys, he had somewhat gotten a reputation for softer pop artists, and he wanted these songs to be done by rock artists because he was tired of being typecast.

The songs were 'Since U Been Gone' and 'Behind These Hazel Eyes'. I heard them, and told him that I really loved them both. Then I told him that I wanted them for Kelly Clarkson. He instantly lost his cool. 'Are you crazy?' he said. 'Didn't I tell you that I wanted these songs to go to rock artists? That I didn't want to be typecast? Now you want to give them to an American Idol winner!'

The fact is that I wanted Kelly to have those songs for the very reason he had written them. Both songs had a sharp rock edge, but were still capable of being pop hits. They would push Kelly in a promising direction for her, while maintaining and even growing her audience. I had a long relationship with Max dating back to Ace of Base, so I was able to calm him down and try to reason with him. 'You don't understand,' I said. 'Kelly's got a great voice, she's got real potential, and she likes edge. Look, you'll produce it. You'll get the right performance. If you don't get the right performance, I'll understand if you don't want to let the songs be used. But you've really got to give this a shot. I believe so firmly that this will be great for her. And for you.' We spent a long time discussing it, and finally, based totally on my relationship with him, he said yes.

Max and Luke are very strong, hands-on producers in the studio. They are intent on getting perfect vocal performances, and are relentless in that pursuit. It was hard for Kelly, who had come from the high of winning American Idol and then having a double platinum album. You're young, everybody recognizes you everywhere you go. It's heady, and all that attention affects all Idol winners.

But then suddenly you're in an entirely different world of making records in a studio, and you have to take direction. Kelly didn't like it. Max and Luke were relentless in getting the right performance of their song. Kelly got her back up, and from her perspective, she had a horrible experience in the studio.


She'd never work with them again, she said. Then, after all the work was done, I listened to the performances. They were terrific. I could not have been more thrilled. This was a whole new direction for Kelly, so far away from 'A Moment Like This', which defined her first year's experience.

With the air cleared, I did work on Kelly's 2009 album All I Ever Wanted. One track I brought in was 'My Life Would Suck Without You', written and produced by, lo and behold, Max Martin and Dr Luke.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 08, 2016, 07:59:48 PM
I can't believe these descriptions. Kelly always known for dissing her surroundings, she has huge ego that can be found in her "women empowering" interviews for magazines like Cosmo "There is a lot of bad people around me all the time, but my heart is so big and clear and I forgive all the sinners. I'm so good."

Human communication as a fragile thing. Martin is as rude as Luke.

Max Martin Emotionally Raped Ariana Grande the whole Time

"I fought [co-producer Max Martin] on it the whole time," Grande tells Time magazine. "'help me God!' Max was like, 'It's funny -- just do it!' It's make me cringe sometimes."


Max Martin Raped Creative Freedom of Samantha Jade

“I wasn’t allowed to write anything. it’s Max Martin — he chooses who he wants to write with

Real story behind Kelly songs
Clive Davis

I wouldn't say Luke is not a nice person, but he's such a character.
Remember: he was a drug dealer when he was a teenager and has a WEIRD sense of humor.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 09, 2016, 06:39:10 AM
Wasn't the drug a weed?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Khan9898 on March 09, 2016, 08:56:58 PM
Multiple sources saying Sony will be dropping Dr. Luke as a producer.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on March 09, 2016, 11:32:25 PM
Dr. Luke Denies That Sony Music Is Dropping Him

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6978195/dr-luke-sony-music-kesha-report-denied
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Tano87 on March 10, 2016, 09:23:59 AM
Dr Luke stems/samples leakes online
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 10, 2016, 05:46:05 PM
Some big Pebe tear-jerking interview on Billboard. About absolutely nothing: mother instincts on intention of Devil to destroy a happy family, why Katy Perry don't want to be a friend of a famous Kesha, and illogical demonizing the POOOOWER of pop-producer.

Her attacking on concept of a record contracts (she said word "owns" multiply times) makes her look like such an irresponsible hippie. Who she really is.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6980931/kesha-dr-luke-battle-inside-story-mom-pebe-sebert-interview-exclusive (http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/6980931/kesha-dr-luke-battle-inside-story-mom-pebe-sebert-interview-exclusive)

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(A Sony representative tells Billboard that, following an internal ­investigation, they found no evidence to support Kesha's allegations of sexual abuse.)

She was a prisoner. Luke would say, 'You look nice today,' and send her into ­hysterics of happiness because she was programmed to expect nothing but abuse.

I wanted Kesha to come forward a long time ago and end this relationship with Dr. Luke immediately after the [alleged] rape, But if she wanted to have a shot at the music business, she had no choice but [to work with him].

On Oct. 5, 2005, Kesha and Dr. Luke attended a birthday party for Nicky Hilton. According to Kesha's 2014 lawsuit, Luke raped her after giving her what he called "sober pills". This, the suit alleges, is what allowed him to "bring [her] back to his hotel room alone and rape her while she was unconscious." The ­documents don't specify a date.
By midafternoon the day after the party, Pebe had grown concerned after ­calling Kesha multiple times and getting no response. (On an average day, Pebe says, the two spoke by phone every six to eight hours.) Finally, her mother maintains, Kesha returned her call, saying she had woken up naked in what she believed was Dr. Luke's hotel room. "Mom, I don't know where I am. I think we had sex. I'm sore and sick. I don't know where my clothes are. I think I need to go to the hospital."
Pebe says that a friend of Kesha's picked Kesha up and drove her back to her ­apartment. (Kesha never went to the hospital.)
"At some point over the ­following few days I called my best friend and pored over the details," Kesha recalls in the 2015 affidavit. "I had only had a few drinks but after I had taken this 'sober pill' I blacked out." Says Pebe: "Looking back, I don't know why we didn't go to the police. Kesha told me not to do anything. She said, 'Mom, I just want to sing. I don't want to be a rape-case victim. I just want to get my music out.' I didn't follow my instincts."

Luke and Max Martin met Kesha and Pebe for lunch to discuss who should become Kesha's manager. She wanted to sign with David Sonenberg, Luke wanted Larry Rudolph. Kesha wound up in tears after Luke grew frustrated, slammed his fork down and lectured them on his authority over her management. The two walked out of the restaurant and didn't communicate with Luke again for two years.

