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Title: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 15, 2016, 05:35:05 AM
1) Witness
Savan Kotecha / Max Martin / Ali Payami / Katy Perry
   
2) Hey Hey Hey
Sia Fuller / Sarah Hudson / Max Martin / Ali Payami / Katy Perry
   
3) Roulette
Ferras Alqaisi / Max Martin / Ali Payami / Katy Perry / Shellback

4) Swish Swish
Duke Dumont / Brittany Hazzard / Sarah Hudson / Onika Maraj / Max Martin / Katy Perry / PJ Sledge

5) Déjŕ Vu
Ferras Alqaisi / Hayden James / Katy Perry / Thomas Stell

6) Power
Jack Garratt / Max Martin / Katy Perry / William Robinson
   
7) Mind Maze
Sarah Hudson / Megan James / Max Martin / Katy Perry / Corin Roddick

8] Miss You More
Sarah Hudson / Megan James / Max Martin / Katy Perry / Corin Roddick

9) Chained to the Rhythm
Sia Fuller / Skip Marley / Max Martin / Katy Perry

10) Tsunami
Sarah Hudson / Mia Moretti / Katy Perry / Michael Williams
   
11) Bon Appétit
Ferras Alqaisi / Kirsnick Ball / Kiari Cephus / Oscar Holter / Quavious Marshall / Max Martin / Katy Perry / Shellback
   
12) Bigger Than Me
Sarah Hudson / Megan James / Katy Perry / Corin Roddick
   
13) Save as Draft
Nicholas Audino / Noonie Bao / Lewis Hughes / Elof Loelv / Dijon McFarlane / Katy Perry

14) Pendulum
Jeff Bhasker / Sarah Hudson / Katy Perry

15) Into Me You See
Ferras Alqaisi / Joe Goddard / Katy Perry / Alexis Taylor

16) Dance with the Devil
Katy Perry / Felix Snow / Sarah Hudson

17) Act My Age
Katy Perry / Tinashe Fazakerley / Mark Crew / Sarah Hudson
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 15, 2016, 06:59:42 AM
I'm in my first listen, first chorus and I'm like... blah.

According to the iTunes file, it was written by Max Martin, Savan Kotecha & Ali Payami.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 15, 2016, 09:14:20 AM
Produced by Max and Ali.

It seems to be an iTunes/Apple Music exclusive so far:

https://itunes.apple.com/de/album/rise-single/id1134511613
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Rebecca on July 15, 2016, 12:55:32 PM
oh no! I am not really a fan of this! there are a lot of elements that I like but overall it's too slow. I'm sure it will be a big hit.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Rebecca on July 15, 2016, 01:17:25 PM
Yep, I feel the same!

Yes, I think it would have been nice if it had been with Luke!

Seems we have a double up, I don't know how to combine topics!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 15, 2016, 01:33:59 PM
I've been waiting for this moment for so long and I love it and I'm disappointed at the same time. This just proves my point that Luke's career is suspended. Every Katy's comeback was produced by Luke now she has the opportunity to meet the wolf cousins.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on July 15, 2016, 03:29:59 PM
It looks like it's the song for Olympics. Sport songs have a long tradition of being not that great...It's the worst KP single ever or it's just me?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 15, 2016, 04:00:16 PM
Congrats Max & Ali for producing the official Olympic Games 2016 anthem.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 15, 2016, 04:03:15 PM
It looks like it's the song for Olympics. Sport songs have a long tradition of being not that great...It's the worst KP single ever or it's just me?

K'naan 2010 as well as Dr. Luke & Cirkut 2014 were brilliant.
German artist Herbert Grönemeyer delivered two sport smashes as well (2006 & 2016).

And no, obviously Firework is Katy Perry's worst single to date.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 15, 2016, 04:31:02 PM
Wow, I never would've guessed it was by Max and Ali. Upon first listen it sounded more like Tricky Stewart to me.

The lyrics are too busy and Katy-ish. Definitely one of her not so strong singles.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 15, 2016, 05:29:00 PM
I'm in my first listen, first chorus and I'm like... blah.

According to the iTunes file, it was written by Max Martin, Savan Kotecha & Ali Payami.
Vevo says: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Savan Kotecha, Ali Payami
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: DMartin on July 15, 2016, 06:16:19 PM
The pre chorus remind me of "Scream" by Usher ;D
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 15, 2016, 08:23:15 PM
http://www.popjustice.com/thenews/katy-perrys-released-a-new-single-in-one-specific-place/

“This is a song that’s been brewing inside me for years, that has finally come to the surface,” are words of Perry’s that appeared in a press release. “I was inspired to finish it now, rather than save it for my next album, because now more than ever, there is a need for our world to unite. I know that together we can rise above the fear – in our country, and around the world. I can’t think of a better example than the Olympic athletes, as they gather in Rio with their strength and fearlessness, to remind us how we ALL can come together, with the resolve to be the best we can be. I hope this song can inspire us to heal, unite, and rise together.”

So: she had the song shelved and decided to give it a go.
It's one of these cheesy songs she writes on guitar.
Not written over a track, where with some help she really delivers.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Tano87 on July 16, 2016, 05:53:44 AM
Actually the melody and the singing notes reminds me of another old song, like a mixture...maybe I'm wrong...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on July 16, 2016, 06:44:18 PM
I love this.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 17, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
Feelgoodlies is a bot.
His posts depend on the other posts following these rules:
If majority says "amazing/good/great" type "I don't like it."
If majority says "I don't like it." type "I love this."
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 18, 2016, 12:42:06 AM
Hipsters everywhere.
Is Ali listed as a co-producer anywhere?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 18, 2016, 04:29:20 AM
Hipsters everywhere.
Is Ali listed as a co-producer anywhere?

Because he's the best sound designing wise at Wolf Cousins ;)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 18, 2016, 01:54:07 PM
Universal Music Sweden posted it.

Quote
Katy Perry är tillbaka med nya lĺten "Rise", producerad av Max Martin och Ali Payami! Superstjärnan säger om lĺten "I hope this song can inspire us to heal, unite, and rise together" <3 Du kan smyglyssna här eller höra hela lĺten pĺ Apple Music. ‪#‎RISE‬
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: system_09 on July 18, 2016, 03:13:55 PM
New song by Max and the team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFIIMEe2Ht0

what do you think ?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 18, 2016, 05:34:51 PM
We have already an open topic over here.
http://www.swedishsongs.de/smf/index.php?topic=3330.0
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 19, 2016, 01:21:32 AM
Because he's the best sound designing wise at Wolf Cousins ;)

Apart from you being right ... does your answer even match his question?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 19, 2016, 02:27:05 AM
Apart from you being right ... does your answer even match his question?

Nope. I checked the post after I replied and I got caught, lost in translation.
The funny thing is that nanofives is from Spain.

Deberíamos escribir en espańol en este foro, nanofives.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 19, 2016, 04:23:06 AM
La gente no se molestaría? La mayoría de los foros que atiendo son muy estrictos con mensajes en otros idiomas lol, igual hay muchos comentarios que me reservo acá porque no los puedo traducir del todo bien. Ah, y soy de Argentina jeje.

Back to English:
I want to take note of something and wanna know if anyone else feels the same. I did listen to the iTunes Mp3 and the YouTube version, both versions in the first verse "I won't just SSSSurvive" that S sounded like I was listening to a low bitrate song, The first part of the song I'm uncomfortable with the overall quality of katy's voice, it sounds like she's singing through a Wall, if that's the correct way to describe a low bitrate sample.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Rex on July 21, 2016, 12:52:55 AM
De que parte de Argentina sos?
Katy Perry är tillbaka med nya lĺten "Rise", producerad av Max Martin och Ali Payami! Superstjärnan säger om lĺten "I hope this song can inspire us to heal, unite, and rise together" <3 Du kan smyglyssna här eller höra hela lĺten pĺ Apple Music. ‪#‎RISE
can someone translate it?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 21, 2016, 01:04:25 AM
haven't given this song more than two listens
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 21, 2016, 08:53:38 AM
I boycott this iTunes/Apple Music exclusive song. What I heard so far was not too convincing.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 21, 2016, 05:22:59 PM
I boycott this iTunes/Apple Music exclusive song.

