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Title: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 19, 2008, 08:56:38 AM
Dr. Luke has written for Vanessa Hudgens album.
And apparently there is at least a song co-written by Max.

Sadly I haven't found any official confirmation, but I hope the credits are out soon!

Out on 24th of June!

Must be one of these songs:

     "Identified"
     "Don't Ask Why"
     "First Bad Habit"
    "Amazed"
     "Set It Off"
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Alex Martin on June 19, 2008, 11:08:32 AM
I hate Vanessa Hudgens and I hate Max when He works with people that I HAAAAAAAAAAAATEEEEEEEEEE ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 19, 2008, 12:27:17 PM
Any information appreciated.  ;D

I really wonder which style it will be, I wasn't that fond of the first album to be honest.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on June 19, 2008, 01:35:58 PM
I actually had no idea she was a singer and already had an album

"Identified" is co-written by Max

IDENTIFIED     (Title Code: 392875157)  Writers:
   DENNIS CATHERINE ROSEANNE
   GOTTWALD LUKASZ
   SANDBERG MARTIN KARL

Do you think she's singing that one?
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 19, 2008, 01:49:08 PM
Oh definitely.
Well done Reb!

Great, again Max, Cathy and Luke.


Check the snippet here:

http://www.amazon.com/Identified-Vanessa-Anne-Hudgens/dp/B0017V8PKI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1_s9_rk?ie=UTF8&s=music&s9r=8a5850a419a995750119c8fc27410332&itemPosition=1&qid=1213876190&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on June 19, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
i hate when max writes with luke.....but the song identified is good.

it is good that he changed from the rock style.

please max write with rami please.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Markus1981 on June 20, 2008, 01:47:33 AM
I quite like Vanessa and actually think this album sounds pretty great. Identified sounds quite good although it doesn't really have that Max sound to it, I'll be interested to hear the full version.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on June 20, 2008, 02:21:55 AM
I love identified.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on June 20, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
Identified sounds good.

It will be interesting to see if Max also produced it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Out on June 20, 2008, 05:57:38 PM
The song is ok, but I'm not impressed again :( She sounds like Barbie.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Alex Martin on June 20, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
I don't like IDENTIFIED.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 20, 2008, 11:11:00 PM
Me neither to be honest.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 24, 2008, 11:54:43 AM
For those of you from the US, here's the full listening on aol.

http://music.aol.com/songs/new_releases_full_cds
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on June 24, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
it's clear identified is a max martin song

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=amm8SKI0Fmg

the verses are really good
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Tiiger on June 24, 2008, 02:09:47 PM
Max goes electro!  :D
I really like it. It's modern. It's a grower, most of all.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Markus1981 on June 24, 2008, 02:49:35 PM
I'm loving Identified now! Still don't think it sounds that much like a Max track tbh, it doesn't have as a big a chorus as Max usually does. I'm loving the camera sounds on it though and it's nice to see Max branching out with a new sound.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on June 24, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
Quote from: Markus1981 on June 24, 2008, 02:49:35 PM
I'm loving Identified now! Still don't think it sounds that much like a Max track tbh, it doesn't have as a big a chorus as Max usually does. I'm loving the camera sounds on it though and it's nice to see Max branching out with a new sound.

you have reason , the chorus isnt max martin , the chorus is very luke ( it is semble to nothing in this world)
and the verses and the sound are more of max martin. :)
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on June 24, 2008, 07:37:37 PM
yeah it's great to see max going electro

i think this song could be sung by britney i feel it has some britney in it, i wish her stupid label jive hear the song and knows that max would have given her better electro in stead of the trashy electro the other producers did on blackout.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Alex Martin on June 24, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
For mr it's a normal song. Not a Good song and obviously not a masterpiece.

Max sorry but Bloodshy&Avant are better than you to do this type of music. :'(
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on June 24, 2008, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on June 24, 2008, 10:30:29 PM

Max sorry but Bloodshy&Avant are better than you to do this type of music. :'(

agree with you...... songs like ''toxic'' and ''do somethin'' are better but songs like they did on blackout are not.

Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on June 25, 2008, 01:04:01 PM
yeah, agreed, Bloodshy & Avant do this sound better. It does not really sound like a Max Martin track to me either..
I quite like this song though but to compare his recent tracks I prefer Cyndi Lauper's "Into The Nightlife".
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on June 25, 2008, 04:37:53 PM
Oh I loved "Identified", really nice track, I also liked "First Bad Habit", I guess her whole album is OK.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on June 26, 2008, 03:01:18 PM
Oh I got the HQ of the song "Set It Off" and really liked it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: turnaround on June 26, 2008, 11:57:01 PM
Apparently "Set it off", the bonus track is by Max too. (Lukasz Gottwald, Kias Ahlund,and Max Martin)
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on June 27, 2008, 02:42:00 AM
Quote from: turnaround on June 26, 2008, 11:57:01 PM
Apparently "Set it off", the bonus track is by Max too. (Lukasz Gottwald, Kias Ahlund,and Max Martin)

great news , other great max martin song!
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Out on June 29, 2008, 08:47:05 PM
I like "Identified" more, but I think it could sound much better with other voice. Maybe it would be better to give it to Britney.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on July 02, 2008, 07:52:53 PM
Now I really love Identified more than Set It Off, the verses of both "Set It Off" and "First Bad Habit" are so great, but to me there is something wrong about the choruses.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on July 04, 2008, 11:09:36 PM
1 "Last Night" S. Nymoen, S. Jacoby    Scott Jacoby    3:09
2 "Identified" L. Gottwald, C. Dennis, M. Martin    Dr. Luke    3:20
3 "First Bad Habit"    L. Gottwald, C. Dennis    Dr. Luke    3:02
4 "Hook It Up" Featuring Rock Mafia    A. Armato, T. James, D. Karaoglu    Antonina Armato & Tim James    2:52
5 "Don't Ask Why"    L. Gottwald, C. Dennis, B. Dozier    Dr. Luke    3:10
6 "Sneakernight"    S. Nymoen, J. Rotem    J.R. Rotem    2:59
7 "Amazed" Featuring Lil Mama    L. Gottwald, C. Dennis, B. Levin, N. Kirkland    Dr. Luke    2:59
8 "Don't Leave"    A. Armato, T. James, J. McCartney    Antonina Armato & Tim James    3:08
9 "Paper Cut"    J. Vieira    Johnny Vieira    2:48
10"Party on the Moon"    C. Rojas, Nasri, A. Messinger    Chris Rojas    3:50
11"Did It Ever Cross Your Mind"    J. Vieira    Johnny Vieira    3:10
12"Gone with the Wind"    K. DioGuardi, E. Kiriakou, Z. Bey, M. Youseff, W. Afanasieff, B. Howard    Emanuel Kiriakou    3:28
13"Set It Off" (Bonus Track in Japan)    -    -    3:04
14"Vulnerable" Featuring Windy Wagner (Bonus Track in Japan)    -    -    3:12
15"Commited" Featuring Rock Mafia (Bonus Track in Japan)    -    -    2:35

Acording to wikipedia , identified is the only max martin song in this album and Dr luke is involved in identified , first had habit , don't ask why , amazed.

In the three last tracks I dont have information
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on July 05, 2008, 12:38:58 AM
Thanks Raul for the songwriting credits. Annoying we don't have information about the last few songs.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Out on July 06, 2008, 09:18:38 PM
Just listened whole album. I don't believe Max and Luke worked on it :( I found it totally boring, the only tracks I wanted to listen again - Identified and Paper Cut. Other tracks are Blackout-copy and nothing special at all.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on July 06, 2008, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: Out on July 06, 2008, 09:18:38 PM
Just listened whole album. I don't believe Max and Luke worked on it :( I found it totally boring, the only tracks I wanted to listen again - Identified and Paper Cut. Other tracks are Blackout-copy and nothing special at all.

when i listen to max new songs i can't believe he worked on these songs or wrote the lyrics.

but anyway that's the way the world of music goes these days.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Alex Martin on July 07, 2008, 01:08:55 PM
This album is ORRIBLE.

