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Title: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: david on October 27, 2020, 12:51:35 AM
What do you guys think about the dr. luke comeback?

het got a number one this year with say so and is like they (industry) are hearing his side of the story now

Couple weeks ago Avril lavigne followed him on instagram but people start to get mad and then she unfollowed him


https://twitter.com/support4avril/status/1314279223318765568




Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 27, 2020, 09:22:02 AM
I think it's great. He deserves success because he's incredibly talented.

There's no reason why he shouldn't be able to work again based on allegations which, as each year passes, are fading in the public eye. The fact that the lawsuit went above its intent to "seek justice" and became a defamation and slander parade is what rubbed me the wrong way. It's one thing to take it to court but to ruin this man's life and for fans like Avril's to call for her to not follow him on social media... it's craziness. If Chris Brown physically BEAT Rihanna and we saw VISUAL PROOF of that, and he still has his career and has released tons of music, why can't a behind-the-scenes producer do the same? Especially since, in Luke's case, all the claims against him were never found to be true. Not to mention, Kesha has moved on. So why are there still ripple effects of fans and people being so dead set against him? Time to give that up.

All in all, I've been a huge fan of Luke's since 2007 and I really think he sticks out from all the rest as a gifted pop producer/song crafter. I'm excited to hear what's next from him and who he's been working with lately, aside from Kim Petras. I personally think Avril should team up with him again. She's got nothing to lose- her career is in the toilet anyway. But I think he's sticking with up and coming talent like Doja, who we saw explode this past year.

<3
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on October 27, 2020, 09:52:50 AM
It's one of the faults in our contemporary society to pretend like he was found guilty of committing a crime. Just like racism it is something we should speak out against if it happens in our midst. Because obviously still thinking that luke gave kesha a roofie is irrational as there is no solid proof and there were more reasons for kesha to lie than not to lie considering her contract/money issues.


Enjoy the video he posted on his insta and don't forget to press follow and like :P
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on October 27, 2020, 02:09:20 PM
I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 27, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Shall we separate the artist from its craft?
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on October 27, 2020, 07:41:38 PM
Should we? In the end knowing the artist is a key point when it comes to how someone develops their craft. Luke is what it is because of his background and the people he collaborated with during all these years. I think I'd just rather ignore the whole lawsuit thing and move on.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on October 28, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
Yes forget about all that kesha stuff and let's just talk about his music.

Here is a documentary where you see Luke getting peppersprayed by Avril Lavigne. And you actually see him playing guitar in the studio and working on his trademark drums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2Rh-sxs5c&t=988s&ab_channel=AvrilLavigneIsMyDrug
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: backgammonfiend on October 28, 2020, 10:35:37 PM
you love to see it . they kept big homie down for too long despite all the evidence including kesha's 2011 deposition saying he was innocent

maybe this taught him not to overexert himself on contracts going forward, doja seems to be going places and already survived multiple 'cancellation' attempts. i will say his beats don't seem to be as expansive as they were before the lawsuit he seems to be frequently reliant on vocals to carry the song, which is why cirkut is currently ahead of him right now

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 29, 2020, 08:04:54 AM
you love to see it . they kept big homie down for too long despite all the evidence including kesha's 2011 deposition saying he was innocent

maybe this taught him not to overexert himself on contracts going forward, doja seems to be going places and already survived multiple 'cancellation' attempts. i will say his beats don't seem to be as expansive as they were before the lawsuit he seems to be frequently reliant on vocals to carry the song, which is why cirkut is currently ahead of him right now

Meh. Cirkut's solo production is good but a little lackluster compared to his joint productions with Luke. The Ava Max project is great, but like I said, is missing that undeniable Luke shine and precision.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 29, 2020, 05:32:47 PM
Why Cirkut and Luke are not working together anymore?
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on October 30, 2020, 01:15:32 AM
Cirkut had a contract at prescription song which expired. He probably has more potential to make bigger money without that contract, since Luke is known for signing people with not a royal amount of pay out. Ask Bonnie Mcphee, who spoke about it on Ross' podcast. Cirkut mentions the expired contract in an interview and says that he has no issues with Luke.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on October 30, 2020, 02:06:57 AM
Cirkut had a contract at prescription song which expired. He probably has more potential to make bigger money without that contract, since Luke is known for signing people with not a royal amount of pay out. Ask Bonnie Mcphee, who spoke about it on Ross' podcast. Cirkut mentions the expired contract in an interview and says that he has no issues with Luke.


I'll check that out!
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on November 12, 2020, 10:48:27 AM
Love that Avril did an attempt. At least she tried.

