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Title: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NobodysFool on April 01, 2009, 11:09:48 PM
Hey!  I was just wondering if you'd heard anything about Avril working with Max.  Some of us fans are really curious because we'd heard she might be working with him, but it hasn't exactly been confirmed.  So if you hear anything, can you please post?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on April 01, 2009, 11:49:34 PM
yeah , max is making new songs for avril lavigne , I think it is confirmed , I cant wait.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on April 02, 2009, 07:57:33 AM
We know he's working with Max but we can't tell you more unforunately, we haven't heard any new material in any kind yet.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on April 02, 2009, 08:38:14 AM
hmm...you might be from avrilbandaids...a lot of people there are investigating this forum to look for some information regarding Avril's work with Max ;D
I think it is confirmed,it is listed on cheiron release calendar...Hopefully this time their work won't end up as B-Sides
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on April 02, 2009, 11:09:59 AM
yes, that seems to be the rumour!
although I'll believe it when I see it

Let's hope, as nshinnosuke says, that the songs don't just end up as b-sides.

I think Avril and Max are a great match. I loved "Alone" but I don't think Avril even needs Max, no matter what she comes out with it will go No.1
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on April 02, 2009, 12:57:46 PM
Yeah,she doesnt really needs Max...She needs The Matrix,Evan Taubenfeld and Butch Walker !! Alone wasnt so great in my opinion but I've always wanted Avril to do a pop/rock song with Max like Behind These Hazel Eyes,Creep or Everything I'm Not...So please Max,let it be good this time...I'm guessing they're working on a song that might be another So What/I Kissed a Girl in the future...who knows
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NobodysFool on April 02, 2009, 11:21:50 PM
OK!  You got me.  I'm from Bandaids and I'm desperate for some news on a new album.  Some of you guys have to realize that many fans were a little disappointed with her last effort.  We're really looking forward to a new album and we heard she might be working with Max, but no other news has really been given.

Anyway, Max wouldn't be my first choice to work with Avril, but hey, it's her choice.
And as for The Matrix, I love their stuff with Avril and I think they did a great job, but I don't think Avril felt like she had enough control over her songs.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on April 03, 2009, 10:09:06 AM
You're right, she's already perfectly fine with the Matrix and Dr Luke but still, I would bery very curious to hear some songs with Max to have a new sound and definately hits!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on April 03, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Yes,I was disappointed with TBDT...
I want her to make another album like UMS and Let Go.
she has to work with Butch again this time,this guy is a genius,some of her best songs came from him (My Happy Ending,When You're Gone,The Best Damn Thing).
My first choice for Avril would be Butch Walker,up next is Evan,The Matrix and then Max.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Poptasticuk on April 03, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
I'm very shocked that Avril fans were apparently disappointed with the last album. I strongly disliked her before Girlfriend, but when I heard that song I suddenly saw her in a new light. I found the skater girl stuff annoying and the gloomy songs boring, but Girlfriend and the other Dr Luke songs were great fun and very well written and produced. Some of Luke's best work, I think, although Megan McCauley's Tap That and The Veronicas' 4ever will always my favourites
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 03, 2009, 10:50:55 AM
I think TBDT is her best work......a song like keep holdin on is a mesterpiece and it's my fav avril's ballad.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on April 03, 2009, 11:18:20 AM
My fave Avril song is Innocence, is it also Butch who wrote it?
I also love When you're Gone.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on April 03, 2009, 12:05:06 PM
Innocence is co-written by Evan Taubenfeld,but produced by Rob Cavallo...
Keep Holding On is just a weaker version of I'm With You for me...I'm With You is the masterpiece
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on April 03, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
Quote from: NobodysFool on April 02, 2009, 11:21:50 PM
OK!  You got me.  I'm from Bandaids and I'm desperate for some news on a new album.  Some of you guys have to realize that many fans were a little disappointed with her last effort.  We're really looking forward to a new album and we heard she might be working with Max, but no other news has really been given.

