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Title: Guess the tune
Post by: ar10003 on January 04, 2008, 07:47:15 AM
Been studying some scales and harmonies lately and came across a Mediaeval chord sequence called a Folia. Its a series of chords over which melodies used to be played, a bit like a 12 bar blues scheme today.

Click the play button and see if you recognize which Cherion song used this as its foundation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folia

Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Rebecca on January 04, 2008, 10:01:44 AM
cool, very interesting.

I'm sure it's amazingly obvious to everyone and I should be really embarrassed but I really don't know.

Anyone??
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: malcolm hogg on January 04, 2008, 11:12:49 AM
Gotta be hit me baby one more time..........or bye bye bye............or how will i know............or quite a few more??!!!?
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Prime on January 04, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
should be oops i did it again, altough they used quite often similar chord progressions. especially the Cm to G change occures in several songs
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Alex Martin on January 04, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
MMMMMMMM......Church Music.
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: turnaround on January 04, 2008, 11:50:30 AM
This is fun, but I disappoint, sounds familiar but I don't know it.

Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: ahmed on January 04, 2008, 01:07:35 PM
''Baby one more time'', especially the first of this chord sounds like the verses and bridges.
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 04, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on January 04, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
MMMMMMMM......Church Music.
Yeah..it sounds nothing like cheiron sorry....it's a wedding ceremony tune :)
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: ar10003 on January 04, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
It was the basis for Hit me baby one more time!

Its not as obvious as it could be and its lacking in the drum machine / gospel choir / synths department :) but its all there. And as some of you noted its the basis of many Cherion songs - predominantly a minor key in the verse which gives it that melancholy feeling (like much church music) and jumps to relative major - this is what Cherion did so well was go into this uplifting space by jumping to the relative major. Herers some more deconstruction about Oops (about half way down)

http://blogs.oreilly.com/digitalmedia/2006/03/post.html

Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: ahmed on January 04, 2008, 10:37:24 PM
very nice  :) thanks

it shows the value of  ''Baby one more time''  and  ''Oops i did it again'' and the hard and good work in these songs.
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 04, 2008, 11:09:19 PM
TBH I never thought being a producer is as hard and complicated as this!!

This actually shows how hard they work to come up with a decent "Swedish pop song" and the word Swedish here means only the Swedish producers managed to combine these I don't know what to call (instruments)maybe together and make their own world of POP music which is easily called and known among people as "Swedish Pop".

Max deserves the sucess he had actually and Cheiron crew as well!!
Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: Rebecca on January 05, 2008, 11:04:51 AM
wow, that is a very interesting read! thanks

Title: Re: Guess the tune
Post by: ahmed on January 05, 2008, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on January 04, 2008, 11:09:19 PM
TBH I never thought being a producer is as hard and complicated as this!!

This actually shows how hard they work to come up with a decent "Swedish pop song" and the word Swedish here means only the Swedish producers managed to combine these I don't know what to call (instruments)maybe together and make their own world of POP music which is easily called and known among people as "Swedish Pop".

Max deserves the sucess he had actually and Cheiron crew as well!!

i agree with u, the songs mixed the fast dance beat with good melody and good instrumentals which u can't find anywhere else , i hate when people try to reduce the value of max's pop and say its teen oriented.