I decided to open a whole thread to our beloved band and discuss everything here, the single and the album!
Here is the single cover:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/22al3d.jpg)
don't we already have a topic for Bigger? we can use that for the new single and album, but this will be easier to track, thanx.
BTW I like the single cover, things looking good so far.
yeah, we do have some other threads, but it is a bit all over the place, so yeah, this will be easier to track.
I just listened to Straight Through My Heart, I love it!
I love the single cover. I'm excited now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMHUW0J7wnk
Thanks, I love the snippets. Is this official? Will Colour My World really be on their album? you might already know that BSB recorded it during the time of Never Gone and Westlife released it on their Face to Face album. Anyway, I'm surprised they would go back to an old song.
They sound great with this style. My fave besides "Bigger" is "Masquerade" -- harmonies very addicting on that. Also love the vocal harmonies on "She's A Dream".
Album will only include 11 songs, 5 of them have already leaked, what a shame!
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NEW YORK, July 28 /PRNewswire/ -- Backstreet Boys are very proud to announce the release of their new album, This Is Us. Set for an October 6(th) release on Jive Records, This Is Us is the seventh studio album from this groundbreaking and chart topping group that redefined the modern musical landscape, ushering in a chapter of pop culture that commandeered the world's radio airwaves, broke music and concert sales records, and launched a new generation of teen idols. Nick Carter, Howie Dorough, Brian Littrell and AJ McLean collaborated with a powerhouse suite of producers and songwriters on This Is Us that included T-Pain, Max Martin, RedOne, Soulshock and Karlin, Jim Jonsin and Claude Kelly. The end result is an indelible and finely crafted R&B and pop album from four talented musicians who love what they do and who maintain the rare relevance in an industry that often disposes of pop acts.
The 11 songs that make up This Is Us are the sounds of four skilled singers with a similar vision, who have dealt with the trials and tribulations that accompany fame at an early age and who came out as one of the most successful groups of all time. From the undeniable dance floor ready lead single, "Straight Through My Heart" (click on link to stream) to the reflective soar of "Bigger," from the hook crazy "Bye Bye Love" to the romantic yearning of "She's A Dream," This Is Us shows remarkable growth as songwriters and continues to give us songs that has made millions smile.
"We're really excited to release this new album and know that our fans are excited too. We worked with a group of amazing artists and producers that we've never worked with before, exploring new sounds and territory and know the final product turned out incredible," says Carter.
Backstreet Boys plan on spending the second half of 2009 and all of 2010 on the road. A European tour has already been announced and a full North American headlining tour will be announced shortly. Tour dates can be found on the group's official website www.backstreetboys.com.
Over the last 12 years, the Backstreet Boys have sold more than 76 million albums worldwide, have scored a dozen Top 40 hits and charted in the Top Ten in nearly every country making them one of the most successful groups of all time
oh, only 11 songs, but I bet they'll be cd's with bonus tracks. Yeah, pity 5 have already been released. It's really nice to read a positive article about BSB.
Staight Through My Heart is freaking amazing, I hope it'll be a hit, it really has potential, hope people will give them a chance! The rest of the album is ok, except for Bigger which is great.
Interview with AJ from DigitalSpy
Digital Spy wanted to know more about the Backstreet Boys new record and single. So they decided to called AJ Mclean from the group to talk more about the album, producer Red One, single, new and old dance moves, and touring. Check out the interview below thanks to Digital Spy for it.
How would you describe 'Straight Through The Heart', the new single?
"I'd use two words - Backstreet Boys. Obviously we've worked with a current producer so it's got an updated sound, but the one thing that we were very adamant about, after hearing feedback from fans, was that we wanted to go back to being us. There was a formula that worked for us and this is exactly that."
How did you come to work with RedOne, who's obviously Lady GaGa's producer?
"Well, it was really down to me and Nick because we're friends with a couple of guys who work with RedOne. I kept bringing up GaGa because I have a crush on her, so Nick called the guys we know and finally we got through to Red. Then it sort of fell apart and didn't happen and we lost hope. Then, just when we thought we were done making the record, we got a phone call from our management saying Red had three amazing songs for us. We did them and we got our first single!"