Anyway, Max wouldn't be my first choice to work with Avril, but hey, it's her choice.
And as for The Matrix, I love their stuff with Avril and I think they did a great job, but I don't think Avril felt like she had enough control over her songs.

btw, welcome. I had a look at Avril Bandaids and saw the post where you guys are discussing her possibly working with Max. Avril fans are pretty diehard! It seemed pretty much 50/50 for/against working with Max, perhaps more saying they weren't happy with it... It was very interesting to read other's thoughts. I'm like 'who wouldn't be excited about her working with Max!' but I can understand the criticism, they don't want Avril sounding like Pink/Kelly/Katy and they want Avril to write her own songs not just come in and record a song.

Yes, I'm very surprised fans were disappointed with her last album, only because "Girlfriend" was such a massive hit, just thought everyone just loved her whole album.

I like Avril working with The Matrix too, though probably won't happen.

Anyway, it will exciting to see what Max/Avril do.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on April 03, 2009, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: Poptasticuk on April 03, 2009, 10:21:52 AM
I'm very shocked that Avril fans were apparently disappointed with the last album. I strongly disliked her before Girlfriend, but when I heard that song I suddenly saw her in a new light. I found the skater girl stuff annoying and the gloomy songs boring, but Girlfriend and the other Dr Luke songs were great fun and very well written and produced. Some of Luke's best work, I think, although Megan McCauley's Tap That and The Veronicas' 4ever will always my favourites

welcome also Poptasticuk. In the early days I didn't really like her either even though Complicated always got stuck in head! I couldn't stand Skater Boy either (or it Sk8ter Boi!? haha). But became a fan with Mobile, My Happy Ending, Falling to Pieces. The last album was only okay for me but just assumed all fans loved it because it was Avril.

Oh yes, I love Tap That and 4ever too
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 03, 2009, 02:08:40 PM
Quote from: nshinnosuke on April 03, 2009, 12:05:06 PM
Innocence is co-written by Evan Taubenfeld,but produced by Rob Cavallo...
Keep Holding On is just a weaker version of I'm With You for me...I'm With You is the masterpiece

Agree with you,I'm with you is great but i prefer lukasz'song.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Poptasticuk on April 03, 2009, 05:53:23 PM
I prefer Keep Holding On to I'm With You, because I think her singing is nicer, and I prefer the melody too. I'm With You is a bit shrieky for me!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on April 03, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
I prefer I'm With you here, hehe, we're like 50/50.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on April 03, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
my happy ending is my favourite avril song , I love luke's songs in the last album , and I prefer a bit keep holding on to I'm with you , but not much  , I love both.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 03, 2009, 09:26:21 PM
Keep holdin on - I'm with you - 3-2 ;)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on April 04, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
I prefer Keep Holding On too

Quote from: Alex Martin on April 03, 2009, 09:26:21 PM
Keep holdin on - I'm with you - 3-2 ;)

so now, Keep holdin on - I'm with you - 4-2
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NobodysFool on April 04, 2009, 03:42:07 AM
Ha!  Yes, we're die-hard.  See, we know Max is a hit maker, but a lot of us thinks many hits these days sound the same.  We're not concerned with the hits.  We just want good music from Avril. 
I really like The Matrix and it would be great if Avril could work with them again, but I don't think that's going to be happening.  I'm not a fan of Dr. Luke.  I don't like the stuff he produced.  I like Butch.  I don't have a problem with him.