Kesha would tell me she was going to take her car to Mulholland and drive off the cliff. She was a little dramatic, but I never knew for sure.

"Dr. Luke just called me and I have 24 hours to fire my lawyer and my ­managers and go back with him. Anytime I get a contract, Dr. Luke is going to come ­forward and basically say he owns me. What do I do?"

In late 2008 or early 2009, Dr. Luke flew with Kesha to New York
"I do remember her calling me from the plane telling me that she was so drunk, and [how] Dr. Luke came over and started making out with her and was all over her," says Pebe. "She told me she felt terrible and was trying to get away from him and then vomited."

Pebe also claims that Dr. Luke ­interfered with her personal and professional ­relationship with her daughter while Kesha was recording her debut album, Animal. He refused to let Pebe work on the music, even though he had promised he would.


A former Jive executive says Luke "has a massive ego" and is known to be ­"difficult" to work with. One top music manager who has known Luke for more than 20 years, and whose roster includes best-selling pop and rock acts who have worked with him, says, "Luke is a terrible person. He's very talented, obviously -- he's a guitar player interested in pop beats -- but he's ­diabolical. No one likes dealing with the guy. He'll do anything to f-- over everyone. This thing with Kesha is a perfect example. He could have let her out of the deal a year ago -- her career was already on its downside -- but he's such an asshole he just wouldn't do it."

Veteran publicist Elizabeth Freund has known Luke (who is not her client) since he was 11 years old, when she was his sister's camp counselor. "There's not one speck of doubt in my mind that he didn't commit these allegations. He's a loving father and an incredibly generous family member. I've seen really good ­relationships with the people he has worked with for years. He's strong, kind and a loving and utterly good man.


With Kesha's success: "This is when Luke started getting really hateful," Pebe says. "He saw her as a cash cow and started manipulating her all the time. She thought all her dreams were finally coming true, but this was just a f--ing trip to hell. He said she wasn't fit enough. On one song Luke wanted her to sing a lyric that included the phrase "some fat bitches in the bar."
Pebe says Luke "physically backed Kesha into a corner, where she was curled up in a ball, crying and fearing for her life" shaking his fist and screaming at her, after Kesha refused to sing the "fat bitches" lyric. Kesha climbed up nearby mountains and hid so he wouldn't be able to find her, then, says Pebe, called her manager to come pick her up.

Pebe says that Luke constantly criticized Kesha, saying things like, "Katy Perry is so much better than you. You're not a good writer," Kesha and Perry were once close friends, "before they both got famous," says Pebe.

"I really believe that the further this thing got with Dr. Luke, the less control she had and the worse her bulimia got, because it was the only thing [that gave her] control."

Kesha "was genuinely scared," says Pebe, and would sometimes hire security to sit in the ­driveway of her Nashville house. "Luke almost destroyed us," says Pebe. "And he has done it intentionally."

Dr. Luke basically owns Kesha until her death. He doesn't have to give her any money and is under no time constraints. She can't legally put any new music out, or he can and will sue her.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Wolf Cousin on March 11, 2016, 08:40:10 AM
The samples that were leaked are fake.  ;)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Polarmachine on March 11, 2016, 11:01:51 AM
The samples that were leaked are fake.  ;)

Really? Were does it say that?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on March 11, 2016, 07:51:58 PM
Download them and you'll see :)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: J_A24 on March 12, 2016, 09:09:26 PM
The "dope hits" folder is cool though.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 22, 2016, 06:47:36 AM
Kesha Appeals Court Ruling Forcing Her to Keep Sony Contract

Mark Geragos says in official lawsuit (the one, who twitted Dr. Luke raped Lady Gaga)

Quote
slavery was done away with a long time ago' and that 'you can't force someone to work … in a situation in which they don't want to work

It looks like Kesha's attorney wants to earn more money with obviously losing lawsuit.

(http://media.thethaovanhoa.vn/2016/02/24/11/09/kesha-kien-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 22, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
It's not about the money, I think.

It's about working under inadequate circumstances.
Basically, working with someone you don't get along with.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: JamesSongwriter on March 30, 2016, 01:34:40 AM
Shocked at the anti-Kesha comments in this thread.

You can respect and love Luke's work and music without ignoring the fact that he had a toxic relationship with Kesha and she shouldn't be held prisoner to his label when they can't work together and he won't let her release music.

I don't know if the rape happened or not, but some people in this thread have said some pretty dodgy things. No one knows what really happened apart from Kesha and Luke, so no one should be making assumptions about it.

Plus, it's quite telling that Max has had nothing to do with Luke since Katy Perry's last project, even producing several songs on there without him.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Wolf Cousin on March 31, 2016, 11:37:44 AM
she shouldn't be held prisoner to his label when they can't work together and he won't let her release music.

It's pretty clear he didn't rape her. She even swore under oath it didn't happen. Everything points against her. So destroying someones life like the way she is doing is a horrible thing to do. I wouldn't ''release'' her in a thousand years if I was Luke.  Not until she publicly apologizes and takes back everything she said.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: JamesSongwriter on March 31, 2016, 10:33:15 PM
It's pretty clear he didn't rape her. She even swore under oath it didn't happen. Everything points against her. So destroying someones life like the way she is doing is a horrible thing to do. I wouldn't ''release'' her in a thousand years if I was Luke.  Not until she publicly apologizes and takes back everything she said.

It's pretty clear? Before making assumptions, maybe read through this journalist's investigation (via Tweet) on the situation. Press 'show more' to see the rest.

https://twitter.com/kelleylocke/status/701893071940755457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

This alleged rape happened a LONG time ago, in 2006-7. She tried to get out of his contract back then but when it became clear he was never going to let her go, she decided to work with him as she knew it was her only shot at success.

I am not saying she was raped or she wasn't raped - I can't and neither can you. Because the rape trial hasn't even started yet. But it is completely inhumane and ridiculous to keep an artist shackled to someone who they obviously seriously don't get along with. Luke was refusing to ever let her release any music - is that fair?

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Voodoo on April 01, 2016, 07:07:06 AM
The contractual stuff is BUSINESS PEOPLE!!! And it's frickin' politics.