Did you have another lead single lined up beforehand then?
"We had a few options before we worked with Red, but then we heard 'Straight Through The Heart' and knew it was meant to be. It hits the nail on the head. It's Backstreet Boys. It's dance, it's pop, it's urban, it's current, it's fresh, it's new. We actually had a good problem, which was having five or six options for the single. We made this record hit for hit and we honestly believe it's our best since Millennium."
You've worked with Max Martin, your Millennium producer, on the album. Was that a conscious decision to try to recreate your classic sound?
"We met with him while we were touring the last record just to see if he was even interested. Obviously he's busy with Pink and Kelly Clarkson and people like that. He sent us a track called 'Bigger' and we loved it - it's like the new 'I Want It That Way'. He's one of the reasons why we've had the hits that we've had."
Would you say 'Straight Through My Heart' is reflective of the rest of the album?
"It was actually the icing on the cake. We went into this album wanting to do pop and R&B, which is what we're known for, but we really pushed to have more uptempo songs so we could bring them to the live shows. My favourite song on the record is called 'PDA', which we did with Kevin Borg, who's the Black Eyed Peas' musical director. It's pretty awesome - definitely a club record. Before we got with RedOne, it was looking like the first single, so for all we know it could be the second!"
Some tracks from the album leaked earlier this year. How did you deal with that?
"At first we were P.O.ed because we were trying our hardest to keep this record a secret, but it was actually a good thing in the end. It was interesting because we got to see which songs were more popular than others. The ones we thought were better weren't necessarily the ones the fans liked - it was a 50/50 thing, which is good."
This is your second album without Kevin. Was it any easier as a four-piece this time around?
"Definitely easier. It's been almost four years now. What was a little bit nervewracking is that this record is exactly what Kevin wanted us to do before he left. He heard some of the songs when we were demoing stuff and he loved it. We're still contracted for one more record, so hopefully - maybe - he'll be back for the last one. That would be pretty awesome! Since he left, we've told him the door is always open. He's family."
You're touring later this year - what can we expect from the show?
"We want a true Backstreet Boys show with lots of cool little gags - not over-the-top, just a well-performed show. We'll be doing a couple of really old songs like 'Get Down' and 'We Got It Going On', but they're going to be remixed which will be pretty cool."
Do you still remember the old dance moves?
"We do, but we're getting a brand new choreographer so we're going to start from scratch. It's about time we got rid of the hat routine from 'All I Have To Give'! We might do the signature 'Backstreet's Back' move for the fans though, but for most of the songs it's all going to be new. We'll be in dance rehearsals for six weeks which will make for an amazing show!"
Speaking of the old routines, what do you think when you look back at some of your earliest videos?
"Oh dear God! Some of them we can live without! Not the video, but the wardrobe, which only really made sense in that time and era. Hands down the worst of the worst was 'Quit Playing Games'. We were in the rain with fluorescent shirts showing our pecs and stuff. It was like 'OK? Really? Seriously?!'"
Their single "Straight Through My Heart" produced by Red One will release to radios on September 29th. While their new album This Is Us is set to be released on October 5th.[/i]
Thanks for this interview, very interesting! 3 Redone songs are great but I'm hoping for more than 1 Max song.
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 01, 2009, 07:53:52 PM
Staight Through My Heart is freaking amazing, I hope it'll be a hit, it really has potential, hope people will give them a chance! The rest of the album is ok, except for Bigger which is great.
totally agree!
Fingers crossed that people give them a chance
they really deserve it.
i'd love nothing better than to see them sail to the top once again.
Thanks Linda, I loved that interview. Great there's 3 Redone songs, I have a feeling it will just be the one Max song, but it's okay cos it's a good one. I really hope they do well too. Their upcoming concerts sound great - new dance routines! though I loved the old classic ones too.
First Performance of the song Backstreet Boys - Straight Through My Heart (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJYI_plLLM4)
Thanks, I can't wait for other performances!
Wow, I would have expected much less dance. They still have a very boysbandish dance routine....and I'm not sure I like it.
oh, it's so good to see BSB again. yeah, it is a bit of a boyband-y dance routine and they have had better dance routines than that, but I think when you're at the concert and have the whole concert atmosphere, it will be awesome.