Also, love that Luke and Avril connect now, I remember discovered this forum ten years ago searching "Why Avril and Dr Luke don't work together anymore"
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on November 12, 2020, 06:07:26 PM
It's a phase for most artists, not everyone collaborates with the same people over and over, we've got exceptions like P!nk, but even Ariana after 6 years of continuous collaboration with Max it came to an end (for now) this year with her latest album.
It's also a phase for Avril to collaborate with people whom she didn't collaborate in a long time, hence Lauren Christy from The Matrix on her latest album. I don't know if Avril suits Luke's 2020 sound with her image but she did that collaboration with Nicki Minaj that was out of place and... well... Hello Kitty.
Anything could happen really.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on November 12, 2020, 07:00:36 PM
Yes and it was also a phase where Luke started signing artists and he prefers working with his own artists than others he said in an interview.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on December 02, 2020, 09:53:26 AM
The Kid Laroi — F*ck You, Goodbye produced by Luke. Guitar is also here.

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on December 02, 2020, 07:39:17 PM
Is there any new interviews around? I haven't seen a thing after the Kesha lawsuit.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 02, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
The Kid Laroi — F*ck You, Goodbye produced by Luke. Guitar is also here.


Post Malone / Kim Petras Reminds Me / Lil Aaron / Baby E vibes.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on December 03, 2020, 11:01:33 PM
Is there any new interviews around? I haven't seen a thing after the Kesha lawsuit.

One of the questions during the Kesha lawsuit was if Dr Luke is a public figure - if he was a public figure, then he had to live with the defamation created by Kesha without getting any compensation. The judge ruled otherwise. He is not a public figure - and that might explain why he shun giving interviews during the Kesha case, which was only settled earlier this year if I'm not mistaken. Either way, he has recently posted something on his instagram. Further I have not seen a thing coming directly from him but only things like people talking about him, like in interviews done by prescription songs (rx songs) staff. I'm a huge dr luke fan, so please let me know if there is anything interesting coming out
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on December 04, 2020, 08:54:40 PM
there was some case ruling this year we missed?
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on December 05, 2020, 12:46:36 AM
Yes, let me help you https://www.eonline.com/uk/news/1120458/kesha-is-ordered-to-pay-375-000-as-dr-luke-defamation-case-continues There might be newer developments. Oh yeah, also a new Dr Luke song this week. Lourdiz - Za Za https://open.spotify.com/track/2S1OhtDlIEiNYqEis392dM?si=HQetNDvPT7iIr4NIjdupXQ
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on December 08, 2020, 06:49:14 AM
Another Kid Laroi song by Luke, this time interpolating Reminds Me by Kim Petras which originally was supposed to have Juice WRLD. Instead, it was re-worked with Kid Laroi w/Juice as the feature and re-titled Reminds Me of You.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMEZtIATpkQ

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on December 10, 2020, 07:42:15 PM
Sound-on-Sound unpaywalled the article on Say So (https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/inside-track-doja-cat-ft-nicki-minaj-say-so) with Luke's engineer Clint Gibbs, mixed Say So.

On speakers, mics, Max Martin, AutoTune.

Quote
I'd sit on the floor, making sure Britney could not see me so she'd be more relaxed

Quote
When I have to mute a word, I will take the word before it and will delay it with some reverb to fill the empty space.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on March 19, 2021, 08:35:30 AM
Newest Dr. Luke-produced track to be released, Circles by Lourdiz.



Written by: Alyssa Lourdiz Cantu, Lukasz Gottwald, Theron Thomas
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on March 21, 2021, 10:14:05 PM

This one is also by Luke in 2021.

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on March 22, 2021, 05:49:22 PM
Newest Dr. Luke-produced track to be released, Circles by Lourdiz.



Written by: Alyssa Lourdiz Cantu, Lukasz Gottwald, Theron Thomas

There's actually 4 songs by Lourdiz produced by Luke since last year, they're interesting, it's like a female version of Baby E, some songs are trash but there's interesting concepts in here



This one is also by Luke in 2021.


It's not bad but I prefer the songs Luke did for both of them separately. I wonder if Doja came up with this idea or if it was arranged by Luke himself to do this collab.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 22, 2021, 06:43:01 PM
Luke owns Rx songs and as far as I know, he has publishing credits in every track produced by their staff.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on March 22, 2021, 11:32:23 PM
Could be, but he does not have a songwritnig or production credit on all RXsongs output. Aside from RXsongs it is also called Prescription Songs. The former name was Kemosabe.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on March 23, 2021, 12:47:30 AM
I think publishing credits are not often stated in the credits of the songs, sometimes when I see the producer's name Luke appears as "Dr. Luke for Prescription Songs" but most of the times he's just Dr. Luke on the producer credits and Lukasz Gottwald on the writer credits (MADE IN CHINA is being used less often and we haven't seen another song by Loctor Duke).
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 23, 2021, 01:45:58 AM
Could be, but he does not have a songwritnig or production credit on all RXsongs output. Aside from RXsongs it is also called Prescription Songs. The former name was Kemosabe.