Yes, I like Keep Holding On and I'm with You, but I prefer I'm with You because the melody is better, it's catchier, and it has more emotion.  It's lighter and more carefree. 
A lot of people didn't like Avril until Girlfriend.  I personally loved her before The Best Damn Thing came along.  I liked her when she was a teenager.  I thought she was a beautiful, young talented girl.  I'm sorry for anyone who really enjoyed TBDT and didn't like her before, but I have to totally disagree.  Avril won us over with a different type of music and with TBDT, we got something we weren't really expecting.  In my opinion, Avril's better with stuff like Let Go and Under My Skin.  She doesn't need Max Martin.  I know she isn't the best songwriter, but if she's going to be producing hits, I think they better be catchy AND meaningful.  If she makes another TBDT, a lot of fans are going to leave her.  She can't pull something like that off again.  It would cost her too much.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NobodysFool on April 04, 2009, 03:43:59 AM
BTW, Mobile is my favorite Avril song, then Nobody's Fool!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on April 04, 2009, 04:08:30 AM
I think max is capacited for make a new sound for avril , I hope he makes it , something new, anyway I wouldnt mind hear another so what  ;D  I love it so much .
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on April 04, 2009, 08:24:35 AM
I'm With You is one of the greatest ballads ever written in the 2000s...It has such strong lyrics,melodies and deep feelings in it,I also love the music video.
I absolutely hate TBDT (the album),it had some mediocre songs like I Don't Have to Try and fillers like One of Those Girls and Contagious..These 2 songs are catchy but the production is really crap !!! Some of the better songs are TBDT,When You're Gone,Innocence,I Can Do Better,Runaway (sounds repetitive and generic but it was the only pop/rock song we could get from the album) and Girlfriend (the verses are perfect,they sound very Avril but the chorus is nothing special).
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Mikkel Wong on May 23, 2009, 06:06:22 PM
I Don't Have to Try and fillers like One of Those Girls and Contagious..These 2 songs are catchy but the production is really crap !!![/quote]

Agree too!! ;D These songs really sucks :(

I think that Avril doesn't need Dr.L**e. because every song produced by Luke in TBDT are very catchy, but it has no class IMO. sorry :(

If Rami has took the place of luke, all songs might be more classy and beautiful.....

Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on June 09, 2009, 06:59:35 PM
I thought I'd bump this thread to post a short vid I just found out on youtube. It's Avril recording Girlfriend in several languages with Dr Luke. Really funny!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on June 10, 2009, 12:45:53 PM
Thanks Sabine, but I don't see the link! it sounds funny though
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on June 10, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
That's why I didn't paste it..  My head is always in the clouds!  :-[
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdXcum3vS0g
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on June 11, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
Thanks Sabine, the clip is really funny, I don't know how she sang in all those different languages. it's always nice to see Dr luke too!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Linda on June 12, 2009, 01:29:31 AM
did u see that whole documentry of avril recording girlfriend with dr luke sabine?
there is a part where they are both on skateboards and then she sprays him with pepper spray.. i thought that was hilarious.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on June 12, 2009, 02:43:42 AM
Quote from: Linda on June 12, 2009, 01:29:31 AM
did u see that whole documentry of avril recording girlfriend with dr luke sabine?
there is a part where they are both on skateboards and then she sprays him with pepper spray.. i thought that was hilarious.
Those ARE hilarious!   Here's a link for anyone that hasn't seen 'em (there's like 4 parts or something --this is part 1)  Oh, damn --the link won't copy here for some reason-- but if you type in  "the making of The Best Damn Thing"  on YouTube, they'll come up.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: *Sabine* on June 12, 2009, 09:57:43 AM
Thanks Linda and george, no I haven't seen it, sounds really funny!!  LOL
I'll go check the vid now!  ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on June 06, 2010, 08:57:46 PM
Avril posted on twitter :

In Europe for 2 weeks, finishing up in the studio. So fun, just wrote 3 new songs in only 4 days! Radness....

about 3 hours ago via web

www.twitter.com/AvrilLavigne

Probably she is in Stockholm, working with Max! Let's hope so!! ;)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on June 07, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
Quote from: Izalightblue on June 06, 2010, 08:57:46 PM
Avril posted on twitter :

In Europe for 2 weeks, finishing up in the studio. So fun, just wrote 3 new songs in only 4 days! Radness....

about 3 hours ago via web

www.twitter.com/AvrilLavigne

Probably she is in Stockholm, working with Max! Let's hope so!! ;)

I hope!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on June 11, 2010, 06:59:56 PM
News Avril Lavigne are in sweden right know and working with Max Martin and Johan Shuster.

