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StringWheel pad?

Started by crushroller, February 02, 2014, 04:07:24 PM

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cout7

Sorry for the bump :)

I want to add to my post, the preset apo:C3/M12 ESI with low pass filter is a better match for Ace of Base's Never Gonna Say I'm Sorry, Just 'N' Image and Dr. Sun synth pads.



Quote from: cout7 on May 13, 2021, 06:02:43 PM
With greatest respect to Rod (he is incredibly talented!) for the previous message and for showing the way, here is a way to have this preset:

This sound can be found on E-MU Keys Emulator X. Here is a great tutorial for achieving successful installation for E-MU Emulator X and obtaining the necessary libraries:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqGjOjc4S5g&ab_channel=YanAnselmo

We need to get the following:
E-Mu Emulator X (the setup is available on the YouTube Video Desc.
E-Mu Experience (this allows us to have the necessary directory structure)
Vintage Keys Sound Bank

All these three is explained in detail on the YouTube link

But to obtain the sound, after following each step, you have to choose apo: CP70/M12. This preset has both Yamaha Acoustic Piano (hence the apo name) and the Matrix Strings. At this point go to "Voices and Zones" section of apo:CP70/M12.

Choose Matrix String C4 as solo and mute all other instruments

Then apply a low pass filter to this (as an example I applied FL Studio Love Filter - Low Pass 2 preset)

Hope this helps.

Hitmakers75

#46
I finally found a Vintage Keys (Plus) and uploaded in it the original .syx "new" presets from the original Vintage Keys.
Definitely the synth used by Cheiron for all the mellotron and violin sounds (particularly the intro of N'Sync's Bye Bye).
But the most used preset of this synth by the Cheiron team is definitely the String Wheel pad which can be heard in a lot of 1994-1999 productions (Papa Dee "The First Cut Is The Deepest", Ace Of Base "Lucky Love", Backstreet Boys "IWITW"...) and still in some in 2000's (Britney "3")

For those who are interested in, i sampled every single note of this preset (48/24bits) C0-C7 and made an .exs patch for Logic Pro.
Here's the link :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V5Pgf39OoQWA_aKB7jVxpdVnQGggjgKz/view?usp=sharing

And a very fast remake of Never Gonna Say I'm Sorry with the preset :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IhgmLRd_OgUQBHdAny10MlPq8xre19aO/view?usp=sharing


Snipes3000

#47
Thanks for sharing. Tano has proven to be an expert on this subject, see his remakes at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfmBYDD8bv1DmtCS_Cxxdyg. What do u think Tano, is this actually what Cheiron used on those productions?
Hi, I'm Luke and I'm sitting on my throne! Oh, and have you noticed that Denniz PoP songs are extremely hooky?

Tano87

#48
Quote from: Hitmakers75 on April 11, 2022, 08:13:27 AM
I finally found a Vintage Keys (Plus) and uploaded in it the original .syx "new" presets from the original Vintage Keys.
Definitely the synth used by Cheiron for all the mellotron and violin sounds (particularly the intro of N'Sync's Bye Bye).
But the most used preset of this synth by the Cheiron team is definitely the String Wheel pad which can be heard in a lot of 1994-1999 productions (Papa Dee "The First Cut Is The Deepest", Ace Of Base "Life Is A Flower", Backstreet Boys "IWITW"...) and still in some in 2000's (Britney "3")

For those who are interested in, i sampled every single note of this preset (48/24bits) C0-C7 and made an .exs patch for Logic Pro.
Here's the link :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V5Pgf39OoQWA_aKB7jVxpdVnQGggjgKz/view?usp=sharing

And a very fast remake of Never Gonna Say I'm Sorry with the preset :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IhgmLRd_OgUQBHdAny10MlPq8xre19aO/view?usp=sharing

Uuuuh thanks a lot 😍😍😍 but I don't use logic 😭😭 I already used the one posted in this board but samples were short. Is there any way to have the original and open this syx file on VSTs?

Quote from: Snipes3000 on April 11, 2022, 11:59:55 AM
Thanks for sharing. Tano has proven to be an expert on this subject, see his remakes at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfmBYDD8bv1DmtCS_Cxxdyg. What do u think Tano, is this actually what Cheiron used on those productions?