... says the Spotify user lol
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 21, 2016, 05:39:28 PM
Yes. There are hardly any exclusive Spotify tracks. Music should be available easily, globally.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 21, 2016, 10:20:28 PM
From the artists/label perspective, music should be bought.
Never for free.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 21, 2016, 10:52:01 PM
I don't say it has to be free. But it should be easily accessible.  Platform independent.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 21, 2016, 10:55:23 PM
Yes. There are hardly any exclusive Spotify tracks

awwwww you poor Spotify users
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on July 22, 2016, 01:23:41 AM
De que parte de Argentina sos?can someone translate it?

Katy Perry is back with the new song "Rise", produced by Max Martin and Ali Payami! The superstar says this about the song: "I hope this song can inspire us to heal, unite, and rise together" <3 Here you can listen to a preview or hear the whole song on Apple Music.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 22, 2016, 06:06:16 AM
De que parte de Argentina sos?

De Buenos Aires, vos?

YouTube isn't a thing anymore?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 22, 2016, 08:57:59 AM
awwwww you poor Spotify users
Btw - I forgot - there are many Spotify Sessions which are really good!!

In other news, Rise is not exclusive anymore.



And Max plays Strings and Trumpets.  ???


Katy Perry, Author, Composer, Main Artist 
Sam Holland, Recording Engineer
Max Martin, Author, Background Vocalist, Composer, Producer, Programming, Strings, Trumpet
Ali Payami, Author, Composer, Drums, Electric Bass, Guitar, Horn, Keyboards, Percussion, Producer, Programming, Strings
Jeremy Lertola, Asst. Recording Engineer
John Hanes, Mix Engineer
Serban Ghenea, Mixer 
Cory Bice, Asst. Recording Engineer
Savan Kotecha, Author, Composer

MXM Music (ASCAP) administered by Kobalt Songs Music Publishing, Inc. - When I'm Rich You'll Be My b*tch (ASCAP) administered by WB Music Corp. - Wolf Cousins (STIM) / Warner Chappell Music Scand (STIM) / Ma-Jay Publishing (STIM)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 22, 2016, 06:23:20 PM
New (proper) Music Video announced, I like the concept and it could really boost it in the charts.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Oroz on July 22, 2016, 08:47:33 PM
Btw - I forgot - there are many Spotify Sessions which are really good!!

In other news, Rise is not exclusive anymore.



And Max plays Strings and Trumpets.  ???


Katy Perry, Author, Composer, Main Artist 
Sam Holland, Recording Engineer
Max Martin, Author, Background Vocalist, Composer, Producer, Programming, Strings, Trumpet
Ali Payami, Author, Composer, Drums, Electric Bass, Guitar, Horn, Keyboards, Percussion, Producer, Programming, Strings
Jeremy Lertola, Asst. Recording Engineer
John Hanes, Mix Engineer
Serban Ghenea, Mixer 
Cory Bice, Asst. Recording Engineer
Savan Kotecha, Author, Composer

MXM Music (ASCAP) administered by Kobalt Songs Music Publishing, Inc. - When I'm Rich You'll Be My b*tch (ASCAP) administered by WB Music Corp. - Wolf Cousins (STIM) / Warner Chappell Music Scand (STIM) / Ma-Jay Publishing (STIM)

Hi turnaround, it'd be awesome to know where do you get these credits. I'm always searching for them but lately it's not been so easy. Especially who mixed it and such.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 22, 2016, 11:03:08 PM
I still don't get the song.

The other day I read an article about the music trends: now it's slower, after the 128bpm standard of EDM.
Plus: now songs contain +300 words.

Back in the 80s, it was 150+.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Rex on July 23, 2016, 01:37:40 AM
De Buenos Aires, vos?

YouTube isn't a thing anymore?

de Buenos Aires tambien, interesante..
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 23, 2016, 01:58:42 AM
Arriba los latinos! jajajaja <3
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 23, 2016, 07:24:21 AM
With songs like these, the standard of BPM will get even slower, and you can't even dance to this.

Muy interesante jaja, que bueno es no estar solo xD, ahora vamos por el cuarto!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Oroz on July 23, 2016, 08:25:15 PM
Arriba los latinos! jajajaja <3

De México ˇsaludos!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Eddie Krommer on July 26, 2016, 05:53:44 AM
Desde Honduras.

Deberíamos crear una sección solo para Espańol.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 26, 2016, 06:30:33 AM
Song debuted at #11 on Billboard.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Axel on July 28, 2016, 02:25:05 PM
I love the second part of the chorus with those triplets. Nice effect on the voice and crystal-clear precision of the vocals.

Overall a nice song. It will grow.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 28, 2016, 03:51:43 PM
It will grow.

No, it will rise.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Axel on July 28, 2016, 04:46:57 PM
(*almost spills his soda*)

LOL!

I tell you what. I better don't know what will rise on your end.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 29, 2016, 11:59:23 AM
Rise and Roar performed at the Democratic National Convention event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df0xj-d-IGI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on July 29, 2016, 12:18:42 PM
Rise and Roar performed at the Democratic National Convention event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df0xj-d-IGI&feature=youtu.be

Rise'n'Roar - is this something like a new Rock'n'Roll?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: georg_e on July 29, 2016, 03:50:21 PM
       ^    ^    ^
"Rise 'n Roar".....sounds like title of motivational song for bears after long winter's hibernation ;D
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 29, 2016, 07:32:12 PM
This is is not the first single of her next record, right?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Polarmachine on July 29, 2016, 10:21:03 PM
This is is not the first single of her next record, right?

nope (thankful)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: nanofives on July 30, 2016, 06:21:29 AM
I don't think though this will be left out on her album, I think it fits perfectly for an outro song for the album itself.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on July 30, 2016, 06:10:06 PM
For Jules, they release it also as a 2-track:

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/katy-perry-rise/hnum/4197618

With instrumental.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on August 12, 2016, 11:16:18 AM
BRILLIANT stuff. Just listened to the full song for the first time.

Max x Ali <3 <3 <3

@turnaround: A1
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 12, 2016, 07:26:06 PM
I saw the video the other day at a friend's place.

I sang the chorus while walking, 20 minutes later.
I still don't like the song, though.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on August 15, 2016, 04:25:48 PM
Damn, what a song! One of her very best ever.
All hail King Ali!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on September 04, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
This is the best Katy Perry song ever.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on September 04, 2016, 09:03:09 PM
This is the best Katy Perry song ever.

lol, definitely not.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on September 04, 2016, 10:48:39 PM
lol, definitely not.

Lol definitely yes.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 05, 2016, 05:46:44 AM
Lol definitely yes.