I love this new song '' all in my head'' : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcqA99zDn4I
I think it can be of a cheiron guy , what do you think ?
cool, it's a great song. Yeah, it could definitely be a Cheiron guy!
here the video : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaagyi_backstreet-boys-straight-through-my_music
it didnt impress to me much.
it will be the cover of this is us : (http://www.noticiasbsb.com/wp-content/uploads/portada_this_is_us.jpg)
and the tracklist of the album :
1. Straight Through My Heart
2. Bigger
3. Bye Bye Love
4. All Of Your Life (You Need Love)
5. If I Knew Then
6. This Is Us
7. PDA
8. Masquerade
9. She's A Dream
10. Shattered
11. Undone
omg!!! one amazing song leaked !!! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdvOa524UWA
I think it is of redone , the song is superamazing.
this song is even better than STMH!
all the songs leaked less PDA , and the kristian-Rami song????
worst bsb video ever!
why did they have to inculde the chorography?
:-X
And who said that this is the tracklist???
It's so sad but there isn't any rami's song on the new bsb album
This is the message rami sent to me:
"pls I really dont answer work questions on facebooks its strictly for friends....but 3 great ones but which none they wanted for " this " album...politics and thats why I havent worked with them for a long time...this is how it turns out...be safe"
Quote from: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on August 28, 2009, 12:35:05 PM
And who said that this is the tracklist???
it appears in the back cover..
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 28, 2009, 12:47:25 PM
It's so sad but there isn't any rami's song on the new bsb album
This is the message rami sent to me:
"pls I really dont answer work questions on facebooks its strictly for friends....but 3 great ones but which none they wanted for " this " album...politics and thats why I havent worked with them for a long time...this is how it turns out...be safe"
this is really sad , what a deception , I cant believe it.
I hope it be include as bonus track
Quote from: Raul_esp on August 28, 2009, 01:48:26 AMand the tracklist of the album :
1. Straight Through My Heart
2. Bigger
3. Bye Bye Love
4. All Of Your Life (You Need Love)
5. If I Knew Then
6. This Is Us
7. PDA
8. Masquerade
9. She's A Dream
10. Shattered
11. Undone
Oh, no, I can't believe this is the official tracklist... some tracks could not be better than a kristian/rami songs!
This is really sad, is it the record company or the guys themself that dosent want the Rami/Lundin/Falk songs? and i bought ticket to the concert in stockholm, i am really mad about this it was just this 3 songs and Bigger i wanted to hear.. =( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: Raul_esp on August 28, 2009, 01:50:43 AM
omg!!! one amazing song leaked !!! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdvOa524UWA
I think it is of redone , the song is superamazing.
this song is even better than STMH!
AMAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZING :o :o :o. This is definitely a RedOne track, I knew it cause he copied and pasted a tune he used before I heard in this song!
I love that song All Of Your Life (You Need Love)!!
I like the new video, though maybe a bit cheesy to include the dancing, but after I got used to that I liked it.
I'm devastated that Rami's and Kristian's songs did not make the album! I bet this is a record company decision, they probably wanted more "trendy" producers like T-Pain or whoever, ridiculous! I'm hoping for some bonus tracks.
are you kidding me?
bye bye backstreet.
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on August 28, 2009, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on August 28, 2009, 01:50:43 AM
omg!!! one amazing song leaked !!! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdvOa524UWA
I think it is of redone , the song is superamazing.
this song is even better than STMH!
AMAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZING :o :o :o. This is definitely a RedOne track, I knew it cause he copied and pasted a tune he used before I heard in this song!
yeah , this is for me the best redone track ever and the best BSB uptempo since black and blue.
