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Both Cheiron related, so may be interesting!

Most definetly BSB, but... isn't this the Off Topic NON-Cheiron category?!

You are right, I moved it.  :wink:

bsb!!!

Their song are more catchy... ( catchier? sorry My english is bad..lol ) than the Westlife.!!

I love bsb

and i really don't like westlife...

I think its because they are irish and i'm irish...i dunno

I voted BSB on this one.
Westlife sing way too many cover songs
I am seeing Westlife in concert next Tuesday, with Anthony Callea supporting - I'm really looking forward to it. I just hope Westlife don't sing all their Love Song covers.

yep thats another thing I dislike about Westlife... the cover songs

I voted for Westlife, I have almost all the CDs at home and have been a fan, though the covering put me off.

They get worse with every album and the Swing album was just hideous.

I'd appreciate if they come back with a album with just originals (at least 50 % Swedish songs) but I doubt it.

Quote from: "Rebecca"I voted BSB on this one.
Westlife sing way too many cover songs
I am seeing Westlife in concert next Tuesday, with Anthony Callea supporting - I'm really looking forward to it. I just hope Westlife don't sing all their Love Song covers.

Great combination, Rebecca, I would love to see the two too!
You have to tell us if you liked it! Cheiron songs live performed! YAY!  :)

I have seen them twice i think. But didn't bother with the last 2 or 3 shows they did here. As far as the cheiron stuff live. It always bugs me, i saw BSB, Westlife, and Britney live, and although the bands are always great (BSB and Britney pretty much share the same live band), the band is always too small to do real justice to cheiron productions. It does really annoy me, because you see all these dancers leaping around and al of this huge expensive stage set, and it always leaves me thinking "if you had a percussionist, one more keyboard player and one more guitarist the music would be awesome".
I like Westlife, but i think they have really lost their way. I guess thats the way they want to go!
I would love a whole new album ideally by BSB of all maratone and a-side stuff. That would be great!!!

I agree with you malcolm.
On the #1 DVD of Westlife I disliked the arrangments of the songs, especially of the Swedish songs. They changed chords which destroyed the feeling for me.

But concerning bands at live concerts. I think strings are essential. Delta Goodrem had er live-string section at her tour and they made the sound really exciting. As the Westlife songs are always recorded with real orchestra it's annoying if they wouldn't have a few string players to perform them.

Malcolm is having trouble posting, so he emailed his response to me:

I haven't listened to Delta much, my sister has her
first album, but from what i remember there is a lot
of strings in there, and they are real orchestral
instruments. I remember her album having a real live
band sound to it. And i believe whole heartedly that
if that is the way it is produced, then damn it thats
what i want to see and hear when i pay good money for
it live!!!!!!
I guess we are in a minority here. And most fans are
interested in the show. Personally i would prefer
britney or bsb or anyone sat on a stool in the middle
of the stage under regular lighting with a good strong
fully loaded band behind them performing music. It
bugs me that so much is put into the show side of
things, but i guess like i saw, that is what the
majority are interested in.
It seems that tours these days are like musicals. Too
much costume and fooling around. I guess that is the
music fan in me getting annoyed!!!!

Malcolm, Part 2:

I was in Vegas over the summer and i saw pink at
mandalay bay, im not a big pink fan, but i went there
and really enjoyed it. It was part of the annual
summer concerts at the beach thing that mandalaybay
do. They have a tiny stage next to the fake beach out
back from the hotel. Her band was great, 2 keyboards,
bass, drums and i think also seperate percussion, 2
guitars and 2 backing singers also. THere wasn't any
room left for anything on the stage! It was a basic
light show, but what a great evening. Then 3 months
ago i saw her at the arena here in newcastle, and it
was absolutely awful, bad sound, bad everything. It
was like it just wasn't about the music at all!!
I saw last year also Kelly clarkson at the arena, her
show was music based but i thought her band let her
down a little. They seemed totally disinterested, and
it came across in their sound and performance
generally.

Malcolm Part 3:

I've seen a lot of different bands over the years,
varying styles of music, and the two best band i have
seen by far, i mean no bands i have ever seen have
come close to the abilities of these bands are..... in
no particular order.... 1, Brian Wilsons band.   2.
Shania Twains band.
The last time i saw shania was at newcastle arena, i
got to meet cory churko (her spanish
violinist/percussionist). Id seen a couple of her
shows live previously and studied dvds and stuff. I
was very intrigued as to how much of the band was
live, so i asked him "how much of the show is taped
and synched through on the click track?". He said "
absolutley none of it, every last note you  hear apart
from the sound effects as the band take the stage is
live". I said to him"look me in the eye and tell me
that"! He did. We had a rerlatively short but
interesting conversation about various aspects of
music and performance. But he left me convinced that
it is all live. I told him no matter how hard i try i
have never picked up on any mistake. He told me they
make mistakes nearly everynite, but they are so small
not even all of the band notice them, he said "believe
me, if you listen hard enough you will catch a mistake
or 2 tonite".

