hehe, here's my random list of my fave producers/songwriters (not in any order).
1. Max obviously
2. Rami
3. Kristian Lundin
4. Steve Mac (Westlife / boyzone / o-town etc)
5. Linda Perry (Pink / Christina etc)
6. Glen Ballard (Alanis / Christina / Michael Jackson etc)
7. David Foster (Groban / Fabian / etc)
8. (not a producer, but a damn good songwriter) Dianne Warren
9. Walter Afanasieff (cmon, mariah carey! / lara fabian)
10. Ben Moody (of evanescence / kelly clarkson)
11. Guy Chambers (Robbie Williams / Delta Goodrem / Aslyn)
12. Chris Brown
13. Ne-Yo
Very good topic!!
My top 21 ;D
not any order too except for MAX who naturally ranks #1 :P
1- MAX!!!
2- Andreas Carlsson
3- Denniz Pop
4- Kristian Lundin
5- Rami
6- Dr Luke
7- David Kreuger
8- Per Magnusson
9- Jorgen Elosson
10- Alexander Krolund
11- Savan Kotecha
12- Arnthor Birgisson
13- Anders Bagge
14- The Epicentre team
15- JR Rotem
16- Timbaland/Danja
17- Kara Dioguardi
18- Scott Storch
19- Billy Steinberg
20- Laurent Boutonnat (French)
21- Jean Jacques Goldman (French)
Hard choice but............
1)MAX MARTIN Gold medal ;D
2)STOCK AITKEN WATERMAN Silver Medal ;D
3)GIORGIO MORODER Bronze Medal ;D
4)Jorgen Elofsson
5)Denniz Pop
6)Stargate
7)Rami
8)Lukasz Gottwald
9)Steve Kipner
10)Patrick Leonard
11)Butch Walker
12)Cathy Dennis
13)Andreas Carlsson
14)Savan Kotecha
15)Steve Mac and Wayne Hector
16)Peer Magnusson and David Kreuger
17)Kara Dioguardi
18)Maurice Starr (the mega producer of NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK)
In this chart there isn't Kristian Lundin 'cos you know for me is not a good songwriter ;D
it is hard xd
1-MAX MARTIN
2-Rami
3-Jorgen eloffson
4-Kristian lundin
5-Andreas carlsson
6-Denniz pop
7-Per magnuson
8-david kreuger
9-Alexander kronlund
10-John amatiello
11-Jake schulze
12-Alexandra
13-Herbie crichlow
14-Arnthor birgisson
15-Savan
16-Dr luke
17-Stock/aitken/waterman(SAW)
18-Redone
19-Benny andersson and bjorn alvaeus(ABBA)
20-Claude kelly
21-Qui&laroxi
22-Matrix
23-Cathy dennis
24-Ryan tedder
25-Twin
26-Epicentre
27-Bloodshy&avant
28-Darkchild
29-Guy sigsworth
30-Dan muckala
31-Lennon-mccartny(Beatles)
32-Nile rodgers(Madonna)
33-Quincy jones(Michael jackson)
34-Timbaland
35-Danja
36-Steve mac
37-Linda perry
38-P.Alderheim
39-Chris brown
40-Desmond child
41-Benny blanco
Good lists people!
I forgot to add the tandem of the Matrix! (Avril etc.)
With no order
Max/Lundin/Elfsson/mugnesson/keurger/Epicentre/Twin/Andreas carlsoon/Kara Dioguardi/Stargate/Savan Kotecha/Darkchild/P.Alderheim/ Billy Steinberg
I'm sure I'm forgetting alot of names
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 13, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
In this chart there isn't Kristian Lundin 'cos you know for me is not a good songwriter ;D
Yes,we know that for you he's just "sufficient"! Ahaha
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 13, 2008, 07:53:26 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 13, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
In this chart there isn't Kristian Lundin 'cos you know for me is not a good songwriter ;D
Yes,we know that for you he's just "sufficient"! Ahaha
ah ah ah yes sabine....you have a good memory and not "sufficient" memory ;D
1-Kristian Lundin
2-Max Martin and the other crew!!
3-Epicentre(Fredrick Thomader, Anders Wikstroem)
4-Twin for Redfly(Joacim Persson, Niclas Molinder, Pelle Ankarberg, Charlie Dore, Maryann Morgan.)