I cant stop listen it.
i posted messages that i got back from Carl Falk and Rami a few times last week...Rami said the songs were like the old backstreet except a bit more updated but it was because of politics...im thinking because Max is on the album either that or something to do with what Max made Andreas Carlsson and Kristian Lundin sign years back sometype of contract saying how they couldn't work with either BSB or something like that and thats why i believe the swedes stay away from them...Herbie Chirchlow told me this story
Quote from: Khan9898 on August 29, 2009, 02:34:19 AM
i posted messages that i got back from Carl Falk and Rami a few times last week...Rami said the songs were like the old backstreet except a bit more updated but it was because of politics...im thinking because Max is on the album either that or something to do with what Max made Andreas Carlsson and Kristian Lundin sign years back sometype of contract saying how they couldn't work with either BSB or something like that and thats why i believe the swedes stay away from them...Herbie Chirchlow told me this story
is it true? that's crazy
wow, that is crazy!
Quote from: Rebecca on August 29, 2009, 12:09:37 AM
I love that song All Of Your Life (You Need Love)!!
I like the new video, though maybe a bit cheesy to include the dancing, but after I got used to that I liked it.
I'm devastated that Rami's and Kristian's songs did not make the album! I bet this is a record company decision, they probably wanted more "trendy" producers like T-Pain or whoever, ridiculous! I'm hoping for some bonus tracks.
As I heard there will be bonus tracks, so don't lose hope!
yeah this is a Max Martin site but...he's a dick for that he also took alot of credit on Black and Blue for Herbie's work and he told Jive not to let any of his songs get on Black and Blue...he supposedly had better songs than The Call and stuff
I agree with you Reb saying that the label wanted more trendy producers... Anyways, Jive has already proved many times with their choices for Britney that they are completely retarded. I'm also devastated Max and Kristian songs won't make it, it was just too good I guess...
This new Redone song is nice but nothing wonderful, I still think the only good songs are STMH and of course Bigger.
I'm scared this album will be weak, even if I haven't heard it, I don't wanna be prejudiced, but except for 3 songs, I don't like the other producers! Like Linda, I'm quite pessimistic about their future...
Quote from: Khan9898 on August 29, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
yeah this is a Max Martin site but...he's a dick for that he also took alot of credit on Black and Blue for Herbie's work and he told Jive not to let any of his songs get on Black and Blue...he supposedly had better songs than The Call and stuff
u can't say that, we don't really know the truth
Quote from: Khan9898 on August 29, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
yeah this is a Max Martin site but...he's a dick for that he also took alot of credit on Black and Blue for Herbie's work and he told Jive not to let any of his songs get on Black and Blue...he supposedly had better songs than The Call and stuff
yea i heard about that.
didn't herbie bring max to court over this?
Quote from: Khan9898 on August 29, 2009, 06:59:34 PM
yeah this is a Max Martin site but...he's a dick for that he also took alot of credit on Black and Blue for Herbie's work and he told Jive not to let any of his songs get on Black and Blue...he supposedly had better songs than The Call and stuff
Where did you hear that? ???
Be careful not to spread rumors...
there must be something about all this, the songs that rami,kristian and carl falk did must be great songs for bsb dont forget that kristian produced most of the old hits for bsb, so why dosen´t the record company like them?? has it something to do with max martin? old stuffs? And why dosen´t Aj solo album realesed yet? many songs from kristian ...
i think all this is weird.. and i hoope one day all "we" the cheiron fans get some answer about this..
I can't imagine that there would be anything stopping Kristian, or Rami or Carl Falk recording with BSB, if there was, they surely wouldn't have even bothered to go into the studio with BSB. Whatever happened in the old days, surely that's over. I'm blaming the record company and I suppose perhaps BSB themselves, if they didn't push hard enough to get the songs on the album.
Sabine, exactly, the record company made retarded choices for Britney, no surprises they would do the same for BSB.
I'm excited BSB are coming out with a new album, but I'm a bit worried too that I won't like it.
Guys I'm really worried about this new album, everything is leaking, literally, it's just really bad, all of the songs are on YouTube. Straight Through My Heart isn't doing well on US iTunes, I'm afarid they won't sell with this album either!
Someone who has a BSB fan website wrote:
Quotewe still get Kristian Lundin work on the CD. Cause my friend has the CD booklet and she said he's listed under Masquerade for vocal production. So he probably fixed up their vocals or something like that I have no clue.
basically Max told Jive if you let Herbie's songs on the Black and Blue album he wouldn't have gave Its True, The Call, Shape of My Heart, and Get Another Boyfriend....yeah everything on the album has leaked except PDA but people have it and soon the whole album would have leaked ...
if people want message Rami and Carl Falk on MYSPACE and ask them if the songs can ever be heard and remember only on myspace
I would totally love it if the krisian/rami tracks "accidently" leaked.