Two things: Rx =  is the symbol for a medical prescription. We're talking about the same thing.
And when I mean "publishing credit" is being a writer in every track of the Rx writers.
I don't know if he oversees everything or he is listed as part of an abusive contract...
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on March 23, 2021, 12:39:43 PM
Oh didnt know that part about RX meaning prescription ;D. But he is not a writer on all output of RXSongs. Some weeks the instagram page of RXsongs posts their new releases in the stories and I investigated the credits to keep my Dr Luke releases playlists for spotify up to date. (Anyone interested in the playlists, search in spotify 'Dr Luke <year you desire>'. I have a playlist for his output categorised per year. In my account you can find the same categorisation of playlists for max martin and oscar holter).
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on March 23, 2021, 02:36:39 PM
That's cool! When I create playlists for producers I always check Tidal and ASCAP, sometimes you can find leaked demos too by looking at ASCAP
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on March 24, 2021, 05:13:39 PM
thank you for DR LUKE 98-03!
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on March 24, 2021, 07:38:05 PM
(Anyone interested in the playlists, search in spotify 'Dr Luke <year you desire>'. I have a playlist for his output categorised per year. In my account you can find the same categorisation of playlists for max martin and oscar holter).

I'll definitely check that out! Thank you man!
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on May 15, 2021, 10:54:59 PM
new song by luke
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nznexus on May 19, 2021, 05:45:13 AM
well dr lukes twitter looks abandanoned
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on May 19, 2021, 12:09:21 PM
Yeah, he doesn't communicate with fans any more. He let other people do that for all the right reasons. He also has instagram and an abandoned facebook.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on May 19, 2021, 09:04:06 PM
well dr lukes twitter looks abandanoned

Understandably
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 01, 2021, 07:25:08 AM
New Luke co-produced

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on June 05, 2021, 03:33:17 PM
For the Dr Luke fans... enjoy 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVrC0CRPLgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMHP3vkirkI

Luke is credited on this 2021 song but I dont know exactly in what way he is involved with this song
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on June 05, 2021, 06:56:36 PM
It's a cover from the song sober by joy oladokun, which still doesn't sound much like luke
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on June 05, 2021, 08:47:11 PM
Oh I see. Joy Oladokun is signed to prescription songs.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 10, 2021, 11:34:53 PM
Brand new Luke production for Doja Cat. Full production credit.

It's a jam


Written by
Amala Zandile Dlamini
Lukasz Gottwald

Produced by
Dr Luke
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 12, 2021, 04:51:32 AM
Love the 808s. Perfectly mixed.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Dagge on June 13, 2021, 01:43:20 PM
I apologize to Luke fans here, and while having respect for the man I honestly don't see any special value in his songs or productions. To me subjectively production is somehow, well..boring and melodies are a bit childish. It may be only me but productions by Max and exCheirponers sound much lusher, more developed and melodies are more elaborated. I have a feeling that he doesn't do his best while producing. Or simply I am not into that kind of production.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 14, 2021, 03:49:24 AM
I apologize to Luke fans here, and while having respect for the man I honestly don't see any special value in his songs or productions. To me subjectively production is somehow, well..boring and melodies are a bit childish. It may be only me but productions by Max and exCheirponers sound much lusher, more developed and melodies are more elaborated. I have a feeling that he doesn't do his best while producing. Or simply I am not into that kind of production.

I definitely think he pares down his production for R&B/hip-hop records. It's a lot more simple compared to his pop stuff; for example, the first songs he produced for Kim Petras. Super pop-leaning, lush, explosive last choruses. He doesn't bring that same level of layering and sonic narrative to rap songs for whatever reason. Like the stuff he's done with newcomer Lourdiz.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 14, 2021, 06:30:40 AM
Well, I think Luke comes from a different background. But he tries.

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on June 25, 2021, 08:50:03 AM

Produced by Dr Luke

Written by Doja Cat, the Weeknd, Dr Luke
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: j.fco.morales on June 25, 2021, 07:17:27 PM
I expected poppier stuff. I love the vocal production, the layering and the harmonies.

Need to know is more a vibe than a song, I think. And the video is cool.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: bugmenot on July 12, 2021, 01:00:55 PM
Sebastian is his middle name.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nznexus on August 22, 2021, 08:41:35 PM
why is doctor luke not active much more on his twitter account?

Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on August 22, 2021, 09:34:36 PM
Why should he? He has people hired to communicate on behalf of his label. All the communication he did before is basically the same as he has delegated now to employees of Prescription Songs.
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nznexus on August 22, 2021, 10:37:25 PM
allright.. by the way he followed me once in 2012 on twitter and next day unfollowed.. damn it was great tho
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on August 23, 2021, 12:00:02 AM
Hahah
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on October 15, 2021, 05:53:41 PM

Co-produced by Vaughn Oliver


Co-produced by Ryan OG, B HAM and Mike Crook
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: Snipes3000 on October 16, 2021, 12:30:05 AM
WHy are these songs in the dr luke comeback topic?
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: nanofives on October 16, 2021, 03:13:47 PM
I forgot to add that these are from Luke as well, my bad
Title: Re: Dr. luke Comeback
Post by: melodicmoonlight on October 16, 2021, 08:51:28 PM

Co-produced by Vaughn Oliver


Co-produced by Ryan OG, B HAM and Mike Crook

Big Energy is great. I love that euphoric melody in the post chorus. Has Luke’s vocal production all over it. So pleasing