Not my kind of song.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: georg_e on September 05, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
               It will eventually become a commercial for Viagra :-)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: B Steady on September 05, 2016, 05:18:37 PM
               It will eventually become a commercial for Viagra :-)

with a little twist:

Don't be surprised, it will still rise

:-)))
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: georg_e on September 05, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
with a little twist:

Don't be surprised, it will still rise

:-)))
    LOL!!!! :-D
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: Rex on December 07, 2016, 08:21:40 PM
Does anyone also hear some similarities between rise and scream? particularly in the part where Usher sings "And I've tried to fight it, to fight it, but you're so magnetic, magnetic" ~~~~ "Don't doubt it, don't doubt it, victory is in my veins, I know it, I know it" in rise
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on April 27, 2017, 10:48:02 AM
New Single - Bon Appetit with Migos

https://www.popjustice.com/thenews/katy-perrys-new-single-bon-appetit-is-out-on-friday

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-XhzaJUQAA48yI.jpg)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on April 28, 2017, 07:14:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9ilfAZHOs

Love the production/vocal production. Max & Shellback production?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Rise (Max, Savan, Ali)
Post by: turnaround on April 28, 2017, 08:04:05 AM
Written by:
Max Martin
Kirsnick Ball
Quavious Marshall
Oscar Holter
Shellback
Kiari Cephus
Katy Perry
Ferras Alqaisi

Produced by:
Oscar Holter
Shellback
Max Martin


Keyboard:
Shellback
Oscar Holter


Background Vocals:
Shellback

Programmer:
Shellback
Oscar Holter
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appetit, Rise, Chained To The Rhythm (Max Martin)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 28, 2017, 10:59:39 AM
Mm, I listened on monitor headphones and got kinda dissapointed.

Is like it doesn't flow... I don't like the mix. The vocals are too sparse...

Ali Payami, please save this project with your tracks.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appetit, Rise, Chained To The Rhythm (Max Martin)
Post by: Polarmachine on April 28, 2017, 11:10:35 AM
Anyone else thinks Katy's run is over.

Chained flopped hard and this is slightly better imo but I agree that the mix isn't too good.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on April 28, 2017, 03:23:08 PM
I can't stand quavo's vocals, the mix seems to be more like a migos song, and they are terrible. Of course offset can bring some good verses which could be only about generic rap, but it's a stupid selection from Katy bringing mediocre rap artists just because they have ONE number one song (because of a stupid trend), this is my assumption.
Seems like oscar holter is making max and shellback experiment new sounds, see mitt team.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: rxpills on May 01, 2017, 08:39:13 AM
The Dream Team (Katy, Luke, Max, Bonnie) era is most definitely over.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: elgrillo on May 01, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
Solo version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iZKKo5qKGY
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: B Steady on May 06, 2017, 08:35:39 AM
Brilliant song! I saw people complaining about missing hooks, yet there are so many in it.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 06, 2017, 06:33:14 PM
I was VERY disappointed that there wasn't a drop after the first chorus, but I think it's an interesting tweak to the formula. The outro is lit, like in Mitt team or Touch It.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 06, 2017, 07:06:53 PM
Well, is not a song that grabs you from the start...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Rex on May 07, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
It's not a song that grabs you at any point... I've listened to this crap 5 times and still can't believe Katy is killing her career in this way
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Rebecca on May 08, 2017, 12:12:25 PM
Bon Appetit is average to me. I can't get into it. So many songwriters on it!

Katy's super short hair doesn't help things either.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: B Steady on May 09, 2017, 11:54:08 AM
So many songwriters on it!

The four artists, the three producers and only one writer who's neither a performer nor a producer of the song. Not so many after all ...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Rebecca on May 09, 2017, 01:10:18 PM
The four artists, the three producers and only one writer who's neither a performer nor a producer of the song. Not so many after all ...

oh right, I had no idea there were for 4 artists on that song! now I see.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 09, 2017, 02:19:12 PM
Miley's hair is disturbing. They should know better that artists who scores N1 in the hot 100 thanks to a viral trend like Migos don't last long.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Polarmachine on May 09, 2017, 09:06:42 PM
Miley's hair is disturbing. They should know better that artists who scores N1 in the hot 100 thanks to a viral trend like Migos don't last long.
It was 4 new releases last friday with a Migos feat. Sean Paul, Katy Perry, Dj Khaled, Mary J Blige. Everybody trying to be trendy.  :o
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 10, 2017, 01:56:31 AM
Quavo got a big first week sales because of Justin Bieber, it could be on top for a few weeks too, besides... Slide didn't perform well and Bon Appetit debuted 89, it's downhill from here. I won't bother listening the other ones.
Anyway, I still love Offset's verses on every song I listened from them.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: B Steady on May 10, 2017, 02:12:34 PM
Y'all should listen to the Sean Paul feat. Migos song, pure fuego.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Polarmachine on May 10, 2017, 06:21:00 PM
Migos is the most popular boy band in the world atm.
 
 ;D
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: bugmenot on May 10, 2017, 06:22:36 PM
Before the  2017 Grammy Award show, Ryan Seacrest asked Perry about her brief hiatus:

Quote
It’s called taking care of your mental health, I haven’t shaved my head yet.

Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Polarmachine on May 13, 2017, 10:56:29 PM
It's not even on top 50 worldwide on spotify after two week (totally understandable since it's a bad, boring, cringy song).

And now the video is out which is gaining a lot of views. So maybe it will begin to rise on charts etc?

But if so, it's only because of all the chefs touching her body and not about the song smh



 
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 14, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
Most of Katy Perry's songs are boosted because of her videos.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Polarmachine on May 14, 2017, 10:30:55 AM
Most of Katy Perry's songs are boosted because of her videos.

Yes. And that is the case in almost all pop music.

But if this song starts climbing the charts now, it's gonna be super obvious.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Wolf Cousin on May 14, 2017, 02:47:35 PM
I like it! Sure it's different but that's good. 2012 is over you know. Also it's better than the 6000th generic Kygo single (Although it wouldn't surprise me if that's still gonna happen). 

It's called moving forward. I'm sure it'll grow on you.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: onepass on May 14, 2017, 09:54:52 PM
I'm all for helping the company but Bon appetit is horrible. Chained to the rhythm is only minimally 'successful' because of the very small part in the song.

Not a fan of Katy Perry's stuff right now.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: B Steady on May 14, 2017, 10:41:21 PM
I like it! Sure it's different but that's good. 2012 is over you know. Also it's better than the 6000th generic Kygo single (Although it wouldn't surprise me if that's still gonna happen). 

It's called moving forward. I'm sure it'll grow on you.

Not so sure about your last sentence but for the rest you have my agreement.
Bon Appétit is quite ingenious, it just takes some understanding.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: melodicmoonlight on May 14, 2017, 10:54:58 PM
I don't get the hate for Bon Appetit either. It's a pretty brilliant slinky pop jam. The way it builds, the whole clubby vibe, and the video definitely brings the song to life more.

At first I didn't get what she was doing this era. She seemed a bit aloof in interviews and the live performances of Chained to the Rhythm were lackluster. But I watched a 30-minute live stream she did the other day and I get where she is now in her career/life. She isn't taking it too seriously, trying to break records, or hit #1. She's experimenting and above all wants to have fun and be silly. I think the music will deliver.

New song Witness:

https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/863840767676002305
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: Polarmachine on May 14, 2017, 11:03:14 PM
This new era with Katy has really not had the impact that an artist with that fame / fanbase should have.

But I guess you can't constantly rule the hot 100 and be nr 1.
 
I look forward to Camila Cabello and Justin Timberlake now.

And I would really like Max to finally have a sick song with Rihanna.



Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 14, 2017, 11:04:00 PM
I don't get the hate for Bon Appetit either. It's a pretty brilliant slinky pop jam. The way it builds, the whole clubby vibe, and the video definitely brings the song to life more.

At first I didn't get what she was doing this era. She seemed a bit aloof in interviews and the live performances of Chained to the Rhythm were lackluster. But I watched a 30-minute live stream she did the other day and I get where she is now in her career/life. She isn't taking it too seriously, trying to break records, or hit #1. She's experimenting and above all wants to have fun and be silly. I think the music will deliver.

New song Witness:

https://twitter.com/katyperry/status/863840767676002305
Oh, she reworked the demo that leaked a few months ago. Sounds very nice, I get some Ali's vibes.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: B Steady on May 14, 2017, 11:44:34 PM
I get some Ali's vibes.

Kinda, but only because of the snaps and the vocal production. I also get some Illuminati vibes.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: onepass on May 15, 2017, 05:51:07 AM
I also get some Illuminati vibes.