I have Johan on my Facebook and he have photos of him and Avril in the studio and also they have one great picture when they are seeing a AC DC concert in stockholm together =)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on June 11, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
Quote from: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on June 11, 2010, 06:59:56 PM
News Avril Lavigne are in sweden right know and working with Max Martin and Johan Shuster.

I have Johan on my Facebook and he have photos of him and Avril in the studio and also they have one great picture when they are seeing a AC DC concert in stockholm together =)

AMAZING NEWS! i'm so excited!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on June 11, 2010, 08:07:49 PM
Nice!! ;)

Niklas, is there any chance of you letting us see the pics?  ;D :P That would be great!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on June 12, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
oh that's great news!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on July 01, 2010, 02:32:48 PM
a newly leaked song of Avril, if this is the overall sound for the album, than its going to be great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEIXWkPe0WQ
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on July 01, 2010, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: nshinnosuke on July 01, 2010, 02:32:48 PM
a newly leaked song of Avril, if this is the overall sound for the album, than its going to be great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEIXWkPe0WQ


sounds great , sounds like her first album.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on July 01, 2010, 06:09:04 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on July 01, 2010, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: nshinnosuke on July 01, 2010, 02:32:48 PM
a newly leaked song of Avril, if this is the overall sound for the album, than its going to be great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEIXWkPe0WQ


sounds great , sounds like her first album.

I think the same.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on July 02, 2010, 09:02:24 PM
Great song.....maybe it's max :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on December 07, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
Hey! The songs Max and Shellback wrote with Avril are already listed on Ascap:


  I LOVE YOU     Work ID: 882213082 
           
  Writers:
   LAVIGNE AVRIL
   MARTIN MAX
   SCHUSTER JOHAN KARL

  Performers:
  AVRIL LAVIGNE



   SMILE     Work ID: 882213080 
           
  Writers:
   LAVIGNE AVRIL
   MARTIN MAX
   SCHUSTER JOHAN KARL

  Performers:
  AVRIL LAVIGNE


   WHAT THE HELL     Work ID: 882213079 ( The first single)
           
  Writers:
   LAVIGNE AVRIL
   MARTIN MAX
   SCHUSTER JOHAN KARL

  Performers:
  AVRIL LAVIGNE



  WISH YOU WERE HERE     Work ID: 882213081 
           
  Writers:
   LAVIGNE AVRIL
   MARTIN MAX
   SCHUSTER JOHAN KARL

  Performers:
  AVRIL LAVIGNE


I can't wait to hear all these songs!  ;) :D






Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on December 07, 2010, 09:32:12 PM

           Incredibly fantastic--thanks!! I was really hoping that 'wHAT tHE hELL"  (first single) was a Max song!!!  :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on December 07, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
Me too!!!  :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on December 08, 2010, 01:02:47 AM
Woww , 4 songs! , great! , and the first single by Max , Hit for sure.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on December 08, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
4 songs is incredible! what a treat!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on December 14, 2010, 04:45:02 PM
''What the hell'' will premier 31rd december!

I can't wait!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on December 14, 2010, 05:20:58 PM
Yeah, she is gonna sing it live!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Unexpected on December 17, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
Snippet of What The Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OhKU7YyaYU&feature=player_embedded)  sounds good and catchy TBH.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on December 17, 2010, 03:54:40 PM
Quote from: Unexpected on December 17, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
Snippet of What The Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OhKU7YyaYU&feature=player_embedded)  sounds good and catchy TBH.

