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Title: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - A resounding failure
Post by: backgammonfiend on December 07, 2016, 02:26:47 AM
I will make sure that I get this song out by any means necessary. So far, the only option currently available to me is to buy a master use license from Sony Music, and they want about 3100 USD for it.

I KNOW that there's a distributor promo CD out there with the instrumental on it, there has to be if they performed the song live on TRL. However, I have found to date exactly zero people who knows anyone with a connection to anyone that has ever seen said CD. If any of the wonderful users of the forum know where it is, don't hesitate to speak up  :)

The first place I will look is New York City after I get on midyear break, as I live less than an hour from there. That's basically SME's base of operations.

skip to the last page to see the ending, itís sad i know but this instrumental will likely never surface
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: gm33 on December 07, 2016, 02:54:46 AM
I've been looking for this for EVER.

On wikipedia someone said there's a UK release of this in 2016 with an instrumental on it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearin'_Up_My_Heart

I don't think anything like that came out...
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: B Steady on December 07, 2016, 11:19:49 AM
I've been looking for this for EVER.

On wikipedia someone said there's a UK release of this in 2016 with an instrumental on it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearin'_Up_My_Heart

I don't think anything like that came out...

Wow, this 2016 release is very interesting :D
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on December 08, 2016, 12:09:44 AM
ha... if that cd was real i'd renew my fucking passport today
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: ferser1 on December 10, 2016, 11:30:54 AM
dont worry. if u can verify if its real ill go myself. its a 1 hr flight
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: ner0 on December 23, 2016, 02:52:23 AM
hah wow, I respect your obsession and dedication a lot! Best of luck!
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on January 18, 2017, 06:36:54 AM
Well, I went straight to the Sony buliding and they confirmed what I suspected to be true.
There's only 3 ways to get instrumentals:

Licensing (which is expensive as fuck)
Mix session leaks (most common source of these is Rockband, but I know some tapes that leaked directly from project staff like the dangerous woman album) - These are unsanctioned by the labels.
Published promo CDs (sent to distributors or the public market)

SME says that unpublished material (aka an instrumental that was never put on a promo) may not be directly bought from the label without a license. However, distributor promos don't have to be licensed as the distributor already bought the license for it. According to Sony themselves, if Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental was used on an episode of TRL, then MTV archives contain the distributor promo with that mix. MTV being one of the more popular distributors, they probably have a substantial amount of other unleaked Cheiron tracks besides that one in the archives too.

If I could find a way to tap into those archives, I could get the TUMH instrumental without a license. If anyone knows anybody who could help me with that, don't hesitate to speak up.

I'm going straight to MTV's building first chance I get (probably March).

This hunt will only end when they bury me.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 08, 2017, 02:32:33 AM
I went back to NYC for spring break and visited all six CHR stations, now I have two radio station directors that I can possibly request to look for this.

Tomorrow, I visit visual media distributors, starting with MTV.

I did find Sometimes by PM in the interim, will release to the public on April 30 to coincide with the 18 year anniversary.

if RCA or anyone else ever thought i was gonna stop, they officially played themselves.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: B Steady on March 10, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
if RCA or anyone else ever thought i was gonna stop, they officially played themselves.

 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: lmnop on March 12, 2017, 01:41:50 AM
Check ur messages backgammonfiend  ;)
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 12, 2017, 08:02:52 AM
are you the same guy who tried to email me?
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: lmnop on March 12, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
No I just messaged you via forums, asking if you could pleeease send me the Sometimes instrumental? It would mean a lot  :D
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 13, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
i swear if one more goddamn person messages me about sometimes, i'm not gonna release it.

i literally said in the post what day i'm going to leak it on.

i swear y'all either can't read or wanna annoy me. that shit cost me 55 euros, and it's coming out for free. unless you wanna donate real money back to the "true savage buys instrumentals" fund then please stfu.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 13, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
To the forum moderators: do we really have to accept this kind of replies?