Put yourself in Dr Luke's... or the Label's shoes: an artist you invested in (Ke$ha) wants to leave your label, but she still needs to make you some money back by releasing a few more albums. Let her go... and what kind of example are you setting for the other artists and artists in the industry in general? What if Becky G now wants to leave the label... does she just get to up and go too? What about all the lost money and invested money to promote a global pop-superstar? When do they recoup that money? And why would the label get rid of an artist NOW... that is in the public eye so much? Kesha could release a fart right now and it will probably be a hit because of all her media coverage. The label won't want to let that go!!!

I beleive in occams razor: the simpler solution is often the right one.

Do you think Kesha got signed to a label, was making hits, appearing happy, touring, bringing her family on-board (even though the knew Luke was toxic?), making more hits, making a TV show, writing a book, all the while she was verbally and mentally abused, date-raped, pushed around and bossed around and felt completely controlled by Luke.

Or... the simpler solution...

She no longer wanted to play the "dumb" pop-star role she was in and wanted out of it, and would do or say anything to get out of it?





 
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: JamesSongwriter on April 01, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
The contractual stuff is BUSINESS PEOPLE!!! And it's frickin' politics.

Put yourself in Dr Luke's... or the Label's shoes: an artist you invested in (Ke$ha) wants to leave your label, but she still needs to make you some money back by releasing a few more albums. Let her go... and what kind of example are you setting for the other artists and artists in the industry in general? What if Becky G now wants to leave the label... does she just get to up and go too? What about all the lost money and invested money to promote a global pop-superstar? When do they recoup that money? And why would the label get rid of an artist NOW... that is in the public eye so much? Kesha could release a fart right now and it will probably be a hit because of all her media coverage. The label won't want to let that go!!!

I beleive in occams razor: the simpler solution is often the right one.

Do you think Kesha got signed to a label, was making hits, appearing happy, touring, bringing her family on-board (even though the knew Luke was toxic?), making more hits, making a TV show, writing a book, all the while she was verbally and mentally abused, date-raped, pushed around and bossed around and felt completely controlled by Luke.

Or... the simpler solution...

She no longer wanted to play the "dumb" pop-star role she was in and wanted out of it, and would do or say anything to get out of it?





 


The second part of your post is complete supposition because we don't know. The music industry is a lot darker than we think, it'd be naive to blindly swallow the tidbits of information that get leaked to the showbiz press.

In my opinion, making music is very personal and collaborative and to force Luke and Kesha to work together after such a relationship deterioration is not fair. Her argument is that the contract she signed has been violated. If the issue really is money related (Kesha is Kemosabe's only true successful artist), Sony should step in and move Kesha out of the imprint to work with other producers whilst still paying Kemosabe their share in her success (although if this mistreatment of an artist is true, you could argue they don't deserve a cent). It's a tough one.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 01, 2016, 06:54:20 PM
I think the contract is abusive.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on April 01, 2016, 11:44:48 PM
I thought that the judge said that Kesha can now work with another producer at Sony and doesn't have to work with Dr Luke anymore. So why doesn't she? I don't know who the other producers are, though I think that Sony woud have a wide reach.

Which record company does Kesha want to be signed to? I would have thought they'd all be quite controlling. Or do you think she wants to self-publish?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 02, 2016, 01:34:40 AM
Someone posted that Luke doesn't want to free Kesha from their contract just because he doesn't want to.
To piss her off.

And it makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on April 02, 2016, 07:00:50 AM
  A good article which answers a lot of your questions (I think :-) Rebecca.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-02-23/why-sony-music-can-t-easily-cancel-kesha-s-contract   Main point to your question about other producers at Sony is that under his arrangement with Sony, basically those producers still report to Dr. Luke ultimately.  I get the judge's points, but I don't think she understands how things work in the real world -- or underworld -- of the music business.

Thanks George, that is a fascinating article. Yes, it helped explain it. Kesha is really caught here. I can't see a good outcome for anyone at all.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 02, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
Let us know when Kesha makes that public apology and full confession!

I will. I think, this autumn.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 04, 2016, 07:08:05 AM
Why Billboard wrote it was Dr. Luke? Kesha did not wrote it, but IF IT WAS DR LUKE SHE WOULD wrote "Dr. Luke offered me..."

If it was Luke — how he could release her from Sony contract?
If it was Sony — do they care about "raping" part of a deal?

It's yet another manipulation of a public opinion. Maybe her lawyer offered this new plan to her (sounds reasonable). Yet another proof she is a liar and mob is stupid.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 05, 2016, 09:23:16 AM
If Kesha really been offered out of her Sony contract she could not waste these money on new lawyer and get what she asking for now while Sony are winning on every legal front.

UPDATE

a spokesperson for Dr. Luke said in a statement to Rolling Stone Kesha's recent claim is a 'publicity stunt'
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kesha-i-got-offered-my-freedom-to-rescind-dr-luke-rape-claims-20160403 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/kesha-i-got-offered-my-freedom-to-rescind-dr-luke-rape-claims-20160403)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on April 07, 2016, 02:48:54 PM
Kesha Rape and Abuse Claims Against Dr. Luke Dismissed by Judge

http://pitchfork.com/news/64638-kesha-rape-and-abuse-claims-against-dr-luke-dismissed-by-judge/?mbid=social_facebook
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on April 07, 2016, 05:57:47 PM
And she still attacks on instagram. She will probably never stop. But it's the judges in democracy that REALLY judge - not people on social media.

He is a free man - and has all the right to sue her now - both careers are probably ruined. (though it's good to see Jennifer Lopez recorded a song by him)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: ShockdioN on April 23, 2016, 12:43:16 PM
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/article22687219.ab

Zara Larsson goes against Dr Luke. "He's not the friendliest"
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 24, 2016, 11:00:40 AM
He is still alive
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12965193_967650126616883_1590637728_n.jpg)
Circut's GF BD
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on April 24, 2016, 12:35:05 PM
Probably in situations like these you recognize the real friends among the lot.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on April 25, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
I'm glad Circut is still friendly with Dr Luke, at least it looks like it.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 25, 2016, 06:34:21 PM
Zara Larsson said it better: he's such a talent, you can't take that away from him.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: sand_bar on April 27, 2016, 07:10:38 PM
He is still alive
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12965193_967650126616883_1590637728_n.jpg)
Circut's GF BD

Whoa, where is this from?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 28, 2016, 07:18:25 AM
Quote
Pebe Sebert has dropped her counterclaims for “intentional and negligent infliction of emotional distress based on the alleged abuse”. She's also recently split with attorney Mark Geragos (who twitted Dr. Luke raped Lady Gaga).

