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Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: ITS ALIVE on May 25, 2007, 04:27:21 AM
I was reading a magazine the other day that said mutt lange earns 10 million dollars in royalties every year. If he sat in a chair and did not move for 365 days he would pocket 10 million!! I started to wonder how much Max is worth? Does anybody have a figure?
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: malcolm hogg on May 25, 2007, 12:44:31 PM
I read an article a couple of years ago that said Mutt makes $285000 per week on royalties from his back catalogue. That was before Shania's Up album.
Don't think Max will be anywhere near that level, but i wouldn't mind being %4 per week behind him!!!!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 25, 2007, 01:33:58 PM
I have often wondered this myself. I'm sure it's a huge amount.
When you think how much Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys have earned when they barely have any songwriting credits (though their pay may be structured differently), Max and the other songwriters would have to earn a huge amount too.

The songs are played so much on radio. In Sydney on 106.5 (classic hits for those who don't know), as you'd know Its Alive, BSB is played nearly everyday!

But yeah it would have to be in the $millions

Wow, Mutt certainly earns a lot! good for him!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: NIKLAS"NiCkY" on May 25, 2007, 02:05:49 PM
Actually i dont care

But i read in swedish newspaper maybe 2 years ago that Max martins company was that company that did the best  company's profit of them all in sweden.....i think the company's turnover was about 10 million dollar in 2005.... He is 12place in sweden on the tax list ..He is a good Swedish man and he pay tax in sweden and i am from sweden and he is best
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: ITS ALIVE on May 25, 2007, 03:37:48 PM
QuoteThe songs are played so much on radio. In Sydney on 106.5 (classic hits for those who don't know), as you'd know Its Alive, BSB is played nearly everyday!

I so know what you mean Rebecca. A couple of years ago I heard 4, count them 4, Max songs in a row on Mix 106.5. BSB, Bolton, Britney, Robyn. I bet Mix had no idea they were doing it.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: hits on May 25, 2007, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: "malcolm hogg"I read an article a couple of years ago that said Mutt makes $285000 per week on royalties from his back catalogue. That was before Shania's Up album.
Don't think Max will be anywhere near that level, but i wouldn't mind being %4 per week behind him!!!!

Oh, I doubt that MUTT is anywhere near MAX. I am sure Max earns more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_Lange

Mutt didnt really wrote many hit songs, he mainly produced. While that still earns you royalties, the real money is in the songwriting royalties. And thats where Max is clearly more successful. Just take BSBs Millenium. Sold how many records. 34 million? Unbelievable. And every day, Britney, BSB and NSYNC songs get played all around the world.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: turnaround on May 25, 2007, 08:49:39 PM
Yeah I imagine Max is one of the best earning persons of the 90ies.

And quite surely one of the richest Swedes I assume, apart from the Royal family etc hehe

No idea how much exactly, but if I had to guess I'd say about 300 millions. That's around what Madonna is supposed to have. Growing each day.

I guess it must have been always frustrating if you are a songwriter, especially in Sweden, and you put so much work in everything but the money only a few guys actually make.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: princessofegypt on May 25, 2007, 10:36:48 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"

The songs are played so much on radio. In Sydney on 106.5 (classic hits for those who don't know), as you'd know Its Alive, BSB is played nearly everyday!
They play It's Alive songs on the radio over there? lol
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 26, 2007, 12:09:05 AM
Quote from: "princessofegypt"
Quote from: "Rebecca"

The songs are played so much on radio. In Sydney on 106.5 (classic hits for those who don't know), as you'd know Its Alive, BSB is played nearly everyday!
They play It's Alive songs on the radio over there? lol

haha. no, I was talking to Its Alive (I'm sure you knew that!), but hey maybe I should start to request our 'rock' station to play Its Alive songs!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 26, 2007, 12:14:27 AM
Quote from: "turnaround"Yeah I imagine Max is one of the best earning persons of the 90ies.

And quite surely one of the richest Swedes I assume, apart from the Royal family etc hehe

No idea how much exactly, but if I had to guess I'd say about 300 millions. That's around what Madonna is supposed to have. Growing each day.