What makes you say Kristian is better Feelgoodlies? I really love all the songs he co-produced and the feeling that he added in them but I have the feeling he can't really produce alone... Maybe it's just his way of working, that is, in pair, but I just can't think of a song he wrote alone.
Sufficient sufficien......no doubt....sufficient.... :D
HAHA, sufficient, the word is really well chosen! ;)
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 19, 2008, 10:49:27 AM
What makes you say Kristian is better Feelgoodlies? I really love all the songs he co-produced and the feeling that he added in them but I have the feeling he can't really produce alone... Maybe it's just his way of working, that is, in pair, but I just can't think of a song he wrote alone.
I just love his production Sabine, he's such a great producer btw his music gosh wow, think of all the songs he has done[co-produced] to our favourite acts, there is no song I dislike
Just to name a few songs he produced "alone", but have been co-written of course:
How Will I Know
To Be Able To Love
Born to Make You Happy
Eyes on Me
I'm Alive
Tous Les Secrets
Not For Me
I'll Never Stop
Coulda Woulda Shoulda
Besides the the others that have been co-produced with Max and Jake in which you can really feel his presence in them.
Oh well, maybe he doesn't write alone, but he brings out such a great song, I wish we hear more of him, I hope A.J. has collaborated with him.
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on August 19, 2008, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 19, 2008, 10:49:27 AM
What makes you say Kristian is better Feelgoodlies? I really love all the songs he co-produced and the feeling that he added in them but I have the feeling he can't really produce alone... Maybe it's just his way of working, that is, in pair, but I just can't think of a song he wrote alone.
I just love his production Sabine, he's such a great producer btw his music gosh wow, think of all the songs he has done[co-produced] to our favourite acts, there is no song I dislike
Just to name a few songs he produced "alone", but have been co-written of course:
How Will I Know
To Be Able To Love
Born to Make You Happy
Eyes on Me
I'm Alive
Tous Les Secrets
Not For Me
I'll Never Stop
Coulda Woulda Shoulda
Besides the the others that have been co-produced with Max and Jake in which you can really feel his presence in them.
Oh well, maybe he doesn't write alone, but he brings out such a great song, I wish we hear more of him, I hope A.J. has collaborated with him.
No one of this song was number 1 in usa charts or asian charts or european single chart.
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 19, 2008, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on August 19, 2008, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 19, 2008, 10:49:27 AM
What makes you say Kristian is better Feelgoodlies? I really love all the songs he co-produced and the feeling that he added in them but I have the feeling he can't really produce alone... Maybe it's just his way of working, that is, in pair, but I just can't think of a song he wrote alone.
I just love his production Sabine, he's such a great producer btw his music gosh wow, think of all the songs he has done[co-produced] to our favourite acts, there is no song I dislike
Just to name a few songs he produced "alone", but have been co-written of course:
How Will I Know
To Be Able To Love
Born to Make You Happy
Eyes on Me
I'm Alive
Tous Les Secrets
Not For Me
I'll Never Stop
Coulda Woulda Shoulda
Besides the the others that have been co-produced with Max and Jake in which you can really feel his presence in them.
Oh well, maybe he doesn't write alone, but he brings out such a great song, I wish we hear more of him, I hope A.J. has collaborated with him.
No one of this song was number 1 in usa charts or asian charts or european single chart.
the songs are great and amazing, i don't care if they reached number one on the charts or not, especially billboard... even gangstas songs reach number 1 on billboard and stay many weeks at number 1 ,and a lot of boring songs can go to number 1 on billboard.
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 19, 2008, 09:28:24 PM
No one of this song was number 1 in usa charts or asian charts or european single chart.
Who cares Alex, it's not about # 1, it's actually about the quality of music he has done, I really love his songs, plus some of them have not even been released there, while others are just album tracks.
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on August 20, 2008, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on August 19, 2008, 09:28:24 PM
No one of this song was number 1 in usa charts or asian charts or european single chart.
Who cares Alex, it's not about # 1, it's actually about the quality of music he has done, I really love his songs, plus some of them have not even been released there, while others are just album tracks.