“She has decided to move on and find peace and forgiveness in her heart rather than dwelling in the cancerous past of an ongoing lawsuit with no end in sight” Pebe's lawyer told...

"Pebe's voluntary withdrawal of all her claims against Dr. Luke is her acknowledgement that her claims are meritless," says attorney for Dr. Luke.

Dr. Luke is still suing Sebert for defamation and “tortious interference”: Kesha schemed with her mother to elevate a contract disagreement into a "smearing" of Dr. Luke, and when alleged extortion failed, circulated emails to bloggers and others in the industry accusing Dr. Luke of rape.

Luke's attorneys plan to depose Kesha and Pebe in June.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/keshas-mother-drops-counterclaims-dr-888275 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/keshas-mother-drops-counterclaims-dr-888275)

Peace and forgiveness for 10 years of "raping"? Failed to create a better lie?

Will Kesha drop her lawsuit too? I want to see her official defeat.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on April 29, 2016, 12:08:38 AM
Btw - Kesha has a new song out.

Zedd feat. Kesha - True Colors

It's released on Interscope/Kemosabe/RCA
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on April 29, 2016, 02:32:29 AM
That was fast and boring, but.. I kinda understand since it's the same song with just a new set of work with kesha's vocals.
Dr Luke thanked Zedd for making clear that Kemosabe allowed the release of the song but in the end of his tweet finished with suspensive dots and that confused me on how is he taking the situation. Kesha's really into this promoting the song and being grateful for having zedd, maybe she's trying a little too hard...
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on April 29, 2016, 12:13:41 PM
Btw - Kesha has a new song out.

Zedd feat. Kesha - True Colors

It's released on Interscope/Kemosabe/RCA

brilliant song
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 29, 2016, 07:31:09 PM
https://twitter.com/zedd/status/468232035543158784

https://twitter.com/TheDoctorLuke/status/572672419539918848
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on April 29, 2016, 11:11:04 PM
I like the Kesha/Zedd song, but don't love it. Kesha sounds completely different, if I didn't know it was Kesha, I wouldn't have known who it was. I'm sure it will be a huge hit.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on April 30, 2016, 06:48:33 AM
It's funny because when Zedd's album leaked and anyone had the singers' of the uncredited tracks, this one particularly was said that it could be Kesha, I listened the song and I really thought the first 30 seconds that it could be her, after that it sounded male-ish. So sad no one will ever care about Tim James, although he is very excited about her, a lot of retweets lol.
I think Rock Mafia could fit into the new Kesha sound, I liked a lot of their work with Selena. I'm expecting a lot from Kesha in the near future and this is a proper comeback.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 01, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
It's funny because when Zedd's album leaked and anyone had the singers' of the uncredited tracks, this one particularly was said that it could be Kesha, I listened the song and I really thought the first 30 seconds that it could be her, after that it sounded male-ish. So sad no one will ever care about Tim James, although he is very excited about her, a lot of retweets lol.
I think Rock Mafia could fit into the new Kesha sound, I liked a lot of their work with Selena. I'm expecting a lot from Kesha in the near future and this is a proper comeback.

Actually, my faves are the ones they did with Miley's sister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHscWM0gWPk
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on May 01, 2016, 07:06:06 AM
Actually, my faves are the ones they did with Miley's sister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHscWM0gWPk
Wow, those are actually pretty good, I didn't know Miley had a sister, I did know that he had a brother who was I think the lead singer of Metro Station, so funny they have a family full of... singers.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Wolf Cousin on June 20, 2016, 11:51:55 AM
Still no updates on the Dr. Luke vs. Kesha case?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Khan9898 on June 20, 2016, 11:28:35 PM
^ Something tells me that some sides were given money to hush and let it slowly die.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on June 21, 2016, 07:22:08 AM
Now Kesha's lawyer says there wasn't mental or physical abuse.

Quote
Lawyers for Kesha send letters to a Manhattan judge over whether Kesha's psychiatric and medical records must be disclosed in a defamation suit the producer has filed against her.

Kesha's attorney Alex Little  noted that Sebert's lawsuit against Gottwald for emotional distress has been dismissed and "thus no longer provided a basis for the discovery of her medical and mental health records."

Like if her lawsuit was dismissed by judge so there is no more defamation of Luke's character by her lie.
All her lawyer screams with every statement that all that deal is fake.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on August 02, 2016, 07:33:09 AM
Kesha Drops California Sexual Assault Lawsuit Against Dr. Luke (Californian part is about raping, NY is not.)
and has delivered 28 new songs to the Kemosabe.

Lying in a court can cause an imprisonment, haha.

Dr. Luke's lawyer says the producer will continue his countersuit against Kesha.

(I thought it would happen a couple months earlier, I was wrong. I am awaiting Lady Gaga and Taylor Swift press reports.)

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/12748212_1566769266948286_146567774_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on August 02, 2016, 08:44:37 AM
I read she will continue the lawsuit in New York. What is happening

Btw. Adele is also on the list of supporters.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on August 02, 2016, 01:13:26 PM
Interesting. The court cases are irrelevant anyway as the damage has been done to Dr Luke's career. I imagine we'll hear from her supporters at some stage.

I wonder who she wrote her new songs with?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Axel on August 02, 2016, 02:56:38 PM
Maybe she just hands Kemosabe the trash, just like Prince did with Warner. :)

Other than that, she certainly has made a few songs with Zedd maybe?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on August 02, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
Jack antonoff offered her collaborating together too. Also when she asked fans which songs to play in her tour she mentioned dinosaur (and other songs without Luke's involvement), maybe and just maybe she could still have Max and shellback.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on August 03, 2016, 05:41:04 AM
I wonder can Martin and Luke collaborate now?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 03, 2016, 07:05:05 AM
Overall, the evidence we saw from court papers and that deposition from 2011 sways (and has always swayed me) towards Luke's side.

Not that I think Kesha would flat-out lie about rape and being drugged. I think she might've twisted the situation to her advantage or projected past sexual misconduct with men on Luke. Who really know what happened, but I feel a bit bad for Luke. Such a major hit producer is of course going to have his image tarnished when he's accused of such heinous crimes.