I guess it must have been always frustrating if you are a songwriter, especially in Sweden, and you put so much work in everything but the money only a few guys actually make.

Do you mean 300 million Euros or USD or Swedish Krona?
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: turnaround on May 26, 2007, 12:15:47 AM
Oh, I meant us dollars, sorry
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 26, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
Quote from: "ITS ALIVE"

I so know what you mean Rebecca. A couple of years ago I heard 4, count them 4, Max songs in a row on Mix 106.5. BSB, Bolton, Britney, Robyn. I bet Mix had no idea they were doing it.

Exactly!  a great day and it happens all the time. And then on the more current radion stations they play 4Ever and Since U Been Gone a lot still and Pink etc etc!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 26, 2007, 12:18:17 AM
Quote from: "turnaround"Oh, I meant us dollars, sorry

thanks, I thought that's what you meant!
probably about right

I read that Britney has about $100m USD so Max has got to have 3 x that!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 26, 2007, 12:24:11 AM
Quote from: "hits"

Oh, I doubt that MUTT is anywhere near MAX. I am sure Max earns more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutt_Lange

Mutt didnt really wrote many hit songs, he mainly produced. While that still earns you royalties, the real money is in the songwriting royalties. And thats where Max is clearly more successful. Just take BSBs Millenium. Sold how many records. 34 million? Unbelievable. And every day, Britney, BSB and NSYNC songs get played all around the world.

True, though ACDC have sold a lot of his produced albums, and Bryan Adams has sold a lot too. I thought co-wrote Shania's albums too?
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: malcolm hogg on May 26, 2007, 02:48:31 AM
mutt has been around so many years! Remember that he was involved in music back in the 70's, 80's and 90's before the internet revolution. i remember talking to him at newcastle city hall. He was the most down to earth guy in the world. Aint seen him since. but the pop he made, if he got paid 10 million a week i wouldnt begrudge him that. I would like to think that he is amaster of pop music!!!!! Max i think may be his protege?!?!?!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: jarle on May 26, 2007, 07:24:15 AM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Quote from: "turnaround"Yeah I imagine Max is one of the best earning persons of the 90ies.

And quite surely one of the richest Swedes I assume, apart from the Royal family etc hehe

No idea how much exactly, but if I had to guess I'd say about 300 millions. That's around what Madonna is supposed to have. Growing each day.

I guess it must have been always frustrating if you are a songwriter, especially in Sweden, and you put so much work in everything but the money only a few guys actually make.

Do you mean 300 million Euros or USD or Swedish Krona?

Well, I must have my say in this ;)
According to ratsit.se he's worth about 100 million SEK... He sold his company M2004S last year, which made him pay one of the top ten tax payers, but he's far from one of the richest Swedes...
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: turnaround on May 26, 2007, 12:13:19 PM
Sorry, it was just a guess  :lol:  :wink:
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: ®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ on May 26, 2007, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"When you think how much Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys have earned when they barely have any songwriting credits (though their pay may be structured differently), Max and the other songwriters would have to earn a huge amount too.
I would think they earn about the same, but obviously the artists earn way more with touring, promotion, advertisement, etc...

Just look what Britney got for her Pepsi commercials. 10 million $?
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: hits on May 26, 2007, 10:57:27 PM
Quote from: "jarle"
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Quote from: "turnaround"Yeah I imagine Max is one of the best earning persons of the 90ies.

And quite surely one of the richest Swedes I assume, apart from the Royal family etc hehe

No idea how much exactly, but if I had to guess I'd say about 300 millions. That's around what Madonna is supposed to have. Growing each day.

I guess it must have been always frustrating if you are a songwriter, especially in Sweden, and you put so much work in everything but the money only a few guys actually make.

Do you mean 300 million Euros or USD or Swedish Krona?