None song decent.

Identified is (maybe) the worst martin's song ever.

Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on July 07, 2008, 02:38:45 PM
confirmed , set it off is other max martin song:

(Lukasz Gottwald, Kias Ahlund,and Max Martin)

it is  a ok song , I dont like the chorus , I love the intro and the verses , it is a version of toxic  ;D
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on July 07, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
Identified and Set It Off are the greatest on the album.


Btw, her album sales are said to be very poor, in order to increase them and help herself, she has to release one of the Dr.Luke,Max tracks, I suggest "Identified".


@AHMED"
Ahmed I know that guy in your avatar, isn't he the Egyptian composer "Amro Mostafa", his songs are very Max inspired, I like too many of them.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on July 07, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on July 07, 2008, 04:15:22 PM

@AHMED"
Ahmed I know that guy in your avatar, isn't he the Egyptian composer "Amro Mostafa", his songs are very Max inspired, I like too many of them.

yes he is Amr Mostafa...he is a very talented composer and i like many of his songs.

by the way feelgoodlies his second album released and it's amazing you should listen to it.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on July 08, 2008, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: ahmed on July 07, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on July 07, 2008, 04:15:22 PM

@AHMED"
Ahmed I know that guy in your avatar, isn't he the Egyptian composer "Amro Mostafa", his songs are very Max inspired, I like too many of them.

yes he is Amr Mostafa...he is a very talented composer and i like many of his songs.

by the way feelgoodlies his second album released and it's amazing you should listen to it.
OK, I will give it a listen, I guess he doesn't produces anymore for other artists, does he?

sorry guys for bein Off-Topic.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on July 08, 2008, 01:49:58 PM
I just received my copy tonight. I haven't really listened to whole cd yet - not sure if I really want to!

I'm not sure if I like "Set it Off", maybe it will grow on me, I don't know though. "Identified" is better but still not a huge fan of it either.

I'm not surprised her album sales are poor.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: ahmed on July 08, 2008, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on July 08, 2008, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: ahmed on July 07, 2008, 07:00:36 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on July 07, 2008, 04:15:22 PM

@AHMED"
Ahmed I know that guy in your avatar, isn't he the Egyptian composer "Amro Mostafa", his songs are very Max inspired, I like too many of them.

yes he is Amr Mostafa...he is a very talented composer and i like many of his songs.

by the way feelgoodlies his second album released and it's amazing you should listen to it.
OK, I will give it a listen, I guess he doesn't produces anymore for other artists, does he?

sorry guys for bein Off-Topic.


he said in an interview that he will stop producing for the other artists, because he has problems with the artists he worked with....but i'm not sure what will happen.

sorry for being off-topic
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on July 10, 2008, 01:35:27 PM
As I told ya and was actually expected, Vanessa's second album Identified debuted at # 23 with only 22,084 copies sold, that's was very low, and I blame her trashy lead single "sneakernight" for these horrible sales, if she has chosen Max and Luke songs, her album would've sold better IMO.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Unexpected on August 14, 2008, 04:01:43 PM
Max martin son Identified is confirmed to be the 2nd single from the album , I'm not a fan of the song but it's not horrible

download confirmation
http://w14.easy-share.com/1701217846.html
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Raul_esp on August 14, 2008, 05:01:59 PM
great news , the song is ok , but the first single was awful , great choice .
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Feelgoodlies on August 14, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
I love the song, I hope it moves up the album sales a bit, "Sneakernight" was a horrible choice IMO.
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: Rebecca on August 15, 2008, 11:42:39 PM
great news Identified is to be the second single, though it's not Max's best, it's probably Vanessa's best!
Title: Re: Vanessa Hudgens new album - Max with Luke
Post by: *Sabine* on August 20, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Rebecca on August 15, 2008, 11:42:39 PM
great news Identified is to be the second single, though it's not Max's best, it's probably Vanessa's best!

Yes, I find this album really bad too, but I think this song is still Vanessa's best!