To even pursue justice for such sexual assault years and years later, while maybe not uncommon in many cases, seemed sketchy to me. A man who provided Kesha with her career success; her writing and party girl image matched with Luke's catchy pop production made her huge... I just wonder how Luke is going to rebound from this all.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on August 03, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Maybe it was kesha's masterplan to adopt the party girl image that Luke gave to her, maybe she didn't like that since the beginning and was waiting to be an established artist to proclaim her true image, which I think is the image she tries to pursue now.
It could be a lie to have a revenge on Luke too.
Apart from all the suppositions that I'm doing. Objectively she is different from when she started, she did harm Luke's career and now she wants to release music with her new style.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on August 03, 2016, 10:02:57 PM
This gives me hope to see something from Katy and Luke in her next album. Yay.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on August 05, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
They re-worded the article today......("-- which insiders say is completely unfounded -- ") and took out the part about Fifth Harmony.......
http://m.hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=302280

thanks for this! just wanted to ask where this was coming from ::)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on August 07, 2016, 12:23:45 PM
Thanks, that would be great if Katy recorded with Dr Luke again and Max.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on August 29, 2016, 01:01:19 PM
It's all over.
Kesha drops second charges against Dr. Luke — in New York but Gottwald is suing her still.

Let's celebrate.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e15/10561046_1478391159074932_1745338387_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on August 29, 2016, 01:26:15 PM
Where did you get the info? I tried searching myself but I found something different.
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/08/kesha-ties-revealed-judge-sony-music
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: B Steady on August 29, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
Let's celebrate.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e15/10561046_1478391159074932_1745338387_n.jpg)

this though :D
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on August 30, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
I love that photo!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on September 25, 2016, 01:34:03 PM
Back to music:

https://open.spotify.com/track/0bJbaBvSzfvlVxycGD5ER1

Like Lightning
Künstler Havana Brown, Dawin

Lyricist/Composer   
Dawin Polanco
Kesha Rose Sebert
Stuart Crichton
James Newman

Producer   
Stuart Crichton
Havana Brown
Trevor Muzzy


And she is currently on tour.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on September 25, 2016, 04:37:19 PM
Ah sorry, she was also the composer of the song.

https://listen.tidal.com/album/64976912

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7556940/dr-luke-statement-kesha-profile-new-york-times-magazine

Dr. Luke's Lawyer Responds to Kesha 'New York Times Magazine' Profile: 'She Exiled Herself'


Here it is, you can take a look:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/30/magazine/kesha-lawsuit-dr-luke.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmagazine&_r=3
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on October 27, 2016, 08:19:48 AM
NYTimes fired fact-checker?

From comments:

Quote
New York Times article didn't mention she took back all her lawsuits against him

no one who was actually present (when) Dr. Luke "raped" her (Benny Blanco, Neon Hitch, etc.) has come out in support of this "victim".

It was a KNOWN THING that Kesha and Luke were hooking up at the time amongst, well, everyone in her circles.

She has spun what began as creative differences on Warrior into a twisted web of lies, a rape allegation, and a smear campaign. I am surprised that the NY Times, one of the world's most respectable publications, is willing to be stained with this baseless nonsense.

Seems Kesha wants Luke to win his image defamation case and she is helping his lawyers.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2016, 05:40:39 PM
I think she wants to get some kind of agreement, because Luke is the only person -by contract- that can let her release new music.
It's an abusive contract but she signed it.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on October 30, 2016, 10:32:18 AM
Fascinating article. I can't see this ending well. It does sound very much like they had a lot of creative differences. Yes, Kesha did sign that contract, she must have very much trusted Dr Luke at the time to sign a 6 record deal.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on December 21, 2016, 12:35:46 AM
Kesha said she was working with a grammy winner last month, now she said she's working with a grammy-nominated producer. I can't guess, I hope it's max, but Benny and Greg would be interesting as she worked with all of them. Who knows, maybe we could see also Ricky Reed. Who do you think it is?

EDIT: well, I've just seen a Ricky Reed post saying "kesha days"
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on December 21, 2016, 06:08:57 PM
Dr Luke agreed on this?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on December 22, 2016, 02:53:59 PM
Does he have a choice? He must agree with this, otherwise he would kill even more his career.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on January 04, 2017, 08:57:16 PM
Dr Luke was told by the judge that he could share with Katy Perry the text message from April 2016 that Kesha sent to Lady Gaga. (In April they released True Colors with Zedd.)


Message was added to evidence earlier this year, and now the judge has given Dr Luke right to show the message to Perry.

The evidence was presented as part of a hearing on December 26 in New York, when both parties worked to hash out an agreement on discovery, deciding which documents and records they will exchange with one another. The court order shows that Kesha will not have to produce certain emails, but has agreed to turn over drafts of her original complaint against Dr Luke.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4087740/Lady-Gaga-Katy-Perry-dragged-Kesha-s-sex-assault-case-court-orders-Tic-Tok-singer-Dr-Luke-intriguing-secret-text-sent-Gaga-share-Perry.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4087740/Lady-Gaga-Katy-Perry-dragged-Kesha-s-sex-assault-case-court-orders-Tic-Tok-singer-Dr-Luke-intriguing-secret-text-sent-Gaga-share-Perry.html)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/04/14/3BD807DC00000578-4087740-image-a-16_1483541918232.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on January 31, 2017, 07:41:23 PM
Luke's papers published with letters between him, Seberts, Gaga.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiarosenbaum/dr-luke-is-going-to-war-with-kesha-over-a-text-message-she-s (https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiarosenbaum/dr-luke-is-going-to-war-with-kesha-over-a-text-message-she-s)

Quote
Pebe would regularly ask Gottwald to provide favors that would advance the entertainment-industry careers of herself and her other children; Gottwald often obliged.

Kesha and Dr. Luke’s next court hearing regarding this litigation has been set for Feb. 14.  :-*
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on February 06, 2017, 04:09:27 AM
yeeeaaah.  Something isn't right with dr. cosby over there. The last song he did in 2015 is called "Locked Away" and for some reason I get a feeling that should be his future.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on February 06, 2017, 05:54:18 PM
i'm excited for Luke's comeback
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on February 06, 2017, 09:04:00 PM
Also you have a feeling that Ed Sheeran didn't write his songs (http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=1528.msg45057#msg45057).
Nobody is suing Luke anymore. Check you facts.