True.

I'm also sensing some Carlton Vibes without the joy (the illuminati part).

http://www.reactiongifs.com/carlton/
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 15, 2017, 06:15:51 AM
Kinda, but only because of the snaps and the vocal production. I also get some Illuminati vibes.

And the synths.
Excited to hear this in HQ.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm, Rise
Post by: nanofives on May 15, 2017, 11:29:02 PM
The album will drop on June 9, I'm crossing my fingers for seeing luke with her again, but it's unlikely.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - Swish Swish, Bon Appétit, Chained To The Rhythm
Post by: B Steady on May 19, 2017, 11:08:46 AM
Still waiting for the song Witness ...

In the meantime Swish Swish arrived, a mediocre song feat. Nicki Minaj, produced by Promnite, Mailbox & Duke Dumont.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on May 19, 2017, 11:34:27 AM
Worst song of the songs so far.

I fear this will be the worst album by Katy.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 19, 2017, 03:13:20 PM
I think it grew on me faster than it should, I like EDM vibes but it lacked of a good drop, like all her songs so far.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on May 19, 2017, 06:11:14 PM
I think it grew on me faster than it should, I like EDM vibes but it lacked of a good drop, like all her songs so far.

CTTR has a nice drop after Skips middle part.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on May 19, 2017, 06:18:11 PM
Credits for the album according to Apple Music:

Track 1: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Savan Kotecha & Ali Payami
Track 2: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Sia Furler, Ali Payami & Sarah Hudson
Track 3: Various Artists, Max Martin, Ali Payami, Shellback & Ferras Alqaisi
Swish Swish: Katy Perry, Duke Dumont, Sarah Hudson & Brittany Hazzard
Track 5: Katy Perry, Hayden James, Ferras Alqaisi & Thomas Stell
Track 6: Katy Perry & Jack Garratt
Track 7: Katy Perry, Ali Payami, Corin Roddick, Sarah Hudson & Megan James
Track 8: Katy Perry, Ali Payami, Corin Roddick, Sarah Hudson & Megan James
Chained To The Rhythm: Katy Perry, Skip Marley, Max Martin, Sia Furler & Ali Payami
Track 10: Katy Perry, Michael Williams, Marcus Bell, Sarah Hudson & Mia Moretti
Bon Appetit: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Shellback, Oscar Holter, Ferras Alqaisi, Quavious Marshall, Kiari Cephus & Kirsnick Ball
Track 12: Katy Perry, Sarah Hudson, Corin Roddick, Megan James & Oscar Holter
Track 13: Katy Perry, Elof Loelv, Noonie Bao, DJ Mustard, Max Martin & Twice As Nice
Track 14: Katy Perry, Jeff Bhasker & Sarah Hudson
Track 15: Katy Perry, Alexis Goddard, Joe Taylor & Ferras Alqaisi
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 19, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
Credits for the album according to Apple Music:

Track 1: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Savan Kotecha & Ali Payami
Track 2: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Sia Furler, Ali Payami & Sarah Hudson
Track 3: Various Artists, Max Martin, Ali Payami, Shellback & Ferras Alqaisi
Swish Swish: Katy Perry, Duke Dumont, Sarah Hudson & Brittany Hazzard
Track 5: Katy Perry, Hayden James, Ferras Alqaisi & Thomas Stell
Track 6: Katy Perry & Jack Garratt
Track 7: Katy Perry, Ali Payami, Corin Roddick, Sarah Hudson & Megan James
Track 8: Katy Perry, Ali Payami, Corin Roddick, Sarah Hudson & Megan James
Chained To The Rhythm: Katy Perry, Skip Marley, Max Martin, Sia Furler & Ali Payami
Track 10: Katy Perry, Michael Williams, Marcus Bell, Sarah Hudson & Mia Moretti
Bon Appetit: Katy Perry, Max Martin, Shellback, Oscar Holter, Ferras Alqaisi, Quavious Marshall, Kiari Cephus & Kirsnick Ball
Track 12: Katy Perry, Sarah Hudson, Corin Roddick, Megan James & Oscar Holter
Track 13: Katy Perry, Elof Loelv, Noonie Bao, DJ Mustard, Max Martin & Twice As Nice
Track 14: Katy Perry, Jeff Bhasker & Sarah Hudson
Track 15: Katy Perry, Alexis Goddard, Joe Taylor & Ferras Alqaisi

Amazing list of collaborators! Love to see Ali all over the credits. Jack Garratt was the winner of the BBC Poll Sound of 2016.
Jeff Bhasker worked with Lana del Rey, Kanye West and Harry Styles.
Noonie Bao <3

Corin Riddick and Megan James are Purity Ring.
If you never heard of them, you should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiV0RN0mPSk

This is starting to excite me!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on May 19, 2017, 10:06:10 PM
Ali Payami is the worst co-worker Max has ever worked with. Their songs together are the worst IMO.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on May 19, 2017, 10:38:48 PM
Ali Payami is the worst co-worker Max has ever worked with. Their songs together are the worst IMO.

  ;D ;D ;D your comment was so predictable
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 19, 2017, 10:40:37 PM
  ;D ;D ;D your comment was so predictable

This is a joke, right?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on May 20, 2017, 03:26:33 AM
Ali Payami is the worst co-worker Max has ever worked with. Their songs together are the worst IMO.

I'll 2nd that. Maybe we should wait for the Crappy Perry album to drop.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 20, 2017, 04:28:59 AM
Excelent tracklist, kinda disappointing not seeing Luke or Ilya.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nznexus on May 20, 2017, 06:44:36 PM
decent songs.. not much
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on May 22, 2017, 11:40:15 AM
I really wonder why Bonnie is not a part of the team anymore ...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on May 22, 2017, 11:43:46 AM
decent songs.. not much

they should've co-worked with hit producer nznexus
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 22, 2017, 07:03:53 PM
Before Prism was released, Luke got a huge deal with Sony for his Kemosabe imprint BUT he would produce artists from Sony's roster.
They allowed him to work with Katy for the Prism record.
Katy is signed to Capitol, a UMG division.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on May 23, 2017, 01:15:34 AM
Before Prism was released, Luke got a huge deal with Sony for his Kemosabe imprint BUT he would produce artists from Sony's roster.
They allowed him to work with Katy for the Prism record.
Katy is signed to Capitol, a UMG division.

What is the point of being "exclusive"? 
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 23, 2017, 07:49:53 PM
Money.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Rebecca on May 24, 2017, 12:17:01 PM
I am barely interested in her album. I also fear it will be her worst one. Swish Swish is terrible. I'm hoping the other songs are better.
but it doesn't matter now she's a judge on American Idol.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Cala42 on June 01, 2017, 09:23:45 PM
Excelent tracklist, kinda disappointing not seeing Luke or Ilya.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Luke will be somewhere on the album, either under a different name or unlisted as a ghost writer. Did anyone ever find out who Dylan Wiggans was from the Starboy album? Seemed to collaborate a lot with Cirkut.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on June 01, 2017, 10:58:21 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion that Luke will be somewhere on the album, either under a different name or unlisted as a ghost writer. Did anyone ever find out who Dylan Wiggans was from the Starboy album? Seemed to collaborate a lot with Cirkut.

https://www.discogs.com/artist/3027758-Dylan-Wiggins
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Cala42 on June 02, 2017, 01:23:04 AM
https://www.discogs.com/artist/3027758-Dylan-Wiggins

I came across that! I noticed the majority of theses albums are under Sony which I know Dr Luke had an exclusive deal with. He's also been rumoured to go under different pseudonyms before, I couldn't find much more info on Dylan Wiggins which is why I thought it might of been a pseudonym.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 02, 2017, 04:29:09 AM
BUT Luke with credits on Solange's album? Paloma Faith's?