I'm having a bit of trouble posting the last part of Malcolm's post, will try again very soon. sorry malcolm!

Malcolm Part 4:
I haven't seen the westlife #1's dvd. But the last
time i saw them, the band did that too, missed a lot
of important little chords out, restructured stuff, and sometimes even

Malcolm Part 5:
and sometimes even the sound

Malcolm Part 6:
almost like the sound on the record is acoustic guitar, and the live sound on stage is distortion guitar.
Kinda like what bsb did to shape of my heart on the last tour, that was a bit disappointing.
Pub time for me!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for posting Malcoms post, I am sorry to hear he can't post.
Can you please ask what kind of error messages appears?
For me the forum works fine, that's strange.

Sorry guys for having to do so many posts there, was having trouble, kept on saying no post specified, i'll try to edit it and correct it very soon.

Quote from: "turnaround"Thanks for posting Malcoms post, I am sorry to hear he can't post.
Can you please ask what kind of error messages appears?
For me the forum works fine, that's strange.

He says he can't log on at all, says he tried to register again and it wouldn't let him. So he wanted me to tell that to everyone, that's why he hasn't posted for 5 days. I'll find out more info.

So I went to the Westlife/Anthony Callea concert last night and it was fantastic. First time Westlife have done a concert in Australia.
Anthony has an amazing voice, he sang Rain, some slow songs and his new song Addicted to Love.

Then Westife: They sang my favourite songs: When You're Looking Like That, How Will I Know, My Love, World of Our Own and Amazing (!!! yay) plus a selection of Love Song songs and other hits.

The standout for me was when they did a tribute to Boybands, I don't know if they've done this in other concerts, so funny. They said (recorded message) they looked up to other boybands and wanted to be like them like NKOTB, Boyzone, Take That and Backstreet Boys (crowd screamed very loudly!) then they sang BSB's Everybody Backstreet's Back and did the classic BSB dance routine for this, which was totally  excellent, then KNOTB Right Stuff, a Boyzone and Take That song and their dance routines. It was unreal.

The bad thing was it was too short at 1 hr 20 mins (BSB was 2 hrs) and they had too many costume changes and there was no screens (venue's fault).

The band was small about 4 guys, i thought the sound was great but i'm not a musician so i wouldn't know if it was bad anyway! Westlife have excellent voices (I thought all live). Overall I loved this concert!!

Wow, sounds amazing!
So long ago already when I have been (World of our own tour).
I saw a tracklist of it on a Westlife news  site, and they have chosen an interesting mixture, especially the BoyBand Medley, and obviously it was as fantastic as expected.
Really a bit short though.  :cry: , but lovely you got to see Anthony too, and so you have heared and seen performed a few Swedish songs live.   :)
Even Max Martin >> When you're looking like that.  :D, so that must have been a very special moment for you again!

Thanks for the review!!

Yes, i really loved hearing the Swedish songs!

But getting back to what Malcolm was saying re the 'show' versus just hearing the music (this may be off the topic, but anyway), I must say I do love the show part: the dancing etc. Though there must be a balance and a lot depends on the venue. If it's a small intimate venue I love just the singer to sing, no special effects but when it's a big venue and the sound isn't that fantastic, I like to see dancers etc. Of course it depends a lot on the artist as well. I loved seeing Backstreet Boys do their classic dance routines but I loved it when they just sat on the stairs and just sang. Then I loved it when I saw Kelly Clarkson and it was just her singing and a basic band and she sounded fantastic. Actually I could just go on and on about this topic!
What does everyone else prefer: the 'show' or just the music?

Interesting question!
I think it's the healthy mixture.
I remember on being at some concerts where there were songs with FULL PLAYBACK. Due to the heavy choreography/show etc, and I think it's not acceptable.
If I want to listen to the CD version I can put my CD in.

But of course it is nice when you have certain effects or dance routines but I tend to say I prefer the full band/live vocals way.

I was also at the Kelly Clarkson concert and it was really a bit rough maybe from the sound but she has lots of energy and that really came accross.

Delta's concert (I have it on DVD) was as I said with a full band including string players but she also had some gimmicks and costume changings and lots of fun in general.

:D