I would be surprised if Luke came back. What facts am I checking? Luke has been in court for years. Kesha since 2014. In 2011 a girl was saying Luke drugged and raped her. Since 2005 he has had managers, lawyers, entertainers and a lot of other music industry professional say nothing good about him.

 Luke and Max are not on the same level at all.  Sheeran? don't make me laugh!!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 06, 2017, 09:43:56 PM
Be respectful, please.

At least, this put Kesha's career back on the map.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on February 07, 2017, 01:30:13 AM
At this day I'm still totally impressed how on point was the fact that Max renewed his sound just when all of this Kesha vs Luke battle happened, or the fact that Luke didn't release as much music as he used to (nor hits).
Musically speaking, I'm feeling more Luke's career than Kesha's, losing a producer like him is like taking apart some strong veins in pop music. Almost everything we've heard from Kesha is Luke, especially on the Warrior Album where Luke left behind all the songs that he didn't write to the very end.
I don't really like the kesha with the sound of the flaming lips, it's really boring from me. Is it lyrically good? Maybe, but it's still boring.
Hoping for Fergie to revive Luke's career (even though it's hard).
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on February 07, 2017, 02:07:43 AM
Be respectful, please.

At least, this put Kesha's career back on the map.


I don't think she staged this for a career boost.

Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on February 07, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
Actually...The way Hollywood is, Luke will most likely come back but under a different name. More likely, positioned at some other label or startup. With all the Sony/Luke backlash and the fact that Sony hasn't dumped him says a lot. Luke will be around for a long time.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: georg_e on February 08, 2017, 01:08:09 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/dr-luke-claims-kesha-owes-him-13-million-royalties-972794  After finally seeing the light on what a nut her mother is (see her Twitter),hope he sues them both into the ground.
   Worse though, they've basically created a lynch mob against him, and he's never been charged, let alone convicted of anything. But still gets death threats every single day on Twitter, etc.  Totally disgusting!!!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 08, 2017, 11:01:49 AM
I agree! Kesha's fans go way too far, especially as Dr Luke hasn't been convicted.

Fascinating that Kesha owes Dr Luke so much money, no wonder she wants to get out of her contract!

George, where on twitter does it say that she sees the light about her mother is?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: georg_e on February 08, 2017, 01:57:57 PM
I agree! Kesha's fans go way too far, especially as Dr Luke hasn't been convicted.

Fascinating that Kesha owes Dr Luke so much money, no wonder she wants to get out of her contract!

George, where on twitter does it say that she sees the light about her mother is?
Hey Rebecca......I wasn't clear how I wrote that :-) What I meant was that "I" finally saw the light about something that began as a court case, but then expanded into a hysterical public lynch mob......that changed my outlook on the whole thing......and partly from reading her mom's tweets in general.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on February 08, 2017, 08:31:58 PM
You take Dr. Luke's word that she owes him money?

Though you won't take her word or the word of other women who had rape and date rape drug allegations against him.

That makes sense.

 
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 08, 2017, 09:12:46 PM
Hey Rebecca......I wasn't clear how I wrote that :-) What I meant was that "I" finally saw the light about something that began as a court case, but then expanded into a hysterical public lynch mob......that changed my outlook on the whole thing......and partly from reading her mom's tweets in general.

Hey George, yes, I understand what you meant now. I agree.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on February 08, 2017, 09:22:29 PM
You take Dr. Luke's word that she owes him money?

Though you won't take her word or the word of other women who had rape and date rape drug allegations against him.

That makes sense.

 
I have no idea if Dr Luke raped Kesha or other women. So far, there hasn't been a conviction.

However, in regards to finances, they are easy to quantify and to prove. Per the article, it's 10% of her net receipts. That would be very easy to work out, once you know the ticket sales etc. I don't know her ticket sales, however I'm sure Dr Luke's lawyers accountants have that information. However, of course, I haven't seen her contract.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: rxpills on February 11, 2017, 06:08:48 AM
You take Dr. Luke's word that she owes him money?

Though you won't take her word or the word of other women who had rape and date rape drug allegations against him.

That makes sense.

 
I find it laughable you take Kesha at her word. And who are these other women you speak of that claim to have been raped by Luke?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 22, 2017, 07:02:47 AM
Kesha's countersuit against Luke was rejected (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/kesha-fails-bid-bring-amended-lawsuit-dr-luke-987739) in New York Supreme Court and was titled "speculative".

Luke's lawyer proved that the allegation that Kemosabe didn't payed her loyalties is a lie and she made $13 millions last year.

Quote
You can get a divorce from a spouse. You can dissolve a partnership. The same opportunity should be available to a recording artist. To protect young, newly discovered recording artists from exploitation all music contracts required to end within seven years.

Kesha

Super-strong arguments for a three-year-old child.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on March 23, 2017, 05:08:32 PM
New picture:

http://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/leute/ratestar/welche-popstar-schoenheit-ist-das-50972082.bild.html
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on March 23, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
Maybe on medication that makes you gain weight?

I wonder what Dr. Luke looks like now
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on March 23, 2017, 08:49:16 PM
Looks pretty. Pretty old.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17127024_1897226673879157_4185240613983092736_n.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2lF48fUoAACGNE.jpg)
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on April 05, 2017, 12:14:28 PM
Kesha does not look so good in that photo.

Luke looks okay, a bit older, but still looks good.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 05, 2017, 04:45:24 PM
She looks like a refrigerator.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 26, 2017, 04:05:48 AM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7775107/dr-luke-sony-split-kesha
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on April 26, 2017, 08:30:24 PM
I wonder what he's gonna do... if he'll still produce or change his name.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on April 27, 2017, 03:06:46 AM
I wonder what he's gonna do... if he'll still produce or change his name.
or both (?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on April 27, 2017, 07:42:34 AM
Conspiracy theory:

He asked Sony to end this contract in order to add it as an aggravating circumstance into the defamation case against Seberts.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 28, 2017, 11:00:47 AM
Stay out of the spotlight until this solves and come back with a huge song with an A-list artist.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Rebecca on May 08, 2017, 11:48:19 AM
I feel a bit sad about this. I hope Dr Luke can have another hit.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Neal Sabel on May 12, 2017, 04:36:05 AM
I can't say I've read all responses but it's always wise to think about it in terms of gains and losses.  So what does Kesha stand to gain from this?  New contract with someone else, millions in damages potentially, a new "victimised" image that she could front for a new album or publicity even.  What does Dr.Luke stand by raping Kesha and forcing drugs onto her?  Only bad, nothing positive.  Let's elaborate.  Why would he have the need to rape a teenage girl when he has a wife.  Even if he wanted more sex couldn't he hire prostitutes like Charlie Sheen.  Does Kesha seem like the type to not take drugs herself?  Look at the rebellious, slutty and decadent image she had created for herself, she has built up a whole image from "rebel youth culture" where drinking and drugging are like sweets and Coca Cola.  Now Dr.Luke conveniently made her take drugs? Sure he did.

