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The Songwriters => Max Martin and friends => Topic started by: JamesSongwriter on February 21, 2022, 03:09:34 PM

Title: Masterclass
Post by: JamesSongwriter on February 21, 2022, 03:09:34 PM
Not sure if this is allowed but...

There is a certain master class of Max's songs happening next month. It's pretty expensive and was wondering if anyone wanted to share the cost together and share the video / deck we receive afterwards?

Feel free to private message me if you prefer  :)
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Snipes3000 on February 21, 2022, 07:07:43 PM
I don't see why this would not be allowed. Who is selling these masterclasses?
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Helluvafella on February 23, 2022, 10:18:24 AM
Sounds interesting. How much is it and who gives the class?
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Dagge on February 23, 2022, 11:22:53 AM
It depends on who will be teaching because Max himself certainly will not be that person :) I am afraid the class will teach information already available publicly for a hefty sum (which also I could teach for free). Real gems would be Max's methods for constructing melodies and other things that are not available to the public, but that will probably not be the topic.
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Helluvafella on February 23, 2022, 07:47:35 PM
Quote from: Dagge on February 23, 2022, 11:22:53 AM
It depends on who will be teaching because Max himself certainly will not be that person :) I am afraid the class will teach information already available publicly for a hefty sum (which also I could teach for free). Real gems would be Max's methods for constructing melodies and other things that are not available to the public, but that will probably not be the topic.

I'm super curious to learn what you would teach us :) Maybe you can create a thread on this topic ... ,,Dagge teaches Max' methods" :)
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Dagge on February 23, 2022, 11:42:32 PM
Quote from: Helluvafella on February 23, 2022, 07:47:35 PM
I'm super curious to learn what you would teach us :) Maybe you can create a thread on this topic ... ,,Dagge teaches Max' methods" :)

Sorry, I have said that if the course will teach the usual stuff that was available on the Internet over time I can teach this for free because I have read everything possible about Max and Cheiron thing. The real value of the mentioned course would be to teach stuff that is not available on the Internet. I hope this will resolve your dilemma.
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: bugmenot on February 24, 2022, 05:47:12 AM
Do you know there is an official MasterClass by Ryan Tedder? On their website MasterClass (no, I didn't buy it)
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Snipes3000 on February 24, 2022, 11:29:41 AM
There is an official masterclass by ryan tedder. Dont remember the company
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Snipes3000 on February 24, 2022, 11:32:49 AM
I also know of a company who sells "melodic math" and uses max martin songs to analyse to prove a point. However, when I analyse the same songs I see totally different things that go beyond the stuff he says and when he starts to qualify certain sections of the songs differently than I do, and explain certain moves differently than I do, then I back off. I trust my own analytical capacities and my own insights in the first place. Besides, the couple behind that max martin workshop or whatever they called it have no pop related releases at all
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Dagge on February 24, 2022, 09:23:49 PM
Quote from: bugmenot on February 24, 2022, 05:47:12 AM
Do you know there is an official MasterClass by Ryan Tedder? On their website MasterClass (no, I didn't buy it)

He has pretty impressive credits, if that course may be compared to sitting with a famous producer/songwriter that teaches you everything he knows, for $285 that isn't too much to pay. But I somehow feel there is a catch.
Title: Re: Masterclass
Post by: Snipes3000 on February 25, 2022, 07:44:24 PM
I've watched his thing. There isn't much to it imho. All I heard there were things I already knew. Besides what masterclass can be better than Luke's? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJVpnhJefg&list=PL5ag0TICVq2W07CMtQVI1kKxftCdheilA&index=29