Yes exactly, of well, you know Kristian Lundin or other Cheiron guys (other than Max), I don't actually make such a difference! I adore them all! :D
Well , maybe alot knows my opinion , the greatest producer gotta be Krisian , AMAZING , can't do nothing wrong , he just know what I want and he does it perfectly
Kristian.....who? ;D
I think only Denniz Pop,Max Martin and Jorgen Elofsson have a magic talent for write extraordinary song.
The other cheiron guys are good like other songwriter(for ex.Steve Mac or Butch Walker) but this 3 are really OVER THE TOP!!!!
finally there's one cheiron producer....not goood but sufficient but i don't want to do name........(anonimous songwriter) ;D
Personnally i think Andreas is the best after Max, but I guess it's just a matter of taste, well...
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Personnally i think Andreas is the best after Max, but I guess it's just a matter of taste, well...
You said it "Sabine", we have our individual differences, but we all are cheiron fans, and most definitely "all cheiron guys rock" ;).
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on August 20, 2008, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: *Sabine* on August 20, 2008, 09:11:03 PM
Personnally i think Andreas is the best after Max, but I guess it's just a matter of taste, well...
You said it "Sabine", we have our individual differences, but we all are cheiron fans, and most definitely "all cheiron guys rock" ;).
>:( >:( :o :o you mean (( all cheiron guys POP )) ;D
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>:( >:( :o :o you mean (( all cheiron guys POP )) ;D
Ahaha, definitely, this expression should exist in English! :D
1) Max Martin
2) Jonas and Niklas von der Burg (September, Lucky Twice, Da Buzz, Velvet, Alcazar, Danny)
3) Twin
4) Linda Perry
5) Guy Chambers
6) Fredrik Kempe (Hero, Cara Mia and other great MF-entries)
7) Epicentre
8 ) Andreas Carlsson
9) Jorgen Elofsson
10) Anders Hansson
11) Dr. Luke
12) 2N Production
13) Bloodshy & Avant
14) MAx Fadeev (Serebro, best russian producer with best russian projects more than 10 years already)
15) Ben Moody
16) Henrik Wikström (great MF-songwriter)
17) Bobby Ljunggren (too)
18) Kara Dioguardi
19) Stuart Price
20) Vacuum (Monrose, Tarja, Play, Shebang, Natalia)
21) Anders Bagge
22) Kristian Lundin
23) Arnthor Birgisson
24) Billy Steinberg
25) Per Lidén (Da Buzz, Renegade 5, Helena Paparizou)
Kristian Lundin is way too low in your list , but nice list of producers , I guess I'm going to Add Redone to my list , I've been listening to alot of his songs lately Escpecially NKOTB new album , great , and now Darin single by Redone , he's definitly on my list
22 kristian........? ? ? ?
Too high position ;D ;D ;D
all ex-cheirons plus
Butch Walker,
The Matrix,
Kara Dioguardi,
John Shanks,
Stargate,
Billy Mann,
Diane Warren,
Desmond Child,
Dr Luke,
Matthew Gerrard,
Linda Perry,
Darkchild....
1-MAX MARTIN & Rami!!! :D
2-Kristian Lundin
3-Epicentre (Fredrik Thomander & Anders Wikström)
4-Billy Steinberg & Josh Alexander
5-Andreas Carlsson
6-Diane Warren
7-Jörgen Elofsson
8-Stargate
9-Rodney Jerkins
10-John Shanks
11-Lukasz Gottwald
12-C.Tricky Stewart
13-Ne-Yo
14-Desmond Child
15-Quizlarossi
16-Matthew Gerrard
17-Nick Jarl
18-Fredrik Hult & Ola Larsson
19-Didrik Thott & Sebastian Thott
20-Anders Bagge
Quote from: Mikkel Wong on May 10, 2009, 04:46:17 PM
1-MAX MARTIN & Rami!!! :D
2-Kristian Lundin
3-Epicentre (Fredrik Thomander & Anders Wikström)
4-Billy Steinberg & Josh Alexander
5-Andreas Carlsson
6-Diane Warren
7-Jörgen Elofsson
8-Stargate
9-Rodney Jerkins
10-John Shanks
11-Lukasz Gottwald
12-C.Tricky Stewart
13-Ne-Yo
14-Desmond Child
15-Quizlarossi
16-Matthew Gerrard
17-Nick Jarl
18-Fredrik Hult & Ola Larsson
19-Didrik Thott & Sebastian Thott
20-Anders Bagge
Very much agree with your choice on #4 -- Steinberg & Alexander. These guys have made some of the most awesome records...."Too Little Too late" (JoJo), "When It All Falls Apart" (Veronicas) just to name my two top favorites of theirs. (Notice on the Veronicas first album, ''When It All Falls Apart" is track three, right after "4Ever" and "Everything I'm Not", and IMO it definitely is on the same high level as the first two songs)>
Yes When it Falls Apart is an excellent song! It is very very strong. Also LOVE Jojo's Too Little Too Late!