The only thing Dr.Luke stands to gain is a longer contract with Kesha, but he could have easily made a deal with Kesha's lawyers to extend that, it could of easily been negotiable, I doubt he would go to the lengths of rape and drugging someone just for a longer contract, it's actually quite laughable. Also if he is some predator then he must have done the same with other artists?  Why have no other artists come forward or why has no-one reputable who has worked with Dr.Luke come forward to validate Kesha's allegations, like Max Martin? 

This story just seems so cooked, it's literally steaming.  Contracts aren't eternally binding, Kesha could have easily signed with another label and let her lawyers take care of the awkward details and even if it meant a fine for breaking contract, I'm sure she could have afforded that.  Let's speculate on what the truth could be:

Kesha: I want more hits which you aren't giving me
Dr.Luke: I'm not a hit robot, it just doesn't work like that
Kesha: Give me more hits or I'll sue ...

Thinking about it, it seems more probable that Kesha tried to black mail Dr.Luke, and could be for a variety of reasons such as
more cuts, more money, more this and more that.  Kesha seems very aggressive in getting what she wants, didn't she even break into Prince's house.  Now who would do that? actually break into someone else's house. Unless you are some kind of sociopath, just saying.

To recap, gains and losses, Kesha has way more to gain by suing Dr.Luke than he has to gain from her, not when artists are queuing up to work with him and perhaps she has reached a declining point in her career, where the hits are drying up.  Dr.Luke should sue and sue hard until the truth comes out. 
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on June 24, 2017, 07:54:55 AM
Pebe Sebert made her admission in a joint statement with Dr. Luke, saying she had no "firsthand knowledge of of the events occurring on the night of the alleged rape."

Dr. Luke drops Nashville defamation lawsuit against Kesha's mother.

However, he is asserting claims of defamation against Kesha in New York.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on July 05, 2017, 11:31:38 AM
Apparently there is a new single: "PRAYER" or "PRAYING" about to be released.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on July 05, 2017, 11:10:52 PM
interesting.... who is the producer?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on July 06, 2017, 04:21:03 AM
We'll know tomorrow
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 06, 2017, 05:59:49 AM
I'm missing some new Luke productions ,... :(
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 07, 2017, 08:02:58 PM
interesting.... who is the producer?

Ryan Lewis.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on July 07, 2017, 11:40:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Dur3uXXCQ&t=87s

pretty good  ;D   +20 points for Kesha
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2017, 02:16:50 AM
A profile about Kesha was published on the New York Times mag.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/30/magazine/kesha-lawsuit-dr-luke.html?smid=tw-nytmag&smtyp=cur

Luke's lawyer made a statement about the story: http://ew.com/article/2016/10/26/kesha-new-songs-rainbow-hunt-you-down-learn-let-it-go-rose/
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on May 30, 2018, 12:29:29 PM
http://nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2018/2018_03819.htm

https://twitter.com/THR/status/100149882033580030


- This morning, a New York appeals court upheld a decision made by a judge last year that denied Kesha's attempt to void her contract with Dr. Luke. Kesha said she has suffered physical, emotional, and sexual abuse while working with the producer.
- Since her appeal did not work, this means Dr. Luke's defamation case against Kesha is now moving forward. Dr. Luke is suing Kesha for $50 million in loss of revenue from Kesha’s sexual assault allegations against him. He claims he "lost millions in potential revenue including a chance to continue working with Katy Perry."
- Dr. Luke claims that if Kesha hadn't accused him of sexual assault, he "would have made $29.9 million in producer and publishing royalties, $8.7 million from co-writing tracks with songwriters on his label, and $10.2 million for work that would have been done on Katy Perry’s 4th, 5th and 6th albums."
- More information and depositions will be released in the next couple of weeks as the case gets ready for trial
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dagge on May 31, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
http://nycourts.gov/reporter/3dseries/2018/2018_03819.htm

https://twitter.com/THR/status/100149882033580030

...
- Dr. Luke claims that if Kesha hadn't accused him of sexual assault, he "would have made $29.9 million in producer and publishing royalties, $8.7 million from co-writing tracks with songwriters on his label, and $10.2 million for work that would have been done on Katy Perry’s 4th, 5th and 6th albums."
- More information and depositions will be released in the next couple of weeks as the case gets ready for trial

We can estimate by averaging those numbers that he earns on average a million $ per hit song he had co-written or co-produced. I have seen Shellback tax statement in his beginning years with Max, he earned then cca 3.5M EUR that year. No wonder this is closely tied gang
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: maximel on June 01, 2018, 01:39:54 AM
Any sources?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on June 01, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Taxes in Sweden are open and Swedish media publicize stars' income every year.

Max Martin in 2016 — $ 19.5 mil (172 mil sek)
Max Martin in 2015 — $ 17 mil (150 mil sek)
Shellback in 2016 — $  9.3 mil (81 mil sek)
Shellback in 2015 — $  10 mil (88 mil sek)

and

Ali Payami in 2015 — $  0.7 mil (6.4  mil sek)
Carl Falk  in 2015 — $  0.3 mil (2.6 mil sek)
Rami Yacoub  in 2015  — $  1 mil (7.9  mil sek)

https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/sa-mycket-tjanar-den-svenska-musikeliten/ (https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/sa-mycket-tjanar-den-svenska-musikeliten/)

for 2017 will be published in the end of this year, I guess.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dagge on June 02, 2018, 12:10:14 PM
Taxes in Sweden are open and Swedish media publicize stars' income every year.

Interesting enough, many exCheiron guys are not on that earnings list containing 125 people. Ali Payami is everywhere on charts but he earns so much less than Max and Shellback. It may be that his earnings split contract with Max is quite modest, compared to Shellback's. Ilya is even not on a list. Politics?