Wow , it sounds great , I can't wait for hear the full song.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on December 17, 2010, 04:09:54 PM
ANOTHER HIT.......FOR SURE!!!!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on December 17, 2010, 05:19:59 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on December 17, 2010, 04:09:54 PM
ANOTHER HIT.......FOR SURE!!!!!
DeFiNITeLY!!  :-)       I love Max and Shellback's kind of "retro bubblegum" sound on top of current beats :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on December 17, 2010, 05:26:16 PM
Catchy, lovely and amazing!!! Def another hit!!! :D ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on December 17, 2010, 05:41:38 PM
The next year will be for Max more huge even than 2010!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on December 17, 2010, 06:02:49 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on December 17, 2010, 05:41:38 PM
The next year will be for Max more huge even than 2010!
It's really fantastic, isn't it?!!    :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: turnaround on December 17, 2010, 07:13:33 PM
This is really a hit-single if you ask me. What a catchy chorus. Well done.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on December 17, 2010, 08:14:35 PM
this is like a dream coming true,
finally Avril and Max doing a 'major' song together,
it has much more potential than Raise Your Glass to reach#1,
I hope there's a more serious song co-written by Max, I mean like BTHE by Kelly or My Happy Ending
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on December 17, 2010, 11:37:02 PM
Longer version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOUjZcT_sPo
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: klukan on December 18, 2010, 12:46:32 PM
This short preview is sooooo addicting. A big hit for sure!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: MicH on December 18, 2010, 08:37:37 PM
Wow, sounds great! I wonder if max got the inspiration for the playful organ from Toni Basil's Mickey. 80's is so inspiring decade and I'm glad how influential producers are bringing some of it back.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on January 01, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucttOA5CpQc
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: klukan on January 01, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
yeeeeessssss it's FANTASTIC!! ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on January 01, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: klukan on January 01, 2011, 01:17:39 PM
yeeeeessssss it's FANTASTIC!! ;D
It really is, and so glad it had such a great live premiere by Avril -- sounded great!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on January 01, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
Great! I loved it seeing live!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 01, 2011, 09:36:13 PM
The song is cool, but nothing is great!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: JackSnr on January 02, 2011, 03:34:02 AM
Nice song. Amazing perofrmance by Avril -  that onstage pitch correction software has really come a long way. Can't wait for britney though.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on January 02, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
SONG OF THE YEAR 2011  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on January 02, 2011, 12:57:17 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on January 02, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
SONG OF THE YEAR 2011  ;D ;D ;D


Not!!!!  ;) we have more to come..Britney, delta goodrem, nick carter,Isquare, Kelly clarksson, Darren Heyes, The DANDY album from Andreas Carlsson and alot more
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on January 02, 2011, 12:58:45 PM
......and the others avril's songs  ;)

A great year for sure..... :)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 02, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
OMG , THE SONG IS AMAZING! , I love it , the verses , the bridge , the middle 8 ,  all is amazing!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on January 02, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
my fav part is the "If you love me, if you hate me, you can save me baby baby"
cant wait for the other songs on her album !!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 02, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Studio version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB3et7kmRQc

This song is a drug guys!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on January 02, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on January 02, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
Studio version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB3et7kmRQc

This song is a drug guys!
Agreed --Drug Effect!!    Here's a great Billboard review too   http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/others/what-the-hell-3-39-producers-max-martin-1004137618.story
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 03, 2011, 05:56:53 PM
Still not completely in love, I think it's a good song, but "Girlfriend" was a much stronger comeback single in my honest opinion, I dont know!

Also Avril Lavigne sings like an annoying little girl, I hate her voice!


Hopefully the other songs will be better!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: jezusmarie on January 03, 2011, 09:59:27 PM
it's a very well made song, but given so much of max's stuff is out there this feels generic, and sort of agree her vocal delivery is a tad gimicky, but max's songs do tend to work a treat here in australia, if radio pick it up...
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Unexpected on January 04, 2011, 01:14:43 AM
The chorus is catchy, but it's kinda of the songs you get bored of so quickly, Side note and I don't think I need to mention it the song sounds like my Life Would Suck Without You.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 05, 2011, 02:16:57 AM
All the Max songs will be in the album!  ;D