Mm, I'm suspicious.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 08, 2017, 02:54:21 PM
Are you ready for the new Katy album?


Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 08, 2017, 09:01:41 PM
Are you ready for the new Katy album?


Didn't feel it the first time, I may give it another chance later.
I don't feel Katy or Max in this one at all.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 08, 2017, 11:13:57 PM
Some say it is her BIONIC or Artpop.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 09, 2017, 01:59:44 AM
It's a great album to my ears. Some cringey lyrics and vocal delivery but it's Katy's style. Great production and melodies scattered throughout. Definitely not a Teenage Dream or Prism but it still feels cohesive and current.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on June 09, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
Are you ready for the new Katy album?

not yet
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Dr. Fleischman on June 09, 2017, 09:20:04 AM
I like the singles and Witness and Roulette (I love that song). I appreciate the new, more electronic approach and interesting choice of producers - Wolf Cousins, Duke Dumont, Mike Will Made It, Jeff Bhasker, DJ Mustard. Who's missing there is.... Dr Luke. I'm not quite keen about the whole album to be honest.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: rxpills on June 09, 2017, 11:11:10 AM
I have to echo Dr. Fleischman's sentiments. I'm not sure if Katy's album—which I find very underwhelming and lazy—has more to do with Dr. Luke's absence, Max Martin losing his touch, Ali Payami's influence, or a combination of the three. 
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 10, 2017, 12:02:31 AM
I think the logic is to blame Dr Luke because he forced Max to find a a replacement and Ali is very close to Max, but it's not the best choice for Katy. I think it would have been different if Ilya or Klas Ahlund were involved. Or Stargate and Benny Blanco.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 10, 2017, 04:10:51 AM
Ali is a great option, but not for too many tracks.

It would have been great to have an edgier sounding record.
I missed Greg Kurstin. He did great working with Halsey.

Allie X's record beats the sh*t out of Witness.
She recorded with Billboard, Cirkut, Kool Kojac, Ammo, Mike Wise, Brett McLaughlin.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 10, 2017, 04:54:35 AM
The album is edgy enough, but not like Rihanna did with ANTI, it's just bad. Her sound is boring, the lyrics are shallow and max and Shellback didn't shine like they would
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: bugmenot on June 10, 2017, 10:12:22 AM
Taylor Swift lifted two and a half year streaming ban on the Witness release day. (http://www.wwtdd.com/2017/06/taylor-swift-is-tip-top-b*tch)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on June 10, 2017, 09:24:11 PM
I came across that! I noticed the majority of theses albums are under Sony which I know Dr Luke had an exclusive deal with. He's also been rumoured to go under different pseudonyms before, I couldn't find much more info on Dylan Wiggins which is why I thought it might of been a pseudonym.

He does.

Speaking of, I don't think pseudonyms and loopholes should be tolerated.

The album sounded horrible..."swish swish" sounded like a dude wrote it. The album is crap and probably the reason she originally got dropped by three labels. She can't write...or sing.  Sad little fame whore.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 11, 2017, 12:47:38 AM
Taylor putting 1989 and all her albums back on Spotify the same day Katy releases her new album is ridiculous. But promotion for both and Max now gets even richer. I don't complain. It's really handy to be able to stream her songs now instead of switching to iTunes or putting the CD into the player.

I am not yet sure if I like the "Witness" album - it is not really instant, needs lots of plays. Eventually it will grow on me.


Max tasks on the album can be displayed here (among them is Prophet 6) and solina

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_(Katy_Perry_album)
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_(Katy_Perry_album))
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on June 11, 2017, 08:56:10 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_(Katy_Perry_album)
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_(Katy_Perry_album))

Are you sure Wiki is right?

 There is no way Max wrote those songs. Producers take writing credits even if they don't write just like singers take credits for writing.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 11, 2017, 04:07:04 PM
Are you sure Wiki is right?

 There is no way Max wrote those songs. Producers take writing credits even if they don't write just like singers take credits for writing.
You either believe it or think that every song everyone is credited it's a possible lie of not writing/producing it.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 11, 2017, 07:21:41 PM
The promo for Witnes went too far, to my taste: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBj0qJ6bcIg

They streamed a therapy session.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: bugmenot on June 11, 2017, 10:08:04 PM
I think she will win her Grammy with this album.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 12, 2017, 03:26:44 AM
I complained about Ilya not being in the album, can someone confirm if Act My Age from the deluxe edition is produced by him? The song is the best I've heard in a while.
WHY THE FUCK IT'S NOT IN THE MAIN EDITION?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on June 12, 2017, 11:13:11 AM
You either believe it or think that every song everyone is credited it's a possible lie of not writing/producing it.

No Slash ////// needed.  Writing is different than production. If you don't do the work you shouldn't take credit or you look stupid. Like right now. Max looks retarded, again. Get off my dick and use your ears.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Rex on June 12, 2017, 11:47:38 PM
they should've co-worked with hit producer nznexus
lmao your comment made my day haha
The album though.... and the promotion reality show or whatever you called it.... and her haircut... and finally Miley's malibu... whats happening
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 13, 2017, 03:29:51 AM
https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/katy-perry-ranks-diplo-in-bed-video-james-corden?utm_source=thumpfbus

This is funny as hell.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 14, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Added a poll. Please vote for your favorite Max song on the album.

My vote goes to "Roulette" I think it really stands out. Super catchy.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 14, 2017, 07:37:58 PM
I complained about Ilya not being in the album, can someone confirm if Act My Age from the deluxe edition is produced by him? The song is the best I've heard in a while.
WHY THE FUCK IT'S NOT IN THE MAIN EDITION?
German wikipedia writes:    Ilya Rationale

Is this his nickname? Or is it a different Ilya?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: bugmenot on June 14, 2017, 09:26:04 PM
Ilya Rationale
Discogs says wikipedia lost a comma https://www.discogs.com/artist/4137849-Rationale-2 (https://www.discogs.com/artist/4137849-Rationale-2)

Spent some time producing and co-writing with the lovely Katy Perry. As if being around someone as talented and iconic as her wasn't awesome enough... today I found out that one of the songs we created made it onto the exclusive deluxe version of her album. Beyond happy! (https://www.facebook.com/iamrationale/photos/a.762417407181249.1073741828.499481163474876/1347572105332440/?type=3)

He learned that his song was chosen after the release. Interesting.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 14, 2017, 10:31:45 PM
Thank you.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCTpgQhUMAAGQ99.jpg)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 15, 2017, 09:04:24 AM
(http://666kb.com/i/dk3qb1go6luo3veqo.jpg)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Rebecca on June 15, 2017, 12:24:07 PM
I'm still trying to get into this album. Overall it's quite boring. Maybe it takes a while to get into it.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 15, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
(http://666kb.com/i/dk3qb1go6luo3veqo.jpg)
Thank you
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: synchro on June 17, 2017, 02:46:22 PM
Are you sure Wiki is right?

There is no way Max wrote those songs. Producers take writing credits even if they don't write just like singers take credits for writing.
What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: synchro on June 17, 2017, 02:52:09 PM
I'm keeping some of the Max Martin tracks + Bigger Than Me. The rest is different levels of mediocre and bland.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 17, 2017, 03:34:44 PM
The song "Witness" grows on me enormously. It is really addictive.

Btw - what does an A&R person do on an album like "Witness"?

Are they the ones who decide which of the songs will be on the album? Or are they listening to external demos?


Did Max approve all songs as an executive producer?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 17, 2017, 07:39:36 PM
The A&R represents the label's position about the tracks that make the cut.

Katy is the kind of artists that reworks the songs over and over again.
She said she had 40 songs for the album.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on June 18, 2017, 12:59:29 AM
The A&R represents the label's position about the tracks that make the cut.