Also interesting to see ABBA guys still earn net 10M USD 40 years after their hits were written. This looks like a best business in the world :) Only obstacle is, it is extremely hard to break into top guys gang. Finally, last guy on a list earns 200K USD, quite a nice support.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on June 02, 2018, 03:28:21 PM
As I remember from billboard article about This is what you came for, the authors get up to 40% of song earrings, producers get up to 4%.

Ali is one of several producers, and I guess his investment in songs' writing is not that big. Actually, his income is 4% of MM's income. Looks right.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 02, 2018, 10:23:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Deo-ICIV4AAwWgY.jpg:large)

written by Kim Petras
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 04, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
As I remember from billboard article about This is what you came for, the authors get up to 40% of song earrings, producers get up to 4%.

Ali is one of several producers, and I guess his investment in songs' writing is not that big. Actually, his income is 4% of MM's income. Looks right.

Ali makes tracks that become songs.
Basically, he's an author too. I think he gets at least 25% of input.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on June 04, 2018, 11:53:56 PM
Troye also had to post a statement.   
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 05, 2018, 07:15:27 PM
Troye also had to post a statement.

Here it is: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/pride/8459010/troye-sivan-responds-kim-petras-dr-luke-backlash
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on June 10, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
Luke has always been scum.  The courts just decided to roll around in it too.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dagge on June 10, 2018, 08:33:52 PM
Luke has always been scum.  The courts just decided to roll around in it too.

I'm curious, can you elaborate this impression a bit
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on June 12, 2018, 05:45:22 AM
Have you ever met Luke? 

Before the companies?  Before Sony?  Before Max?  Or even right around when they were meeting?


What about Martin? Did you ever know him or is this just a fanboy site?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dagge on June 12, 2018, 09:59:04 AM
Have you ever met Luke? 

Before the companies?  Before Sony?  Before Max?  Or even right around when they were meeting?


What about Martin? Did you ever know him or is this just a fanboy site?

No I haven't. If you did it would be interesting to hear about them from a first-hand experience. It would nicely  complement other parts of this topic.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 12, 2018, 06:29:22 PM
No I haven't. If you did it would be interesting to hear about them from a first-hand experience. It would nicely  complement other parts of this topic.

Well, it's hard to do but we have to separate the person from the author.

You can be a horrible musician and a great person, or a great musician and a terrible human being.
Or a good brother and a terrible son... for example.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 14, 2018, 08:16:28 PM
https://theblast.com/kesha-katy-perry-lady-gaga-dr-luke-rape/

Kesha Accused Dr. Luke of Raping Katy Perry in Text Message to Lady Gaga

Katy denied it.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on June 15, 2018, 01:38:26 AM
https://theblast.com/kesha-katy-perry-lady-gaga-dr-luke-rape/

Kesha Accused Dr. Luke of Raping Katy Perry in Text Message to Lady Gaga

Katy denied it.
This looks like a desperate move.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on June 16, 2018, 07:14:11 PM
Ne-Yo - Nights like these. My favorite Luke's song since 2015 or so. Co-produced with Cirkut and Billboard
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: turnaround on September 19, 2018, 08:53:33 PM
New song:


Co-Written by Wrabel and Andrew Pearson   
Produced by Drew Pearson
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: onepass on October 05, 2018, 10:23:46 AM
No I haven't. If you did it would be interesting to hear about them from a first-hand experience. It would nicely  complement other parts of this topic.

Luke is a very bad man.  In 2008 he stole a notebook from a young girl. He promised her that she was the first writer signed to Rx Songs and that when she got paid that she would. Unfortunately he did bad business and stole HUNDREDS of songs.  These songs Luke released and some and hand ful of other producers have...both with lukes name attached and not.  It is unfortunate that people can't hear the difference between 40 year old men and a 17 year old girl.   What is worse is you have fan boy sites like this hyping up producers that don't deserve the hype.  Lying and stealing credit for HUNDREDS of songs lyrical credits and even the musical components is super sad.  SUPER SAD.   It isn't fair for that girl.  These artists have no personality but of that of a little girl for the last 10 years.  His buddies are not good people and that is all I will say.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on October 05, 2018, 03:44:36 PM
Luke doesn't write lyrics.
Prescription Songs was founded around 2010-2011.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 05, 2018, 06:55:55 PM
What's curious about this, is that looks like everyone don't want their names attached to Luke.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: bugmenot on August 26, 2021, 11:52:56 AM
The news is that she told that she woke up in a bed naked not only to her mother but also to two managers and none of the crowd took her to a hospital, a gynecologist or sought psychological help for her. Instead they negotiated a better deal.

The lawyers letters are creepy, I don't understand why Kesha's supporters distribute them, or they don't apprehend English: if Luke doesn't sign a better deal, we sue him for sexual assault.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: Snipes3000 on August 26, 2021, 01:17:14 PM
They lost it. They could have appealed, but they didn't? They just try to sex shame Luke after he fat shamed kesha............ You dont talk about a man like Dr Luke like THAT!!!!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 28, 2022, 03:38:40 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbioMOVvOE2/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet (https://www.instagram.com/p/CbioMOVvOE2/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet)

Luke is at the #1 spot at this week Songwriters and Producers chart.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on March 28, 2022, 04:42:00 AM
It doesn't look very good that only his friends are the only available comments, at this point no one will allow him to have a little bit of spotlight.
I applaud him for his consistency lately, he's been releasing songs much more frequent than any other producer I follow right now, I wish I could say the same about the quality.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 28, 2022, 06:07:03 AM


This surely will be a BIG HIT.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on March 28, 2022, 06:43:50 AM


This surely will be a BIG HIT.

Another Top 5 (potentially #1?) HIT for DR LUKE. He deserves it!!
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on March 28, 2022, 05:49:04 PM
It's a fun remix, what is DJ Khaled doing here? He's not even credited as a writer unlike Mariah

Sidenote, can we change the title of this topic for discussion of Dr Luke's productions?
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: nanofives on April 04, 2022, 08:21:52 PM
It's #3 on this week's Hot 100 but it still doesn't count Mariah's feature
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 05, 2022, 12:42:04 AM
I think they put the different versions of the song as only one entry.
Title: Re: Kesha Sues Dr. Luke, Alleges Sexual Assault & Forced Drug/Alcohol Use
Post by: melodicmoonlight on April 05, 2022, 03:32:02 AM
another top 3 hit for Dr. Luke!