This user messaged me privately before asking for some files and replying in such bad manners when what I had wasn't matching his expectations.
I don't know if anyone else had the same experience, but every now and then we have some "special member" with undesirable behaviour.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 13, 2017, 07:06:26 PM
Well... it speaks for itself.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: Tano87 on March 17, 2017, 06:54:04 AM
U said u found Sometimes instrumental and u were about to leak that for the 18th anniversary, and than u ask for it promising that u won't leak it...  :o :-\ :-X
And I'm not even mentioning the part where u make urself important for the leaks... I think multitracks would be way more important than instrumentals.

Looking for the old '00 Cheiron projects.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 21, 2017, 12:18:16 AM
says the guy with no multitrack leaks to his name... put some songs out before you start talking shit boy. i could actually buy the i want it that way multitrack for 350, but everyone already has the song without vocals so i don't see a reason to spend that money. where are you "looking" anyway? did you actually travel to Germany, and Stockholm, and ask people there for stuff?

also, your point makes no sense. had i gotten it from you, then i wouldn't be leaking it so soon, but i didn't get it from you so you can take those crocodile tears elsewhere.

Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 23, 2017, 02:25:20 AM
The multitrack of I Want It That Way is currently being offered by a remix tape seller from Frankfurt. I messaged him on Soundcloud looking for Dr. Luke and Shellback stuff, he eventually gave me a list of all songs credited to "Max Martin" - I Want It That Way was the most expensive entry at $350. Second place was Teenage Dream at 250.

No, he did not have any song on Breakaway, or I would have bought it already.

Edit: I obtained Sometimes from a remix DJ operating in Winnipeg. He had the original promo disc. Unfortunately, we had a dispute over money and now he hates me. I found out he had neither TUMH, IWYB, TMWYL, or TTWII prior to this, so he probably didn't have anything else that was relevant.
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: Tano87 on March 27, 2017, 08:09:27 AM
I Want It That Way  :'( :'( :'(
Hope this is not a way to scam people here...

says the guy with no multitrack leaks to his name... put some songs out before you start talking shit boy. i could actually buy the i want it that way multitrack for 350, but everyone already has the song without vocals so i don't see a reason to spend that money. where are you "looking" anyway? did you actually travel to Germany, and Stockholm, and ask people there for stuff?

also, your point makes no sense. had i gotten it from you, then i wouldn't be leaking it so soon, but i didn't get it from you so you can take those crocodile tears elsewhere.

People still want multitracks to do their own remixes with vocal and elements or sample and other stuff like these...That's why they're more important...Are you sure he has the whole thing? I know vocal multitracks are floating around and they're not the one that already leaked years ago.

Forum the test actually I don't think it's important the source of the stuff if someone here or elsewhere asks u to not leak u shouldn't..
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: Tano87 on March 27, 2017, 08:14:00 AM
Double
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on March 27, 2017, 07:22:49 PM
sorry i was misled by the tapeseller, i want it that way separated instruments he doesn't actually have

my b, the list he sent didn't say that anywhere
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: gm33 on August 15, 2017, 03:51:50 AM
I finally acquired the I Want it That Way and Tearin' Up My Heart instrumentals. It only took  20 years ha!
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: addictedsober on August 15, 2017, 05:50:01 AM
I finally acquired the I Want it That Way and Tearin' Up My Heart instrumentals. It only took  20 years ha!

the Cheiron webpage posted it as well
http://www.cheironmusicgroup.com/cheiron-studios.html

was hoping they would post some other...
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: ferser1 on August 15, 2017, 02:56:24 PM
dont see tearin up my heart instrumental tho, only some us version
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on August 27, 2017, 02:52:59 AM
don't play games with my heart like that gm33

Where's that download link @
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: ferser1 on August 30, 2017, 11:03:04 AM
it was not the real instrumental of Tearin up my heart, next time plz mention that
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: cheironlover on September 16, 2017, 11:49:55 PM
https://soundcloud.com/oh-my-god-the-rock-is-back-again Hey, guys! It's right here, quit fighting!
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: addictedsober on September 17, 2017, 01:01:39 AM
https://soundcloud.com/oh-my-god-the-rock-is-back-again Hey, guys! It's right here, quit fighting!