Katy is the kind of artists that reworks the songs over and over again.
She said she had 40 songs for the album.
This is kinda similar to what happened with the last 2 albums of Madonna, especially in rebel heart, which is an odd concept, with some cringy music, with good demos (leaked) and awesome producers.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Adam B on June 18, 2017, 07:02:38 AM
Amazingly bad album, not one hit, not even one catchy song.  Sounds like shit.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on June 19, 2017, 08:19:44 PM
New single "Save as draft"
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Rebecca on June 20, 2017, 12:51:39 PM
oh dear. Saved As Draft as a single? Terrible choice. It's like Wide Awake but not as good.

I like Pendulum.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on June 29, 2017, 01:22:50 AM
The songs 1-4 and 8-12 (except 10) are the best ones.

Roulette and Bon Appétit are my favorites right now.

Has anyone heard Max's tooth yet? According to the booklet they're part of HHH. Also flawless backing vocals on Witness, Max! 8)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 29, 2017, 06:00:03 AM
I'm stuck with Bon Appetit.
It grew on me.

A LOT.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on June 29, 2017, 06:44:11 AM
I'm stuck with Bon Appetit.
It grew on me.

A LOT.

Ha! :)

The whistling at the end of Witness is sooooo flawless, brilliant!

I love the verse/chorus snare of Hey Hey Hey so much - so Ali <3 would've never guessed Sia's co-written this one, probably the first time I don't recognize her lol.
The way Katy sings the chorus is simply perfect.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - album WITNESS on June 9 (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on June 29, 2017, 04:53:44 PM
oh dear. Saved As Draft as a single? Terrible choice. It's like Wide Awake but not as good.

I like Pendulum.

SAD might be my least favorite, really an incredibly weird choice. However it's a funny song title :D

Pendulum is brilliant, "objectively" the best song of the album .
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 01, 2017, 12:15:24 AM
This might be Katy's best album yet! Very very good stuff on it, really excellent!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 02, 2017, 01:20:39 AM
These Roulette post chorus vocals by Shellback are everything.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on July 02, 2017, 04:05:21 AM
Seems to me that someone over here likes this album a lot  :P ::)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 03, 2017, 11:47:41 AM
Unlike Teenage Dream and Prism, Witness doesn't contain a "blackout" like Firework or This Moment.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 03, 2017, 07:34:43 PM
what does that mean, a blackout?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 03, 2017, 08:15:13 PM
what does that mean, a blackout?

A very bad song.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on July 03, 2017, 10:04:09 PM
You are biased AF.  The album blew chunks. 
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 03, 2017, 10:10:37 PM
You are biased AF.  The album blew chunks.

Thank you for your constructive comment.
However I'm wondering how I am biased if I like songs from writers/producers I barely knew before.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: onepass on July 03, 2017, 10:18:21 PM
Thank you for your constructive comment.
However I'm wondering how I am biased if I like songs from writers/producers I barely knew before.

I would have to re-listen to the entire album just so that I could get into a position where I could be constructive. I'm in Simon Cowell mode, Honestly, The album was so pitiful that I erased it from memory. Regardless of producer(s), distributor, entertainer, writer(s), or of what name is on the packaging; The. album. blew. chunks.

There is no other option but for you to be biased.

Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on July 03, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
It's not bias, it's a different perception, if you don't like it it doesn't mean everyone else will, Simon Cowell missed a lot of times too.
In my case I can tell I'm biased by Max, the album didn't call my attention but Max's songs (mostly) are stuck in my head.

I love how no one likes save as draft in this pool, and yet it's still the next single, lol.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 04, 2017, 03:38:16 AM
The album is not up to her standards.

Boring melodies, the tracks are average, pointless songwriting -lots of weird comparisons, LOTS- and is a miss to my tastes.

Being someone like her, she could have curate something different. Katy is this enviable position in her career: a well built fanbase and label support.
There's a lot of people doing great music that would die to work with her. She can do whatever she wants.

The album is focused on the tracks, not on the songs. Seems like all these songs are written over a beat, which is a pop industry standard and also the reason why the album doesn't work as a whole.

The main problem here is the songwriting: she should have work with songwriters insted of producers.
First: write the songs. SAY SOMETHING. After that arrange and produce the songs, trying to match your vision for the songs with the right producer.

In the Ross Golan podcasts, Bonnie McKee said she and Katy were "not close".
Maybe that's why they didn't write together for this project. Actually, lots of the writing in Teenage Dream and Prism are stories that already happened, Katy and Bonnie together.
And you kinda feel that honesty through the songs.
That's what I don't feel on Witness.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on July 04, 2017, 06:31:06 AM
I find it pretty interesting and also kind of strange that the reception to Witness is so polarized.

I enjoy the album a lot. I don't think the melodies are weak; the sound is a departure from her past music but the melodies are still there: Witness, Hey Hey Hey, Roulette, Miss You More, Power, Deja Vu, Bon Appetite, CTTR. That's half the album. The production is new for her, but I like it. Mind Maze, Tsunami- these kind of songs have a clear purpose. The mixing of self-reflection and coming to terms with life's inconsistencies... I don't see how this album is dishonest. If anything this is as direct as she has been. Save as Draft. Into Me You See- the personal, relationship side to her. Bon Appetite, of course the one necessary sexy/raunchy song which still sounds amazing to me, Swish Swish, the sassy song.

I don't know what else people would want? Sure the Max tracks don't sound like typical Max. One thing that got me on board was hearing Katy's explanations. Hearing about where she was when she made this album, how she's evolved and is still evolving, kind of not giving a fuck about it. That's refreshing for a pop star.

Idk what I'm trying to say other than I'm amazed how some of you abhor the album when to me it is really not bad- in fact it's great.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 04, 2017, 06:38:58 AM
It's not bad, I don't like it.
Two very different things.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 04, 2017, 08:04:23 AM
Déjŕ Vu, Mind Maze and Pendulum are three of her most interesting songs, love these songs. Especially the first two ones create such a special atmosphere, you can get lost in them. It's like diving into a new world.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Adam B on September 26, 2017, 05:48:13 AM
Holy crap, a couple of beers and I´ve been playing Chained To The Rhythm all night.. Is it a grower??
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on November 01, 2018, 04:04:12 PM
Who has produced this? https://open.spotify.com/track/2GlsXuQV0YOOwPy3XKFIS9?si=-hL-YZnwRNaKjApyXj4fUw
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on November 01, 2018, 05:08:10 PM
The song is registered in ASCAP and it's written by Benj Pasek and Justin Noble Paul. I don't know who they are.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on November 01, 2018, 05:57:56 PM
They are the writers of the musical and also from "The Greatest Showman".

On April 29, 2017, I went and saw Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway, and was emotionally transformed forever. In my own life, I’ve struggled with depression, and like so many, always feeling alone in the battle of wanting to belong.

That night, I was particularly struck by the song “Waving Through A Window.” It embodied the mental isolation I sometimes fought. So when my friends @benjpasek and @justinpaulmusic came to me and asked if I would like to re-record this song, not only to help launch the national tour, but to continue the conversation on mental health and all its complexities, I jumped right in.
I hope this song helps you know that you are not alone, and that I’m waving back at you.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on November 01, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
They are the writers of the musical and also from "The Greatest Showman".

On April 29, 2017, I went and saw Dear Evan Hansen on Broadway, and was emotionally transformed forever. In my own life, I’ve struggled with depression, and like so many, always feeling alone in the battle of wanting to belong.

That night, I was particularly struck by the song “Waving Through A Window.” It embodied the mental isolation I sometimes fought. So when my friends @benjpasek and @justinpaulmusic came to me and asked if I would like to re-record this song, not only to help launch the national tour, but to continue the conversation on mental health and all its complexities, I jumped right in.
I hope this song helps you know that you are not alone, and that I’m waving back at you.