I'll make some changes in my list ;D
Quote from: *Sabine* on May 10, 2009, 10:16:17 PM
Yes When it Falls Apart is an excellent song! It is very very strong. Also LOVE Jojo's Too Little Too Late!
Yes, there's something about the sound of that record ('Too Little Too Late") that's just fantastic, and JoJo'S singing especially towards the end is unbelievable. This producer/writer Josh Alexander put all kinds of really unique things on their records. Like on "When It All Falls Apart" there's this 'drip drip drip" sound, like water, and there's a similar water-type thing on "Toolittle Too Late" (kinda subtle but it's there). And on "The Best You Never Had" (Leona Lewis) there's this almost random rythym on the hihat (or shaker, I forget which) which is really striking.
I really like Steinberg & Alexander they really knows how to get the attention of the listener, too little too late, the best you never had, over it all great tunes and favorites of mine.
I dont like the chorus of When it all falls apart but it has one of the STRONGEST bridge ever written IMO and I love the best you never had...
EVERYTHING I'm Not is the best ;)
Quote from: nshinnosuke on May 12, 2009, 04:49:17 PM
I dont like the chorus of When it all falls apart but it has one of the STRONGEST bridge ever written IMO and I love the best you never had...
That IS a great bridge :-) I always thought that too.....I remember first time I heard it, like Holy S**t! (Esp.that bass riff that leads into it)
There's also another song on the Veronica's first album I'd like to drag your attention to. It's the 7th track off it and it's called "Leave Me Alone". I think the song is brilliant, it has the typical stucture we like, a very powerful melody either in the verse or in the chorus, an awesome bridge and perfect vocals.
Once again, it's produced by the fabulous Josh Alexander and Billy Steinberg. The girls also contributed to the song and are listed in the credits.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3035413
What do you think of the song?
Leave Me alone sounds kinda repetitive, I dont really like it,it's similar to tatu's all about us (also written/produced by billy and these girls)...my fav was Heavily Broken...
Yes it sounds a lot like All About Us especially at the end.
I knew they already wrote that song since I have the demo of All About Us sung by the Veronicas! I love it! ;D
Quote from: *Sabine* on May 13, 2009, 10:09:29 AM
There's also another song on the Veronica's first album I'd like to drag your attention to. It's the 7th track off it and it's called "Leave Me Alone". I think the song is brilliant, it has the typical stucture we like, a very powerful melody either in the verse or in the chorus, an awesome bridge and perfect vocals.
Once again, it's produced by the fabulous Josh Alexander and Billy Steinberg. The girls also contributed to the song and are listed in the credits.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3035413
What do you think of the song?
Great song!!
Agree Too!!
Veronicas+Josh &Billy are always making something special!!It's better than t.A.T.u's
IMO:D
Josh Alexander & Billy Steinberg are good at working with female artist.What could happen if they work with some male artist....?It could be great ;D
1- Max Martin (obviously :D)
2- Kristian Lundin
3- Denniz Pop
4- Yacoub Rami
5- Rodney Jerkins
6- RedOne
7- Teddy Riley (M.Jackson)
8- Andreas Carlsson
9- David Kreuger/Pier Magnusson
10- Lucasz Gottwald
11- Søren Rasted/Norreen (Aqua)
12- Patrick Leonard (Madonna)
13- Timbaland
14- Bon Jovi/Richie Sambora
15- Alexander Krolund
16- Guy Chambers (Robbie W., Kylie M., Anastacia)
17- Herbie Crichlow
18- Jake Sculze
19- Estèfano (Shakira, Richy Martin, E.Iglesias, P.Rubio)
20- Jörgen Elofsson