Max Martin Stabs/Orchestra Hits

[Tano87]

I heard the "daaoow" synth, too. I also saw A roland D-70

And they happen to be using the famous crown/akg cm311 headworn mic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoU5cOY4U4k Can you tell me which stab was used here?

I think it's the same as Baby One More Time...
But for most of those stabs and hits we have to wait for RolandCloud to upload the digital stuff in VST since you can decide wich effects to layer to re-create the stabs as Cheiron did back in the days...

For example the ManicShots patch is a composition of sounds but in some of Cheiron production u can hear the same patch but with sounds layered with different volumes...

[Snipes3000]

I got the JVs from Roland Clouds and nothing like that is there. The baby one more time stab is also missing. The JV 1080 contain’s just the reversed stab used on Baby One More Time

I suggest searching in EMU EmulatorX vst. Planet phat is full with useful hits, and it is a much better source than the Roland Cloud romplers which indeed seems to only cover a small portion of the layers necessary for the Cheiron stab.

[Tano87]

I suggest searching in EMU EmulatorX vst. Planet phat is full with useful hits, and it is a much better source than the Roland Cloud romplers which indeed seems to only cover a small portion of the layers necessary for the Cheiron stab.

Actually I want the same sounds used by Cheiron not some random sample to emulate

[Snipes3000]

Yeah, since you are aware of the gear list of Cheiron and Maritone, you know that EMU is indispensable in their sound design, among them the planet phatt. I know how much you like to imitate cheiron sounds and obviously there is not a preset that sounds exactly like how it sounds in their songs because they layer and probably hard EQ these hits/stabs. But I really think you should go through the EMU Emulator if you want to use a plugin or else check out the hardware module. EMU made a gold mine in the 90's and that's why they became the real deal.

[Tano87]

Oh I forgot I have Emu Emulator X but it's pretty tricky to use and listen to the whole stuff..

[Snipes3000]

Yes it is. I currently use version 3, 64bit on windows 7 FL STUDIO. If you load the complete bank at once, then you can go to the 'sampler' page and go through the presets there quite effortless.

[cheironlover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk0YQ4Rt6MY

[Tano87]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk0YQ4Rt6MY

The synth at 0:18 is so beautiful and it's used in most of cheiron songs like BSB, Britney...wonder which preset is this..
The piano attack is also amazing...each song has a different mix in fact it sounds always different.

This track is also interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxvDBy6f04

[Snipes3000]

I can hear that its my life "bow" sound is sampled from living on a prayer.

[Tano87]

I can hear that its my life "bow" sound is sampled from living on a prayer.

The bow sound was made by themself in most of their song.
Max must have been excited to have the real sound instead of the sample used thousand of times xD

[Snipes3000]

I guess Rami Yacoub was lying then when he mentioned that he sampled it from that song...

[Tano87]

I guess Rami Yacoub was lying then when he mentioned that he sampled it from that song...

Probably he sampled it but the fact is that Bon Jovi always did that on their own even on "living on a prayer" and if u see their live performances the guitarist got that thing in its mouth doing the "bow-ow" sound.

[Snipes3000]

It's called a talkbox

[cheironlover]

The synth at 0:18 is so beautiful and it's used in most of cheiron songs like BSB, Britney...wonder which preset is this..
The piano attack is also amazing...each song has a different mix in fact it sounds always different.

This track is also interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmxvDBy6f04

Dunno the preset.

[Tano87]

It's called a talkbox

Yep I just forgot the name