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Title: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: growapear on October 17, 2012, 07:33:59 PM
The 2nd Max & Shellback track for the upcoming 'Red' album recently premiered (even if you didn't know it was them, that first guitar chord and funky electric sound is such a giveaway of what Shellback is doing right now!)

I think it's a great song itself and actually love all the crazy melting pot of genres mixed in, but Taylor Swift + (light) Dubstep doesn't really seem right to me... it's a shame that she has kind of succumbed to the club-ready mainstream needs, but it's also understandable. That isn't really meant as a criticism of Max, Shellback or Taylor though!


What does everyone think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY19UekAORQ
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: nznexus on October 17, 2012, 10:35:55 PM
. i love this song :D

.. shes doing pop now
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: turnaround on October 18, 2012, 11:17:49 AM
Great song, and there is another song on the album according to iTunes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(Taylor_Swift_album) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_(Taylor_Swift_album))

22 also by Shellback and Max.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Joshua on October 18, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
I'd seen it on the charts and what not, but never even thought to listen to it... I had no idea it was the other Max/Shellback track! It's not bad at all, a definite grower. I thought maybe "We Are Never..." might have been a one off style wise, but yeah, now it's sounding like she's going to go fully pop.

Looking forward to hearing "22".
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: gm33 on October 18, 2012, 05:10:30 PM
22 is on YouTube and it's awesome!!!!!! I love Taylor!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Raul_esp on October 19, 2012, 12:13:04 AM
Woww ''22'' Is great too , great work Max  you're a genius!!

I love the ohhhh of the second chorus in I knew you were trouble , it's so poppy.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Alex Martin on October 19, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
What can i say? ANother great song...the genius is a legend!!!!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Joshua on October 19, 2012, 02:11:30 PM
Oooh, "22" is my favourite out of the three Max tracks, love it! Sounds like it could have featured on Carly Rae's album though haha.

By the way, has anyone heard the country mix of "We Are Never..."? It's all over YouTube too.



Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Babs on October 21, 2012, 03:02:56 PM
Found an article from Time.com, where Taylor Swift also talks about I Knew You Were Trouble: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/10/19/taylor-swift-on-going-pop-ignoring-the-gossip-and-the-best-worst-nickname-shes-ever-had/#ixzz29r0Wq0To

"I actually came up with the melody on piano, and brought it to [producers] Max Martin and Shellback and said, I want to finish this, and I want to make it sound as chaotic as that emotion felt. I'll sing the base line. I just want it to sound like this: poom poom poom poom poom. And they're like, maybe we can infuse a little bit of dubstep. It's one of the most adventurous songs on the record, soundwise. I love it. I'm so proud that it's sitting at number one on iTunes."

Also, Bilboard Magazine's latest print issue features interview with Taylor Swift, which I think should be interesting as it is titled: "How she assembled her hit squad to make her most ambitious album yet." Probably more about Max and Shellback in this issue :-)

Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: gm33 on October 25, 2012, 02:26:06 PM
Here's screen shots of all the album credits!
http://www.taylorpictures.net/thumbnails.php?album=1887&page=1
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Rebecca on October 27, 2012, 11:49:15 AM
wow, I love I Knew You Were Trouble and 22, just awesome!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: turnaround on November 22, 2012, 08:20:17 PM
LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6k67xoGL8


10/10 for me
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Raul_esp on November 23, 2012, 06:18:50 PM
Quote from: turnaround on November 22, 2012, 08:20:17 PM
LIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F6k67xoGL8


10/10 for me

What a great song and what a great performance!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Alex Martin on December 14, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
VIDEO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwL2GkVX_U
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Raul_esp on December 14, 2012, 01:42:49 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on December 14, 2012, 01:24:48 PM
VIDEO


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCwL2GkVX_U

Great video , I hope it gets the 1# en USA.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Rebecca on December 14, 2012, 09:59:09 PM
great video, I love the song. Yes, this should be No.1!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Joshua on December 17, 2012, 08:08:50 AM
I really like this video a lot, such a great vibe. I'm glad they finally decided to make this a proper release. Though it's already been charting well as a radio single all over the place. Hopefully this can give it the final push it needs.

