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Title: Yet another No1....
Post by: WeMyselfandWhy on September 04, 2013, 11:28:35 PM
http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/chart-alert/5680134/katy-perry-dethrones-robin-thicke-atop-hot-100
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: Raul_esp on September 05, 2013, 01:02:03 AM
AMAZING!! , She did it without video , CONGRATULATIONS KATY , MAX AND LUKE! , 16th no1 For Max!
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: Joshua on September 05, 2013, 12:25:30 PM
I'm still a bit confused as to how "Blurred Lines" managed to stay on top in it's, what, tenth week?... against a single that had enormous first week sales. Maybe it was all down to airplay and YouTube views.
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: Rebecca on September 05, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Congratulations! amazing news, but not surprising. 16 no.1's for Max is incredible

Josh, I agree, I don't know how Blurred Lines stayed on top for so long. It must be the youtube views - that video!
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: turnaround on September 05, 2013, 04:38:24 PM
Congrats. Genius Max.

Here is an Swedish article about Max and all his #1s with songwriters.

http://www.stim.se/sv/PRESS/Nyheter/Max-Martin-far-sin-fjortonde-USA-etta
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: gm33 on September 06, 2013, 03:28:02 AM
So, "last friday night" and "one more night" are missing from that article above, but are listed on http://www.maxmartinfansite.com/ as a Max #1 - so does he have 14 or 16? Which is correct?
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: max_martin_fan on September 07, 2013, 04:53:22 AM
Quote from: Rebecca on September 05, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
Congratulations! amazing news, but not surprising. 16 no.1's for Max is incredible

Josh, I agree, I don't know how Blurred Lines stayed on top for so long. It must be the youtube views - that video!

Yup, im pretty sure it has something to do with those youtube views. Billboard's positioning algorithm got changed since the Harlem Shake thing to include youtube views. It's fair I think, Blurred Lines is a great song.
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: rebekahELLE on September 07, 2013, 03:49:46 PM
I was happy to see this particular song dethrone Blurred Lines!  Congrats on another Hot 100 #1.  It's Perry's 8th #1 song.  I update my MMartin article weekly with the Hot 100 rankings and gave it a tweet and within seconds it was chosen as a top tweet.  ROAR sends a metaphorical message in a fun way.  I wasn't crazy about it at first, but now I love singing along with it when it comes on.
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: Joshua on September 07, 2013, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: gm33 on September 06, 2013, 03:28:02 AM
So, "last friday night" and "one more night" are missing from that article above, but are listed on http://www.maxmartinfansite.com/ as a Max #1 - so does he have 14 or 16? Which is correct?

Those two most definitely topped Billboard! :)
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: soundoffhear on September 16, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
I would like to see Max lobby to push the envelope of modern song structure away from the linear verse, chorus, bridge situation and start to create some hybrid structures that hang together but make the listener keep going back to it to keep track of their favorite part. He has the stature in the industry to break out and do that! Others will follow.

Roar is better than most songs on the radio right now, but this structure is becoming a little plain vanilla now, with just sonic and production embellishments added in to not fatigue the ear.

As far as chart position, very little of that is steered by requests, even with the new internet charting factored in. Unfortunately a lot of chart position still comes down to how much money is spent by the record labels to push different radio markets to play the song during peak 'drive time'. If a song is #1 it usually has to do to with that song being played consecutively over a span of several weeks during peak drive time in every major city in America. That still takes money muscle, not so-much listener interest.
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: j.fco.morales on September 17, 2013, 02:15:11 AM
Quote from: soundoffhear on September 16, 2013, 03:44:39 AM
I would like to see Max lobby to push the envelope of modern song structure away from the linear verse, chorus, bridge situation and start to create some hybrid structures that hang together but make the listener keep going back to it to keep track of their favorite part. He has the stature in the industry to break out and do that! Others will follow.

Roar is better than most songs on the radio right now, but this structure is becoming a little plain vanilla now, with just sonic and production embellishments added in to not fatigue the ear.

As far as chart position, very little of that is steered by requests, even with the new internet charting factored in. Unfortunately a lot of chart position still comes down to how much money is spent by the record labels to push different radio markets to play the song during peak 'drive time'. If a song is #1 it usually has to do to with that song being played consecutively over a span of several weeks during peak drive time in every major city in America. That still takes money muscle, not so-much listener interest.

Do you really think that different structures in songs will work on Top 40 radio? I don't think so... maybe other kind of melodies, but Max especially is like the king at melody making... in other genres other structures work pretty well, but not on Top 40 radio.
Title: Re: Yet another No1....
Post by: georg_e on September 17, 2013, 03:04:00 AM
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    New structures will work on Top 40 radio.....eventually. Some of 'em already are. It's in the nature of popular music to change structure......what we think of as normal now, people in the 1930's/40's and 50's would've seen as if it was from Mars.....it's already changing.....it's headed into a more "collage" like way of making a song....and then THAT will seem normal........