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Title: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on December 04, 2013, 12:45:50 PM
I have no idea what this is all about -  maybe it's just a sample -  but I found these credits for the MKTO song "Forever Until Tomorrow"

QuoteEmanuel Kiriakou, E. Kidd Bogart, Max Martin, Rami Yacoub, Carl Falk, Savan Kotecha & Malcolm David Kelley   

https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/forever-until-tomorrow/id743071281?i=743071290


(http://a4.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Features4/v4/a5/e7/23/a5e7237c-9b0f-0859-00a3-ee48389cacb1/dj.jmhjswti.170x170-75.jpg)


Anyone knows more about it? It's an US band apparently!

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5770375/mkto-preps-for-us-push-talks-debut-album

QuoteSongs like the buoyant pop track "Forever Until Tomorrow"
Read more at http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5770375/mkto-preps-for-us-push-talks-debut-album#TYe0BOUo6eiFhFE7.99



If this is a new track this would be sensational since Max and Rami obviously went separate ways!

Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: turnaround on December 04, 2013, 12:50:24 PM
But wait - Rami, Max, Carl, Savan haven't yet worked together on a track, have they? So it MUST be a new track!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Feelgoodlies on December 04, 2013, 02:17:59 PM
Their "Thank You" was a popular single this year, this is how I recognised them. And I think they're an American band.

I can't wait for this track indeed since it reunites the amazing Max and Rami!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Raul_esp on December 05, 2013, 01:26:36 AM
Woww , Amazingg , I can't wait for hear this!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Rebecca on December 05, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
wow, this is very exciting! I really hope it's a new song and not just a sample.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: turnaround on December 12, 2013, 10:49:05 PM
Khan, do you know anything about this?
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Jules on January 14, 2014, 06:24:07 PM
Is this a digital-only album release??  :-\
The CD isn't listed anywhere (or at least I couldn't find it?!).
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: turnaround on January 14, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
At least in Australia you can buy it. (ships also to Germany)

http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2260030/MKTO_ONLINE_COMP

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/pop-rock/mkto-online-comp/696640
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Khan9898 on January 14, 2014, 07:06:10 PM
I'm going to assume that Malcom, Emanuel, and Evan wrote the song originally and the label liked it but didn't love it so they sent it to either Rami or Max who redid some of the lyrics and production with Carl and Savan.

I doubt the song was originally written by all of these writers and producers for one song. Similar to what happened for Starships and Don't Hold Your Breathe.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Jules on January 14, 2014, 07:49:44 PM
Quote from: turnaround on January 14, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
At least in Australia you can buy it. (ships also to Germany)

http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2260030/MKTO_ONLINE_COMP

sanity.com.au - CD costs $14.99, shipping to Germany is $15.00 - maybe they should rename their business to "INsanity". lol


I'll have to wait & see if this really is an original song and not just a sample of an old Max/Rami song..
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: turnaround on January 14, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
What is your guess? I gave up searching for snippets.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Jules on January 14, 2014, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: turnaround on January 14, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
What is your guess? I gave up searching for snippets.

Honestly I have no idea. But my gut feeling tends to the option that it's just a sample. Probably it just wants to save me from the huge disappointment after I hyped myself to a new Max/Rami song and then found out it's just a sample!  :P
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: turnaround on January 27, 2014, 01:43:49 PM
Low-Quality stream of "Forever Until Tomorrow"

Sounds like a new song to me - so NO SAMPLE - REAL SONGWRITING CREDITS :D

Max and Rami are reunited.  8) 8)

http://mkto-represent.tumblr.com/post/74446685619/preview-a-minute-and-a-bit-of-forever-until


BTW: I think this could be a 1D reject. Very catchy chorus.

I still want to know if they were in the same room when this song was written. Or Savan just consulted both Max and Rami to get some hooks.

Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Raul_esp on January 27, 2014, 02:48:32 PM
It sounds good , let's see in HQ.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX, RAMI)
Post by: Khan9898 on January 27, 2014, 04:11:32 PM
Quote from: turnaround on January 27, 2014, 01:43:49 PM
Low-Quality stream of "Forever Until Tomorrow"

Sounds like a new song to me - so NO SAMPLE - REAL SONGWRITING CREDITS :D

Max and Rami are reunited.  8) 8)

http://mkto-represent.tumblr.com/post/74446685619/preview-a-minute-and-a-bit-of-forever-until


BTW: I think this could be a 1D reject. Very catchy chorus.

I still want to know if they were in the same room when this song was written. Or Savan just consulted both Max and Rami to get some hooks.

Seems like it
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on January 27, 2014, 04:46:26 PM
Same room? Or Savan speaking with them seperately?
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Jules on January 28, 2014, 01:30:25 AM
Quote from: Jules on January 14, 2014, 06:24:07 PM
Is this a digital-only album release??  :-\
The CD isn't listed anywhere (or at least I couldn't find it?!).

