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Title: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 11, 2009, 03:18:19 PM
Hi all, this is my new song, I think this one is probably the most 'Max Martin' I've written yet.  :D

This is a rough mix, I have a few small tweaks still to make;

Sex Drug
http://www.scottcairns.com/tracks/Sex_Drug.mp3

Hope you like it,

Scott.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Raul_esp on May 11, 2009, 04:47:49 PM
Woww , this was great , the production is very good , I love the verses  it is very max , in some parts the production remind to me to I kissed a girl.


Great work Scott!
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Linda on May 11, 2009, 10:11:39 PM
Hey Scott
your song is awesome, lovin the lyrics & i put it on my ipod =D
well done !
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 12, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
Hi Raul and Linda, Im glad you liked the song, thank you very much!

Regards,

Scott.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 12, 2009, 09:02:59 PM
It's very good yes, very I Kissed a Girl inspired! Congratulations!! Very strong song, I've already played it 3 times...
Please post the final version when it's done.
To improve it, you should make the drums sounds FATTER!  ;D
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Rebecca on May 14, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
wow, well done Scott! it's very good.
Yes, there's definitely an I Kissed A Girl sound to it.
Definitely post the final version when it's finished.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 14, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
Hi Sabine and Rebecca, thanks for the kind words. The song is a bit 'I Kissed A Girl' inspired, I was really trying to write a song that sat between that and 'Cuz I Can' -Pink, even Christine Aguilera's Superbitch. - That bouncing kind of drum beat thats so popular - 'So What' - also has that kind of beat.

As for a final version -well I hope you hear that when a famous singer takes up the song  ;)  ;D

Im writing and recording these songs in my home studio, my wife did the backup vocals, I paid a girl to sing lead.

The songs are just demo's to send to artists and to try and get them interested enough to sing them.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 14, 2009, 02:24:13 PM
My apologies, i realised I just said it was a rough mix in the original post.

I did make some small adjustments, and Im working on fattening up the drums (thanks Sabine  ;) )

But its probably only 5% different, nothing drastic.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Feelgoodlies on May 14, 2009, 05:19:24 PM
I just heard the song, and I can say it is really nice Scott. Well done, but if you excuse me I have something to say about the production, well the music sounds like those "karaoke" music files we sing a long with, in other words, it doesn't sound very professional I mean like an original copy, I hope you understood me, it is great for you as a starter!

Always share with us please!
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 14, 2009, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on May 14, 2009, 05:19:24 PM
I just heard the song, and I can say it is really nice Scott. Well done, but if you excuse me I have something to say about the production, well the music sounds like those "karaoke" music files we sing a long with, in other words, it doesn't sound very professional I mean like an original copy, I hope you understood me, it is great for you as a starter!

Always share with us please!

I actually had the same feeling. But don't get me wrong, your song is still great. I don't know anything about production (unfortunately  :-\ ) but I think you need to work on the sound of the instruments now, like making them unique and original.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 15, 2009, 03:02:15 AM
Hi Guys, please bear in mind these are demo's only. Im sure Max's and Lukes demos are rough too.  ;)  :D

The problem is that we're all so used to hearing album quality production. That process involves a lot of professional people at the top of their game.  From the musicians, to the engineer recording them, to the guy that then mixes the song and then finally to the mastering facility. Not to mention also, Max's recording console is worth about the same as my house!!  ;D

Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 15, 2009, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: Scott Martin :) on May 15, 2009, 03:02:15 AM
Hi Guys, please bear in mind these are demo's only. Im sure Max's and Lukes demos are rough too.  ;)  :D

The problem is that we're all so used to hearing album quality production. That process involves a lot of professional people at the top of their game.  From the musicians, to the engineer recording them, to the guy that then mixes the song and then finally to the mastering facility. Not to mention also, Max's recording console is worth about the same as my house!!  ;D

Yes, I'm aware of that. All the process of song recording is huge when you think about it!
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 16, 2009, 10:13:34 AM
Ive updated the mix, the timing of the vocals is a lot better.

Ive also fattened up the drums (thanks Sabine, great suggestion!)  ;)

http://www.scottcairns.com/tracks/Sex_Drug.mp3
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 16, 2009, 11:55:46 AM
Thanks!!!
The drums are better now. Now if I can suggest smth else, I would also lower just a little bit the volume of the main voice. I noticed how loud is the instumental in the Cheiron tracks. You could also add some keyboard following the melody of the voice in the chorus. I think it feels great and once again most Cheiron tracks have it (the most famous being the "bells").
But gosh I love your song more and more. With all the tiny arrangements it can be really awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 17, 2009, 03:33:12 AM
Thanks Sabine! Are you a musician or songwriter? You gave great instincts.

The vocals are a little too loud, but Ive actually read that demo tracks should usually have the vocals like this so that the person considering the song can really hear the lyrics and vocal melody. (This is in a songwriting book by Jason Blume who has written for BSB, Britney and other artists.)

I like your idea of using a synth to follow the vocals in the chorus, I'll think about that. The production for this song is more like 'So What' than the earlier Cheiron stuff though. Cant remember if 'So What' used that technique..?

I really appreciate everyone's comments.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 17, 2009, 01:34:23 PM
Oh yes you're right. I downloaded some demos too (Britney, Alsu, Veronicas...) and also realized the vocals were a bit louder.
The melody line in the chorus was just a suggestion, if you don't think it suits the song and want the song to follow another direction it's fine. Indeed, So What doesn't use it, and neither does I Kissed A Girl.
And no, I'm not a professional but I do love music. I love singing and playing the piano and I'm learning guitar.. But I guess the thing that helped me the most is years of listening to the Cheiron songs, I love comparing the songs, noticing the small details and so on.  ;)
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on May 18, 2009, 03:56:50 AM
Well you got good ears and great instincts Sabine. Stick with it.

Cheers,

Scott.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on May 18, 2009, 09:50:32 AM
Thank you :)
I bet Alex will agree with you, don't you l'Italiano?  :P
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on June 01, 2009, 01:14:54 PM
Hi everyone, well I have some exciting news about Sex Drug..

A publisher rang me today and wants permission to 'shop the song around' - he feels he knows some artists that might want it. (didnt say who just yet)

Its a non-exclusive agreement in that if I get the song placed with someone, he'll stop pitching it.

If he gets the song placed, we'll then negotiate a one-song publishing deal.

Ill keep you posted!  ;D

Scott.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Raul_esp on June 01, 2009, 01:41:34 PM
Quote from: Scott Martin :) on June 01, 2009, 01:14:54 PM
Hi everyone, well I have some exciting news about Sex Drug..

A publisher rang me today and wants permission to 'shop the song around' - he feels he knows some artists that might want it. (didnt say who just yet)

Its a non-exclusive agreement in that if I get the song placed with someone, he'll stop pitching it.

If he gets the song placed, we'll then negotiate a one-song publishing deal.

Ill keep you posted!  ;D

Scott.

wowww , Great news! , a hit is coming...
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: sforzando on June 01, 2009, 03:00:37 PM
Great news !! Congratulations, Scott!!
This song should be released as a single actually, I like it loads  :D
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Scott Martin :) on June 02, 2009, 09:49:51 AM
Thanks Guys!  ;)
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: Rebecca on June 02, 2009, 12:42:09 PM
wow, congratulations Scott!

hey, maybe someone like Ricky-Lee Coulter will sing it?!
keep us posted.
Title: Re: New song - Sex Drug
Post by: *Sabine* on June 03, 2009, 03:01:44 PM
Really really exciting!
I'm very happy for you, that song deserves a good artist now!
Keep us updated...  ;D