You actually do. All mentioned producers were artists, adding their own artistic taste. That's why they lasted for a limited time period. When style changed they went out of fashion.

Max is different school. They analyse what is commercially appealable, try to mimic that while adding their own talent. This obviously works well for over two decades it maybe doesn't seem very artistic but they obviously love that approach, like so many other Swedish businesses. I think both approaches are valid.

I don't think it was because they are flavor of production went out of style it's because around 1991 is where they introduced soundscan which was a big catalyst for how we listen to music nowadays cuz before you used to be that billboard would call up the record shops and radio stations and tell them what was hot but now it's all about accurate sales and trying to cash in on what is the hottest trend. That resulted in shorter songs louder mixing less focus on instrumentation more focus on vocals and becoming more of a single market rather than an album market.

I think Max Martin would be nowhere it sounds scared never got implemented but would have probably gotten attention to his rock band and probably never becoming the producer he is now.

Denniz PoP was the best. He was literally incredible. Look at the work he did and how he evolved. I believe that if Denniz was around in 2000, the Cheiron legacy would have continued with a new sound that would compete with Neptunes and all those who were dominating the charts back then. He was never afraid to change the style and always had this intuition for what was hot. He was simply one of those guys who built himself to last in pop music, just like Max learned to do at a later phase. Denniz Pop was a chameleon, adjusting his colours to his surroundings.

At the same time Denniz understood the power of teamwork, using Lundin's great ear for production and Max's ear for melody and harmony. Those members were really good at what they did, but Denniz was the master who knew it all, similar to what Max is now for MXM music.

Why was Rami brought in and was it Denniz that adviced Max to go for an 'urban' guy?
What was special about Andreas Carlsson back then, what was he specifically used for in the studio, what was his expertise?

If we consider Max the best allround Cheiron composer, arranger, producer, what would look like the list of others based on their mucic capacity and shown talent. I would subjectively put Lundin and Rami Yacoub immediately below Max

You got that right all I'm doing is speaking the truth.

You actually do. All mentioned producers were artists, adding their own artistic taste. That's why they lasted for a limited time period. When style changed they went out of fashion.

Max is different school. They analyse what is commercially appealable, try to mimic that while adding their own talent. This obviously works well for over two decades it maybe doesn't seem very artistic but they obviously love that approach, like so many other Swedish businesses. I think both approaches are valid.

So what's with Max lately producing whole albums instead of just a few individual one like on past releases? Is he trying to proof to the world that he's out for blood & trying to becoming the best producer of the 21st century. Just remember he's one away from tying John Lennon (26 #1s) and seven away from tying Paul McCartney (32 #1s)?

While Max is the melody king, I don't think he is a production king. He is obviously very good but I subjectively think Lundin and Savan Koetcha among other are better, with better feel for rhythm and the rich arrangement