CD available at WOWHD for 12 Euros / 17 US dollars (free shipping worldwide):

Germany: http://www.wowhd.de/CD/mkto-mkto/dp/36520733 (http://www.wowhd.de/CD/mkto-mkto/dp/36520733)
US: http://www.wowhd.us/CD/mkto-mkto/dp/36520733 (http://www.wowhd.us/CD/mkto-mkto/dp/36520733)
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on January 29, 2014, 04:02:05 PM
They have released "Forever Until Tomorrow" on iTunes :D

https://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/mkto/id743071281

1:30 and I'm already loving it. Super catchy pop tune.  8) 8)


I haven't bought at wowHD since a long time now. Too many unpleasant experiences.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on January 30, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
Lucky Australians - here you go

https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/mkto/id743071281
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: ShockdioN on January 30, 2014, 10:06:14 PM
is this the real credits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKTO_(album)

Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: RuHa on January 30, 2014, 11:09:07 PM
Quote from: ShockdioN on January 30, 2014, 10:06:14 PM
is this the real credits?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKTO_(album)

Doubt it..  ::)
But here is the song info from ascap

Work ID: 886106204 ISWC: T9132054876

FOREVER UNTIL TOMORROW

Writers
BOGART EVAN KIDD
FALK CARL ANTHONY
KIRIAKOU EMANUEL
KOTECHA SAVAN HARISH
SANDBERG MARTIN KARL
YACOUB RAMI

Performers
MKTO
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Raul_esp on January 31, 2014, 12:08:12 AM
Studio version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vegnprp2sys

Great pop song!

I love the Break of the final!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: ShockdioN on February 02, 2014, 04:44:21 PM
Their album leaked..
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: uberweiss on February 04, 2014, 08:43:20 AM
Love it! Sounds like quite standard Falk/Kotecha/Yacoub One Direction fodder until the complete shift at 2:50! Sooooooo beautiful, and makes the song Max Martin-"worthy".
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on February 04, 2014, 08:49:00 AM
Welcome uberweiss!! :)
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: uberweiss on February 05, 2014, 02:43:28 AM
Hey, thanks!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Rebecca on February 08, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
pretty good song! I really like it! I bought the cd. It's produced by Rami and Carl Falk. Co-produced by Emanual Kiriakou.

I agree, that it might have originally been for One Direction.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on February 08, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Cool :D

So Max had no involvment in the production at all? It must be weird for Rami to produce a song co-written by Max, who he probably hasn't even met during the writing process.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: j.fco.morales on February 08, 2014, 05:38:19 PM
I liked the album, sounds a lot like good 1D rejects.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Jules on February 08, 2014, 11:19:08 PM
Quote from: turnaround on February 08, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
So Max had no involvment in the production at all? It must be weird for Rami to produce a song co-written by Max, who he probably hasn't even met during the writing process.

Lol, why are you so obsessed about the rumour that Rami left Maratone in a fight with Max and that they can't stand each other nowadays?  ???

Max & Rami are still very good friends up until today - and this collab is the best proof.  ;)
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on February 09, 2014, 12:29:07 AM
How do you know? I just want to know what happened.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Rebecca on February 09, 2014, 06:22:56 AM
I want to know too (what happened with Max and Rami) and also how they came together for this song. Unless this is a really old song that Max started to write with Rami.

Max is nowhere on the production credits. It is also co-produced by Andrew Goldstein. Rami did bass, programming, background vocals. Carl Falk did Guitars and Programming.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Jules on February 09, 2014, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: turnaround on February 09, 2014, 12:29:07 AM
How do you know? I just want to know what happened.

I don't know. I assume, because never has there been a single word of a fight between them. Rami said in several interviews that he left Maratone because he needed a break from music and needed to figure out what directions to go next. You can't just assume there was a fight only because it would make the whole story sound more dramatic. lol

People can "break up" their work relationship and still be friends you know. Also, when I was at Kinglet Carl told me how they hang out and spend time at each others studios all the time. Also I don't think Shellback & Kinglet would be working together so much if there was a bad atmosphere.
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on March 03, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
My copy arrived :D
Background vocals by Rami. I must listen more carefully!
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: Jules on March 03, 2014, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: turnaround on March 03, 2014, 09:02:41 PM
My copy arrived :D
Background vocals by Rami. I must listen more carefully!

Mine too, today. Funny!  ;D
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: uberweiss on April 03, 2014, 01:09:01 AM
Solid album. Big pop melodies and comfort food production, as I'd expect from Goldstein/Kiriakou/Bogart/Robbins. "Wasted" is gorgeous, and obviously "Classic" is infectious as hell. "God Only Knows" also has a very sweet melody. The sentiments in "Thank You" and especially "American Dream" (beautiful chorus on that one) are kind of interesting and unexpected as well!

Don't think it's quite as good as last year's Goldstein/Kiriakou album: "Louder" by R5. That is definitely being slept on here! So many incredible melodies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdoGGIMCsbM "If I Can't Be With You"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSLsLKRn7A "Ain't No Way We're Goin' Home"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSLsLKRn7A "Falling For You"
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: turnaround on April 09, 2014, 08:02:37 PM
Anyone has a US Spotify account and can play the track by track commentary:

http://smarturl.it/MKTOSpotifyTrack

I'm interested if they say anything about Max or the songwriting of "Forever Until Tomorrow".

Thanks :)
Title: Re: MKTO - Forever Until Tomorrow (MAX MARTIN, RAMI - comeback of a dream team)
Post by: uberweiss on April 11, 2014, 09:39:47 AM
Quote from: turnaround on April 09, 2014, 08:02:37 PM
Anyone has a US Spotify account and can play the track by track commentary:

http://smarturl.it/MKTOSpotifyTrack

I'm interested if they say anything about Max or the songwriting of "Forever Until Tomorrow".

Thanks :)

They call Max a "legend in the game". Max had a song he wanted to throw their way, which he told Emanuel Kiriakou about. The song Max sent didn't have a rap.