Actually this is not my channel 🤣

Hitmakers75

Samples can't be short, they are 10 seconds long and looped !
I converted .exs into .nki to use in Kontakt 5 or 6.
You can download patch and samples here :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qh9TmW9EICntu_3C6lIowLnkWCurDR5j/view?usp=sharing

Backstreet's Back !
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13lzR6s_MpqhosdTgNu8u2_CJ1yc2yx58/view?usp=sharing

Tano87

Quote from: Hitmakers75 on April 12, 2022, 09:56:26 AM
Samples can't be short, they are 10 seconds long and looped !
I converted .exs into .nki to use in Kontakt 5 or 6.
You can download patch and samples here :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qh9TmW9EICntu_3C6lIowLnkWCurDR5j/view?usp=sharing

Backstreet's Back !
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13lzR6s_MpqhosdTgNu8u2_CJ1yc2yx58/view?usp=sharing

WOOOOOOW THANKS A LOT 😍😍😍😍

j.fco.morales

Very accurate! Thank you!

Mellontron

Hi! Bumping the thread and was wondering if someone could repost a link for samples/ patches for "String Wheel" from Vinrage Keys and also the main pad from "IWOTW" thanks much in advance!

DennizPoP

Quote from: Hitmakers75 on April 11, 2022, 08:13:27 AMI finally found a Vintage Keys (Plus) and uploaded in it the original .syx "new" presets from the original Vintage Keys.
Definitely the synth used by Cheiron for all the mellotron and violin sounds (particularly the intro of N'Sync's Bye Bye).
But the most used preset of this synth by the Cheiron team is definitely the String Wheel pad which can be heard in a lot of 1994-1999 productions (Papa Dee "The First Cut Is The Deepest", Ace Of Base "Lucky Love", Backstreet Boys "IWITW"...) and still in some in 2000's (Britney "3")

For those who are interested in, i sampled every single note of this preset (48/24bits) C0-C7 and made an .exs patch for Logic Pro.
Here's the link :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V5Pgf39OoQWA_aKB7jVxpdVnQGggjgKz/view?usp=sharing

And a very fast remake of Never Gonna Say I'm Sorry with the preset :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IhgmLRd_OgUQBHdAny10MlPq8xre19aO/view?usp=sharing


This sounds 100% like the real deal! Even Shazam recognized it as the actual song, excellent job! ;D

I requested access to both the Logic and NI patches, can you enable them again please?

extrasoul

Hey there! Awesome thread. Really feel blessed to read it. I also ask to share links again. Thank you!

Hitmakers75

#55
Some of you seem very interested by the Vintage Key preset I sampled, judging by the requests I received.
Unfortunately somebody which I gave access has deleted the files about a month ago.
I checked but I have no backup of the files. I have to resample my synth. I would tell you when it's ok and I will share again the link.
Sorry for that !

poplabaudio

Since the download link for the Kontakt Library from Hitmakers75 isn't available anymore and I didn't want to buy a Vintage Keys Plus just to get the StringWheel Preset...I tried recreating it using Serum (using the the audio example from HitMakers75)

There is some difference but I think this is very close and very usable. The vibrato was a little tricky since it's not stable over time. The intensity varies quite a lot which I guess is what gives it a very distinct character. What do you guys think of this?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vQnVMCwKfa1NFZRdjaBw293vfGSHD9uK/view?usp=sharing

Also, are there any other presets I should give a go recreating?

RoboRider

Quote from: poplabaudio on June 14, 2024, 11:23:51 AMSince the download link for the Kontakt Library from Hitmakers75 isn't available anymore and I didn't want to buy a Vintage Keys Plus just to get the StringWheel Preset...I tried recreating it using Serum (using the the audio example from HitMakers75)

There is some difference but I think this is very close and very usable. The vibrato was a little tricky since it's not stable over time. The intensity varies quite a lot which I guess is what gives it a very distinct character. What do you guys think of this?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vQnVMCwKfa1NFZRdjaBw293vfGSHD9uK/view?usp=sharing

Also, are there any other presets I should give a go recreating?

Very good Serum preset! Where can I download it?