it's a remake, it says the tag for the song
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on September 17, 2017, 01:11:58 AM
https://soundcloud.com/oh-my-god-the-rock-is-back-again Hey, guys! It's right here, quit fighting!

lmao first time i've seen my archive account plugged by someone else.

obviously that's not the real one, it's 5 months old and this thread is still up. nobody's found a song from the debut album yet been 2 decades
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - ongoing
Post by: backgammonfiend on February 13, 2019, 11:06:54 PM
A tragic ending to this saga. I have confirmation that no DAT tape from the nsync debut album is still functional.

The only way to get an instrumental from that LP would be to miraculously find a promo disc which was not even sent to radios (only live show hosts appear to have gotten those, no radio anyone knows has a copy) which is 11/10 difficulty - or to license an instrumental mix from the ANALOG masters, which is more expensive than all hell.

(Or Ron Hester / one of the original producers decides to cough it up)

I pray that Remix Hits or Harmonix or whoever finds a reason to have an nsync throwback and get these stems out the vault. Otherwise, nothing from the nsync debut album will ever see the light of day outside test pressing mixes from a studio (example: https://www.discogs.com/Kelly-Clarkson-TV-Tracks/release/11455604) which are simply not up to par with a fully mastered LP version
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - A resounding failure
Post by: backgammonfiend on October 23, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
I've updated the I Want You Back remake for the last time, this time it's surely suitable for karaoke night. no echo vocal chop nonsense and no high hats & horns mugging up the synth overlays.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAWX-dQ7fds5VWHQrmcwMM3rMZa4_tWa/

i've been trying to update the remake of TUMH as well to incorporate a more accurate first verse and outro but the double reverb is proving exceptionally difficult to silence. will update again by halloween, i wish someone could just dig up the original already, even if it's a test press like for IWYB

Edit: 10/30 - 4th remake now out, unfortunately had to use vinyl source for verse 2 and chorus 2+3 as no filtration system can handle the backing vocal layers there. it took a while just to clear vocal bleed from verse 1 to do the rest would be dummy long and you can do that if you want to... i won't be. this one would probably work for karaoke night too

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mJJhNQub2Lkq0f6RNV3vkywrL11fJoj5/
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - A resounding failure
Post by: *Sabine* on November 01, 2020, 12:29:37 PM
Impressive work! Thank you so much!!
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - A resounding failure
Post by: Dagge on December 13, 2020, 07:53:52 PM
How did you do it? Phase cancellation?
Title: Re: My hunt for the Tearin' Up My Heart instrumental - A resounding failure
Post by: Dodger Of Zion on March 13, 2021, 06:37:49 AM
I've updated the I Want You Back remake for the last time, this time it's surely suitable for karaoke night. no echo vocal chop nonsense and no high hats & horns mugging up the synth overlays.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dAWX-dQ7fds5VWHQrmcwMM3rMZa4_tWa/

i've been trying to update the remake of TUMH as well to incorporate a more accurate first verse and outro but the double reverb is proving exceptionally difficult to silence. will update again by halloween, i wish someone could just dig up the original already, even if it's a test press like for IWYB

Edit: 10/30 - 4th remake now out, unfortunately had to use vinyl source for verse 2 and chorus 2+3 as no filtration system can handle the backing vocal layers there. it took a while just to clear vocal bleed from verse 1 to do the rest would be dummy long and you can do that if you want to... i won't be. this one would probably work for karaoke night too

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mJJhNQub2Lkq0f6RNV3vkywrL11fJoj5/

I created an account with the sole purpose of saying thank you for this.  I just wish I could go back in time and tell 15 year old me that yes, here you go, here's an instrumental of that song that's driving your dad up a wall!