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Title: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Polarmachine on July 07, 2015, 10:56:37 AM
The guitarist in the swedish band Solen says they just laughed when they heard Adam Lambertz new single Ghost Town.

(google translate)

A melancholy guitar part begin the Swedish indie pop band Solen's song "Come come come".
A very familiar guitar part with similar phrasing and melody begins American Adam Lambert's "Ghost Town".
"The songs are Fucking similar"
The resemblance is striking, says Solen's guitarist Gustav Karlsson:
- We laughed when we heard it. The guitars phrase in the same way ... Though Erik says that his song is better, says the musician to Nöjesbladet.

Grammy-nominated The solar let spun on radio from September 2014. In the same year was American Adam Lambert in Sweden, to write and record "ghost town".
Lambert wrote the song with the Swedes Max Martin and Tobias Karlsson. An interesting coincidence, says Gustav Karlsson.
- It may well be that [Max Martin] has listened. It could well be plagiarism. But we are not exactly upset. I do not know if we should be.

The guitarist think, however, that it is right that the record company will take a more orderly look to the songs:
- That they may well do if they want to. It's flattering if [the writers] have listened, and if it is a plagiarism - well, then it just becomes a profit.

On the Swedish Playground Music taken the issue seriously. Publishers manager John Jackson Cloud brings together right now information STIM to assess. He thinks it smacks of plagiarism.
- You know: this is plagiarism. It is purely the melody is exactly the same in my ears. One might think that it's a bit too much coincidence to be true. But there is a system for how to handle this, says Cloud.

STIM's task will be to compare "ghost town" with "Kom kom kom", and notify Playground whether there is a case.
If yes, the Swedish publisher should try to reach an agreement with the publisher behind Lambert song.
- No one wants to get nasty from the beginning ... If we do not agree, we take the next step. And then it will be lawyers and such bad things, says John Jackson Cloud.

If it turns out that the writers have been a little too much inspired of SOLEN, Gustav Karlsson hopes on a nice gesture.
- Max Martin can buy lunch at Riche or something in that case. And Adam Lambert, too, for that matter, says guitarist with a laugh.
 
Adam Lambert's Swedish representative at Warner Music greet that they do not want to comment. Nöjesbladet seeking the Swedish songwriters.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/article21056838.ab (http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/musik/article21056838.ab)

I definitely think either Tobias Karlsson or Max have heard this song. What do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpgzD5xsMU8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpgzD5xsMU8)
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
haha of course no musician, especially no Swedish musician, wants beef with Max Martin! :D

yeah, it's very similar but there's still a chance it's not copied.

btw the original reminds me of El Condor El Pasa.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 07, 2015, 05:02:37 PM
I mean, there are no more chords or different progressions...
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 05:49:07 PM
Quote from: j.fco.morales on July 07, 2015, 05:02:37 PM
I mean, there are no more chords or different progressions...

yeah but in this case it's also the melody and it's suspicious that the songs have the same chord progression and melody (if I remember it right :-X)
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2015, 08:03:16 PM
Y'all know that Sterling Fox wrote "Ghost Town", right?
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
Stolen from Solen :D
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
That may be, but that wasn't what I was saying.
The article screams "MAX MARTIN STOLE THAT SONG". Which, if it was the case, wouldn't be the case. lol
Cause Sterling wrote it, so he would be the one who got inspired by the Solen song.

Which IMHO doesn't sound too much alike.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Jules on July 07, 2015, 08:31:13 PM
That may be, but that wasn't what I was saying.
The article screams "MAX MARTIN STOLE THAT SONG". Which, if it was the case, wouldn't be the case. lol
Cause Sterling wrote it, so he would be the one who got inspired by the Solen song.

Which IMHO doesn't sound too much alike.

I wasn't referring to your post so stop double posting.
besides that GT was written by 4 guys.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: georg_e on July 07, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
The guitar part is nearly identical and so is the melody, including the repeat after the first phrase. If you had ONE of those two elements like that you might say coincidence. But both the same? No way it's by chance. Since they're both in same key it's GLARINGLY obvious.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2015, 10:08:04 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 10:05:09 PM
I wasn't referring to your post so stop double posting.
besides that GT was written by 4 guys.

Yo momma stops double posting. lol
Sterling wrote it and brought it in.  ::)
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Jules on July 07, 2015, 10:08:29 PM
Btw, did I mention Sterling Fox was the one who wrote the track?  ::)
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 07, 2015, 10:11:25 PM
Quote from: georg_e on July 07, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
The guitar part is nearly identical and so is the melody, including the repeat after the first phrase. If you had ONE of those two elements like that you might say coincidence. But both the same? No way it's by chance. Since they're both in same key it's GLARINGLY obvious.
actually my opinion but still I don't wanna ascribe it to Max & Co.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: sonnyblack2000 on July 07, 2015, 10:16:07 PM
For sure someone on the team heard the Solen song and it stuck in their subconscious and used it while coming up with Ghostown. All unintentional, should be an easy fix with a new writer split with Solen.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: j.fco.morales on July 08, 2015, 04:51:46 AM
I mean, if we start talking about the rhythm and melody, it makes sense that both songs sound alike.
They sound a bit alike, but man... it's not enough to call it plagiarism.

And to me, copying is flattering.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
well...they did the same with Pinks song "boring" but none of you know where it is from..I kept saying the melody is from another song..

And this isnt really Max Martin thing to do..


Adam Lambert was actually working on the album between 2014 January-april in Stockholm.
I met adam last year in March in Stockholm..

and the "kom kom kom" song came out september 2014...
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
Quote from: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 05:51:08 PM
well...they did the same with Pinks song "boring" but none of you know where it is from..I kept saying the melody is from another song..

And this isnt really Max Martin thing to do..

... neither do you ::) also interesting that it's a fact just because YOU say it lol.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 05:53:50 PM
... neither do you ::) also interesting that it's a fact just because YOU say it lol.

IT IS. But none of you music freaks recognize the melody either from "Boring". This is a BIG NEWS. And I need help to find the original song !!!
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 06:20:56 PM
Quote from: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
IT IS. But none of you music freaks recognize the melody either from "Boring". This is a BIG NEWS. And I need help to find the original song !!!

lol, you sound like we need to deliver while it is absolutely ok that you don't know it!
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 06:24:26 PM
I'll find the god damn original track someday, and I'll post it here, and eggs on ya'll face.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 07:09:12 PM
Quote from: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 06:24:26 PM
I'll find the god damn original track someday, and I'll post it here, and eggs on ya'll face.

God bless you!
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 07:53:13 PM
lool
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: Voodoo on July 08, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
This song is blahhhh... I doubt they would steel it because theres nothing worth taking.
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: ShockdioN on July 08, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: Voodoo on July 08, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
This song is blahhhh... I doubt they would steel it because theres nothing worth taking.

they do sound VERY similar IMO
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: B Steady on July 08, 2015, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: Voodoo on July 08, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
This song is blahhhh... I doubt they would steel it because theres nothing worth taking.

Which song are you referring to now? (since the last song we were discussing was Boring)
Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: turnaround on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 PM
After the "Blurred Lines" trial verdict I think many songwriters and producers are quite nervous when it comes to these accusations.
It can be really expensive if you let yourself inspire to much and sample without considering giving a credit to the "original".

Title: Re: Ghost Town - Kom Kom Kom (Plagiarism?)
Post by: sweetmelody on July 08, 2015, 10:52:58 PM
Wow, very similar parts. This would be a very strange coincidence if it was one.