Well, I must have my say in this ;)
According to ratsit.se he's worth about 100 million SEK... He sold his company M2004S last year, which made him pay one of the top ten tax payers, but he's far from one of the richest Swedes...

that would just be 10 million. i am sure he's richer than that!
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: ®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ on May 26, 2007, 11:08:53 PM
Quote from: "hits"that would just be 10 million. i am sure he's richer than that!
Think so too...
But hey, since we won't know anyways, let's just leave it at: He's rich.  :wink:
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: turnaround on May 26, 2007, 11:13:13 PM
And still wants to earn money, though he doesn't need it.

But we had this discussion already.

A mixture of ambition, hunger and favours for friends I am sure.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 27, 2007, 06:52:40 AM
Quote from: "®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ"
Quote from: "hits"that would just be 10 million. i am sure he's richer than that!
Think so too...
But hey, since we won't know anyways, let's just leave it at: He's rich.  :wink:

Yes, he's rich!

and also I agree with your point above that artists earn a lot of money for touring and promotion which songwriters would not get.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: ®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ on May 27, 2007, 04:55:43 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"and also I agree with your point above that artists earn a lot of money for touring and promotion which songwriters would not get.
Yep - except for maybe Timbaland! *lol*
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: hits on May 27, 2007, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: "Rebecca"
Quote from: "®a|ÑßØw÷¢H!LÐ"
Quote from: "hits"that would just be 10 million. i am sure he's richer than that!
Think so too...
But hey, since we won't know anyways, let's just leave it at: He's rich.  :wink:

Yes, he's rich!

and also I agree with your point above that artists earn a lot of money for touring and promotion which songwriters would not get.


Most artists never make a dime from record sales, they do make money from touring and merchandise, but while they are still trying to recoup the costs for their recordings, promotions, videos, etc... the producer/songwriter is already getting cash transfered to his bank account.
Also, the artists makes an album usually every 2 years. While a producer can make several, he can basically get songs on various hits records, which will eventually make him richer than any usual artist will ever be, unless they are BSB or Britney Spears. Remember, none of those artists even get (songwriting) royalties paid, since they dont write their own songs. And thats where the big money is.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on May 27, 2007, 11:39:54 PM
Quote from: "hits"[

Remember, none of those artists even get (songwriting) royalties paid, since they dont write their own songs. And thats where the big money is.

Agree!

I remember reading in Arena magazine years ago in their music issue and they had an article about songwriters earnings. It said that Andrew Ridgely earns 500,000 pounds a year from songwriting credits from Wham - yet he's only got songwriting credits on a few songs! And they also said that Gary Barlow had earned far more than Robbie Williams as he wrote a lot of Take That songs (though this article was before Robbie signed his mega record deal with EMI, I think it was EMI)
Arena used the term 'change a word take a third' re how singers get songwriting credits - funny! I should find that article and scan it in it was very interesting.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Massproductions on June 14, 2007, 09:08:59 PM
You have to understand that Max Martins earnings probably can't be near what Madonna makes. She's got earnings from live gigs, royaltys, advertising and so on... it's a whole industrie when it comes to that big artists. Their economy is very complex. But with that said everybody seems to agree that he probably is VERY rich.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Massproductions on June 14, 2007, 09:26:16 PM
Year 2005 Karl Martin Sandberg "Max Martin"   6 307 300 kr
http://dinapengar.se/Avdelningar/Artikel.aspx?ArticleID=2006%5C11%5C28%5C4115
That would make
889960,03 US dollar
On an avrage he made 525000 kr per month that year. Or 74163 US dollar. That's not bad at all, he is a rich man.
Title: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: Rebecca on June 15, 2007, 02:40:11 PM
wow, thanks for that info and that link massproductions!
Title: Re: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
Post by: turnaround on August 23, 2017, 10:50:34 PM
Max Martin reported a turnover of almost SEK 436 million (~$54 million) for 2016, resulting in a profit of SEK 155 million (~$19 million). That's 22% more than last year's profit and sets a new personal record once again, Expressen reports.


https://www.promicabana.de/taylor-swift-kuendigt-neue-single-album-reputation-an/
Title: Re: how much is Max worth $$$$$$$
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Quote from: mikeklein1234 on September 01, 2017, 12:31:05 PM
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