1.   "Black Star"     Avril Lavigne[2]       
2.   "What the Hell"     Lavigne, Max Martin, Shellback[23]    3:39[1]
3.   "Push"     Lavigne, Evan Taubenfeld[24]       
4.   "Wish You Were Here"     Lavigne, Martin, Shellback[25]       
5.   "Smile"     Lavigne, Martin, Shellback[26]       
6.   "Stop Standing There"     Lavigne[27]       
7.   "I Love You"     Lavigne, Martin, Shellback[28]       
8.   "Everybody Hurts"     Lavigne, Taubenfeld[29]       
9.   "Not Enough"     Lavigne, Taubenfeld[30]       
10.   "4 Real"     Lavigne[8]   Lavigne[8]   
11.   "Darlin"     Lavigne[15]   Deryck Whibley[8]   
12.   "Remember When"     Lavigne[31]       
13.   "Goodbye"     Lavigne[8]   Lavigne[8]   
14.   "Alice" (hidden track)   Lavigne[32]   Butch Walker[32]
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on January 05, 2011, 02:52:45 AM

                  Great, three more songs!   And it really takes courage to title a song "I Love You" -- I like that! :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 05, 2011, 08:49:13 PM
I hope the other songs are stronger than "What The Hell".
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: jezusmarie on January 06, 2011, 12:45:16 PM
ok i've given it a ton of listens and it's sunk in, it's a terrific song, woo hoo's in the chorus really do it for me
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 12, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
3# In USA Itunes!!  ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on January 12, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on January 12, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
3# In USA Itunes!!  ;D
Now up to #2!!    (Britney still at #!) :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 13, 2011, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: georg_e on January 12, 2011, 11:25:00 PM
Quote from: Raul_esp on January 12, 2011, 05:18:53 PM
3# In USA Itunes!!  ;D
Now up to #2!!    (Britney still at #!) :D
AMAZING , Max rules!  ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: sforzando on January 21, 2011, 05:53:42 AM
Debut @#13 on US Billboard!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 21, 2011, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: sforzando on January 21, 2011, 05:53:42 AM
Debut @#13 on US Billboard!

Great!  ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on January 21, 2011, 10:17:47 PM
Next week at number ONE!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on January 22, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
"Video" (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjM4OTExNTAw.html)

Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 23, 2011, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on January 22, 2011, 08:36:07 PM
"Video" (http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjM4OTExNTAw.html)



Great video!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on January 23, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
                    Realized the other day how good the melody is at part before chorus where "Craaa-aa-zzzy"  melody notes drop down at end of that word...went back and watched her live New Year's Eve version, and she's brilliant at showing with her hands how good this part is...check it out: she raises her arm/hand way up high, holds it there -- and then drops it down (she actually kinda points down) on the lower note  at end of "Craaazzy"...and the audience goes nuts :D    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlFIqdm75pw
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on January 23, 2011, 06:17:26 PM
Very funny...poor man  :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on January 23, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
Quote from: georg_e on January 23, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
                    Realized the other day how good the melody is at part before chorus where "Craaa-aa-zzzy"  melody notes drop down at end of that word...went back and watched her live New Year's Eve version, and she's brilliant at showing with her hands how good this part is...check it out: she raises her arm/hand way up high, holds it there -- and then drops it down (she actually kinda points down) on the lower note  at end of "Craaazzy"...and the audience goes nuts :D    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlFIqdm75pw
Yes it's amazing , as all the song  ;D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on January 24, 2011, 10:32:16 AM
So, true, that 'crazy' part is great. I've only got into this song, it's taken a few listens.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on February 01, 2011, 10:09:24 PM
I like the song, quite catchy with a fresh sound, but it's too "Lukish" influenced  ;D
I thought it was co-produced by Dr.Luke...
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: RuHa on February 03, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
Awesome instrumental
http://www.hipstrumentals.com/2011/02/avril-lavigne-what-the-hell-instrumental/
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on February 04, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
Thanks, the instrumental is fantastic, as usual.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on February 04, 2011, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: RuHa on February 03, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
Awesome instrumental
http://www.hipstrumentals.com/2011/02/avril-lavigne-what-the-hell-instrumental/

Amazing , perfect production.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on February 14, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: RuHa on February 03, 2011, 09:15:59 PM
Awesome instrumental
http://www.hipstrumentals.com/2011/02/avril-lavigne-what-the-hell-instrumental/