Quote by Katy Perry, BTW.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on February 14, 2019, 04:51:40 PM
365 witz Zedd


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/365_(song) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/365_(song))
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 14, 2019, 05:05:04 PM
Written by Zedd, Katy Perry, Caroline Ailin, Corey Sanders, Daniel Davidsen, Peter Wallevik & Mich Hansen

Produced by Zedd, Peter Wallevik, Daniel Davidsen and Cutfather.

The video is a bit cheesy and the song pretty average, but I loved the chorus.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on April 27, 2019, 03:32:45 AM
Does anyone know if Bon Appetit turned into a meme or something? Suddenly It's gaining millions of views in YouTube

I haven't realized that it's the most view video of that era.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on April 27, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
I watched it again just the other day and I fully realized how good the song is and how great the video is as well.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 29, 2019, 07:37:58 PM
New single Never Really Over out this friday.
Allegedlly produced by Zedd & Dreamlab and written by Katy Perry, Farrago, Hayley Warner, Leah Haywood & Daniel James.

https://people.com/music/katy-perry-new-single-never-really-over/
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on May 29, 2019, 10:39:55 PM
https://www.vg.no/rampelys/musikk/i/70B1P8/dagny-forteller-at-katy-perry-tok-hennes-laat-helt-vilt?utm_source=vgfront&utm_content=row-1


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Now, however, Dagny tells that she has not sat at a desk and written material on behalf of, or for, Katy Perry. To VG, Dagny says that Perry and her co-writers have simply fallen for "Love You Like That" and made a new song based on it. The result is the single "Never Really Over".

"Katy Perry and her people wanted make their own version, and they would give us credit for it - they have had an open dialogue with us about this. I’m very proud. I do not have any children to be proud of, so I would rather be happy on the song's behalf.

This is the first song from her new album, and yes, I've heard it - it's like Katy Perry back as a pop queen. It's totally wild! I am always very excited about all things related to releasing my own songs, but it is super exciting to be on this side of it.

It's incredibly cool that she does this (credits artists), she could just as well let it be. I mean, what would I do, call my non-existent lawyer to take her to court? It says a lot about her that she's not just going to try to get away with it.

There are many similarities (in our two songs). Some will say they are very similar, others may say they are not the same at all, but I think there are some harmonies there and the way her song is built up, which resembles mine. Mostly musical, not lyrically."
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 30, 2019, 02:18:12 AM
Dagny's track has additional production by Mattman and Robin. She's cool.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 30, 2019, 04:28:19 AM
I love that song, props to Katy for doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on May 30, 2019, 06:24:46 PM
You sure you’re thinking of the right song? Cause Jason Gill produced the Dagny track and Mattman/Robin arn’t credited anywhere.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 30, 2019, 07:21:20 PM
You sure you’re thinking of the right song? Cause Jason Gill produced the Dagny track and Mattman/Robin arn’t credited anywhere.

Written by Jason Gill, Michelle Buzz & Dagny.
Additional percusions, electric guitar by Mattman and Robin
BG Vocals by Karin Antonson & Astera Ebrahim
Produced by Jason Gill and mixed by Serbhan Ghenea :)

Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on May 30, 2019, 10:31:43 PM
Cool! Where is this from? :)
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 31, 2019, 12:41:00 AM
Apparently Leah Haywood of Dreamlab co-wrote the song.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 31, 2019, 12:57:02 AM
New single Never Really Over out this friday.
Allegedlly produced by Zedd & Dreamlab and written by Katy Perry, Farrago, Hayley Warner, Leah Haywood & Daniel James.

https://people.com/music/katy-perry-new-single-never-really-over/

Yep.
Cool! Where is this from? :)
Discogs, Genius, Spotify, AllMusic, Quobuz :)

I'm not very excited about this, to be honest.
I'm way more hyped about Kim Petras and Luke...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 31, 2019, 02:04:20 AM
New single Never Really Over out this friday.
Allegedlly produced by Zedd & Dreamlab and written by Katy Perry, Farrago, Hayley Warner, Leah Haywood & Daniel James.

https://people.com/music/katy-perry-new-single-never-really-over/

Umm, so... People.com says it's not written nor based on Dagny's song?
Where do they get the info?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 31, 2019, 06:20:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEb5gNsmGJ8

The video for Never Really Over is out.

According to iTunes, the song was written by Zedd, Daniel James, Gino Barletta, Leah Haywood, Dagny Norvoll Sandvik, Harley Warner, Jason Gill, Katheryn Elizabeth Hudson & Michelle Buzz.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on May 31, 2019, 11:08:45 AM
Dagny herself told it on Norwegian newspaper that the song is based on her song.

But they credited all.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 31, 2019, 03:22:03 PM
It's very reminiscent to dagny's song, I like the original song way more, but it's not bad, it's very middle of the road.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 01, 2019, 08:11:27 PM
I love both songs. Love the harmonies on the chorus -or post chorus?-, she did something similar on 365.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 17, 2019, 06:26:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tet3r7GT_zU

Katy Perry Talks Never Really Over + New Music/Album

She said she had the song since August 2018 and wasn't really sure if it was a good one.
She wrote a song called Harley's on Hawaii, about a trip with his boyfriend.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 19, 2019, 09:49:05 AM
[...]
She wrote a song called Harley's on Hawaii, about a trip with his boyfriend.
Whose boyfriend?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 20, 2019, 08:35:41 PM
Whose boyfriend?

Then boyfriend now fiancé Orlando Bloom.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 21, 2019, 09:49:32 AM
So Katy Perry wrote a song about Orlando Bloom's - who's most likely not gay - boyfriend?
I'm very confused right now.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on July 21, 2019, 11:30:12 AM
No, he said that it’s written about Orlando Bloom who was her boyfriend then, now fiancée.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 21, 2019, 09:57:07 PM
Am I lost in translation or Benny is just being a j*erk? :D
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 22, 2019, 12:33:12 PM
No, he said that it’s written about Orlando Bloom who was her boyfriend then, now fiancée.

No, José said that it's written about "his" boyfriend, so it's obviously about a man's boyfriend.
After asking "Whose boyfriend?" the reply was "Then boyfriend now fiancé Orlando Bloom."
So I assume he meant Orlando's boyfriend.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 22, 2019, 08:17:57 PM
No, José said that it's written about "his" boyfriend, so it's obviously about a man's boyfriend.
After asking "Whose boyfriend?" the reply was "Then boyfriend now fiancé Orlando Bloom."
So I assume he meant Orlando's boyfriend.

Touché hahaha
Well, her boyfriend...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on July 30, 2019, 05:10:11 PM

So... This guy won the trial against Katy Perry whom accused her of copying his beat on Dark Horse. I think this is even worse than what happened with Pharrell and Robin Thicke
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on July 30, 2019, 06:13:19 PM
I hope he at least makes the best out of his five minutes of fame.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 30, 2019, 08:20:25 PM
Everything has been done. I'm impressed they didn't make an agreement and went to trial...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on August 06, 2019, 12:08:18 AM
"Katy Perry and Others Must Pay $2.8 Million Over ‘Dark Horse,’ Jury Says"

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According to the verdict, Ms. Perry must pay $550,000, while her label, Capitol Records, owes nearly $1.3 million. Ms. Perry’s five collaborators in writing the song were also ordered to pay, including the star producers Max Martin, who owes $253,000, and Dr. Luke, who owes $61,000 personally, while his company, Kasz Money Inc., owes $189,000.

nytimes
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 06, 2019, 04:13:06 AM
Max pays more because his input was more meaningful to the song than Luke's? or what is it?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on August 06, 2019, 10:49:05 AM
Remember Cascada singing "San Francisco"

This was a more blatant copy and she got away with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7EWWoon468
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on August 06, 2019, 01:47:01 PM
Remember Cascada singing "San Francisco"

This was a more blatant copy and she got away with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7EWWoon468

Maybe a case of the German saying "Where no accuser, there no attorney."
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: bugmenot on August 06, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
Max pays more because his input was more meaningful to the song than Luke's? or what is it?