The full length official version is up now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoKguSdy4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNoKguSdy4Y)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Axel on December 17, 2012, 08:43:44 AM
This is a song I completely adore. When I first heard the first verse, I thought "mehhh", but when the chorus kicked in, I was sold. And then the melody stuck to my head for the rest of the day. Whoa. Even though I think that it's a departure from Swift's style, it's more daring without a doubt but it also makes her more replaceable.

However, the song itself is magical. I'm pretty sure it will chart big.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: B Steady on January 24, 2013, 01:28:24 AM
it's clearly my favorite on "red", even one of my max martin/shellback favorites ever - absolutely amazing song!!!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: gm33 on January 25, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
I Knew You Were Trouble now #1 on the Billboard Pop Charts!

I think it might be my favorite Max track, ever...
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: nznexus on January 27, 2013, 12:34:04 PM
thats amazing, max martin knows how to write an extremely catchy song...

hmmm..
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Joshua on January 27, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
I'm starting to wonder if there's something wrong with me. I just don't love this track all that much. I seem to be the only one. I feel the same way about "Beauty And A Beat", and seem to be alone there too. Not that I hate them at all, I just don't love them like most of Max's work.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: B Steady on January 27, 2013, 03:49:49 PM
It just takes some time until you love the "new"
Max :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: turnaround on February 22, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
Brit Award

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/172585/The-BRIT-Awards-2013-Taylor-Swift-I-Knew-You-Were-Trouble


Britney also had different sometimes very different backing tracks when she performed the songs live. This tradition is now back. Who has produced this remix? Or was this done by Max and Shellback particular for live shows!

Almost Cheiron-esque.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Rebecca on February 23, 2013, 10:24:50 PM
Taylor's performance is fantastic! I agree, the remix is very Cheiron-esque! very Britney!

I would love to know who produced the remix for live shows, do you think Max and Shellback would spend the time?
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: turnaround on February 24, 2013, 02:29:58 AM
If only we knew. I guess it was specially done for the Brits and the producer of the song didn't have lots of time.

Or does she has a house producer who can do this? :D

I want this remix on CD. :D  Cheiron-tastic.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: A.R.T. on February 24, 2013, 10:18:28 AM
I don't like the remix, awful ! And the performances of IKYWT or WANEGBT too much similar everytime. Not "my style".
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Raul_esp on February 24, 2013, 11:53:51 PM
Woww , the remix is amazing , Pure Cheiron!
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: B Steady on February 25, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
sorry but where the f*ck do you guys here cheiron in this remix???????
after reading your comments I was really looking forward to the remix and now that I've seen the video I'm a bit disappointed ... :(
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: turnaround on February 26, 2013, 11:58:43 AM
With Cheiron I mean the way that Britney performed her Cheiron songs back then at award shows. Always a different version with more dance elements.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: B Steady on February 26, 2013, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: turnaround on February 26, 2013, 11:58:43 AM
With Cheiron I mean the way that Britney performed her Cheiron songs back then at award shows. Always a different version with more dance elements.

Ah, I see! :)
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Feelgoodlies on June 14, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
Guys, THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypnrDb100Y) has the same idea of dubstep of IKYWT,  similarity starts in pre-chorus and "Oh Oh Oh" in the chorus and then how he mixed the dubstep with the 2nd chorus.
Title: Re: Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble
Post by: Raul_esp on June 15, 2013, 12:46:31 AM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on June 14, 2013, 01:02:47 PM
Guys, THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ypnrDb100Y) has the same idea of dubstep of IKYWT,  similarity starts in pre-chorus and "Oh Oh Oh" in the chorus and then how he mixed the dubstep with the 2nd chorus.

Yes , the chorus sounds similar!