I really wanna hear old backstreet again =[
the new album is a bit bad, too much rnb
not the real BSB...
Quote from: Khan9898 on August 30, 2009, 07:35:23 PM
basically Max told Jive if you let Herbie's songs on the Black and Blue album he wouldn't have gave Its True, The Call, Shape of My Heart, and Get Another Boyfriend....
yeah, even so, I doubt Max would bother about trying to prevent any ex-Cheiron songwriters working with BSB now, considering he didn't even want to work with them on Unbreakable.
but oh dear this is not good news that the album is bad. I'm going to try not to listen to any leaks.
BSB Were today in spain of promotion !! this was crazy , so much expectation everywhere and a lot of fans , tomorrow they will be in a tv show.
Cool Raul! Did you see them live or just on TV?
What qongs did they perform?
Quote from: *Sabine* on September 12, 2009, 09:07:36 AM
Cool Raul! Did you see them live or just on TV?
What qongs did they perform?
unfortunately I saw it just on tv , but it was great , they perform ''straight through my heart'' , and ''I want it that way'' and ''everybody'' sounded too in the show.
That sounds great Raul, I'm sure it was a great performance. I'm glad they're doing some promotion, I've barely seen them.
I don't really care if there are some boring R&B songs on the album. We can just listen to the good ones, and we know at least Straight Through My Heart, Bigger and All of Your Life are great pop songs. I like all three of them better than anything from the last album, so for that reason I'm content no matter what the rest of the new album sounds like.
well i think anything can be better than that last album - lol
but anyway - i've got a good feeling about this.
Every song i've heard so far sounds pretty amazing and new.
if you go to Carl Falk's myspace theres a song called Fire and Water...the guys recorded that song but its a demo at his website
Figured You Out is a song by Kristian, Carl, and Rami recorded by BSB and it has The Call type vibe to it
Quote from: Khan9898 on September 29, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
if you go to Carl Falk's myspace theres a song called Fire and Water...the guys recorded that song but its a demo at his website
Figured You Out is a song by Kristian, Carl, and Rami recorded by BSB and it has The Call type vibe to it
woww where did you hear it ?
well i know there was a song called Fire and Water and some people have it and i asked them and the said it was the same song as the one on Carl's myspace...and i heard a clip of Figured You Out on my phone and it def was catchy and the call type thing and i messaged Carl and he said it was correct that they did a song called that with bsb
(STMH)debuted at # 22 in Germany, and is doing really good in Sweden as well.
i am pretty sure that it must be Fire and Water on Carl Falks myspace, This is what i mean fire and water together with bigger is the perfect bsb songs, really pop songs that they need, i dont understand why i make it to the album....
I asked to the guys in a chat the cause the kristian-rami songs arent in the album , I hope they reply me! and I asked the second single be bigger.
Quote from: Khan9898 on September 29, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
if you go to Carl Falk's myspace theres a song called Fire and Water...the guys recorded that song but its a demo at his website
Figured You Out is a song by Kristian, Carl, and Rami recorded by BSB and it has The Call type vibe to it
I like or love a lot of this album, but I'd also LOVE to hear the boys' version of "Fire & Water." I bet their version (even if it's just because of their voices) sounds even more pop.
I just heard Carl Falk's Fire and Water. BSB singing this would have been perfect.
I really liked If I Knew Then (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgZo1E6Zse4) from the new album, the song is really catchy. Masquerade is cool as well.
The album is very R'n'B!
I love Bye Bye Love, the end of the chorus is just wow...
the rest of the album isnt that impressive except for Bigger,Straight Through My Heart and All of Your Life
I've been listening to the album all day and I really like almost all of it. After Bigger, I think my favourite is PDA, I love Bye Bye Love, All Of Your Life and Masquerade.
Interesting to see the credits for Bigger, who is Tiffany Amber?
tiffany amber worked in ''3'' too.