Great! 
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on February 21, 2011, 02:08:36 PM
previews : http://www.amazon.de/Goodbye-Lullaby/dp/B004OQJ3VI/?tag=vig02-21
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on February 21, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
Quote from: nshinnosuke on February 21, 2011, 02:08:36 PM
previews : http://www.amazon.de/Goodbye-Lullaby/dp/B004OQJ3VI/?tag=vig02-21

The Max clips sound nice But I can't see another ''What the hell''.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on February 21, 2011, 04:22:30 PM
"What the hell" is the better Max's song of the album, but "Wish you where here" and "Smile" are quite nice.

Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Izalightblue on February 21, 2011, 07:39:48 PM
'' Smile '' sounds quite cool!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on February 22, 2011, 12:16:12 AM
I think smile it's GREAT!!!! I also love  Wish u Were Here.....not completely addicted by i love u. BTW the whole album sounds Great!!!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on February 22, 2011, 03:49:26 PM
my favorite out of them is Push, it reminds me of her first record so much.
Wish You Were Here sounds like Pink's Fuckin Perfect..
What the Hell is the only TBDT-sounding song on the album because it is the song chosen by her label to sell some records before the album is released thats why it sounds out of place. Her fans want less songs like those and more like her older work
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on February 24, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
album has leaked.
One word : fantastic
I bet those fans who were angered when they heard that Avril worked with Max for more than 2 songs will take their words back after hearing everything because I Love You and Wish You Were Here are very similar to her earlier work with The Matrix. Looks like Max listened to her first album before writing these songs :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on February 24, 2011, 05:38:32 PM
The album is amazing , what a great melodies! , the Max songs are so great , ''Smile'' is amazing.
Max is a genius , he has done that Avril sounds more Avril than never.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: JackSnr on February 25, 2011, 05:47:10 AM
Can someone please link the Max songs. I cant find them  :(
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: JackSnr on February 25, 2011, 06:47:46 AM
never mind. got them.

wish u were here is great
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on February 26, 2011, 08:58:33 PM
WISH YOU WERE HERE is A M A Z I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHMMo9H1tcE
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on February 26, 2011, 09:54:03 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on February 26, 2011, 08:58:33 PM
WISH YOU WERE HERE is A M A Z I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHMMo9H1tcE

Yess , I love it , the song is so nice.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on February 26, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
yes, it's really nice. I'm really looking forward to the album now
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: bsbone on February 27, 2011, 10:14:22 PM
i love the songs from max on the new album but smile its amazing! cant stop listening!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: nshinnosuke on March 07, 2011, 09:35:39 AM
did Max also produced the acoustic versions of WTH and Wish You Were Here?
they sound incredible too !! much better than Dr Luke's acoustics on her last album
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on March 08, 2011, 09:26:26 PM
I can't get out of my head "Wish You Were Here"!
The more I listen to it, the more I like it!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on March 08, 2011, 09:30:21 PM
Really amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O4ProF5sxo&feature=related
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: maxmartin'sfan on March 09, 2011, 03:35:25 AM
"wish u were here" is just Amazing!!! One of the best Max Martin's song! The voice production on the chorus is awesome!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on March 09, 2011, 03:48:01 AM

    Avril says some really nice things about Max in this MTV video http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1659477/avril-lavigne-goodbye-lullaby-max-martin.jhtml
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on March 09, 2011, 10:21:15 AM
Thanks George, Avril is so nice and Max sounds so nice too.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on March 09, 2011, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: georg_e on March 09, 2011, 03:48:01 AM

    Avril says some really nice things about Max in this MTV video http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1659477/avril-lavigne-goodbye-lullaby-max-martin.jhtml

Great!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on March 10, 2011, 02:56:18 PM
FANTASTIKKKKKK!!!!!!!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbEvyBAywck
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on March 10, 2011, 03:16:01 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on March 10, 2011, 02:56:18 PM
FANTASTIKKKKKK!!!!!!!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbEvyBAywck

Amazing cover!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on March 10, 2011, 03:29:04 PM