Looks like 49/51.
61+189 = 250

Max Martin is Aktiebolag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktiebolag), all what he earns he puts into a "company" which is he himself.

Luke divides himself from his company.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 06, 2019, 08:36:57 PM
Well, after each session you split the songs.
Each one did 25%, 20%, 5%, etc and all the writers have to agree about the amounts because that's what they get from royalties.
And I think the differences are for their respective publishing deals.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 09, 2019, 07:16:06 PM
Loved it!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 11, 2019, 12:45:22 PM
https://youtu.be/pgaP7lzC0yA

Apparently Katy met Charlie Puth while working with the Max camp.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 12, 2019, 07:51:39 PM
Josh Kloss accused Katy Perry of sexual harassment via Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/B1CFg2xFG-C/

You know. After I met Katy, we sang a worship song, “open the eyes of my heart”
She was cool and kind. When other people were around she was cold as ice even called the act of kissing me “gross” to the entire set while filming. Now I was pretty embarrassed but kept giving my all, as my ex was busy cheating on me and my daughter was just a toddler, I knew I had to endure for her sake. After the first day of shooting, Katy invited me to a strip club in Santa Barbara. I declined and told her “I have to go back to hotel and rest, because this job is all I have right now”

So I saw Katy a couple times after her break up with Russel.
This one time I brought a friend who was dying to meet her. It was Johny Wujek’s birthday party at moonlight roller way. And when I saw her, we hugged and she was still my crush. But as I turned to introduce my friend, she pulled my Adidas sweats and underwear out as far as she could to show a couple of her guy friends and the crowd around us, my penis.
Can you imagine how pathetic and embarrassed i felt?

I just say this now because our culture is set on proving men of power are perverse.
But females with power are just as disgusting.
So for all her good she is an amazing leader, hers songs are mainly great empowering anthems.
And that is it. I continued to watch her use clips of her music videos for her world tour and then her dvd, only highlighting one of her male co-stars, and it was me.
I made around 650 in total off of teenage dream. I was lorded over by her reps, about not discussing a single thing about anything regarding Katy publicly. And a couple interviews they edited and answered for me.

So, happy anniversary to one of the most confusing, assaulting, and belittling jobs I’ve ever done. Yay #teenagedream

I was actually gonna play the song and sing it on ukele for the anniversary, but then as I was tuning I thought, fuck this, I’m not helping her bs image another second.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: turnaround on March 05, 2020, 09:58:50 AM
Never Worn White


Johan CarlssonKaty PerryJohn RyanJacob Kasher Hindlin

 Johan Carlsson


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyKgYMQ-AlQ


You can also find RAMI in the credits.

https://listen.tidal.com/album/133033021/credits
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on March 05, 2020, 11:45:49 AM
Not keen to ballads. But this one got me.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on May 07, 2020, 08:16:14 PM
The Witness album is so great - Ali Payami really is the producer of the past decade!

Witness and Hey Hey Hey are two of the most interesting Max Martin songs ever.

Sure, Prism will forever be her masterpiece but Witness isn't much worse!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 07, 2020, 11:17:37 PM
New single out next week. It's called Daisies.

Written by Katy Perry, Jon Bellion & Jacob Kasher and produced by The Monsters and the Strangers.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: Snipes3000 on May 08, 2020, 02:33:20 AM
Why is Katy Perry no longer working with Max Martin? Does anyone has some thoughts about that?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 08, 2020, 08:41:29 PM
I wonder the same thing...
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 15, 2020, 11:33:10 PM
New single out next week. It's called Daisies.

Written by Katy Perry, Jon Bellion & Jacob Kasher and produced by The Monsters and the Strangers.




Thoughts? I like it.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on May 15, 2020, 11:35:51 PM
Jon Bellion is keeping the sound of Monsters & Strangerz fresh AF, I still have in my head vulnerable by Selena since it came out. The highest note she sings while saying Daisy gives me chills.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 16, 2020, 02:58:22 AM
Sounds a lot like In The Middle now that I'm listening.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: McCartneyMartin on May 16, 2020, 06:08:39 AM



Thoughts? I like it.
I like this new direction she going into. Very mature and something she should of been doing like 10 years ago with Max & Luke instead of dated teen pop like she did.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on May 16, 2020, 07:58:51 AM
the high-note screechy thing reminds me of Bonnie McKee lol. overall, it's a cute track. nice lyrics. I think Luke could've done the guitar strums/overall production better. kinda like Lovin' So Hard by Becky G.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 17, 2020, 10:52:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5wHWtNAG1U&feature=em-lsp


She's very likable. And she's sharing some of her struggles, honestly.
In this interview she said she felt Witness didn't match her expectations and after that she thinks she was in a "loop of winning" and realized she does music to share a message. It's great to see artists realizing stuff like that.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on May 19, 2020, 12:07:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5wHWtNAG1U&feature=em-lsp


She's very likable. And she's sharing some of her struggles, honestly.
In this interview she said she felt Witness didn't match her expectations and after that she thinks she was in a "loop of winning" and realized she does music to be share a message. It's great to see artists realizing stuff like that.

She's incredibly likable, well-spoken, and specific. I started feeling that way towards her during Witness, when she did that entertaining yet revealing live stream thing. She's a smart, feeling woman who's not afraid to be self-aware and honest about her career.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 20, 2020, 06:26:49 PM

Produced by Johan Carlsson and Co produced by Elvira Anderfjard, songs are keep getting shorter and shorter apparently.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: B Steady on August 21, 2020, 02:07:51 AM
Also very important to have the word "b*tch" included.

Quo vadis, music industry?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 26, 2020, 06:06:00 AM
Tracklist and collaborator revealed: two OzGo tracks, one Ian Kirkpatrick, two FRND -Andrew Goldstein.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 28, 2020, 06:30:10 PM

The album is out and it's catchy, I'm glad to see her collaborating back with Stargate, collaborating with new people like FRND, Elvira, Michael Pollack, Madison Love. And collaborating with the swedes, both Oscars and Johan.

Sadly, this is her first album without Max somewhere in the credits.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on August 28, 2020, 08:55:30 PM
High On Your Supply is niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

Cry About It Later is my fave by far, amazing vocals and production.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 29, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
Goddamn, I hate target exclusives, that song is a banger.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: melodicmoonlight on August 31, 2020, 08:38:48 AM
The vocal production/mixing is enjoyable across the album. Both in the way it's produced and how she actually sings. A bunch of vocal moments either in her tone or delivery reminded me of One of the Boys-era Katy, it was kind of a nice flashback; specifically on Resilient.

Songs like Tucked, Only Love, and Not the End of the World have strong melodies. Nothing is quite an ear-worm as TD but they're catchy in a different, less saturated way? I guess what I'm trying to say is these songs sound new for her and I like that she doesn't just stick with the same formula necessarily or work with the same people. I love her as an artist!
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nanofives on August 31, 2020, 05:43:00 PM
Does anyone know the original song Katy samples on Not the End of the World? It's not credited.
I've seen the same sample on this song by Ina Wroldsen and Quiz & Larossi from a few years ago.

Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: AlexanderLaBrea on September 03, 2020, 08:50:07 PM
Yeah, the song is called Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye”. 60’s song but I guess it’s more famous as a stadium chant.
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: j.fco.morales on May 17, 2021, 03:13:25 AM
Who's German? It's like the name German or german from Germany?
Title: Re: Katy Perry - WITNESS album (incl. Bon Appétit & Chained To The Rhythm)
Post by: nznexus on May 19, 2021, 05:43:40 AM
Max martin needs to come back again.. i think the pandemic really impacted the music industry hard