The actress tiffany Amber Thissen????
This is from Howies twitter
howie_d We are taping the video for our next single "Bigger" here in Tokyo. This is where I did my solo shot. Congrats Rio!! http://pic.gd/e162b2
about 11 hours ago from UberTwitter
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
confirmed!! second single bigger.
Quote from: Alex Martin on October 03, 2009, 04:37:46 PM
The actress tiffany Amber Thissen????
yeah, when I did a search that's what I found too, could it be? and on 3 too, wow.
I'm so happy Bigger is the 2nd single! This is the best news!
Is this Carl Falk's MySpace? http://www.myspace.com/carlfalk The song doesn't seem to be there now, does anyone know where I could hear it?
Also, I don't think Tiffany Amber is very likely to be Tiffani Thiessen. She hasn't done anything to do with music before, her name is spelt with an i at the end, and she is 35 now so if she was musical enough to be writing hit songs I'd expect her to have done something music-related before now. Also she is no longer known as Tiffani Amber Thiessen, just Tiffani Thiessen these days.
Quote from: Poptasticuk on October 04, 2009, 03:34:35 PM
Is this Carl Falk's MySpace? http://www.myspace.com/carlfalk The song doesn't seem to be there now, does anyone know where I could hear it?
no , this is : http://www.myspace.com/carlfalkmusic
i have listen to fire and water for about 15 times now, maybe its the best pop song 2009... =) love it
Quote from: Poptasticuk on October 04, 2009, 03:34:35 PM
Is this Carl Falk's MySpace? http://www.myspace.com/carlfalk The song doesn't seem to be there now, does anyone know where I could hear it?
Also, I don't think Tiffany Amber is very likely to be Tiffani Thiessen. She hasn't done anything to do with music before, her name is spelt with an i at the end, and she is 35 now so if she was musical enough to be writing hit songs I'd expect her to have done something music-related before now. Also she is no longer known as Tiffani Amber Thiessen, just Tiffani Thiessen these days.
yeah, can't be the actress. It's very annoying that this girl has such a similar name, it's so hard to search, oh well.
Quote from: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on October 04, 2009, 07:11:02 PM
i have listen to fire and water for about 15 times now, maybe its the best pop song 2009... =) love it
yes , it's great , someone can take out the song of myspace??
Brian From BSB has been diagnosed with Swine Flu here's a video of him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SHDHuNsuNU
I Read in a site that Twin worked too in the album for the boys .
I hope Brian gets fine early!
Bigger Live on Jimmykimmel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_0-O22oP8U)
Kristian Lundin made additional vocal production on Masquerade!
I saw it on the official booklet ;)
Quote from: andrea on October 10, 2009, 08:45:13 PM
Kristian Lundin made additional vocal production on Masquerade!
I saw it on the official booklet ;)
:) But i hate Jive for not realeasing the Lundin/falk/rami songs
Quote from: Unexpected on October 10, 2009, 07:26:51 PM
Bigger Live on Jimmykimmel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_0-O22oP8U)
fantastic, thanks.
Bigger - Cover!
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6582/biggert.jpg)
really nice cover.
I like it too!! Thanks for the picture!
BSB said on their cruise their recording in January and today we found out their going to the U.K to promote some NKOTBSB stuff. Does anyone know if Rami/Carl worked with artists in England like Nicole, One Direction, and Taio Cruz?
They worked with all of the mentioned artists. One Direction are already about to record the second album and Rami/Carl Falk are on board again apparently.
:-\ I know this is a bit off topic, but, I must say that although Bigger has a great melody, I feel it could have been better, the instrumental was way too rock for me. The vocals were really beautiful however. :-[ Now, I am not in any way trying to knock Max Martin or any of the producers. I'm only expressing my humble opinion.
BSB will be starting to record for the new album soon...andddd Rami and Carl will be moving back to L.A within the next couple of months. ;)
Quote from: Khan9898 on January 02, 2012, 08:56:58 PM
BSB will be starting to record for the new album soon...andddd Rami and Carl will be moving back to L.A within the next couple of months. ;)
:P :P
New thread please!! Wow!! :)