              Wowww, so beautiful and so joyous!!!   :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: RuHa on March 10, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Sounds great but somehow it seems she's not totally feeling the song..
However this with Bruno Mars doing California Gurls is epic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSB09W70FQA
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on March 10, 2011, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: RuHa on March 10, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Sounds great but somehow it seems she's not totally feeling the song..
However this with Bruno Mars doing California Gurls is epic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSB09W70FQA

It was amazing!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on March 10, 2011, 09:34:24 PM
Wow, beautiful cover!  :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on March 12, 2011, 11:16:42 PM
thanks, those covers are great

I just got Avril's album, I love "Smile" and "I love you"! so great!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: georg_e on March 15, 2011, 02:54:56 PM

                  Really beautiful acoustic versions by Avril from the new album :D  http://www.youtube.com/user/DeadSpace50
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: fralax on March 17, 2011, 03:29:30 AM
I'm a bit disappointed by Avril's album :/ What The Hell is the only true pop hit?  :-\
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on March 17, 2011, 01:09:47 PM
Smile is also great ;)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on March 20, 2011, 06:52:53 AM
yeah, the only good songs are the Max songs, the rest are just okay.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on April 27, 2011, 12:35:14 PM
"Smile" will be the next single  :)
I love that song, it's so nice and catchy!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on April 28, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
Fantastic news! I love "Smile"
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on April 28, 2011, 05:16:10 PM
Great news!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on April 28, 2011, 07:07:09 PM
Can't wait for the video ;)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on April 28, 2011, 07:14:35 PM
The video maybe will be released on 16th of May.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on May 03, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
Smile cover


http://justjared.buzznet.com/2011/05/03/avril-lavigne-smile-cover-artwork/
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on May 03, 2011, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on May 03, 2011, 10:44:05 PM
Smile cover


http://justjared.buzznet.com/2011/05/03/avril-lavigne-smile-cover-artwork/

Cool cover  :)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on May 20, 2011, 11:59:49 AM
Smile video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KagvExF-ijc&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on May 20, 2011, 12:47:39 PM
Wow i really like the video....remind me an old avril's video but i don't remember the title of the song  :D
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on May 20, 2011, 06:13:54 PM
Great video and amazing song!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Alex Martin on May 21, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
Guys,do u like?  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYx-YgSzDU&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on May 21, 2011, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on May 21, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
Guys,do u like?  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYx-YgSzDU&feature=player_embedded

Cool!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on May 22, 2011, 02:26:09 AM
Quote from: Raul_esp on May 21, 2011, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: Alex Martin on May 21, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
Guys,do u like?  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYx-YgSzDU&feature=player_embedded

Cool!

thanks, I love it!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on September 09, 2011, 02:19:16 PM
"Wish You Were Here" Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1-sitWRtY)
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Raul_esp on September 09, 2011, 11:04:15 PM
Quote from: Feelgoodlies on September 09, 2011, 02:19:16 PM
"Wish You Were Here" Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT1-sitWRtY)
Nice video but it's a bit simple , Amazing song.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Rebecca on September 10, 2011, 01:30:28 AM
I  love the song. The video is a bit depressing though. Avril looks beautiful though.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Feelgoodlies on September 10, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
I love it as well, I actually think it's better than both "What The Hell" and "Smile", she should've come back with it.

I hope it does better than "Smile" on the charts, because "Smile" flopped badly!
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Matteo87 on September 17, 2011, 11:17:03 AM
I don't like the video...

The song for me is the best of the album.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Unexpected on September 19, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
This is the best song on the album, as Feelgoodlies  stated earlier  I wish this was her comeback single, I'm sure it would've been huge.
Title: Re: Avril Lavigne and Max
Post by: Joshua on October 31, 2011, 07:38:45 AM
Great song! I'm so glad she's released three Max/Shellback singles in a row, but yeah pitty Smile flopped. I wonder if it's down to promotion, cos it's certainly not a weak track. Hope Wish You Were Here performs a lot better.